YASID: war-induced plague kills all but "supers", plucky girl saves the day
Par
(intelligence, can see into IR, etc. Then the War happens and a plague
kills off all the normals. She travels over the deserted US with a rich
spoiled boy and her pet parrot, and saves the day on a space station
using mystical karate trick taught her by her kindly teacher (who is
also a "super").
/Par
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Par use...@hunter-gatherer.org
Again, thank you for the kind words that we are sure are in your e-mail
but we didn't have the time to confirm by reading it in detail.
Justin Fang
Par <use...@hunter-gatherer.org> wrote:
>Mid 1980's. A girl is born who is a bit better than normal humans
>(intelligence, can see into IR, etc. Then the War happens and a plague
>kills off all the normals. She travels over the deserted US with a rich
>spoiled boy and her pet parrot, and saves the day on a space station
>using mystical karate trick taught her by her kindly teacher (who is
>also a "super").
_Emergence_, David R. Palmer.
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Justin Fang (jus...@panix.com)
Joe Block
> Mid 1980's. A girl is born who is a bit better than normal humans
> (intelligence, can see into IR, etc. Then the War happens and a plague
> kills off all the normals. She travels over the deserted US with a rich
> spoiled boy and her pet parrot, and saves the day on a space station
> using mystical karate trick taught her by her kindly teacher (who is
> also a "super").
>
> /Par
_Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
copy right now to confirm it though.
And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
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Joe Block <j...@apesseekingknowledge.net>
Have GNU, will travel.
GSV Three Minds in a Can
the wonderful person Joe Block <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> said
>In article <slrne9fmvb...@hunter-gatherer.org>,
> Par <use...@hunter-gatherer.org> wrote:
>
>> Mid 1980's. A girl is born who is a bit better than normal humans
>> (intelligence, can see into IR, etc. Then the War happens and a plague
>> kills off all the normals. She travels over the deserted US with a rich
>> spoiled boy and her pet parrot, and saves the day on a space station
>> using mystical karate trick taught her by her kindly teacher (who is
>> also a "super").
>>
>> /Par
>
>_Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
>copy right now to confirm it though.
I can, and it is.
--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Google may be your friend, but groups.google.com posters definitely aren't.
Rich Horton
>Mid 1980's. A girl is born who is a bit better than normal humans
>(intelligence, can see into IR, etc. Then the War happens and a plague
>kills off all the normals. She travels over the deserted US with a rich
>spoiled boy and her pet parrot, and saves the day on a space station
>using mystical karate trick taught her by her kindly teacher (who is
>also a "super").
David Palmer, EMERGENCE
Peter Meilinger
Yep. Most people seem to think Emergence was much better
than his other novel, Threshold, but I think the opposite is true.
I never felt like I was supposed to take Threshold seriously,
but reading Emergence it seemed that Palmer thought he
was writing about a reasonable character instead of a
ridiculously unrealistic uber-hero.
Pete
John H
"Joe Block" <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> wrote in message
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>
> _Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
> copy right now to confirm it though.
>
> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
Am I the only one who don't remember this bit?
john
David Salmansohn
wrote:
Without spoilers, they discover it afer she travels really quickly.
IIRC, Terry (the bird) yells "Wheee!".
--David Salmansohn--
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John H
"David Salmansohn" <nos...@salmansohn.org> wrote in message
news:7mug92lsf22g57hvr...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:21:16 GMT, "John H" <chandin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Joe Block" <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> wrote in message
>>news:jpb-473581.0...@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>>>
>>> _Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
>>> copy right now to confirm it though.
>>>
>>> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
>>
>>Am I the only one who don't remember this bit?
>>
>>john
>>
>
> Without spoilers, they discover it afer she travels really quickly.
> IIRC, Terry (the bird) yells "Wheee!".
Ah, thanks.
If only I still have it around, sure would like to read it and Threshold
again.
john
J Moreno
> Yep. Most people seem to think Emergence was much better
> than his other novel, Threshold, but I think the opposite is true.
> I never felt like I was supposed to take Threshold seriously,
> but reading Emergence it seemed that Palmer thought he
> was writing about a reasonable character instead of a
> ridiculously unrealistic uber-hero.
Yeah. Lots of people say that Emergence was him doing Heinlien, but
Threshold was him doing Smith -- I enoyed it.
--
JM
"Everything is futile." -- Marvin of Borg
Tim Bruening
Justin Fang wrote:
Interesting tidbit: Many of the "AA" hominums (the name of the new human
species Candy is part of) are involved in romantic relationships involving
more than two people! They gain the benefits of marriage laws by forming
corporations whose by-laws incorporate stuff from marriage and probate laws.
Tim Bruening
Joe Block wrote:
Which was repeating everything she thought, even when she was in geosynchonus
orbit!
Tim Bruening
Peter Meilinger wrote:
Candy is a member of a new human species, which is much smarter than normal
humans. Palmer can assign whatever characteristics he likes to such a
species.
Tim Bruening
David Salmansohn wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:21:16 GMT, "John H" <chandin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Joe Block" <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> wrote in message
> >news:jpb-473581.0...@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> >>
> >> _Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
> >> copy right now to confirm it though.
