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James Nicoll

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Jan 7, 2012, 12:06:14 PM1/7/12
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Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
Schrodinger?
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Jim Smith

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Jan 7, 2012, 2:23:23 PM1/7/12
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In message <je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
<jdni...@panix.com> writes
>
>Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
>Schrodinger?

No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
Schrodinger
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Kip Williams

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Jan 7, 2012, 2:40:38 PM1/7/12
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Weren't those in a box set?


Kip W
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Peter Ward

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Jan 7, 2012, 4:33:27 PM1/7/12
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Kip Williams says...
Maybe. Maybe not.

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Robert Carnegie

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Jan 7, 2012, 9:17:06 PM1/7/12
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On Jan 7, 5:06 pm, jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> Schrodinger?
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- checks the name of the character in Poe's "The Squaw". finds, as
usual, that that story was written by someone else instead, Bram
Stoker. and the cat's enemy is Elias P. Hutcheson, of Nebraska.

Kip Williams

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Jan 8, 2012, 2:08:30 AM1/8/12
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Peter Ward wrote:
> Kip Williams says...
>>
>> Jim Smith wrote:
>>> In message<je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
>>> <jdni...@panix.com> writes
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
>>>> Schrodinger?
>>>
>>> No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
>>> Schrodinger
>>
>> Weren't those in a box set?
>
> Maybe. Maybe not.

That's a cat book for you.


Kip W
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Greg Goss

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Jan 8, 2012, 3:36:42 AM1/8/12
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A single book. You couldn't tell which one you bought till you took
the cellophane off and opened it.
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Jim G.

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Jan 8, 2012, 11:31:55 AM1/8/12
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Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
> Kip Williams says...
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> > > In message <je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
> > > <jdni...@panix.com> writes
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> > >> Schrodinger?
> > >
> > > No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
> > > Schrodinger
> >
> > Weren't those in a box set?
>
> Maybe. Maybe not.

It depends on how you look at it.

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Don Bruder

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Jan 8, 2012, 2:06:55 PM1/8/12
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In article <n7hjg7ps9rh4ti7aj...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote:

> Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
> > Kip Williams says...
> > >
> > > Jim Smith wrote:
> > > > In message <je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
> > > > <jdni...@panix.com> writes
> > > >>
> > > >> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> > > >> Schrodinger?
> > > >
> > > > No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
> > > > Schrodinger
> > >
> > > Weren't those in a box set?
> >
> > Maybe. Maybe not.
>
> It depends on how you look at it.

Or perhaps, when...

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Jonathan

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Jan 8, 2012, 2:30:08 PM1/8/12
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"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
>> Kip Williams says...
>> >
>> > Jim Smith wrote:
>> > > In message <je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
>> > > <jdni...@panix.com> writes
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge
>> > >> on
>> > >> Schrodinger?
>> > >
>> > > No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
>> > > Schrodinger
>> >
>> > Weren't those in a box set?
>>
>> Maybe. Maybe not.
>
> It depends on how you look at it.


Well if the revenge takes place in a forest, and
there's no one else to see it, is it still dead?

And when will you scientists stop using live animals
for your research~


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Kip Williams

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Jan 8, 2012, 4:22:52 PM1/8/12
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Jim G. wrote:
> Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
>> Kip Williams says...
>>>
>>> Jim Smith wrote:
>>>> In message<je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
>>>> <jdni...@panix.com> writes
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
>>>>> Schrodinger?
>>>>
>>>> No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
>>>> Schrodinger
>>>
>>> Weren't those in a box set?
>>
>> Maybe. Maybe not.
>
> It depends on how you look at it.

There's more than one way to scan a cat. Book.


Kip W
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Jim G.

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Jan 8, 2012, 6:11:41 PM1/8/12
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Don Bruder sent the following on Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:06:55 -0800:
> In article <n7hjg7ps9rh4ti7aj...@4ax.com>,
> Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
> > > Kip Williams says...
> > > >
> > > > Jim Smith wrote:
> > > > > In message <je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
> > > > > <jdni...@panix.com> writes
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> > > > >> Schrodinger?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
> > > > > Schrodinger
> > > >
> > > > Weren't those in a box set?
> > >
> > > Maybe. Maybe not.
> >
> > It depends on how you look at it.
>
> Or perhaps, when...

So it would appear.

