Girl Genius 12-23-09
Brenda Clough
Brenda
Paul Ciszek
In article <hgrubi$lqk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Brenda Clough <Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Are the crew of that machine dead?
I guess spark doctors aren't bound by anything like a Hipocatic oath.
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Dorothy J Heydt
Brenda Clough <Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OMG!
YES!
I love it.
One variable removed from the equation, for the time being at
least.
(I *always* listen to my doctors, of whom I have several at this
stage.)
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Dorothy J Heydt
Paul Ciszek <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
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>Brenda Clough <Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Are the crew of that machine dead?
Don't think so. Just stunned. Note that Klaus isn't dead.
That's a hypodermic Dr. Sun just plunged into his torso, not a
dagger (as I thought for a moment).
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>I guess spark doctors aren't bound by anything like a Hipocatic oath.
That's Hippocratic. The Oath of Hippocrates.
Quite possibly they are. And it's even possible that Dr. Sun
would consider it better to let a few patients die rather than
see Europa laid waste again. But in this case, it doesnb't apply.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
> OMG!
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> Brenda
Heh
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NEVER piss off your doctor. It's ALMOST as bad as pissing off THE Doctor.
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Paul Ciszek
In article <Kv33J...@kithrup.com>,
I thought I saw pieces of metal sticking out of the bodies of the
crew that had been operating the clank. Not blades, more like
shrapnel or structural pieces.
Quadibloc
> Quite possibly they are. And it's even possible that Dr. Sun
> would consider it better to let a few patients die rather than
> see Europa laid waste again. But in this case, it doesnb't apply.
I'm still hoping that while Dr. Sun is showing up now to put Klaus out
of action, it wasn't him directing the attack all along. Certainly, as
a Spark, he (Dr. Sun) could do crazy things and lose control of
himself, though.
John Savard
Wayne Throop
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: I thought I saw pieces of metal sticking out of the bodies of the crew
: that had been operating the clank. Not blades, more like shrapnel or
: structural pieces.
I seem to see only one body, and only one bit of shrapnel,
in her right arm. Since they are located in the courtyard of the
premiere hospital of Europa, I expect her chances of survival are
quite excellent, and she probably won't even need to be revived.
I wonder if the female on the left in the first panel is a response
to comomends that no women in the story seem to show signs of age?
'Oh, that's the name of the song, is it?' Alice said,
trying to feel interested.
'No, you don't understand,' the Knight said, looking a little vexed.
'That's what the name is *called*. The name really *is*
"The Aged Aged Man."'
Wayne Throop thr...@sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw
David DeLaney
>Brenda Clough wrote:
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>NEVER piss off your doctor. It's ALMOST as bad as pissing off THE Doctor.
Now THAT'S a bedside manner. I hope the interns are taking notes from the
observation balcony.
Dave
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Robert Carnegie
> In article <hgrubi$lqk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Brenda Clough <Brenda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I guess spark doctors aren't bound by anything like a Hipocatic oath.
"First, do no harm that you don't know how to undo."
I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
hospital) is unknown.
Wayne Throop
: I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
: Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
: hospital) is unknown.
Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
<looks back over last 3 pages>
Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
In between the huge battle with Klaus somewhere?
Dorothy J Heydt
My money's on Dr. Sun himself. "All right, troops, fire at will
after my word: you're aiming for the walker, not the Baron; and
the softer the landing you can give him, the more Funkenbrau in
your mess this evening. Fire!"
Dorothy J Heydt
>: Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
>: I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
>: Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
>: hospital) is unknown.
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>Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
><looks back over last 3 pages>
>Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
>In between the huge battle with Klaus somewhere?
Somebody (and, as I said elsethread, I think it's at Sun's
command) is firing at Klaus's walker within the hospital complex.
Robert Sneddon
<djh...@kithrup.com> writes
>Somebody (and, as I said elsethread, I think it's at Sun's
>command) is firing at Klaus's walker within the hospital complex.
I think it's all Doctor Sun, nothing to do with the hospital staff.
Have a look at Doctor Sun's left arm in Wednesday's strip, and compare
it with:
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080528
Klaus' medical transporter has been "enlightened" by Doctor Sun (the
Chinese/kanji character behind his arm is the glyph for
"enlightenment"). He got distracted for a bit, that's all and wasn't
able to sort things out until now.
