Wait, wasn't it 2012?
Joseph Nebus
Comic strip _Sally Forth_ tosses off a number of SFnal references,
although more often to movies and TV shows than to books. Today gets a
solid sf.written connection:
http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComick.mpl?date=20091228&name=Sally_Forth
Though didn't the actual starrificationing of Jupiter happen more
around 2012, to the extent that a date can possibly be assigned to the
events in any of the 2001 series?
(I know Clarke just left little inconsistencies in because he felt
like he should update things to reflect changed real-world knowledge and
it was too much work to get all the little points like what planet they
went to consistent. But I can't help thinking he also found it pretty
amusing that it's so hard to definitively say what parts of _2001_ took
place in 2001, or of _2010_ in 2010.)
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Joseph Nebus
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Greg Goss
>
> Comic strip _Sally Forth_ tosses off a number of SFnal references,
>although more often to movies and TV shows than to books. Today gets a
>solid sf.written connection:
>
>http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComick.mpl?date=20091228&name=Sally_Forth
>
> Though didn't the actual starrificationing of Jupiter happen more
>around 2012, to the extent that a date can possibly be assigned to the
>events in any of the 2001 series?
>
> (I know Clarke just left little inconsistencies in because he felt
>like he should update things to reflect changed real-world knowledge and
>it was too much work to get all the little points like what planet they
>went to consistent. But I can't help thinking he also found it pretty
>amusing that it's so hard to definitively say what parts of _2001_ took
>place in 2001, or of _2010_ in 2010.)
A solid written connection? They stellated Jupiter in the movie, too.
How is this more closely tied to the book than to the movie?
(Clarke apologized in the forward to 2010 that he was setting the
sequel around Jupiter despite the Saturn references in the first book
because so many of his readers remembered the movie better than the
book.)
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Joseph Nebus
>nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
>>
>> Comic strip _Sally Forth_ tosses off a number of SFnal references,
>>although more often to movies and TV shows than to books. Today gets a
>>solid sf.written connection:
>>
>>http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComick.mpl?date=20091228&name=Sally_Forth
>A solid written connection? They stellated Jupiter in the movie, too.
>How is this more closely tied to the book than to the movie?
Yeah, but there wouldn't be the movie without the book, so
there's no contorted reasoning (or excusing with 'but enough of us like
the subject anyway') needed to justify having it in rasf.written. We've
got jurisdiction.
As it happens, the comic strip _Nest Heads_ gets in references
today to 2010, 2001, and 1984, but is also explicit in their being the
movies:
http://comics.com/nest_heads/2009-12-30/
I have sometimes meant to compile a list of all the books that
I have which are named for years. Without checking I know that I've
got 1066, 1215, 1453, 1587, 1689, 1776, 1831, 1945, 1968, 2001, 2010,
2061, and 3001 covered. (I'm a little surprised not to have any Civil
War years covered, but I have got _April 1865_ around somewhere.)
>(Clarke apologized in the forward to 2010 that he was setting the
>sequel around Jupiter despite the Saturn references in the first book
>because so many of his readers remembered the movie better than the
>book.)
As I get more mature, which is the way I'd rather put it, I'm
more appreciative of Clarke's approach to the continuity in this set,
accepting the big stuff as happening and letting the details like just
what planet the setting is float around in a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey
thing. But he did, generally, have the skill to get away with it too.
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Joseph Nebus
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> writes:
>
>> nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
>
>>> Comic strip _Sally Forth_ tosses off a number of SFnal references,
>>> although more often to movies and TV shows than to books. Today gets a
>>> solid sf.written connection:
>>>
>>> http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComick.mpl?date=20091228&name=Sally_Forth
>
>> A solid written connection? They stellated Jupiter in the movie, too.
>> How is this more closely tied to the book than to the movie?
>
> Yeah, but there wouldn't be the movie without the book,
Wasn't this the other way around? The first movie and first book were
released simultaneously (and written in parallel, starting from "The
Sentinel" short story), but without the movie (and the success of Star
Wars making SF seriously profitable, and Star Trek showing that a
delayed sequel with a following wasn't a bad idea either) there wouldn't
have been a second movie -- and only on contracting for the second movie
was there a second book.
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