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Howard Brazee

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Apr 29, 2012, 9:36:20 AM4/29/12
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With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
considered a planet in mind - I found the following link interesting:

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to-hate-on-dinosaur-discoveries/

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
Brotosaurus away.

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tphile2

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Apr 29, 2012, 11:54:27 AM4/29/12
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On Apr 29, 10:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> On 4/29/12 9:36 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>
>
>
> > With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
> > considered a planet in mind - I found the following link interesting:
>
> >http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to-ha...
>
>         That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
> Brotosaurus away.
>
> --
>                       Sea Wasp
>                         /^\
>                         ;;;
> Website:http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:http://seawasp.livejournal.com

and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?

Ted Nolan <tednolan>

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Apr 29, 2012, 12:19:32 PM4/29/12
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In article <2eda6eba-a01a-4d17...@p6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
tphile2 <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
>Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?

http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sullypython/Cartoon%20TV/?action=view&current=HydeandGoTweetStill-1-1-2.jpg

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Will in New Haven

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Apr 29, 2012, 2:00:17 PM4/29/12
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That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
all dinosaurs are avian.
If something is true, by the way, no one is going to care what you
want to see.

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JRStern

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Apr 29, 2012, 7:24:25 PM4/29/12
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And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.

J.

Jessie_C

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Apr 29, 2012, 7:46:25 PM4/29/12
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In article <2eda6eba-a01a-4d17...@p6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
tph...@cableone.net says...
> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>
http://science.memebase.com/2012/04/10/funny-science-news-experiments-memes-
evolution-is-an-unforgiving-force/

http://science.memebase.com/2012/04/09/funny-science-news-experiments-memes-
what-sort-of-bird-is-that/

Sorry about the line wrap.

Robert Bannister

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Apr 29, 2012, 8:23:47 PM4/29/12
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On 29/04/12 11:39 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> On 4/29/12 9:36 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>>
>>
>> With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
>> considered a planet in mind - I found the following link interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to-hate-on-dinosaur-discoveries/
>>
>>
>
> That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking Brotosaurus
> away.
>

I'll vote for that.

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Larry

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Apr 29, 2012, 8:53:14 PM4/29/12
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In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
JRS...@foobar.invalid says...

> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.

Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.

Joy Beeson

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Apr 29, 2012, 10:43:54 PM4/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

> That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
> Brotosaurus away.

I was annoyed at first, but then I discovered that the critter we
called "Brontosaurus" was a mythical beast that had only some features
in common with Apatosaurus, so we can keep right on referring to
Bronty as a brontosaurus.

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Kay Shapero

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Apr 30, 2012, 4:47:41 AM4/30/12
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In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT), tphile2
> <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> > n Apr 29, 10:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> > seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/29/12 9:36 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
> >> > considered a planet in mind - I found the following link
> >> > interesting:
> >>
> >> > ttp://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to
> >> > -ha...
> >>
> >>         That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them
> >> taking Brotosaurus away.
> >>
> >> --
> >>                       Sea Wasp                         /^\        
> >>                 ;;;
> >> Website:http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:http://seawasp.livej
> >> ournal.com
> >
> > nd how about saying Dinosaurs are birds? ho wants to see a T-Rex
> > looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>
> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>

Hey, since Victoria tried some rattlesnake and announced that it did
sorta taste like (stringy) chicken, and therefore chicken tastes like
rattlesnake; we can assume by extension that dinosaurs tasted like
rattlesnake and if not scaly themselves certainly resemble scalies in
some important aspect.

The trouble with Brontosaurus (thunder lizard) is that the same guy
previously discovered some parts, couldn't fit them with anything, and
called them Apatosaurus (deceptive lizard) in disgust. Then he found
some considerably more identifiable parts and named them Brontosaurus.
Muuuuuch later they turned out to be the same beastie and there's this
rule that the name of a fossil must be the first described one, even if
it's the same guy. Given the way taxonomy skitters around like spilled
mercury, why it has to suddenly make like the laws of the Medes and the
Persians about one extinct lifeform still strikes me as pretty silly.
Just wait until they find a DNA sample, compare it with everything else,
and find out it's related to the iguana...


And frankly I don't care if they ALL were (pseudo?)feathered. Dinosaurs
are Inherantly Cool. :) (And that the lizard-hipped dinos appear to be
a lot more closely related to the birds than the bird-hipped ones is
just plain delightful.)

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Apr 30, 2012, 4:48:42 AM4/30/12
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In article <52vrp7prlpkrlsciq...@4ax.com>,
jbe...@invalid.net.invalid says...
>
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
> > Brotosaurus away.
>
> I was annoyed at first, but then I discovered that the critter we
> called "Brontosaurus" was a mythical beast that had only some features
> in common with Apatosaurus, so we can keep right on referring to
> Bronty as a brontosaurus.

Missed that one. OK, even less of a problem.

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Christian Weisgerber

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Apr 30, 2012, 7:32:55 AM4/30/12
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Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:

> > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>
> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.

Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.

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Paul Ciszek

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Apr 30, 2012, 9:38:07 AM4/30/12
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In article <819636a2-fb5a-4ba7...@e15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>>
>> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
>> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>
>That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
>all dinosaurs are avian.