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Robert Carnegie
> : Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
> : I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
> : Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
> : hospital) is unknown.
>
> Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
> <looks back over last 3 pages>
> Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
> In between the huge battle with Klaus somewhere?
Where they're ordering patient evacuations. The fight is at the
hospital: that's why I don't think it's Sun doing it. Not to his own
patients: not even provoking Klaus to do it as collateral damage.
That, plus the Wulfenbach forces don't seem to be counter-attacking
hospital people. Plus I'm not sure whether Dr. Sun counts as an
"Incoming!" with his mysterious manga power fist, but I'm not very
familiar with that material. I know Iron Fist in Marvel Comics, who
has a paranormal ability to supercharge his fist with mystical power.
Wayne Throop
:: Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
: Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
: Where they're ordering patient evacuations. The fight is at the
: hospital: that's why I don't think it's Sun doing it.
I... don't follow that. The fight is at the hospital,
Sun is at the hospital, Klaus is at the hospital, why wouldn't
it be Klaus vs Sun?
FWIW, my observation is that the only actual damage is on or near Klaus'
med-mech. Craters and residual fires and such from various forms of
ordinance directed at Klaus. Klaus is in the courtyard, and the patient
evacuations specified the patiens facing the courtyard. So everything
is consistent with Klaus-vs-various-minions-acting-for-his-own-good,
with possible collateral damage to the parts of the hospital
closest to the conflict... so that's what I conclude has occured.
Robert Carnegie
> :: Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
> :: <looks back over last 3 pages>
> :: Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
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> : Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
> : Where they're ordering patient evacuations. The fight is at the
> : hospital: that's why I don't think it's Sun doing it.
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> I... don't follow that. The fight is at the hospital,
> Sun is at the hospital, Klaus is at the hospital, why wouldn't
> it be Klaus vs Sun?
Cuz I still figure that Sun would let Klaus leave the hospital and
then knock him down in the street, if he wanted to. Bad publicity as
that would be. And I figure that Klaus's staff would not let Sun
pound on Klaus and not intervene. Dupree especially.
But maybe you're right and I'm wrong. I want more data, but I'm not
confident the point will be returned to.
Wayne Throop
: Cuz I still figure that Sun would let Klaus leave the hospital and
: then knock him down in the street, if he wanted to. Bad publicity as
: that would be. And I figure that Klaus's staff would not let Sun
: pound on Klaus and not intervene. Dupree especially.
Excellent points. I account for them by a) Sun let him leave
(reluctantly) with implicit condition that he take it easy and that it
be short term, on pain of mech-disassembly, b) this battle seems to be
occurring on hospital grounds, quite possibly almost entirely obscured
from street view, c) it would be worse publicity for Klaus to die from
overexertion, and short of that, their publicity is about as bad as it
can get, d) I expect/conclude Sun was acting in collusion with Klaus'
staff, having convinced them Klaus was endangering himself.
I first twigged to this possibility here
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20091221
the page before the explicit reveal. I think mostly because of Dupree's
line; it's the sort of thing you say when you are finally succeeding in
a difficult task after a struggle (eg, opening a particularly stubborn
jar of pickles, heh), but commenting on events by a third party, not quite
so much. Yes, it's compatible with an outside attack, but it struck me
as incongruous.
Dorothy J Heydt
>: Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
>: Cuz I still figure that Sun would let Klaus leave the hospital and
>: then knock him down in the street, if he wanted to. Bad publicity as
>: that would be. And I figure that Klaus's staff would not let Sun
>: pound on Klaus and not intervene. Dupree especially.
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>Excellent points. I account for them by a) Sun let him leave
>(reluctantly) with implicit condition that he take it easy and that it
>be short term, on pain of mech-disassembly, b) this battle seems to be
>occurring on hospital grounds, quite possibly almost entirely obscured
>from street view, c) it would be worse publicity for Klaus to die from
>overexertion, and short of that, their publicity is about as bad as it
>can get, d) I expect/conclude Sun was acting in collusion with Klaus'
>staff, having convinced them Klaus was endangering himself.
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>I first twigged to this possibility here
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> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20091221
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>the page before the explicit reveal. I think mostly because of Dupree's
>line; it's the sort of thing you say when you are finally succeeding in
>a difficult task after a struggle (eg, opening a particularly stubborn
Yes. That would be enough to convince me that Sun had planned
the attack and Dupree was among those carrying out, unless/until
further data arrived to disprove it.
