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Sound of Trumpet

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Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

Unspun America ^ | October 22, 2009

Posted on 23 October 2009 08:07:40 by PatriotJG

At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
off
without it. The writers latest book "Cain" is an ironic retelling of
the story of Cain and Abel from the book of genesis. Looks like

President Obama is in great company.

"The Bible is a manual of bad morals (which) has a powerful
influence on our culture and even our way of life. Without the Bible,
we would be different, and probably better people," he was quoted as
saying by the news agency Lusa.

Saramago attacked "a cruel, jealous and unbearable God (who)
exists
only in our heads" and said he did not think his book would cause
problems for the Catholic Church "because Catholics do not read the
Bible.

"It might offend Jews, but that doesn't really matter to me," he
added.
In recent history, the Nobel Prize has been awarded to many extreme
leftists and anti-Christian figures, including Al Gore, Jimmy Carter,
and Yasser Arafat. The fact that it is being awarded to people such
as
this shows that the Nobel Prize has lost much of its value in the
last
half century.

LC

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Deaf, dumb, and dumber "Sound of Trumpet" <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote
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> At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
> Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
> off without it.

Speaking the truth...how refreshing.

Uncle Vic

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Dec 27, 2009, 2:46:46 PM12/27/09
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

A good observation. Have any religious zealots ever won the Nobel?

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.

raven1

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:49:45 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:40:20 -0800 (PST), Sound of Trumpet
<soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:

>Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

And he's wrong how?

Quadibloc

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Dec 27, 2009, 4:57:29 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 12:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
quoted, in part:

>     "It might offend Jews, but that doesn't really matter to me," he
> added.

Well, at least there is _one_ thing in this article that speaks badly
of this Nobel Prize winner!

John Savard

Father Haskell

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:06:02 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 2:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
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> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

The recipes are lousy, too.

Enkidu

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:16:28 PM12/27/09
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:

> "The Bible is a manual of bad morals (which) has a powerful
> influence on our culture and even our way of life. Without the Bible,
> we would be different, and probably better people," he was quoted as
> saying by the news agency Lusa.

Dude's right on.

--
Enkidu

panam...@hotmail.com

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:34:19 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 2:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2369024/posts
>
> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

And he's right.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

Jon Schild

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:23:31 PM12/27/09
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
> http://www.snip.com

>
> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>
> [snip]

>
> The fact that it is being awarded to people such as this shows that
> the Nobel Prize has lost much of its value in the last half century.

Yep. Can't have any prize or other recognition that isn't based on
hyperchristianity.

Yap

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:45:24 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 28, 3:40 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2369024/posts
>
> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>
> Unspun America ^ | October 22, 2009
>
> Posted on 23 October 2009 08:07:40 by PatriotJG
>
> At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
> Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
> off
> without it. The writers latest book "Cain" is an ironic retelling of
> the story of Cain and Abel from the book of genesis. Looks like
>
> President Obama is in great company.
>
>     "The Bible is a manual of bad morals (which) has a powerful
> influence on our culture and even our way of life. Without the Bible,
> we would be different, and probably better people," he was quoted as
> saying by the news agency Lusa.
>
>     Saramago attacked "a cruel, jealous and unbearable God (who)
> exists
> only in our heads" and said he did not think his book would cause
> problems for the Catholic Church "because Catholics do not read the
> Bible.
At least the above is one off positive news you care to relate.

cryptoguy

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:55:19 PM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 2:46 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>

> wrote:
>
> > Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>
> A good observation.  Have any religious zealots ever won the Nobel?

"Mother" Teresa, 1979, won the Peace Prize.

pt

Spartakus

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:20:20 PM12/27/09
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:

> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2369024/posts
>
> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>
> Unspun America ^ | October 22, 2009
>
> Posted on 23 October 2009 08:07:40 by PatriotJG
>
> At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
> Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
> off without it.

Stop EVERYTHING! Someone attacked the Bible??? That's never happened
in the history of the...

Oh, wait...

"[The Bible] has noble poetry in it... and some good morals
and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies."
-- Mark Twain

"It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it
[Revelations],
and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no
more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences
of our own nightly dreams." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The characters and events depicted in the damn bible are
fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead,
is purely coincidental." -- James Madison

> Looks like President Obama is in great company.

What a laughable attempt at guilt by association! Jose Saramago would
make Barack Obama look like Barry Goldwater.

The Chief Instigator

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:58:14 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:40:20 -0800 (PST), Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:

Idiot Strumpet whines, no atheist gives a good goddamn about his psychotic
breaks, and no one will be watching at 10.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Monday, December 28 vs. Syracuse, 7:05

Olrik

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:41:17 AM12/28/09
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Le 2009-12-27 21:55, cryptoguy a �crit :

That was a gross error.

