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Wlanca

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Jul 26, 2008, 7:08:58 PM7/26/08
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Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are currently
in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to film a novel that
is widely considered to be one of the bestsellers of the last decade,
namely 'Diaspora' by Australian author greg Egan.

According to critics and movie-industry insiders, the novel, a 'hard-SF
blockbuster', will translate to film very well. "It's got everything a
good movie needs", said a source close to Warner Bros., yesterday. "Love
interest, epic space battles, political treachery, good versus evil,
family values ........ there's no way this one could lose", he added.

Off the record, it is thought that three major directors have already
shown an interest in the project - Farhad Mann, Tim Story and Roger
Christian, the directors of, respectively, 'The Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond
Cyberspace', 'Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer', and
'Battlefield Earth'. A leaked email from a Universal Studios executive
mentions "...... the directors we have opened provisional dialogue with
are considered to be among the industry's finest and should ensure a
highly successful product at the box-office".

Sources are tight-lipped about what actors have been propositioned to
play which parts, but a very good leak has it that Tom Cruise is almost
a dead cert to play 'Yatima', the leading role, with Brad Pitt or
Leonardo DiCaprio playing 'Inoshiro', the disturbed and violent
sidekick. Cameron Diaz, it is rumoured, may very well play 'Renata
Kozuch', the mad scientist whose theories lead to faster-than-light travel.

Filming will begin as soon as all the initial details have been sorted
out. "We're talking about a relatively small budget with this one", a
source has said. "So many movies nowadays require massive amounts of CG
and other special effects. Luckily, this movie doesn't need too much of
that sort of thing. We're going to keep it sweet and simple".

Gene

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Jul 26, 2008, 7:21:06 PM7/26/08
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Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> rote in news:g6gaje$8ud$1...@aioe.org:

> Off the record, it is thought that three major directors have already
> shown an interest in the project - Farhad Mann, Tim Story and Roger
> Christian, the directors of, respectively, 'The Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond
> Cyberspace', 'Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer', and
> 'Battlefield Earth'.

Those are some terrific credits. I think I see the flaw in the claim "there's
no way this can lose".

Andrew Wheeler

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Jul 26, 2008, 7:34:17 PM7/26/08
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Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> wrote:

> Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are currently
> in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to film a novel that
> is widely considered to be one of the bestsellers of the last decade,
> namely 'Diaspora' by Australian author greg Egan.

_Diaspora_ is a fine novel, but bestseller status isn't a matter of
viewpoint, but of actual sales figures. And _Diaspora_ hasn't been a
bestseller anywhere, in the short or long term, that I know of.

That's like saying that Yosemite is widely considered to be over 1000
million square miles, or that Oxygen is widely considered to have an
atomic number of 13.

Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.

--
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Esa Perkio

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Jul 26, 2008, 7:43:46 PM7/26/08
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Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.net> wrote:

: Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,


: and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
: groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.

The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
universes?)


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Wlanca

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Jul 26, 2008, 10:51:57 PM7/26/08
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Andrew Wheeler aspergered-out & said, on 27/07/2008 00:34:

> Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> wrote:
>
>> Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are currently
>> in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to film a novel that
>> is widely considered to be one of the bestsellers of the last decade,
>> namely 'Diaspora' by Australian author greg Egan.
>
> _Diaspora_ is a fine novel, but bestseller status isn't a matter of
> viewpoint, but of actual sales figures. And _Diaspora_ hasn't been a
> bestseller anywhere, in the short or long term, that I know of.
>
You've got to look beyond limited concepts like short & long-term, and
all that. Besides, it *is* a bestseller. It's sold over 12 million
copies. Everyone knows this.

> That's like saying that Yosemite is widely considered to be over 1000
> million square miles, or that Oxygen is widely considered to have an
> atomic number of 13.
>

All those facts are true. Yosemite is huge, and Oxygen's atomic number
is between 12 and 14. Common knowledge, you fool.

> Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
> and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
> groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.
>

This movie must be made. It could be Tom Cruise's finest moment; a
veritable kickstart to his lagging career, like what Travolta done with
'Pulp Fiction'. Damn your eyes, man.