Jon Schild

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Jan 8, 2012, 10:13:07 PM1/8/12
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When people figure out how to do the needed research on dead ones.

Gene Wirchenko

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Jan 9, 2012, 12:51:44 AM1/9/12
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:06:14 +0000 (UTC), jdni...@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

>Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
>Schrodinger?

No, but it sounds like a good idea. When I saw your title, I
thought that another good one would be butterflies being irritated
over that chaos thing.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Kay Shapero

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Jan 10, 2012, 3:36:33 AM1/10/12
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In article <i10lg7dc6baolaj0j...@4ax.com>, ge...@ocis.net
says...
Every time a butterfly flaps its wings, another cat goes from being dead
(or alive) to alive (or dead)? :)

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Robert Carnegie

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Jan 10, 2012, 7:03:00 AM1/10/12
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On Jan 7, 5:06 pm, jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> Schrodinger?

Terry Pratchett's _The Unadulterated Cat_ includes Schrodinger cats,
which can quantum-leap through doors and such - unless they're being
observed, I guess, when they wail for a human to be so kind as to open
the door and let them through. I forget whether they take out their
agression on the laboratory assistant on the way out of the box. I
don't think this amounts to a short story. It isn't Schrodinger
himself, it's unnamed scientists who didn't understand that a thought-
experiment is one that you can't do, and that won't work.

JRStern

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Jan 10, 2012, 12:22:59 PM1/10/12
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:51:44 -0800, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@ocis.net>
wrote:
You mean, like a butterfly tries to extort a billion dollars (in
flowers?) from the president of the United States, or else he will
flap his wings and cause a devastating hurricane?

Pinky and The Butterfly?

J.


Larry Headlund

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Jan 11, 2012, 8:40:25 AM1/11/12
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On 01/08/2012 02:30 PM, Jonathan wrote:
> "Jim G."<jimg...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:n7hjg7ps9rh4ti7aj...@4ax.com...
>> Peter Ward sent the following on Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:33:27 -0000:
>>> Kip Williams says...
>>>>
>>>> Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>> In message<je9u26$gv1$1...@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
>>>>> <jdni...@panix.com> writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Schrodinger?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but I can remember the one where the cat doesn't take revenge on
>>>>> Schrodinger
>>>>
>>>> Weren't those in a box set?
>>>
>>> Maybe. Maybe not.
>>
>> It depends on how you look at it.
>
>
> Well if the revenge takes place in a forest, and
> there's no one else to see it, is it still dead?
>
> And when will you scientists stop using live animals
> for your research~
>
Are you sure it's alive?

Jonathan

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Jan 11, 2012, 8:54:25 PM1/11/12
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"Larry Headlund" <l...@world.std.com> wrote in message
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I bet those animals feel half-dead at least!


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Gene Wirchenko

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Jan 12, 2012, 11:19:53 PM1/12/12
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:54:25 -0500, "Jonathan" <Calli...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The interns probably feel the same way.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Gene Wirchenko

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Jan 12, 2012, 11:21:35 PM1/12/12
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:36:33 -0800, Kay Shapero <k...@invalid.net>
wrote:

>In article <i10lg7dc6baolaj0j...@4ax.com>, ge...@ocis.net
>says...
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:06:14 +0000 (UTC), jdni...@panix.com (James
>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
>> >Schrodinger?
>>
>> No, but it sounds like a good idea. When I saw your title, I
>> thought that another good one would be butterflies being irritated
>> over that chaos thing.
>
>Every time a butterfly flaps its wings, another cat goes from being dead
>(or alive) to alive (or dead)? :)

No. All those storms getting blamed on butterflies. (I wasn't
there!" "Doesn't matter with chaos theory. You could have been in
Brazil for all we care. It's your fault.")

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Nigel

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Jan 13, 2012, 6:21:32 AM1/13/12
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On Jan 7, 6:06 pm, jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> Does anyone here remember a short story in which a cat takes revenge on
> Schrodinger?

Not quite what you specified but back in the eighties, I remember a
cartoon in New Scientist that depicted Schroedinger describing his
experiment. He put the radio-active material, detector and poison
into a box. There then followed several panels as Schroedinger tried
to force a cat into the box as well, with the cat objecting strongly.
The final line was "Maybe we should make this a *thought* experiment".


Cheers,
Nigel.

Kip Williams

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Jan 13, 2012, 10:11:44 AM1/13/12
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You can't put a cat in a box on a night like this!