"Mother" Teresa should be tried for crimes against humanity.

Mother" Teresa

Olrik

> pt

Olrik

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:41:46 AM12/28/09
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Le 2009-12-28 00:41, Olrik a �crit :
http://www.slate.com/id/2090083/
>
> Olrik
>
> > pt
>

Michael Grosberg

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:33:51 AM12/28/09
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'Fraid not, gov. The Bible is a human creation and humans are to blame
for it and for their own behavior. People do what they will, It's just
the rationalizations that change.

Michael Grosberg

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:49:07 AM12/28/09
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On Dec 27, 9:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2369024/posts
>
> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"

Well, at least it's on topic here at RASFW: Saramago's novels are
tangentially SF.

I can't think of a better use for this thread than to promote
Saramago's work. Of those I read, _The Gospel According to Jesus
Christ_ is Saramago at his anti-Christian best, and also his best
novel (of those I read).

_Blindness_ and _Seeing_ are social SF - _Blindness describes the
fragility of society and civilization, and _Seeing_ is an interesting
novel of what happens when the electorate of an entire country decides
not to vote in an election.

_Caverna_ is about consumerism and features a shopping mall that is
turned into an arcology of sorts.

Saramago's prose style is a bit difficult to get into - long run on
sentences with a plethora of commas but no quotation marks. But once
you get used to it it's beautiful in its way.

jcon

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Dec 28, 2009, 10:10:52 AM12/28/09
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On Dec 27, 9:20 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2369024/posts
>
> > Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>
> > Unspun America ^ | October 22, 2009
>
> > Posted on 23 October 2009 08:07:40 by PatriotJG
>
> > At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
> > Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
> > off without it.
>
> Stop EVERYTHING!  Someone attacked the Bible???  That's never happened
> in the history of the...
>
> Oh, wait...
>
>      "[The Bible] has noble poetry in it... and some good morals
>       and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies."
>       -- Mark Twain
>

I'm always amazed at the wisdom and wit of Mark Twain. He
was clearly born 100 years before his time.

-jc

Mark

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:23:01 AM12/28/09
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On Dec 27, 1:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

Well, duh. The Bible is a catalogue of how NOT to treat each other.

Mark
author of:
The Secantis Sequence
Remains
www.marktiedemann.com

Jim

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:57:09 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 27, 1:40 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:

> At the launch event for his latest book, Nobel Prize winner Jose
> Saramago attacked the bible, saying that the world would be better
> off without it.

I thought _Blindness_ was a great story.

He can write. You can't write shit and you
are an evil anonymous nobody to boot. My little
rubber ducky can make a bigger impact than
your dumb assed tooty-toot-toot toy horn.

Now if you'd picked better parents, you
might've had a chance to take trumpet
lessons. But noooo. All you wanted to
do was blow on your toy and annoy
your poor little sister and Mrs. Nussbaum
next door whose last thought in this life was
of cramming it up a part of your body
where the sun does not shine. I was
at her bedside the night she died. Her
last words, "Dear God in heaven,
please cram that trumpet up his
ass!", and then she inhaled twice
quickly and just like that, Anna
Nussbaum was gone forever.

On her little gravestone is an
international symbol meaning
"DON'T" with a trumpet
inside and on the other
side is an engraving of a
cherub with the bell of
a trumpet flaring out from its
anus. Obviously the little
angel got on somebody's
nerves.


Jack Campin - bogus address

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:31:52 PM12/28/09
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> In recent history, the Nobel Prize has been awarded to many extreme
> leftists and anti-Christian figures, including Al Gore, Jimmy Carter,
> and Yasser Arafat.

Jimmy Carter was a born-again Christian and Arafat's wife was
a Christian.

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tirebiter

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:06:16 PM12/31/09
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And if you get leprosy, don't follow the bible's cure, unless you want
to lose parts of your body.

---
a.a. #2273

Michael Price

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On Dec 28 2009, 4:41 pm, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Le 2009-12-27 21:55, cryptoguy a écrit :
>  > On Dec 27, 2:46 pm, Uncle Vic<addr...@withheld.com>  wrote:
>  >> One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of
> Trumpet<soundoftrum...@dcemail.com> >> wrote:
>
>  >>
>  >>> Nobel Winner Calls Bible "Handbook of Bad Morals"
>  >>
>  >> A good observation.  Have any religious zealots ever won the Nobel?
>  >
>  > "Mother" Teresa, 1979, won the Peace Prize.
>
> That was a gross error.
>
> "Mother" Teresa should be tried for crimes against humanity.
>
And how does that disqualify her from the Nobel Peace Prize?
Every year it's a toss up whether it's won by someone who should
be locked up forever.

> Mother" Teresa
>
> Olrik
>
>  > pt

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