There have been a some recent articles turning that on its head,
claiming that T Rex and a bunch of other poplular dinosaurs were
feathered.

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Carson Chittom

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Apr 30, 2012, 9:51:34 AM4/30/12
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na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:

> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
>> > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>
>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.

Indeed, I don't think I've had ostrich, but the last time I had emu
(about fifteen years ago), I recall it tasting kind of like beef.

James Silverton

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Apr 30, 2012, 10:22:29 AM4/30/12
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I've had both and, in fact, Whole Foods used to be a reliable source for
ostrich. They are both very low fat *red* meats but they don't seem very
popular these days. At least, I haven't seen them on sale for about a year.

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Nix

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Apr 30, 2012, 11:06:55 AM4/30/12
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On 30 Apr 2012, Paul Ciszek stated:

> In article <819636a2-fb5a-4ba7...@e15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
>>> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>>
>>That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
>>all dinosaurs are avian.
>
> There have been a some recent articles turning that on its head,
> claiming that T Rex and a bunch of other poplular dinosaurs were
> feathered.

I think all the feathered rexes found have been young (should we call
them chicks now?). Thermal considerations would seem to militate against
large adult theropods being completely or heavily feathered (though a
light covering of feathers would be possible, I suppose).

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Gerry Quinn

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Apr 30, 2012, 11:33:20 AM4/30/12
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In article <jnlt97$d7b$1...@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>, na...@mips.inka.de
says...
> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
> > > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
> >
> > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.

Small hoppy things (e.g. frogs and rabbits) tend to taste like chicken
IMO. So dinosaurs probably didn't.

We won't find out until they are reconstructed from their DNA. And
cooked, obviously.

- Gerry Quinn

Brett Dunbar

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Apr 30, 2012, 11:51:30 AM4/30/12
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In message <52vrp7prlpkrlsciq...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> writes
>On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
><sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
>> Brotosaurus away.
>
>I was annoyed at first, but then I discovered that the critter we
>called "Brontosaurus" was a mythical beast that had only some features
>in common with Apatosaurus, so we can keep right on referring to
>Bronty as a brontosaurus.

That is not actually correct.

In 1877 Othniel Charles Marsh described a sauropod juvenile specimen as
Apatosaurus ajax, "deceptive lizard". Marsh gave it this name because he
regarded the chevron bones as similar to those of some mosasaurs
(distantly related giant marine lizards). In 1879 he described a more
complete adult sauropod from the same formation as Brontosaurus
excelsus. In 1903 Elmer Riggs reexamined the fossils and concluded that
while probably a separate species they were the same genus making
Brontosaurus a junior subjective synonym of Apatosaurus.

I think you might be referring to the reconstruction of Apatosaurus with
a Camarasaurus skull, this is an entirely unrelated error in a
mislabelled 1905 reconstruction of A. excelsus in Yale's Peabody Museum
of Natural History. This is despite partial Diplodocus like skulls
having been found one near both the A. ajax type and the other by two A.
excelsus specimens. The error was not fixed until the 1970s.
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It wouldn't be the first time Big Bird was called a big, scary evil
monster. As for Tweety, well, was there ever any doubt he's an
evil, sadistic little bastard?

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Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote in
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At this point, they call taste like rock.

Michael Stemper

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In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> writes:
>On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT), tphile2 <tph...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>On Apr 29, 10:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/29/12 9:36 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:

>>> > With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
>>> > considered a planet in mind - I found the following link interesting:
>>>
>>> >http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to-ha...
>>>
>>>         That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
>>> Brotosaurus away.
>>> Website:http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:http://seawasp.livejournal.com
>>
>>and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
>>Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>
>And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.

ObSFW: "A Statue for Father", by Isaac Asimov. Except, in that story, it
was orders of magnitude better than the best chicken that you ever had.

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David DeLaney

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Apr 30, 2012, 2:15:38 PM4/30/12
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Gerry Quinn <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>na...@mips.inka.de says...
>> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>> > > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>> >
>> > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>
>> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>
>Small hoppy things (e.g. frogs and rabbits) tend to taste like chicken
>IMO. So dinosaurs probably didn't.

...which is to say that small hoppy dinosaurs probably did, and there were a
lot of those too.

>We won't find out until they are reconstructed from their DNA. And
>cooked, obviously.

ObSF: del Rey, _Tunnel Through Time_

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Quadibloc

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Apr 30, 2012, 3:06:37 PM4/30/12
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On Apr 29, 9:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>         That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
> Brotosaurus away.

Perhaps our indignation would be less objectionable if, instead of
being negative about a good thing - a closer approach to the truth -
we transmuted it into annoyance at their not having gotten it right
*originally* instead of being annoyed at genuinely progressive change.

They had giant birds in South America before the ancestors of the
North American Indians came to the continent. So if the dinosaurs were
feathered, they seem like nothing more than giant birds - something
not 65 million years remote in time.

Giant reptiles, on the other hand, including those which aren't
dinosaurs, are strange and exotic.

But then, _those_ still existed back then, and they didn't have
feathers on them. So there's no reason to despair; we'll still have
Plesiosaurus and Dimetrodon and Ankylosaurus. Or maybe Ankylosaurus
was a dinosaur and not a giant turtle...

