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JRStern

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May 12, 2013, 7:27:57 PM5/12/13
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A classic golden age story, but I can't give author or title.

Settlers on a new planet raising crops that are raided by vermin, so
the put out simple traps that work for a while, then those stop
working and they put out more complex traps, then a fence around the
fields, then even that is not enough as the locks are picked (or
something), they conclude the unseen vermin are evolving that quickly,
so they - take down the fence and go out to greem them, or something
like that.

Thanks,
J.

Howard Brazee

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May 12, 2013, 7:56:27 PM5/12/13
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On Sun, 12 May 2013 16:27:57 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
wrote:
The story ends up with something that looks like a man.

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lal_truckee

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May 12, 2013, 8:55:33 PM5/12/13
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On 5/12/13 4:27 PM, JRStern wrote:
> take down the fence and go out to greem them

How very SF.

Does greeming involve energy weapons? ESP? Elimination from the time line?
Golden Age-er here anticipating a Van Vogtian turn.

Ted Nolan <tednolan>

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May 12, 2013, 9:35:22 PM5/12/13
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In article <kmpdf5$lik$1...@dont-email.me>,
This is the race that will greem the sevagram..
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Robert Carnegie

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May 12, 2013, 9:57:03 PM5/12/13
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It's like "groom", but more sexual. Tickle them on the tummy and so forth.
So they're all relaxed and then... Alternatively, it's a typo for "greet"?

Richard Todd

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May 12, 2013, 11:13:06 PM5/12/13
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Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> writes:

> On Sun, 12 May 2013 16:27:57 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>A classic golden age story, but I can't give author or title.
>>
>>Settlers on a new planet raising crops that are raided by vermin, so
>>the put out simple traps that work for a while, then those stop
>>working and they put out more complex traps, then a fence around the
>>fields, then even that is not enough as the locks are picked (or
>>something), they conclude the unseen vermin are evolving that quickly,
>>so they - take down the fence and go out to greem them, or something
>>like that.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>J.
>
> The story ends up with something that looks like a man.

I've read this one, but had forgotten who wrote it, or the title. I had
thought the title was "Omnimal" (the word the scientist on the planet used
for the rapidly-evolving local being), but apparently that wasn't the title,
just a word used in the story, and the story was this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Body_(short_story)

At the end, the scientist convinces the settlers not to attack the man-like
being, for fear of what the local lifeforms will evolve into if they kill off
the man-like beings.

JRStern

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May 12, 2013, 11:25:19 PM5/12/13
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er, must be sunspots on the Internet.

trying again: greet them.

OK, good, everything is back to norbal.

J.

JRStern

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May 12, 2013, 11:33:26 PM5/12/13
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That does seem to be it, thanks.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31815/31815-h/31815-h.htm
STUDENT BODY
By F. L. WALLACE
in Galaxy, March 1953

J.

Howard Brazee

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May 12, 2013, 11:52:32 PM5/12/13
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On Sun, 12 May 2013 22:13:06 -0500, Richard Todd
<rmt...@ichotolot.servalan.com> wrote:

>I've read this one, but had forgotten who wrote it, or the title. I had
>thought the title was "Omnimal" (the word the scientist on the planet used
>for the rapidly-evolving local being), but apparently that wasn't the title,
>just a word used in the story, and the story was this one:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Body_(short_story)
>
>At the end, the scientist convinces the settlers not to attack the man-like
>being, for fear of what the local lifeforms will evolve into if they kill off
>the man-like beings.

I recognize the title now that you mentioned it.

Wayne Throop

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May 13, 2013, 1:58:57 AM5/13/13
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:: take down the fence and go out to greem them

: lal_truckee <lal_t...@yahoo.com>
: How very SF.

Yah, I t'ink iz a symanominym of "emfol" or zumting.


"Dey iz zuper-engineered sqvirrels or zumting."
--- Minsk to Agatha re: the Lakya

Robert Carnegie

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May 13, 2013, 12:04:35 PM5/13/13
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On Monday, 13 May 2013 04:33:26 UTC+1, JRStern wrote:
> That does seem to be it, thanks.
>
> <http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31815/31815-h/31815-h.htm>
> STUDENT BODY
> By F. L. WALLACE
> in Galaxy, March 1953

As a pure technicality and no reproach, how are we defining "the golden age",
this sidereal year? ;-)

Also, are they sure about the Gutenberg thing? I'd figure that memorable =
reprinted = copyright renewed, but I haven't done the rest of the calculation.
And 1953 is just the decade before I was born. As with _Little Fuzzy_,
that /does/ seem too soon, although not quite so. So maybe that's
my own problem.

ISFDB:
Legal Name: Wallace, Floyd L.
Birthplace: Rock Island, Illinois, USA
Birthdate: 16 February 1915
Deathdate: 26 November 2004
And supports 1953 as the first publication of the story.

J. Clarke

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May 13, 2013, 12:38:45 PM5/13/13
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In article <5d7f76f0-3c27-488e...@googlegroups.com>,
rja.ca...@excite.com says...
>
> On Monday, 13 May 2013 04:33:26 UTC+1, JRStern wrote:
> > That does seem to be it, thanks.
> >
> > <http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31815/31815-h/31815-h.htm>
> > STUDENT BODY
> > By F. L. WALLACE
> > in Galaxy, March 1953
>
> As a pure technicality and no reproach, how are we defining "the golden age",
> this sidereal year? ;-)
>
> Also, are they sure about the Gutenberg thing? I'd figure that memorable =
> reprinted = copyright renewed, but I haven't done the rest of the calculation.

There's another part of the equation--author died/got sick/went on
extended holiday/was drafted in year in which copyright law changed,
chaos ensued, copyright was not renewed within the grace period allowed
under the new law, copyright lapsed. In Piper's case, his work started
getting major recognition around 10 years after his death and about the
same time that the copyright law changed--it could be that his executor
did not realize that he had a valuable property until it was too late to
renew the copyright.

Dan Goodman

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May 14, 2013, 4:40:49 PM5/14/13
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On Mon, 13 May 2013 01:35:22 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

> In article <kmpdf5$lik$1...@dont-email.me>, lal_truckee
> <lal_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On 5/12/13 4:27 PM, JRStern wrote:
>>> take down the fence and go out to greem them
>>
>>How very SF.
>>
>>Does greeming involve energy weapons? ESP? Elimination from the time
>>line?
>>Golden Age-er here anticipating a Van Vogtian turn.
>
> This is the race that will greem the sevagram..

You mean the sevagrat.



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Joseph Nebus

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May 22, 2013, 3:28:04 PM5/22/13
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And it just turned up on Dimension X on my preferred old-time
radio channel just today. I raced here to see it was already identified,
though.

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