Robert Carnegie
doing it, and Klaus's... thing... would have the legs cut off by now.
Its operators, maybe likewise. Klaus wouldn't be pleased but she's
done worse... although not when he thought the stakes were as high as
this.
And Klaus has already entrusted Dupree with the secret knowledge about
their slaver wasp infestation, Agatha's possible role, and the likely
need to kill her - I think that's his current policy. She can do that
without Klaus up and about, can't she?
Ah well: if someone else is attacking then I suppose we'll see them
soon enough.
Konrad Gaertner
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> Ah well: if someone else is attacking then I suppose we'll see them
> soon enough.
But not too soon... scene change tomorrow.
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William George Ferguson
<rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>Wayne Throop wrote:
>> : Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
>> : I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
>> : Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
>> : hospital) is unknown.
>>
>> Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
>> <looks back over last 3 pages>
>> Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
>> In between the huge battle with Klaus somewhere?
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>Where they're ordering patient evacuations. The fight is at the
>hospital: that's why I don't think it's Sun doing it.
Sun Daiyu is ordering the patients be evacuated from the rooms opening on
to the inner courtyard, which indicates the only potential fallout is from
there. If the hospital were under external attack they evacuation would be
different, and probably more widespread.
When Klaus goes down, she then orders the firefighters and orderlies
forward. There is no external attack, that was all Klaus and Sun.
>Not to his own
>patients: not even provoking Klaus to do it as collateral damage.
>That, plus the Wulfenbach forces don't seem to be counter-attacking
>hospital people. Plus I'm not sure whether Dr. Sun counts as an
>"Incoming!" with his mysterious manga power fist, but I'm not very
>familiar with that material. I know Iron Fist in Marvel Comics, who
>has a paranormal ability to supercharge his fist with mystical power.
--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
(Bene Gesserit)
Robert Sneddon
Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> writes
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>When Klaus goes down, she then orders the firefighters and orderlies
>forward. There is no external attack, that was all Klaus and Sun.
Dr. Sun was willing to use the Arm of Enlightenment on Klaus to get him
back into bed -- see:
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080528
He just got distracted for a while by a tricky medical problem. Now
that's sorted out he's returned to the discussion he was having earlier
with Klaus.
>> Plus I'm not sure whether Dr. Sun counts as an
>>"Incoming!" with his mysterious manga power fist, but I'm not very
>>familiar with that material.
The earlier appearance of the Arm of Enlightenment was enough to worry
Klaus Wulfenbach and anything that powerful has got to be a force to be
reckoned with.
Robert Carnegie
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:23:15 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
> <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
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> >Wayne Throop wrote:
> >> : Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com>
> >> : I don't think this whole scene is Sun vs. Klaus, it's just Sun vs.
> >> : Klaus Getting Back Up Again. But who's shooting (shooting at the
> >> : hospital) is unknown.
> >>
> >> Somebody's shooting at the hospital?
> >> <looks back over last 3 pages>
> >> Nope, don't see it. Where did that happen?
> >> In between the huge battle with Klaus somewhere?
> >
> >Where they're ordering patient evacuations. The fight is at the
> >hospital: that's why I don't think it's Sun doing it.
>
> Sun Daiyu is ordering the patients be evacuated from the rooms opening on
> to the inner courtyard, which indicates the only potential fallout is from
> there. If the hospital were under external attack they evacuation would be
> different, and probably more widespread.
>
> When Klaus goes down, she then orders the firefighters and orderlies
> forward. There is no external attack, that was all Klaus and Sun.
I still think that a good enough shot might be aiming at Klaus, in the
hospital courtyard, and hitting only the courtyard, not the rest of
the building. But from where do you get a view of the "inner
courtyard"? Either from mountains around Mechanicsburg, or Castle
Heterodyne itself, or from an airship.
The Castle chased the pink airship into range of Castle Wulfenbach -
but then attacked Castle Wulfenbach as well. So the Barbie Barrage
Balloon could be still up there - and barraging. Or someone else
could have arrived. "Altitude" Anselm could have made a quick
surprise ascent of Mount Don'teventryit with his amazing oxygen
biscuits (don't toast 'em). Or Zola now could have a crew of Spark
allies and minions up on the battlements.