John Savard

Quadibloc

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On Apr 30, 10:12 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<tausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for Tweety, well, was there ever any doubt he's an
> evil, sadistic little bastard?

What? It's Sylvester who is evil and sadistic! And a cannibal to boot,
since both he and Tweety have the power of speech, and are therefore
people.

John Savard

Quadibloc

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Apr 30, 2012, 3:19:38 PM4/30/12
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What!? They took the Plesiosaur's shell away too! The Jurassic just
isn't what it used to be.

John Savard

Kip Williams

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Apr 30, 2012, 3:50:06 PM4/30/12
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It's not an either/or.


Kip W
rasfw

Kip Williams

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Apr 30, 2012, 3:51:20 PM4/30/12
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Quadibloc wrote:
> What!? They took the Plesiosaur's shell away too! The Jurassic just
> isn't what it used to be.

They paved Paradise, put up a Jurassic parking lot.


Kip W
rasfw

Lynn McGuire

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Apr 30, 2012, 4:12:05 PM4/30/12
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OK, this is a real LOL.

Lynn

Nix

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Apr 30, 2012, 5:58:34 PM4/30/12
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On 30 Apr 2012, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy outgrape:

> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org:
>
>> In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
>> JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>>
>>> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like
>>> chicken.
>>
>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> At this point, they call taste like rock.

Unpleasantly sugary and with a tendency to glue your teeth together?

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Howard Brazee

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Apr 30, 2012, 6:13:51 PM4/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC),
mste...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper) wrote:

>>>Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>>
>>And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>
>ObSFW: "A Statue for Father", by Isaac Asimov. Except, in that story, it
>was orders of magnitude better than the best chicken that you ever had.

So *that's* what happened to them!

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Robert Carnegie

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On Monday, April 30, 2012 9:47:41 AM UTC+1, Kay Shapero wrote:
> And frankly I don't care if they ALL were (pseudo?)feathered.
> Dinosaurs are Inherantly Cool. :)

Er, no I think a leading theory is that they used the
feathers to stay warm.

Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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om:
I certainly won't dispute that Tweety has the better PR flak. And
you're certainly one to believe whatever propaganda you're spoon fed.

You probably thought Yoda was a good guy, too.

Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Nix <nix-ra...@esperi.org.uk> wrote in
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Or very music-y, with lots of base and excessive drums.

JRStern

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I've had a couple of ostrich burgers, and they were quite good -
better than buffalo. Actually, I think Fudruckers carried both
options for some time, back a couple of years ago.

http://www.fuddruckers.com/exotics/

Aha, seems they've dropped big bird and gone with elk and wild boar.
Step right up folks.

J.


Kay Shapero

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forums@vbbgl4>, rja.ca...@excite.com says...
Grin.

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Will in New Haven

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Apr 30, 2012, 7:56:56 PM4/30/12
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On Apr 30, 9:38 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
> In article <819636a2-fb5a-4ba7-bb77-401bce085...@e15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> Will in New Haven  <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
> >> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
>
> >That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
> >all dinosaurs are avian.
>
> There have been a some recent articles turning that on its head,
> claiming that T Rex and a bunch of other poplular dinosaurs were
> feathere

They can be feathered without being avian. I wonder how popular they
would be if they showed up in someone's garden.

--
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Will in New Haven

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On Apr 30, 11:33 am, Gerry Quinn <gerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <jnlt97$d7...@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>, na...@mips.inka.de
> says...
>
> > Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
> > > > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>
> > > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> > Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>
> Small hoppy things (e.g. frogs and rabbits) tend to taste like chicken
> IMO.  So dinosaurs probably didn't.

There were lots of small, hoppy dinosaurs.

--
Will in New Haven


>

Robert Bannister

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On 1/05/12 3:06 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
>> Brotosaurus away.
>
> Perhaps our indignation would be less objectionable if, instead of
> being negative about a good thing - a closer approach to the truth -
> we transmuted it into annoyance at their not having gotten it right
> *originally* instead of being annoyed at genuinely progressive change.
>
> They had giant birds in South America before the ancestors of the
> North American Indians came to the continent. So if the dinosaurs were
> feathered, they seem like nothing more than giant birds - something
> not 65 million years remote in time.

Give a cheer for the Feathered Serpent.


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Howard Brazee

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:13:12 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
>At this point, they call taste like rock.

Or petroleum. I suppose we've eaten petroleum products, although not
to get their flavor.

Howard Brazee

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Will in New Haven
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

>> > > > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>
>> > > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>
>> > Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>>
>> Small hoppy things (e.g. frogs and rabbits) tend to taste like chicken
>> IMO.  So dinosaurs probably didn't.
>
>There were lots of small, hoppy dinosaurs.

Taste like ale?

Larry

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In article <XnsA0455DCAAEB...@69.16.186.7>, taus...@gmail.com
says...
>
> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
> > JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
> >
> >> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like
> >> chicken.
> >
> > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> At this point, they call taste like rock.

There are still plenty of edible dinosaurs flopping around. Squab, anyone?

Robert Carnegie

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On Monday, April 30, 2012 8:06:37 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> They had giant birds in South America before the ancestors of the
> North American Indians came to the continent. So if the dinosaurs were
> feathered, they seem like nothing more than giant birds - something
> not 65 million years remote in time.
>
> Giant reptiles, on the other hand, including those which aren't
> dinosaurs, are strange and exotic.

