:: It's actually a good idea. Pulp paper is acid, and interacts with
:: oxygen from the atmosphere to turn brittle and eventually fall apart. :: Keeping such books (also comics) sealed in plastic bags is the
:: classic way of preserving them.
: Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net>
: Just be sure to do the sealing in a low-humidity environment.
> :: It's actually a good idea. Pulp paper is acid, and interacts with
> :: oxygen from the atmosphere to turn brittle and eventually fall apart.
> :: Keeping such books (also comics) sealed in plastic bags is the
> :: classic way of preserving them.
> : Evelyn Leeper<elee...@optonline.net>
> : Just be sure to do the sealing in a low-humidity environment.
> Would adding dessicant help?
ObSF: LUCIFER'S HAMMER
-- Evelyn C. Leeper
Who's better for business? During Bush's second term the Dow Jones
*dropped* 2000 points; during Obama's term it *rose* 5000 points.
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:43:53 GMT, Wayne Throop
<thro...@sheol.org> wrote in <news:1349041433@sheol.org> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
>:: It's actually a good idea. Pulp paper is acid, and interacts with
>:: oxygen from the atmosphere to turn brittle and eventually fall apart. >:: Keeping such books (also comics) sealed in plastic bags is the
>:: classic way of preserving them. >: Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net>
>: Just be sure to do the sealing in a low-humidity environment. > Would adding dessicant help?
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:02:00 GMT, Wayne Throop
<thro...@sheol.org> wrote in <news:1349074920@sheol.org> in
rec.arts.sf.written:
>:: Would adding dessicant help? >: "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...@csuohio.edu>
>: I suspect that desiccant would work better. <g>
> But shirley excess esses are dryer than superfluous sees?
Gollum gee, I just don't know. Is the Martian north polar
sea superfluous?
I had originally ordered some of these from Demco, to protect some of
my ARCs, and a few paperback originals. After seeing Kurt's posting, I
decided to give Brodart a try. Though I don't like their dust jacket
protectors as well as the Demco, these seem indistinguishable. The
Brodart are a few cents less, and the shipping charges are less, too.
It only takes a few minutes to slip the book into one, and fold the
leftover plastic into place.
In message <O0K8s.171851$356.164...@fx07.am4>, Raymond Daley <raymond.da...@ntlworld.com> writes
>Fablon.
>Used to use it back in the RAF on ID cards and other things we wanted to
>protect from damage.
>Also useful for practical jokes.
>Like sealing up a phone book then giving it to an officer you don't like and
>telling him it's his replacement phone book.
Marginally kinder than clingfilm (ceran wrap?) across the top of the toilet bowl.
In article <f3i+NGf$kLdQF...@parkhead.demon.co.uk>,
Jacey Bedford <lookin...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>In message <O0K8s.171851$356.164...@fx07.am4>, Raymond Daley ><raymond.da...@ntlworld.com> writes
>>Fablon.
>>Used to use it back in the RAF on ID cards and other things we wanted to
>>protect from damage.
>>Also useful for practical jokes.
>>Like sealing up a phone book then giving it to an officer you don't like and
>>telling him it's his replacement phone book.
>Marginally kinder than clingfilm (ceran wrap?) across the top of the >toilet bowl.
Saran Wrap. (tm, I think).
-- Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.
>>>Used to use it back in the RAF on ID cards and other things we wanted to
>>>protect from damage.
>>>Also useful for practical jokes.
>>>Like sealing up a phone book then giving it to an officer you don't like and
>>>telling him it's his replacement phone book.
>>Marginally kinder than clingfilm (ceran wrap?) across the top of the
>>toilet bowl.
>Saran Wrap. (tm, I think).
Possibly. I tend not to buy clingfilm in the US and Seran/Ceran wrap is not a British term, so I've heard it but never seen it written.
>>>>Used to use it back in the RAF on ID cards and other things we
>>>>wanted to protect from damage.
>>>>Also useful for practical jokes.
>>>>Like sealing up a phone book then giving it to an officer you
>>>>don't like and telling him it's his replacement phone book.
>>>Marginally kinder than clingfilm (ceran wrap?) across the top
>>>of the toilet bowl.
>>Saran Wrap. (tm, I think).
> Possibly. I tend not to buy clingfilm in the US and Seran/Ceran
> wrap is not a British term, so I've heard it but never seen it
> written.
<lookin...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Possibly. I tend not to buy clingfilm in the US and Seran/Ceran wrap is > not a British term, so I've heard it but never seen it written.
Huh! Wikipedia says Saran is a kind of plastic, and that in some
countries "Saran" has lost its trademark status. I saw a lot of Saran
Wrap in my youth, but never suspected that "Saran" meant anything.
