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veritas
Any good stories that feature beer?
Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
Kurt Busiek
> Any good stories that feature beer?
As always, THE DRAWING OF THE DARK by Tim Powers.
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Kurt Busiek
> On 2009-12-21 19:42:07 -0800, veritas <verit...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> As always, THE DRAWING OF THE DARK by Tim Powers.
And "The Proud Robot" by Henry Kuttner
Dorothy J Heydt
veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Any good stories that feature beer?
>
>Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
Poul Anderson, _The Makeshift Spacecraft_ (originally
serialized in Astounding as "A Bicycle Built for Brew").
There's Powers's _The Drawing of the Dark_, but I don't consider
that a good story. YMMV.
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>On 2009-12-21 19:50:59 -0800, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com> said:
>
>> On 2009-12-21 19:42:07 -0800, veritas <verit...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Any good stories that feature beer?
>>
>> As always, THE DRAWING OF THE DARK by Tim Powers.
>
>And "The Proud Robot" by Henry Kuttner
"That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
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>
>
> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
One of my friends just said that the Paladin of Shadows
series has "Tiger Beer".
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David DeLaney
>Any good stories that feature beer?
The Drawing of the Dark, by Powers?
(And you're a different veritas, right?)
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> veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> The Drawing of the Dark, by Powers?
>
> (And you're a different veritas, right?)
>
> Dave
Yes, he is. The other one could only be posting if someone's invented
an Ouija board interface.
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Jack Bohn
>
>
>Any good stories that feature beer?
>
Spider Robinson's Calahan's, Clarke's White Hart, and de Camp and
Pratt's Gavagan's feature your choice of poisons. I can't think
that any had beer fueling the stories, rather than merely
greasing the wheels.
--
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Anthony Nance
>
>
> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
How about a brewery and a tavern?:
Beer is prominent in all of Glen Cook's Garrett books - basically,
Garrett loves his beer. At least one of the books features Garrett
working a case for the patriarch of a big brewery, with several
scenes in the brewery itself. He's generally on retainer there,
but the brewery is far in the background in most of the books.
Zelazny's "Unicorn Variation" is a story about playing chess
against a unicorn in a tavern. Beer is the beverage of choice
there, and a number of characters drink it in the story.
Tony
BillGill
>
> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
the pulps way back when. It was series of stories about a man who was
a genius when he was drunk. He could always figure out how to take care
of any problem. He had a robot that thought it was the greatest thing
around. He built it while he was drunk, and couldn't remember what it
was for. He had one problem, and that was the way beer always sprayed
when you punctured the top. The final story it turned out that the
robot was a beer can opener. It could open the can without the spray.
And then they announced they weren't going to put beer in cans any more.
Bill
Bill Snyder
wrote:
Henry Kuttner's tales of Galloway Gallagher (published originally
under the pen name of Lewis Padgett), collected in _Robots Have No
Tails_.
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Chris
> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
Beer made an appearance in..._Memory_ I think it was, by Bujold. Miles
and Illyan go fishing and bring a few bottles of local, home brewed
beer with them. Miles gets a little tipsy and almost falls overboard.
Chris
James Nicoll
David DeLaney <d...@vic.com> wrote:
>veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Any good stories that feature beer?
>
>The Drawing of the Dark, by Powers?
>
>(And you're a different veritas, right?)
The other veritas is dead.
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<bc706058-93d2-4b70...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
veritas <verit...@gmail.com> writes
>
>
>Any good stories that feature beer?
Robert Rankin, especially the Brentford trilogy.
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Szymon Sokół
And in LOTR as well (the hobbits drinking at Green Dragon or Prancing Pony),
but if we want to mention *every* story in which beer is mentioned, this
thread will not end sooner than in a year. Even without drifting.
It would be more interesting if there were specific types or brands of beer
mentioned. Off hand, I can only recall the red Yarran beer that people in
"Killashandra" series were so fond of.
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Kurt Busiek
That's the already-mentioned "The Proud Robot" by Henry Kuttner, part
of the Galloway Gallagher series.
Well worth rereading.
Chris
<szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:37:07 -0800 (PST), Chris wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 10:42 pm, veritas <veritas....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> >> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
>
> > Beer made an appearance in..._Memory_ I think it was, by Bujold. Miles
> > and Illyan go fishing and bring a few bottles of local, home brewed
> > beer with them. Miles gets a little tipsy and almost falls overboard.