Giant birds are not? Sinbad the Sailor will be disappointed...

On the other hand, why would we be impressed by the elephant bird
if we aren't particularly impressed by the elephant?

Greg Goss

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Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Apr 29, 9:39 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
><seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>         That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
>> Brotosaurus away.
>
>Perhaps our indignation would be less objectionable if, instead of
>being negative about a good thing - a closer approach to the truth -
>we transmuted it into annoyance at their not having gotten it right
>*originally* instead of being annoyed at genuinely progressive change.
>
>They had giant birds in South America before the ancestors of the
>North American Indians came to the continent. So if the dinosaurs were
>feathered, they seem like nothing more than giant birds - something
>not 65 million years remote in time.

A ten foot ostrich-looking thing is still a long ways from T-Rex.

I've been told that the predatory largish cats out-competed them after
Panama closed, long before humans arrived.
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Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
news:l6hup7dkpukhakv4i...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:13:12 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
> Sissy <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>
>>At this point, they call taste like rock.
>
> Or petroleum. I suppose we've eaten petroleum products,
> although not to get their flavor.
>
Good point. I've had chicken that tastes like gasoline, but never
gasoline tthat tastes like chicken.

Quadibloc

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On Apr 30, 8:05 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> Or petroleum.   I suppose we've eaten petroleum products, although not
> to get their flavor.

Mineral oil does sometimes get used as a laxative...

John Savard

Quadibloc

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On Apr 30, 7:20 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Give a cheer for the Feathered Serpent.

That reminds me of the movie "Q" - about the return of Quetzalcoatl.
But he is so dangerous that his victims have no time to blurt out more
than the first letter of his name...

John Savard

Michael Stemper

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In article <2bb574c5-1c43-4f3d...@h10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>, Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>On Apr 30, 8:05=A0pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

>> Or petroleum. =A0 I suppose we've eaten petroleum products, although not
>> to get their flavor.
>
>Mineral oil does sometimes get used as a laxative...

And the results get posted to Usenet.

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Mark Zenier

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In article <jnm774$vj0$1...@dont-email.me>,
James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
>On 4/30/2012 9:51 AM, Carson Chittom wrote:
>> na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
>>
>>> Larry<lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>>>
>>>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>>
>>> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>>
>> Indeed, I don't think I've had ostrich, but the last time I had emu
>> (about fifteen years ago), I recall it tasting kind of like beef.
>
>I've had both and, in fact, Whole Foods used to be a reliable source for
>ostrich. They are both very low fat *red* meats but they don't seem very
>popular these days. At least, I haven't seen them on sale for about a year.

Most of that business seemed to be selling expensive "breeding stock",
in other words a kind of a Ponzi scheme. I imagine the drought in
Texas reduced the industry quite a bit.

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Jerry Brown

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On Tue, 1 May 2012 10:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
I remember investigating cop David Carradine theorising on the
circumstances of the first victim's death "Maybe his head just got
loose and fell off".

--
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(but probably won't bother)

Robert Bannister

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Ha! They would never know whether he tasted of chicken or not.


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Michael Stemper

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Aren't ostriches primarily from arid regions to begin with?

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: mste...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper)
: Aren't ostriches primarily from arid regions to begin with?

Well, people have *transplanted* ostriches to arid zona.

"This little creep wanted me to give him *sex*!"
"So?"
"For *money*!"
"Ah, well... perhaps if you let him breathe,
he could apologize."
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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mste...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper) wrote in
news:jnp5c5$p1b$2...@dont-email.me:

> In article
> <2bb574c5-1c43-4f3d...@h10g2000pbi.googlegroups.co
> m>, Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>On Apr 30, 8:05=A0pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>
>>> Or petroleum. =A0 I suppose we've eaten petroleum products,
>>> although not to get their flavor.
>>
>>Mineral oil does sometimes get used as a laxative...
>
> And the results get posted to Usenet.
>
Get posted to? Hell, that's what usenet is made of.

Richard R. Hershberger

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...which is why they needed the feathers: because they were cool.

Kip Williams

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Dinosaurs had feathers before it was cool.


Kip W
rasfw

Quadibloc

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On May 2, 9:49 am, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
> : mstem...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper)
Here's the link:

http://www.soulgeek.com/comics/zona/2012/04/28/page-582/

John Savard

Robert Bannister

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On 2/05/12 8:44 PM, Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article<jnp7i...@enews4.newsguy.com>, mze...@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) writes:
>> In article<jnm774$vj0$1...@dont-email.me>, James Silverton<not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/30/2012 9:51 AM, Carson Chittom wrote:
>>>> na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
>>>>> Larry<lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, I don't think I've had ostrich, but the last time I had emu
>>>> (about fifteen years ago), I recall it tasting kind of like beef.
>>>
>>> I've had both and, in fact, Whole Foods used to be a reliable source for
>>> ostrich. They are both very low fat *red* meats but they don't seem very
>>> popular these days. At least, I haven't seen them on sale for about a year.
>>
>> Most of that business seemed to be selling expensive "breeding stock",
>> in other words a kind of a Ponzi scheme. I imagine the drought in
>> Texas reduced the industry quite a bit.
>
> Aren't ostriches primarily from arid regions to begin with?
>

Emus too, but maybe they were both much bigger when it was wetter.