Wiki doesn't say whether Saran Wrap is still being sold, but that's
implied in the assertion that it's no longer made of Saran. (I buy
only the house brand, so I don't see the fancy brands. Last time I
bought a name brand, I found it brittle and inclined to tear, and
didn't think it as good as the cheaper wrap.)
In following the cross references, I also learned that "greaseproof
paper" doesn't mean "wax paper". I wonder whether I could find some
greaseproof paper if I poked around in Kroger -- they have parchment
paper and wide aluminum foil and other stuff that used to be only
written about, never sold to home cooks.
-- Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ The above message is a Usenet post. I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
>> Possibly. I tend not to buy clingfilm in the US and Seran/Ceran wrap is
>> not a British term, so I've heard it but never seen it written.
>Saran Wrap, a product of the Dow Chemical Corporation.
Dow sold all of their consumer products some years ago, mostly to
S.C. Johnson (f/k/a "Johnson Wax"). The pharmaceutical division
(Marion Merrell Dow) was sold to Hoechst (now part of Sanofi).
-GAWollman
-- Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft
woll...@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
> Huh! Wikipedia says Saran is a kind of plastic, and that in some
> countries "Saran" has lost its trademark status. I saw a lot of Saran
> Wrap in my youth, but never suspected that "Saran" meant anything.
When I was in grade school, a science experiment (rubbing a fluorescent bulb with plastic wrap to make it light, as I recall) referred to it as 'saran plastic.' This was a U.S. publication, and I suspect their usage would have been disputed by the rights-holder if they found out, since they'd want to protect their product name and all.
Interesting that it's not a trademark any more in some places. I didn't know that.
> On Oct 11, 4:31 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And, apparently, you've never hear of Google.
> I didn't know there was a phonetic Google. Mind you, Googling
> plastic cling wrap ought to have turned up some hits.
In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out what you meant. Go type in something incorrectly, and not the "Did you mean" link at the top. (In fact, these days, it's nearly impossible to get it to actually search for something that's misspelled on purpose.)
-- Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
> In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out
> what you meant. [...]
Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides
to substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search
twice; I consider this behavior unconscionable.
>> In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out
>> what you meant. [...]
> Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
> whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
> something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
> it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides
> to substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search
> twice; I consider this behavior unconscionable.
Or at least annoying. But Gogole made it very clear years ago that they know what's best for you *far* better than you ever weill, now shut up and eat your advertising like a good little sheeple.
But as long as they're not Microfoft, they can od anything they want and not get called out on it as an evil empire.
-- Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote >> In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out what you meant.
> Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
> whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
> something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
> it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides to > substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search twice;
I much more often get the reverse effect, I hardly ever want what google decides I might well have misspelt.
And you hardly ever have to search twice, just click on the
alternative at the top.
> Brian M. Scott <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote >> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote >>> In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out
>>> what you meant.
>> Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
>> whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
>> something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
>> it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides to >> substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search twice; > I much more often get the reverse effect, I hardly ever > want what google decides I might well have misspelt.
If you read it again, you may actually come to realize that
I said much the same thing. 'One time in ten' qualifies as
'hardly ever' in my book.
> And you hardly ever have to search twice, just click on the
> alternative at the top.
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote >> Brian M. Scott <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote >>> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote >>>> In fact, Google is actually pretty good >>>> at figuring out what you meant.
>>> Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
>>> whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
>>> something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
>>> it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides to >>> substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search twice; >> I much more often get the reverse effect, I hardly ever >> want what google decides I might well have misspelt. > If you read it again, you may actually come > to realize that I said much the same thing.
No you did not.
> 'One time in ten' qualifies as 'hardly ever' in my book.
Yes, BUT in my case its one time in ten that google gets that WRONG.
In fact its actually closer to one time in 100 that google gets it wrong.
>> And you hardly ever have to search twice, >> just click on the alternative at the top. > Which of course is searching twice.
Not when you don't have to enter the search text twice it isnt.
>> In fact, Google is actually pretty good at figuring out
>> what you meant. [...]
>Yes, it is; and if it would just go ahead and search for
>whatever I did type and ask me whether I actually meant
>something else, I'd be delighted; perhaps one time in ten
>it's actually helpful. Too often, unfortunately, it decides
>to substitute its version for mine, forcing me to search
>twice; I consider this behavior unconscionable.
I went to a college named SAIT. Whenever I searched for anything
regarding the college, I had to add -saint and -st to any search
because Google insisted on doing the search for what it thought I
wanted without even offering the choice of a "search for what you
actually typed".
-- I used to own a mind like a steel trap.
Perhaps if I'd specified a brass one, it
wouldn't have rusted like this.