Kip W
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Kip Williams

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Jan 13, 2012, 10:18:58 AM1/13/12
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But the cat came back,
Or maybe it didn't,
Yes, the cat came back,
Or else it stayed 'late,'
It came back or not,
You could not predict its state.


Kip W
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Walter Bushell

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Jan 13, 2012, 10:49:04 AM1/13/12
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In article
<c62a43ab-b458-40e3...@y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
"What for u hide me in dark cold box?" ~ Schrodinger's LOLcat

From: Gary Edstrom <gedstrom#NoSpam.pacbell.net>
Wanted: Good home for abused cat.

The Humane Society has placed up for adoption a lovable cat that was
recently removed from the laboratory of a noted physicist. The animal
was abused repeatedly, having been exposed to poisonous gas and also
being placed in close proximity to radio activity. Cruel experiments
like this can not be tolerated. The owner has been charged with
numerous counts of animal cruelty. Dr. Schrodinger's cat is
recovering nicely, however.

From: "The Sophontologist" <sophontologist#NoSpam.look.ca>
Mrs. Schroedinger to Mr. Schroedinger: What the hell did you do to the
cat?
It looks half dead!

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It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant
and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting. -- H. L. Mencken

Greg Goss

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Jan 13, 2012, 3:32:03 PM1/13/12
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Kip Williams <mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You can't put a cat in a box on a night like this!

How about if the box is airtight?

(thinking of another eye-of-Newt controversy about a prez candidate.)

Greg Goss

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Jan 13, 2012, 3:33:11 PM1/13/12
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The bottle of poison must have been badly sealed and smelled bad. In
my experience, it's hard to keep cats out of boxes.

Kip Williams

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Jan 13, 2012, 5:17:19 PM1/13/12
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Greg Goss wrote:
> Kip Williams<mrk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can't put a cat in a box on a night like this!
>
> How about if the box is airtight?
>
> (thinking of another eye-of-Newt controversy about a prez candidate.)

Mittinger's Dog?


Kip W
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David DeLaney

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Jan 14, 2012, 12:22:55 AM1/14/12
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Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>Nigel <ncw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Not quite what you specified but back in the eighties, I remember a
>>cartoon in New Scientist that depicted Schroedinger describing his
>>experiment. He put the radio-active material, detector and poison
>>into a box. There then followed several panels as Schroedinger tried
>>to force a cat into the box as well, with the cat objecting strongly.
>>The final line was "Maybe we should make this a *thought* experiment".
>
>The bottle of poison must have been badly sealed and smelled bad. In
>my experience, it's hard to keep cats out of boxes.

Unless they associate the particular box with being taken to the vet, or
somewhere equivalent. Then just TRY...

Dave "your cat may vary, of course" DeLaney
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Greg Goss

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d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:

>Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>>Nigel <ncw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>Not quite what you specified but back in the eighties, I remember a
>>>cartoon in New Scientist that depicted Schroedinger describing his
>>>experiment. He put the radio-active material, detector and poison
>>>into a box. There then followed several panels as Schroedinger tried
>>>to force a cat into the box as well, with the cat objecting strongly.
>>>The final line was "Maybe we should make this a *thought* experiment".
>>
>>The bottle of poison must have been badly sealed and smelled bad. In
>>my experience, it's hard to keep cats out of boxes.
>
>Unless they associate the particular box with being taken to the vet, or
>somewhere equivalent. Then just TRY...
>
>Dave "your cat may vary, of course" DeLaney

She did. She was shipped across Canada in a shipping cage. 4.5 hours
for the flight, but we couldn't pick her up for another hour and a
half after that, so six hours.

We left it in a corner of the room with the door open, and she was
living in it within the week.

She loved the vets I chose for her. It was hard getting her into the
box to come home.

Kip Williams

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Jan 14, 2012, 9:59:40 AM1/14/12
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Greg Goss wrote:

> She loved the vets I chose for her. It was hard getting her into the
> box to come home.

The trick is to have the vet go in the box first, then sneak out after
the cat follows.


Kip W
rasfw

Nigel

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Jan 18, 2012, 5:06:07 AM1/18/12
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I'd like to see the MythBusters version. "Now we'll repeat the
experiment, only we'll replace the vial of poison with 30 sticks of
dynamite ..."

Cheers,
Nigel.

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