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Michael Stemper

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I never understood CGS, but I thought that ESUs were bigger than EMUs.

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Robert Bannister

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On 4/05/12 2:02 AM, Michael Stemper wrote:
I can't find a sensible meaning for "CGS" and "ESU" appears to be
"Electrical Solutions Ulm" or "European Students' Union". Were you
thinking of emos?

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Quadibloc

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On May 3, 6:30 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> I can't find a sensible meaning for "CGS" and "ESU" appears to be
> "Electrical Solutions Ulm" or "European Students' Union". Were you
> thinking of emos?

CGS would be centimetre-gram-second, as opposed to MKS, or metre-
kilogram-second (which is what SI is based on).

ESU is therefore probably electrostatic units.

John Savard

Quadibloc

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On May 3, 6:30 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Were you
> thinking of emos?

And if ESU is electro-static units, EMU would be electro-magnetic
units.

John Savard

Quadibloc

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May 4, 2012, 5:12:35 PM5/4/12
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And for the exact facts which I was only dimly remembering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_units

John Savard

Robert Bannister

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On 4/05/12 10:49 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On May 3, 6:30 pm, Robert Bannister<robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't find a sensible meaning for "CGS" and "ESU" appears to be
>> "Electrical Solutions Ulm" or "European Students' Union". Were you
>> thinking of emos?
>
> CGS would be centimetre-gram-second, as opposed to MKS, or metre-
> kilogram-second (which is what SI is based on).

But what a strange way of defining a system of measures. It has been
known as the "metric system" in English for such a long time. This
definition does crop up with Google, but is overshadowed by many others
- Canberra Grammar School and California Geological Survey showed up far
more times.
>
> ESU is therefore probably electrostatic units.
>
> John Savard


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Robert Bannister

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That article certainly contains one good phrase: "The term "cgs units"
is ambiguous and therefore to be avoided if possible".


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Wayne Throop

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:: CGS would be centimetre-gram-second, as opposed to MKS, or metre-
:: kilogram-second (which is what SI is based on).

: Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com>
: But what a strange way of defining a system of measures. It has been
: known as the "metric system" in English for such a long time.

Well, as he mentioned, the issue is to pin down the units. "The metric
system" includes both meters and centimeters, kilograms and grams.
And, for that matter, seconds, minutes, hours, etc. (At least, I'm
not familiar with anybody who takes "metric system" to imply use of
kiloseconds/megaseconds/gigaseconds, instead of the base 60 babylonian
stuff).

So, for many technical purposes, it's important to nail the units down
much more specifically than "the metric system". In short, it's not quite
a "system of measures", it's a "set of units", and that's more specific.

Wayne Throop

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May 4, 2012, 6:25:34 PM5/4/12
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: Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com>
: That article certainly contains one good phrase: "The term "cgs units"
: is ambiguous and therefore to be avoided if possible".

Well ya, but that's in the context of gaussian units, where you're talking
about electromagnetism. The phrase "cgs units" is pretty unambiguous
if you're just talking mass, distance, time, and mechanical forces.

Is it weird that nobody uses MGS? I mean, so there's no prefixes
on any of the base units? I suppose it's not that weird, what
with with a cubic meter of water being a million grams, so
derived units of force and such end up a bit wonky.
But it still seems a *bit* weird.

Howard Brazee

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On Fri, 04 May 2012 22:19:03 GMT, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
wrote:

>Well, as he mentioned, the issue is to pin down the units. "The metric
>system" includes both meters and centimeters, kilograms and grams.
>And, for that matter, seconds, minutes, hours, etc. (At least, I'm
>not familiar with anybody who takes "metric system" to imply use of
>kiloseconds/megaseconds/gigaseconds, instead of the base 60 babylonian
>stuff).

The French revolutionary authorities tried to implement base 10 time,
but the people rejected it.

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Robert Bannister

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I sort of see what you mean, especially since centimetres now appear to
be banned or at least not welcomed. In fact, there are a whole lot of
possible units that are either not used or are no longer official: most
of the hekt- words seem to be out apart from "hectare", while plain
"are" is never used it's all a bit weird, but since we don't use any
other measurements, we tend not to think about it much.

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Steve Coltrin

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begin fnord
Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com> writes:

> I sort of see what you mean, especially since centimetres now appear
> to be banned or at least not welcomed. In fact, there are a whole lot
> of possible units that are either not used or are no longer official:
> most of the hekt- words seem to be out apart from "hectare", while
> plain "are" is never used it's all a bit weird, but since we don't use
> any other measurements, we tend not to think about it much.

There seems to be a preference, at least in some circles, for sticking
to powers of a thousand. (And one of our kibozing trolls used to get
really butthurt when someone said 'hectopascals'.)