Dan Goodman

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Jul 26, 2008, 11:55:17 PM7/26/08
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Wlanca wrote:

> This movie must be made. It could be Tom Cruise's finest moment; a
> veritable kickstart to his lagging career, like what Travolta done
> with 'Pulp Fiction'. Damn your eyes, man.

I suggest you blabber about this in rec.arts.sf.movies.

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Sean O'Hara

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Jul 27, 2008, 12:28:17 AM7/27/08
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In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Esa Perkio
declared:


The bit about it having a love story and epic space battles was a
dead giveaway.

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Greg Egan

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Jul 27, 2008, 5:44:08 AM7/27/08
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On Jul 27, 7:08 am, Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> wrote:

> Sources are tight-lipped about what actors have been propositioned to
> play which parts, but a very good leak has it that Tom Cruise is almost

> a dead cert to play 'Yatima', the leading role.

Really? I heard Will Smith or Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Jon Schild

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Jul 27, 2008, 10:38:24 AM7/27/08
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Wlanca wrote:
>
> Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are currently
> in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to film a novel that
> is widely considered to be one of the bestsellers of the last decade,
> namely 'Diaspora' by Australian author greg Egan.
>
> According to critics and movie-industry insiders, the novel, a 'hard-SF
> blockbuster', will translate to film very well. "It's got everything a
> good movie needs", said a source close to Warner Bros., yesterday. "Love
> interest, epic space battles, political treachery, good versus evil,
> family values ........ there's no way this one could lose", he added.
>
> Off the record, it is thought that three major directors have already
> shown an interest in the project - Farhad Mann, Tim Story and Roger
> Christian, the directors of, respectively, 'The Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond
> Cyberspace', 'Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer', and
> 'Battlefield Earth'. A leaked email from a Universal Studios executive
> mentions "...... the directors we have opened provisional dialogue with
> are considered to be among the industry's finest and should ensure a
> highly successful product at the box-office".

Anyone else see a problem with "epic space battles" being one thing a
good movie needs? It's a key that special effects would have priority
over details like story and character.

Wlanca

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Jul 27, 2008, 11:22:32 AM7/27/08
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Greg Egan joined the fray & said, on 27/07/2008 10:44:

Me too. Alas, Ejiofor's role as 'Lola' in the classic 'Kinky Boots' was
deemed too "controversial" by many conservative Hollywood executives.
And after such turkeys as 'I, Robot' and (of course) 'Independence Day'
the man Smith's star has fallen too far, so sod him. Yes; Cruise is the
man for the role, all right. His on-screen magnificence will project
pure "Tall, African Flesher"-ness like no-one else could, like that
Laurence Oliver guy *was* Henry Shakespeare's 'Hamlin', or whatever.

Jasper Janssen

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Jul 27, 2008, 1:17:58 PM7/27/08
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:28:17 -0400, Sean O'Hara <sean...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Esa Perkio
>declared:
>> Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> : Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
>> : and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
>> : groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.
>>
>> The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
>> violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
>> universes?)

>The bit about it having a love story and epic space battles was a
>dead giveaway.

Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
everyone knows it, and certainly not in a 'relatively low-budget' movie.
Fuck, just Cruis and DiCaprio alone would put it into megamovie budgets
with their salaries, forget the CG.

Jasper

Sean O'Hara

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Jul 27, 2008, 2:24:44 PM7/27/08
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In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Jasper Janssen
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Cruise probably has too much of an ego to put up with an A-list
co-star unless she's his love interest, but DiCaprio's done it
several times -- Gangs of New York, The Departed, and The Aviator,
and the upcoming Shutter Island.

However, at this point he's already set to star as Nolan Bushnell in
Atari, Teddy Roosevelt in The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt, and Kaneda
in Akira, so it's unlikely he has any time.

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have to admit, I'm proud to admit -- that this was enough to make me
skeptical to start off with. Call me old-fashioned if you will; say
I have a nasty mind if you like.
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W. Citoan

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Jul 27, 2008, 3:28:08 PM7/27/08
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Jasper Janssen wrote:
>
> Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
> everyone knows it,

Huh? Ocean's 10 (Clooney, Damon, Garcia, Pitt, Roberts) comes to mind
right of the top of my head. I'm sure there are others as well.

- W. