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erilar

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:32:09 AM2/10/12
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In article <jh24b8$u9p$1...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
wrote:

> On 2012-02-10 03:09:35 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:
>
> > michael <m...@here.com> writes:
> >
> >> Listening to a bunch of foreigners (those from North of the Red River)
> >> argue about what makes real Chili is kind of like hearing a bunch of
> >> Frenchmen argue about how to make a great hotdog. It just doesn't
> >> work. Next thing you know, they're going to be telling us how to
> >> make BBQ.
> >
> > Now you're *really* confusing me. The Red River flows mostly north, up
> > out of Minnesota and eventually into Canada. So *north* of that
> > is...mostly uninhabited.
>
> Those who think he means the Red River of the North are marked even
> more clearly as foreigners, I'd guess.

You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign? We are heartland, even if those
who live on the edges of the continent have strange preconceptions.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


Kurt Busiek

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Feb 10, 2012, 12:58:05 PM2/10/12
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On 2012-02-10 16:32:09 +0000, erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> said:

> In article <jh24b8$u9p$1...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-02-10 03:09:35 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:
>>
>>> michael <m...@here.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Listening to a bunch of foreigners (those from North of the Red River)
>>>> argue about what makes real Chili is kind of like hearing a bunch of
>>>> Frenchmen argue about how to make a great hotdog. It just doesn't
>>>> work. Next thing you know, they're going to be telling us how to
>>>> make BBQ.
>>>
>>> Now you're *really* confusing me. The Red River flows mostly north, up
>>> out of Minnesota and eventually into Canada. So *north* of that
>>> is...mostly uninhabited.
>>
>> Those who think he means the Red River of the North are marked even
>> more clearly as foreigners, I'd guess.
>
> You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign?

You're missing the context.

He's claiming that Oklahomans are foreign, too. I.e., not Texans.

> We are heartland, even if those
> who live on the edges of the continent have strange preconceptions.

You are not heartland Texas, though.

kdb
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David Dyer-Bennet

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:34:38 PM2/10/12
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Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com> writes:

> On 2012-02-10 16:32:09 +0000, erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> said:
>
>> In article <jh24b8$u9p$1...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-02-10 03:09:35 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:
>>>
>>>> michael <m...@here.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Listening to a bunch of foreigners (those from North of the Red River)
>>>>> argue about what makes real Chili is kind of like hearing a bunch of
>>>>> Frenchmen argue about how to make a great hotdog. It just doesn't
>>>>> work. Next thing you know, they're going to be telling us how to
>>>>> make BBQ.
>>>>
>>>> Now you're *really* confusing me. The Red River flows mostly north, up
>>>> out of Minnesota and eventually into Canada. So *north* of that
>>>> is...mostly uninhabited.
>>>
>>> Those who think he means the Red River of the North are marked even
>>> more clearly as foreigners, I'd guess.
>>
>> You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign?
>
> You're missing the context.
>
> He's claiming that Oklahomans are foreign, too. I.e., not Texans.

And I'm sure the Oklahomans are proud of that.

It's a good thing to be proud of. And after all, if you're an
Oklahoman, you don't have much to work with! It must be quite
depressing to come from a state best known for being "ok".
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Kurt Busiek

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:38:46 PM2/10/12
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On 2012-02-10 18:34:38 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:

> Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com> writes:
>
>> On 2012-02-10 16:32:09 +0000, erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> said:
>>
>>> In article <jh24b8$u9p$1...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-02-10 03:09:35 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>> michael <m...@here.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Listening to a bunch of foreigners (those from North of the Red River)
>>>>>> argue about what makes real Chili is kind of like hearing a bunch of
>>>>>> Frenchmen argue about how to make a great hotdog. It just doesn't
>>>>>> work. Next thing you know, they're going to be telling us how to
>>>>>> make BBQ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you're *really* confusing me. The Red River flows mostly north, up
>>>>> out of Minnesota and eventually into Canada. So *north* of that
>>>>> is...mostly uninhabited.
>>>>
>>>> Those who think he means the Red River of the North are marked even
>>>> more clearly as foreigners, I'd guess.
>>>
>>> You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign?
>>
>> You're missing the context.
>>
>> He's claiming that Oklahomans are foreign, too. I.e., not Texans.
>
> And I'm sure the Oklahomans are proud of that.

As are Texans. It's win-win!

Kip Williams

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:45:02 PM2/10/12
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

> It's a good thing to be proud of. And after all, if you're an
> Oklahoman, you don't have much to work with! It must be quite
> depressing to come from a state best known for being "ok".

I used to look forward to the 50-mile drive through the Oklahoma
panhandle on the way from Fort Collins to Bandera. There was a big
billboard that said "IMPEACH EARL WARREN" and I used to snicker at it.


Kip W
rasfw

Kip Williams

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:46:02 PM2/10/12
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erilar wrote:

> You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign? We are heartland, even if those
> who live on the edges of the continent have strange preconceptions.

Midwest? You mean Colorado?

Oh, no, you mean those states that are squarely in the middle of the
eastern third of the Lower 48. Carry on.


Kip W
rasfw

Quadibloc

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:20:14 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 11:34 am, David Dyer-Bennet <d...@dd-b.net> wrote:
> It must be quite
> depressing to come from a state best known for being "ok".

Now, now. Not every state had the honor of having a Rodgers and
Hammerstein Broadway musical made about its founding.

It may not be New York, or California, or even Oregon, but then it
isn't New Jersey either.

John Savard

erilar

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:30:50 PM2/10/12
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In article <jh3lrc$krd$2...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
wrote:

> On 2012-02-10 16:32:09 +0000, erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> said:
>
> > In article <jh24b8$u9p$1...@dont-email.me>, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-02-10 03:09:35 +0000, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> said:
> >>
> >>> michael <m...@here.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Listening to a bunch of foreigners (those from North of the Red River)
> >>>> argue about what makes real Chili is kind of like hearing a bunch of
> >>>> Frenchmen argue about how to make a great hotdog. It just doesn't
> >>>> work. Next thing you know, they're going to be telling us how to
> >>>> make BBQ.
> >>>
> >>> Now you're *really* confusing me. The Red River flows mostly north, up
> >>> out of Minnesota and eventually into Canada. So *north* of that
> >>> is...mostly uninhabited.
> >>
> >> Those who think he means the Red River of the North are marked even
> >> more clearly as foreigners, I'd guess.
> >
> > You claim the Upper Midwest is foreign?
>
> You're missing the context.
>
> He's claiming that Oklahomans are foreign, too. I.e., not Texans.
>
> > We are heartland, even if those
> > who live on the edges of the continent have strange preconceptions.
>
> You are not heartland Texas, though.

I often wonder how well-integrated Texas is with the other mainland
states.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


David DeLaney

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Feb 10, 2012, 8:14:04 PM2/10/12
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Google Maps thinks that NM, WI, and ND have one each. So there's no "Red
River of the East", alas.

Dave "or its little dog either" DeLaney
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Walter Bushell

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Feb 10, 2012, 8:55:24 PM2/10/12
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In article <drache-8F5D0A....@news.eternal-september.org>,
Not to well, except for the People's Republic of Austin.

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