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Robert Bannister

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On 7/05/12 6:57 AM, Steve Coltrin wrote:
> begin fnord
> Robert Bannister<rob...@bigpond.com> writes:
>
>> I sort of see what you mean, especially since centimetres now appear
>> to be banned or at least not welcomed. In fact, there are a whole lot
>> of possible units that are either not used or are no longer official:
>> most of the hekt- words seem to be out apart from "hectare", while
>> plain "are" is never used it's all a bit weird, but since we don't use
>> any other measurements, we tend not to think about it much.
>
> There seems to be a preference, at least in some circles, for sticking
> to powers of a thousand. (And one of our kibozing trolls used to get
> really butthurt when someone said 'hectopascals'.)
>

Ah, that's the one I forgot. Our weather people used to announce the
pressure in hectopascals, but... oops, correction: they still do:
http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/observations/waall.shtml

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Wayne Throop

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: Steve Coltrin <spco...@omcl.org>
: There seems to be a preference, at least in some circles, for sticking
: to powers of a thousand.

I expect the circles involved derive from a cult that originated among
the (ew ik) engineers, (as I've heard it called "engineering notation")
as opposed to "scientific notation", or at least, as a mantissa-exponent
notation... I assume it carried over to the standard prefix uses
from there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_notation

Robert Bannister

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I'm thought it was builders who started using millimetres in preference
to centimetres over here, but they could easily have been led in that
direction by engineers. It's funny because they tend to stick to
millimetres even when metres would make more sense.

I was talking to a brickie some decades ago in the pub, and somehow we
got onto the fact that I find it hard to estimate heights in metric
units. He looked me up and down and said, "About 1730-35 mill", which is
just about spot on, although I had to work it out on my calculator when
I got home.

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Robert Carnegie

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May 7, 2012, 7:30:46 AM5/7/12
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Reading through to the patent (?!), I read that it applies
to "millivolts, megahertz and the like", so we're probably
looking at electrical engineers, and their measuring tools.

I suppose that if you have to /convert/ scales, it's easier
to notice mistakes if the sizes are in thousands. And a
different kind of engineer, usually, deals in objects sized
in km. Highways, mine shafts, and the larger Wal-Mart stores
come to mind.

On the other hand, the man in the street has a use for cm.

Michael Stemper

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In article <13361...@sheol.org>, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) writes:
>: Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com>

>: That article certainly contains one good phrase: "The term "cgs units"
>: is ambiguous and therefore to be avoided if possible".
>
>Well ya, but that's in the context of gaussian units, where you're talking
>about electromagnetism. The phrase "cgs units" is pretty unambiguous
>if you're just talking mass, distance, time, and mechanical forces.
>
>Is it weird that nobody uses MGS?

Well, a lot of inferior Chinese restaurants used to use it, but some
folks were having allergic reactions.

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Michael Stemper

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In article <a0j2dd...@mid.individual.net>, Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com> writes:
>On 4/05/12 10:49 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On May 3, 6:30 pm, Robert Bannister<robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:

>>> I can't find a sensible meaning for "CGS" and "ESU" appears to be
>>> "Electrical Solutions Ulm" or "European Students' Union". Were you
>>> thinking of emos?
>>
>> CGS would be centimetre-gram-second, as opposed to MKS, or metre-
>> kilogram-second (which is what SI is based on).
>
>But what a strange way of defining a system of measures. It has been
>known as the "metric system" in English for such a long time.

And, in the early 1970s, I learned that "the metric system" was an
umbrella term that covered several systems: SI, mks, cgs ...

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David Dyer-Bennet

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Steve Coltrin <spco...@omcl.org> writes:

> begin fnord
> Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com> writes:
>
>> I sort of see what you mean, especially since centimetres now appear
>> to be banned or at least not welcomed. In fact, there are a whole lot
>> of possible units that are either not used or are no longer official:
>> most of the hekt- words seem to be out apart from "hectare", while
>> plain "are" is never used it's all a bit weird, but since we don't use
>> any other measurements, we tend not to think about it much.
>
> There seems to be a preference, at least in some circles, for sticking
> to powers of a thousand. (And one of our kibozing trolls used to get
> really butthurt when someone said 'hectopascals'.)

HP calculators had "engineering mode" for displaying results -- floating
point, normalized so that the integer part was in the range 1-999 and
the exponent was a multiple of three. Thus there was a standard
prefix-name for the unit scale.
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On May 5, 6:22 pm, Robert Bannister <robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> [...] In fact, there are a whole lot of
> possible units that are either not used or are no longer official: most
> of the hekt- words seem to be out apart from "hectare", while plain
> "are" is never used it's all a bit weird, but since we don't use any
> other measurements, we tend not to think about it much.

Hectograms (well, ettogrammi) show up in Italian food markets.

Howard Brazee

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On Mon, 7 May 2012 12:34:47 +0000 (UTC), mste...@walkabout.empros.com
(Michael Stemper) wrote:

>>Is it weird that nobody uses MGS?
>
>Well, a lot of inferior Chinese restaurants used to use it, but some
>folks were having allergic reactions.

Stuff tasted better with it.

Christian Weisgerber

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May 7, 2012, 4:38:25 PM5/7/12
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote:

> HP calculators had "engineering mode" for displaying results -- floating
> point, normalized so that the integer part was in the range 1-999 and
> the exponent was a multiple of three.

And my HP-15C is still set to engineering notation.

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Robert Carnegie

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On Monday, May 7, 2012 4:07:46 PM UTC+1, david.sh...@ymail.com wrote:
> Hectograms (well, ettogrammi) show up in Italian food markets.