>
> And in LOTR as well (the hobbits drinking at Green Dragon or Prancing Pony),
> but if we want to mention *every* story in which beer is mentioned, this
> thread will not end sooner than in a year. Even without drifting.
>
> It would be more interesting if there were specific types or brands of beer
> mentioned. Off hand, I can only recall the red Yarran beer that people in
> "Killashandra" series were so fond of.
Well, in one sense it works: Miles' discussion does touch on the
excellent nature of the home brew. Also, don't the Hobbits compare the
quality of beer at different pubs in the Shire? That's probably as
close as you'd get to types in that story.
Chris
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BillGill
Bill
Dorothy J Heydt
Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 22, 11:17 am, Szymon Sokół
><szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>>
>> And in LOTR as well (the hobbits drinking at Green Dragon or Prancing Pony),
>> but if we want to mention *every* story in which beer is mentioned, this
>> thread will not end sooner than in a year. Even without drifting.
>>
>quality of beer at different pubs in the Shire? That's probably as
>close as you'd get to types in that story.
Since each pub would brew its own beer, yes. The Golden Perch in
Stock, according to Pippin, has the best beer in the
Eastfarthing. But Farmer Maggott's homebrew (and he is also in
the Eastfarthing) is apparently just as good. There's also a
comment that the beer in the Prancing Pony was always good even
before Gandalf blessed it.
William George Ferguson
wrote:
>
>
>Any good stories that feature beer?
>
>Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
Beer figures on and off through most of the Riddlemaster trilogy (the first
chapter of the first book has Morgon and Elieu both very grumpy after
making sure that the beer was up to snuff for the trade ship's arrival
(grain, both in solid and concentrated liquid form, is Hed's primary cash
crop/export). Morgon likes beer and Readerle, well, doesn't.
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Robbie
<bc706058-93d2-4b70...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
It's a YASID, but I remember a short story about a guy that pissed off a
leprechaun who lived in the water. The leprechaun cursed the guy, so
that he could not touch water. The guy had to buy an electric razor,
because he could not shave with water.
He also drank a lot of beer, because that was the only thing he could
drink under the curse. The guy ended up apologizing to the leprechaun by
wrapping sugar cubes in cellophane, so they wouldn't dissolve in the
lake where the leprechaun lived. This pleased the leprechaun, so he
lifted the curse.
Joseph Nebus
I *think* that Horace L Gold's ``Trouble With Water'', 1939.
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Dorothy J Heydt
I don't know that one, but when I saw the subject line I was
reminded of the sequence in de Camp and Pratt's _Incomplete
Enchanter_ in which Harold Shea (stuck in one of those magic-
works universes), lacking sugar cubes, uses lumps of crystallized
honey. He uses charcoal or something to inscribe the runes C, H,
and O on the lumps, and sets them out in a pattern representing a
sugar molecule in the presence of (IIRC) some ripe peaches and
some water. He then recites (extempore!) a Spencerian stanza
ending, "Change then! for being water, ye cannot be worse," and
rapidly changes the sugar lumps around to represent CH3CH2OH.
Poof, alakazam, he generates a large amount of peach brandy.
Kurt Busiek
William December Starr
Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
> "That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
Oh, *that* hack. You should be ashamed to even admit that you
read him.
(Joke! It's a joke, okay?)
-- wds
William December Starr
jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) said:
> David DeLaney <d...@vic.com> wrote:
>
>> veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Any good stories that feature beer?
>>
>> [...]
>> (And you're a different veritas, right?)
>
> The other veritas is dead.
Yes: there was a war declared and he was the first casualty.
(because hey if you can't make dumb jokes about death, what _can_
you make them about?)
-- wds
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Starr) wrote:
Hey, Nathan and I went to college together.
Taki Kogoma
allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:
> In article <6789c894-b4b8-4983...@u37g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>><szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>>> And in LOTR as well (the hobbits drinking at Green Dragon or Prancing Pony),
>>> but if we want to mention *every* story in which beer is mentioned, this
>>> thread will not end sooner than in a year. Even without drifting.
