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Hatunen

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:44:54 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:56:15 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
cc talk-o...@moderators.isc.or�g <rja.ca...@excite.com>
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>
>Hatunen wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:45:08 -0800 (PST), cryptoguy
>> <treif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 19, 3:42?pm, Warren Oates <warren.oa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <drache-48CA2F.19341718112...@nothing.attdns.com>,
>> >>
>> >> ?erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> >> > "It Happened One Night" ?is far far better than the general run of color
>> >> > comedies.
>> >>
>> >> Certainly.
>> >>
>> >> My Darling Clementine
>> >> Casablanca
>> >> The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
>> >> The Bicycle Thief
>> >> Stagecoach
>> >> The Maltese Falcon
>> >> Kind Hearts and Coronets
>> >>
>> >> ... and so on
>> >>
>> >> (of course, there's always pretentious foolishness like The Last Picture
>> >> Show or The Man Who Wasn't There)
>> >
>> >I wonder how he feels about "Pleasantville", which I thought one of
>> >the best pictures of that year. (and meets ObSF requirements to boot).
>>
>> weelllllll....
>>
>> It's not really a B&W movie....
>
>Have we had _The Wizard of Oz_ ?

That's in color. Even Kansas is in color. A monochrome sort of
yellowish brown, But in color nevertheless.

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cryptoguy

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Nov 21, 2009, 12:53:09 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 20, 9:44 pm, Hatunen <hatu...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:56:15 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie: Fnord:
> cc talk-orig...@moderators.isc.or­g <rja.carne...@excite.com>

As I described else-thread, the Kansas scenes were shot in B&W, but
printed onto color film with a sepiatone tint, evocative of old
photos. When Dorothy approaches the house's door, which she will open
to reveal OZ, that is the first color shot. However, the interior of
the house is lit in a flat yellow-brown, to match (sort of) the
sepiatone Kansas scenes.

Many prints, made after 1939 but before the advent of 'remastering'
and the digital revolutin, use B&W film for the Kansas scenes, without
tinting.

pt

Hatunen

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:21:20 PM11/21/09
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Yeah. I caught that after I posted.

I lived in Kansas for three years in the early 1980s and enjoyed
pointing out to my fellow Kansans that in "Wizard of Oz" Kansas
was appropriately in black and white.

Robert Carnegie

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:19:59 PM11/21/09
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Well, in the book, everything's grey. Hmm. Crops shouldn't be grey?
Maybe I need to check.

<http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz/Chapter_1>

No crops; livestock.

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