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trag
Nov 30, 2011, 4:32:12 PM11/30/11
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On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>
> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
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> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>
> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Nov 30, 2011, 4:50:49 PM11/30/11
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On 11/30/11 4:32 PM, trag wrote:
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
Butter and sour cream, baby!
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
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David Dyer-Bennet
Nov 30, 2011, 4:55:40 PM11/30/11
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trag <tr...@prismnet.com> writes:
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
Baked, not mashed.
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Joe Pfeiffer
Nov 30, 2011, 5:25:35 PM11/30/11
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> writes:
> trag <tr...@prismnet.com> writes:
>
>> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>>
>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>
> Baked, not mashed.
And cheddar and chives.
> trag <tr...@prismnet.com> writes:
>
>> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>>
>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>
> Baked, not mashed.
Howard Brazee
Nov 30, 2011, 7:19:55 PM11/30/11
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:55:40 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net>
wrote:
>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
>Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>
>Baked, not mashed.
That's my choice too, although I add chopped chives and occasionally
bacon.
With mashed potatoes, butter and salt & pepper suffice, but mashed
isn't my choice. Sometimes at restaurants, mashed potatoes will be
flavored with cheese or (truffles or lobster that I can barely taste -
but which improve the taste).
I prefer to bake potatoes in foil after wrapping them with butter. But
I never leave foil on my plate, and cut up the potato so that I get
some skin with most bites.
At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well -
or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour cream).
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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
wrote:
>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
>Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>
>Baked, not mashed.
bacon.
With mashed potatoes, butter and salt & pepper suffice, but mashed
isn't my choice. Sometimes at restaurants, mashed potatoes will be
flavored with cheese or (truffles or lobster that I can barely taste -
but which improve the taste).
I prefer to bake potatoes in foil after wrapping them with butter. But
I never leave foil on my plate, and cut up the potato so that I get
some skin with most bites.
At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well -
or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour cream).
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Howard Brazee
Nov 30, 2011, 7:20:31 PM11/30/11
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:25:35 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer
<pfei...@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>>
>> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>>
>> Baked, not mashed.
>
>And cheddar and chives.
Oops, I forgot cheddar in my reply.
<pfei...@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>>
>> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>>
>> Baked, not mashed.
>
>And cheddar and chives.
Rod Speed
Nov 30, 2011, 9:42:12 PM11/30/11
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Howard Brazee wrote
I prefer gravy with roast potatoes, but just butter/marg
with potatoes microwaved in their jackets.
>> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
Not with baked potatoes for me.
>> Baked, not mashed.
> That's my choice too, although I add chopped chives and occasionally bacon.
Not with baked potatoes for me, I prefer gravy.
> With mashed potatoes, butter and salt & pepper suffice, but mashed isn't my choice.
Yeah, I dont cook mashed potatoes anymore after a summer job
involved instant mashed potatoes every day for a couple of months.
Microwaving the potatoes in their jackets is so much quicker and easier too and better to eat.
> Sometimes at restaurants, mashed potatoes will be flavored with cheese
Havent ever had that here.
> or (truffles or lobster that I can barely taste - but which improve the taste).
> I prefer to bake potatoes in foil after wrapping them with butter.
I dont, I prefer the crisper result you get with them roasted in the
fat while roasting a leg of lamb, with the last hour done with the
oven temp jacked up to 450F with the potatoes turned at 30 mins.
> But I never leave foil on my plate, and cut up the
> potato so that I get some skin with most bites.
Yeah, I much prefer the skin on except with roast potatoes roasted as above.
> At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well -
Must get around to trying that with the new convection oven.
> or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour cream).
I dont go overboard with the butter/marg, just slice
the potatoe in half almost all the way thru out of the
microwave and put a slice of butter/marg in the opening.
> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote
>>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
Varys with the potatoe.
>>>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
I prefer gravy with roast potatoes, but just butter/marg
with potatoes microwaved in their jackets.
>> Butter and sour cream. And lots and lots of black pepper.
>> Baked, not mashed.
> That's my choice too, although I add chopped chives and occasionally bacon.