>>
>>...Also, don't the Hobbits compare the
>>quality of beer at different pubs in the Shire? That's probably as
>>close as you'd get to types in that story.
>
> Since each pub would brew its own beer, yes. The Golden Perch in
> Stock, according to Pippin, has the best beer in the
> Eastfarthing. But Farmer Maggott's homebrew (and he is also in
> the Eastfarthing) is apparently just as good. There's also a
> comment that the beer in the Prancing Pony was always good even
> before Gandalf blessed it.
And the Barley crop of SR 1420 (after Sam's landscape reclaimation
project) is considered to have produced the finest beer in Shire
history.
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David DeLaney
>David DeLaney <d...@vic.com> wrote:
>>veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Any good stories that feature beer?
>>
>>The Drawing of the Dark, by Powers?
>>
>>(And you're a different veritas, right?)
>
> The other veritas is dead.
Just making _sure_.
Dave "a brand-new ser-vice / that lets you talk with the dead..." DeLaney
David DeLaney
>Kurt Busiek wrote:
>> BillGill <bill...@cox.net> said:
>>> Ok, this one is one I don't even remember who or where. I read them in
>>> the pulps way back when. It was series of stories about a man who was
>>> a genius when he was drunk. He could always figure out how to take care
>>> of any problem. He had a robot that thought it was the greatest thing
>>> around. He built it while he was drunk, and couldn't remember what it
>>> was for. He had one problem, and that was the way beer always sprayed
>>> when you punctured the top. The final story it turned out that the
>>> robot was a beer can opener. It could open the can without the spray.
>>> And then they announced they weren't going to put beer in cans any more.
>>
>> That's the already-mentioned "The Proud Robot" by Henry Kuttner, part of
>> the Galloway Gallagher series.
>>
>> Well worth rereading.
>Found it and dug it out. It is lying on my next pile.
Heh. We should have a subsidiary metric for the YASIDs, along with "time to
be answered correctly": "person with the book closest to hand in a to-be-read
pile".
Dave
David DeLaney
>wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>> "That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
>>
>>Oh, *that* hack. You should be ashamed to even admit that you read him.
>>
>>(Joke! It's a joke, okay?)
>
>Hey, Nathan and I went to college together.
Wait, lemme guess - you roomed together too?
Juho Julkunen
september.org>, Lawrence Watt-Evans (l...@sff.net) says...
> On 22 Dec 2009 15:49:00 -0500, wds...@panix.com (William December
> Starr) wrote:
>
> >In article <9qp0j591plqm01lob...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
> >
> >> "That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
> >
> >Oh, *that* hack. You should be ashamed to even admit that you
> >read him.
> >
> >(Joke! It's a joke, okay?)
>
> Hey, Nathan and I went to college together.
Were you close?
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Dorothy J Heydt
Taki Kogoma <qu...@swcp.com> wrote:
>On 2009-12-22, Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com>
>allegedly proclaimed to rec.arts.sf.written:
>> In article
><6789c894-b4b8-4983...@u37g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
>> Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Dec 22, 11:17??am, Szymon Sok????
>>><szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>>>> And in LOTR as well (the hobbits drinking at Green Dragon or Prancing Pony),
>>>> but if we want to mention *every* story in which beer is mentioned, this
>>>> thread will not end sooner than in a year. Even without drifting.
>>>
>>>...Also, don't the Hobbits compare the
>>>quality of beer at different pubs in the Shire? That's probably as
>>>close as you'd get to types in that story.
>>
>> Since each pub would brew its own beer, yes. The Golden Perch in
>> Stock, according to Pippin, has the best beer in the
>> Eastfarthing. But Farmer Maggott's homebrew (and he is also in
>> the Eastfarthing) is apparently just as good. There's also a
>> comment that the beer in the Prancing Pony was always good even
>> before Gandalf blessed it.
>
>And the Barley crop of SR 1420 (after Sam's landscape reclaimation
>project) is considered to have produced the finest beer in Shire
>history.
"Ah! That was proper fourteen-twenty, that was!"
Lawrence Watt-Evans
DeLaney) wrote:
>Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>>> "That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
>>>
>>>Oh, *that* hack. You should be ashamed to even admit that you read him.
>>>
>>>(Joke! It's a joke, okay?)