I'm not sure how widespread, but wine may be sold
in cl (centilitres).

Scott Lurndal

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May 7, 2012, 7:08:09 PM5/7/12
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I remember getting soda (e.g. coca cola) in 33.3 cl cans in germany.

scott

Robert Bannister

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May 7, 2012, 8:22:25 PM5/7/12
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I can remember when it used to be that way too, but the German beer
currently resting in my fridge states "330 ml" - note that it is smaller.


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Michael Stemper

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I believe that I've had Heinekin in 30 cl cans.

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Carson Chittom

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May 8, 2012, 9:45:31 AM5/8/12
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mste...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper) writes:

> In article
> <16977234.2726.1336429509641.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbvx4>,
> Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> writes:
>>On Monday, May 7, 2012 4:07:46 PM UTC+1, david.sh...@ymail.com wrote:
>>> Hectograms (well, ettogrammi) show up in Italian food markets.
>>
>>I'm not sure how widespread, but wine may be sold
>>in cl (centilitres).
>
> I believe that I've had Heinekin in 30 cl cans.

Please accept my sincerest sympathies.

Greg Goss

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May 10, 2012, 1:47:06 PM5/10/12
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Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com> wrote:

>> CGS would be centimetre-gram-second, as opposed to MKS, or metre-
>> kilogram-second (which is what SI is based on).
>
>But what a strange way of defining a system of measures. It has been
>known as the "metric system" in English for such a long time. This
>definition does crop up with Google, but is overshadowed by many others
>- Canberra Grammar School and California Geological Survey showed up far
>more times.

There are three metric systems. The original one was MGS, then they
built out a much more extensive system of units based on the
centimetre instead of the metre. Then for some reason they threw that
one away, and based the next one on the full size metre, but went for
kilogram instead of gran.

Thus you have dynes versus newtons as the basic metric unit of force.
In two different metric systems.
--
I used to own a mind like a steel trap.
Perhaps if I'd specified a brass one, it
wouldn't have rusted like this.

Greg Goss

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May 10, 2012, 1:49:56 PM5/10/12
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On our paris honeymoon in 1999, all consumer drinks were sold in cl
unless they were a litre or more.

Gene Wirchenko

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May 16, 2012, 3:44:32 PM5/16/12
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>On 4/29/12 9:36 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>>
>>
>> With the discussions we have had about whether Pluto should be
>> considered a planet in mind - I found the following link interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/why-is-it-cool-to-hate-on-dinosaur-discoveries/
>>
>
> That's nothing. A lot of us are still annoyed by them taking
>Brotosaurus away.

I like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiQ_s_vM3Nw
That is "Brontosaurus Stomp" by The Piltdown Men (something else that
got taken away).

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Gene Wirchenko

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May 16, 2012, 5:03:07 PM5/16/12
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:13:55 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Will in New Haven
><bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>
>>> > > > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>>
>>> > > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>>
>>> > Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
>>>
>>> Small hoppy things (e.g. frogs and rabbits) tend to taste like chicken
>>> IMO.  So dinosaurs probably didn't.
>>
>>There were lots of small, hoppy dinosaurs.
>
>Taste like ale?

Oh, hell. Another pun thread.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Gene Wirchenko

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May 16, 2012, 5:04:30 PM5/16/12
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:26:25 -0700, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:

>In article <XnsA0455DCAAEB...@69.16.186.7>, taus...@gmail.com
>says...
>>
>> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org:
>>
>> > In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
>> > JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>> >
>> >> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like
>> >> chicken.
>> >
>> > Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>>
>> At this point, they call taste like rock.
>
>There are still plenty of edible dinosaurs flopping around. Squab, anyone?

This is USENET. I will have the squabble, please.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

ppint. at pplay

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May 17, 2012, 8:29:00 AM5/17/12
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- hi; in article, <0p08r7d4b78h7sql3...@4ax.com>,
ge...@ocis.net "Gene Wirchenko" announced:
>
>I like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiQ_s_vM3Nw
>That is "Brontosaurus Stomp" by The Piltdown Men
>(something else that got taken away).

- i've no youtube url to offer but, given its reliability as
a rock/"heavy" dance single for over a decade and a half of
running the decks at parties and discos, you might well enjoy

"brontosaurus" by the move

regal-zonophone rz3026 march 1970 (merkin single: a&m 1197)

- one of the finest stomping singles i've ever heard. [a]

- otoh, i cannot recommend "neanderthal man" by hotlegs...[b]

- love, ppint.
[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]

[a] - on fly lp, "looking on" (hifly 1) (merkin capitol st658),
(cd transfer repertoire rep4692); and probably on some (or all)
of: the best of the move (fly ton 3, rep4686), the best of the
move (music club mccd009), singles a's & b's (rep4665), the very
best of the move (metro metrcd031), movements (westside wesx302)

[b] - even though they became the nucleus of the band, 10cc.
--
"i'm close to the point where i can't
oppress my inner feminist anymore..."
- annushka on #afp, 23:17 +0100 12/5/02 (5/12/02 for merkins)

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:22:48 PM5/17/12
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In article <877gwxx...@spindle.srvr.nix>,
Nix <nix-ra...@esperi.org.uk> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2012, Paul Ciszek stated:
>
> > In article
> > <819636a2-fb5a-4ba7...@e15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> > Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
> >>> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
> >>
> >>That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
> >>all dinosaurs are avian.
> >
> > There have been a some recent articles turning that on its head,
> > claiming that T Rex and a bunch of other poplular dinosaurs were
> > feathered.
>
> I think all the feathered rexes found have been young (should we call
> them chicks now?). Thermal considerations would seem to militate against
> large adult theropods being completely or heavily feathered (though a
> light covering of feathers would be possible, I suppose).

Ah, so birds are neonatonous dinos as humans are neonatonous apes.

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Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:25:27 PM5/17/12
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In article
<28db2ada-4d40-4fab...@w7g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

> On Apr 30, 9:38 am, nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
> > In article
> > <819636a2-fb5a-4ba7-bb77-401bce085...@e15g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
> > Will in New Haven  <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >> and how about saying Dinosaurs are birds?
> > >> Who wants to see a T-Rex looking like Big Bird and Tweety?
> >
> > >That's backwards. They are saying that birds are dinosaurs, not that
> > >all dinosaurs are avian.
> >
> > There have been a some recent articles turning that on its head,
> > claiming that T Rex and a bunch of other poplular dinosaurs were
> > feathere
>
> They can be feathered without being avian. I wonder how popular they
> would be if they showed up in someone's garden.
>
> --
> Will in New Haven

Animal control? There is a T-Rex in my garden! This would be a job for
the military, methinks.

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:26:35 PM5/17/12
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In article <MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org>,
Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:

> In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
> JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>
> > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>
> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.

Lets see what do you call a T-Rex stuffed with cammels, stuffed with
turduckens.

Kip Williams

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May 17, 2012, 12:27:31 PM5/17/12
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Walter Bushell wrote:
> In article<MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org>,
> Larry<lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
>> In article<8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
>> JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>>
>>> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>
>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
> Lets see what do you call a T-Rex stuffed with cammels, stuffed with
> turduckens.

Darwin's Ark?


Kip W
rasfw

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:28:02 PM5/17/12
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In article <jnp7i...@enews4.newsguy.com>,
mze...@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) wrote:

> In article <jnm774$vj0$1...@dont-email.me>,
> James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On 4/30/2012 9:51 AM, Carson Chittom wrote:
> >> na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
> >>
> >>> Larry<lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
> >>>
> >>> Ostrich and emu certainly don't taste like chicken.
> >>
> >> Indeed, I don't think I've had ostrich, but the last time I had emu
> >> (about fifteen years ago), I recall it tasting kind of like beef.
> >
> >I've had both and, in fact, Whole Foods used to be a reliable source for
> >ostrich. They are both very low fat *red* meats but they don't seem very
> >popular these days. At least, I haven't seen them on sale for about a year.
>
> Most of that business seemed to be selling expensive "breeding stock",
> in other words a kind of a Ponzi scheme. I imagine the drought in
> Texas reduced the industry quite a bit.
>
> Mark Zenier mze...@eskimo.com
> Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Ah, a neighbor had a nutria farm in his back yard, many moons ago.
Lost his investment AFAIK.

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:33:58 PM5/17/12
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In article <jo8fh7$kio$3...@dont-email.me>,
mste...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper) wrote:

> In article <13361...@sheol.org>, thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) writes:
> >: Robert Bannister <rob...@bigpond.com>
>
> >: That article certainly contains one good phrase: "The term "cgs units"
> >: is ambiguous and therefore to be avoided if possible".
> >
> >Well ya, but that's in the context of gaussian units, where you're talking
> >about electromagnetism. The phrase "cgs units" is pretty unambiguous
> >if you're just talking mass, distance, time, and mechanical forces.
> >
> >Is it weird that nobody uses MGS?
>
> Well, a lot of inferior Chinese restaurants used to use it, but some
> folks were having allergic reactions.

Nowadays they use MSG, or did you just have too much LDS?

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:35:18 PM5/17/12
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In article
<3d6e6fc2-e076-4490...@g38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Will in New Haven <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

> There were lots of small, hoppy dinosaurs.

But did they have enough malt?

Bill Snyder

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May 17, 2012, 12:35:26 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:26:35 -0400, Walter Bushell
<pr...@panix.com> wrote:

>In article <MPG.2a0781be3...@news.aioe.org>,
> Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <8cjrp7dur3cv2ftoh...@4ax.com>,
>> JRS...@foobar.invalid says...
>>
>> > And the odds increase that after all, they would taste like chicken.
>>
>> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
>
>Lets see what do you call a T-Rex stuffed with cammels, stuffed with
>turduckens.

"Not Hungry?" Or maybe "Sir?"


--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]

Walter Bushell

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May 17, 2012, 12:37:49 PM5/17/12
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In article <l6hup7dkpukhakv4i...@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:13:12 -0700, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
> <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Or turkey. Or duck. Or goose. Not all dinosaurs taste alike.
> >
> >At this point, they call taste like rock.
>
> Or petroleum. I suppose we've eaten petroleum products, although not
> to get their flavor.

What part of "artificial flavor" don't you understand? Last time I had
Good Humor ice cream, I swear it was based on plastic, and so are the
shakes (and you should shake before drinking) at fast food places.
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