> With mashed potatoes, butter and salt & pepper suffice, but mashed isn't my choice.
involved instant mashed potatoes every day for a couple of months.
Microwaving the potatoes in their jackets is so much quicker and easier too and better to eat.
> Sometimes at restaurants, mashed potatoes will be flavored with cheese
> or (truffles or lobster that I can barely taste - but which improve the taste).
> I prefer to bake potatoes in foil after wrapping them with butter.
fat while roasting a leg of lamb, with the last hour done with the
oven temp jacked up to 450F with the potatoes turned at 30 mins.
> But I never leave foil on my plate, and cut up the
> potato so that I get some skin with most bites.
> At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well -
> or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour cream).
the potatoe in half almost all the way thru out of the
microwave and put a slice of butter/marg in the opening.
Gene Wirchenko
Dec 1, 2011, 12:28:55 AM12/1/11
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:32:12 -0600, trag <tr...@prismnet.com> wrote:
>On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
>But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
These days, generally in soup. I usually make two pots per week,
>On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>>> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>>> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>>> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>>> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>>
>> I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
>But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
and it is usually ground meat, barley, potato, various vegies
(carrots, tomatoes, leeks are common), and spices.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
William December Starr
Dec 1, 2011, 1:01:19 AM12/1/11
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In article <aphdd79b4saj9od9v...@4ax.com>,
-- wds
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> said:
> At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well
> - or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour
> cream).
What's an onion straw?
> At BBQ restaurants, baked potatoes are good with some meat as well
> - or great with onion straws (along with lots of butter and sour
> cream).
-- wds
Peter Flass
Dec 1, 2011, 8:02:13 AM12/1/11
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Anthony Nance
Dec 1, 2011, 9:30:55 AM12/1/11
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they are skinny tubes of deep fried batter, prepared in a room where
onions were once rumored to have resided.
Given modern slicing technology, I acknowledge the possibility that
there is a thin strip of onion inside each and every tube.
Tony
Walter Bushell
Dec 1, 2011, 10:39:49 AM12/1/11
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In article <jb67cs$oer$2...@dont-email.me>, trag <tr...@prismnet.com>
wrote:
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
> >> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
> >> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
> >> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
> >> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
> >
> > I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
Fried, with butter and sour cream and chives? with ketchup or fermented
fish sauce?
--
It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant
and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting. -- H. L. Mencken
wrote:
> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
> >> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
> >> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
> >> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
> >> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
> >
> > I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>
> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
fish sauce?
--
It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant
and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting. -- H. L. Mencken
David Dyer-Bennet
Dec 1, 2011, 11:27:21 AM12/1/11
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convenient, and the texture doesn't matter so much in this use.
Cheddar is one of my favorite cheeses, but about my least favorite to
cook with or even use in sandwiches (I'll make a cheese sandwich with
cheddar, but I won't add it to other things). So I won't be adding it
to my baked potatoes, personally.
Seebs
Dec 1, 2011, 3:08:12 PM12/1/11
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like really thin onion rings that aren't always in rings.
-s
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Dec 1, 2011, 3:55:45 PM12/1/11
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> In article <jb67cs$oer$2...@dont-email.me>, trag <tr...@prismnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> > "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>>
>> >> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>> >> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>> >> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>> >> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>> >
>> > I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
> Fried, with butter and sour cream and chives? with ketchup or fermented
> fish sauce?
>
>
Par-boiled, then hash-browned crispy with creamed corn, butter, and plenty
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/2011 4:52 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> > "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>>
>> >> I've had lots of praise for my meatloaf. I still eat it with
>> >> ketchup, and like it that way. The people I *don't* understand at all
>> >> are the people who eat it with gravy. Gravy's for *potatoes*. Or for
>> >> overcooked poultry that's dried out.
>> >
>> > I really have little use for gravy. I never make it myself.
>>
>> But, but, but, how do you eat potatoes?!?
>
> Fried, with butter and sour cream and chives? with ketchup or fermented
> fish sauce?
>
>
of fresh-ground black pepper.
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