>>
>>Hey, Nathan and I went to college together.
>
>Wait, lemme guess - you roomed together too?
Not officially.
Kay Shapero
Just noticed this discussion. Anybody brought up Poul Anderson's "A
Bicycle Built for Brew" yet?
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Dorothy J Heydt
Kay Shapero <k...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>Just noticed this discussion. Anybody brought up Poul Anderson's "A
>Bicycle Built for Brew" yet?
I did, early on. A.k.a. "The Makeshift Spacecraft."
tkma...@yahoo.co.uk
At least 4 Gallagher stories are online:
"The Proud Robot"
<http://henrykuttner.bravehost.com/Kuttner,%20Henry%20-%20The%20Proud%20Robot.html>
"Gallegher Plus"
<http://henrykuttner.bravehost.com/Kuttner,%20Henry%20-%20Gallegher%20Plus.html>
"Ex Machina"
<http://henrykuttner.bravehost.com/Kuttner,%20Henry%20-%20Ex%20Machina.html>
"The Ego Machine"
<http://henrykuttner.bravehost.com/Kuttner,%20Henry%20-%20The%20Ego%20Machine.html>
I've not read these online versions - so not sure if they're complete
(but they appear to be).
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Matt Hughes
> Any good stories that feature beer?
Most Jack Vance picaresque tales feature inns where good ales are
served. And, usually, sausages.
Matt Hughes
http://www.archonate.com
Mike Schilling
> On 22 Dec 2009 15:49:00 -0500, wds...@panix.com (William December
> Starr) wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <9qp0j591plqm01lob...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>
>>> "That Doggone Vnorpt," by Nathan Archer.
>>
>> Oh, *that* hack. You should be ashamed to even admit that you
>> read him.
>>
>> (Joke! It's a joke, okay?)
>
> Hey, Nathan and I went to college together.
And he used to copy off your homework.
Mike Schilling
> On 22 Dec, 03:42, veritas <veritas....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Any good stories that feature beer?
>
> Most Jack Vance picaresque tales feature inns where good ales are
> served. And, usually, sausages.
But once, shockingly, only barley water.
Robbie
wrote:
Seconded (or thirded I guess). Thanks!
William Hyde
wrote:
Occasionally there's an in where only something like a puree of locust
is served.
"Then this must be our fare".
William Hyde
Linda Taber
> On Dec 21, 10:42 pm, veritas <veritas....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Any good stories that feature beer?
>
>
> and Illyan go fishing and bring a few bottles of local, home brewed
> beer with them. Miles gets a little tipsy and almost falls overboard.
>
> Chris
Does Maple Mead count?
Doug
Matt Hughes
> Occasionally there's an in where only something like a puree of locust
> is served.
I understand locusts taste rather like shrimp, so a locust puree would
be something like a prawn chowder. Not completely unappetizing.
I think I'll make it a practice to eat more unconventional foods. I
used to, when I was young. Beaver tail was quite nice. Bear was like
gamey beef. Got fed up with moose twice a day, though.
Matt Hughes
http://www.archonate.com
John Pelan
Old Peculiar"...
Hmmm... Locust puree... Would be awfully easy to capture the
ingredients here in NM, might just have to give it a try. ;-)
Bill Snyder
Having belatedly checked those out, I can report that "The Ego
Machine" is *not* a Gallagher story.
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netcat
> In article <bc706058-93d2-4b70...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> veritas <verit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Any good stories that feature beer?
> >
> >Big fire at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin today...
>
> serialized in Astounding as "A Bicycle Built for Brew").
>
> There's Powers's _The Drawing of the Dark_, but I don't consider
> that a good story. YMMV.
Simak's _The Goblin Reservation_.
rgds,
netcat
Mike Stone
the frightfully unimaginative title _The Makeshift Rocket_
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Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>I don't know that one, but when I saw the subject line I was
>reminded of the sequence in de Camp and Pratt's _Incomplete
>Enchanter_ ...
>He then recites (extempore!) a Spencerian stanza
>ending, "Change then! for being water, ye cannot be worse," and
>rapidly changes the sugar lumps around to represent CH3CH2OH.
>Poof, alakazam, he generates a large amount of peach brandy.
^r XXXXXXXX^ alakohol
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