> >>
> >> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
> >
> >Am I the only one who don't remember this bit?
> >
> >john
> >
>
> Without spoilers, they discover it afer she travels really quickly.
> IIRC, Terry (the bird) yells "Wheee!".
Then Terry started spouting all sorts of techno babble.
Tim Bruening
Joe Block wrote:
Which was repeating everything she thought, even when she was in
geosynchonus
orbit!
Tim Bruening
Peter Meilinger wrote:
Candy is a member of a new human species, which is much smarter than
Tim Bruening
David Salmansohn wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:21:16 GMT, "John H" <chandin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Joe Block" <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> wrote in message
> >news:jpb-473581.0...@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> >>
> >> _Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
> >> copy right now to confirm it though.
> >>
> >> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
> >
> >Am I the only one who don't remember this bit?
> >
> >john
> >
>
> Without spoilers, they discover it afer she travels really quickly.
> IIRC, Terry (the bird) yells "Wheee!".
Then Terry started spouting all sorts of techno babble.
Tim Bruening
Joe Block wrote:
Which was repeating everything she thought, even when she was in
geosynchonus orbit!
Tim Bruening
David Salmansohn wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:21:16 GMT, "John H" <chandin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Joe Block" <j...@ApesSeekingKnowledge.net> wrote in message
> >news:jpb-473581.0...@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> >>
> >> _Emergence_, by David R. Palmer, I think. I can't put my hands on my
> >> copy right now to confirm it though.
> >>
> >> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
> >
> >Am I the only one who don't remember this bit?
> >
> >john
> >
>
> Without spoilers, they discover it afer she travels really quickly.
> IIRC, Terry (the bird) yells "Wheee!".
Then Terry started spouting all sorts of techno babble.
Tim Bruening
Peter Meilinger wrote:
Candy is a member of a new human species, which is much smarter than
Tim Bruening
Joe Block wrote:
Which was repeating everything she thought, even when she was in
geosynchonus
orbit!
Tim Bruening
Justin Fang wrote:
Interesting tidbit: Many of the "AA" hominums (the name of the new human
species Candy is part of) are involved in romantic relationships
involving
more than two people! They gain the benefits of marriage laws by
forming
corporations whose by-laws incorporate stuff from marriage and probate
laws.
I hereby suggest that gays form "marriage" corporations too!
Tim Bruening
Justin Fang wrote:
Interesting tidbit: Many of the "AA" hominums (the name of the new human
David Johnston
No corporate agreement can change who your next of kin is. Taxation
law vis a vis corporations and marriages is quite different.
Doug Wickström
<rgo...@telus.net> wrote:
>No corporate agreement can change who your next of kin is.
It _can_, however, override next-of-kin assumptions regarding
your wishes.
--
Doug Wickstr�
Quadibloc
> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
The author can hardly be blamed for this coincidence; I presume that
_Emergence_ predates the Honor Harrington series.
John Savard
Norm D. Plumber
That's correct, _Emergence_ was Palmer's first novel, published in
1984. The Honorverse books began being published in 1992. If there
was idea propagation, the direction of influence seems fairly clear
from the dates.
--
What is trumps what should be, and what we expect, every time.
trag
> Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >Joe Block wrote:
> >> And it turns out she has a telepathic link to her macaw, also.
>
> >The author can hardly be blamed for this coincidence; I presume that
> >_Emergence_ predates the Honor Harrington series.
>
> >John Savard
>
> That's correct, _Emergence_ was Palmer's first novel, published in
> 1984. The Honorverse books began being published in 1992. If there
> was idea propagation, the direction of influence seems fairly clear
> from the dates.
There was a sequel to Emergence recently serialized in Analog.
Mike Schilling
So Palmer got it from the Telzey Amberdon stories.
Norm D. Plumber
Dunno about that, but apparently _Emergence_ was originally a novella
published in Analog in 1981. Analog must like it. I read the 1984
novel, thought it was good, but don't find that world interesting
enough to revisit in a sequel; tastes vary.
Tim Bruening
Norm D. Plumber
I don't think that's a new idea within the real world, iow I think
it's already been done more than once.
In the _Emergence_ world the AA's in multiple marriages still have to
deal with the AB's[1], and that same issue might be equally
problematic for today's gays (not to mention that the "normals"
haven't died off yet).
[1] AA's without the benefit of privileged upbringing, ie potential
evil overlords.
--
"If you don't want to risk the clap, keep your pants zipped." -anon
Leif Roar Moldskred
>
> They gain the benefits of marriage laws
> by forming corporations whose by-laws incorporate stuff from marriage
> and probate laws.
"Well, I _call_ her my ex-wife; I still have a few stocks of her
through my merger with the Henderson family. It's all non-voting
stock, though."
--
Leif Roar Moldskred
I see Deustche Börse is up three points. Maybe it's time to find a
German girlfriend?
David Johnston
In the real world corporations don't let you file joint income tax
returns, can not determine who is next of kin, cannot create a spousal
privilege of communication...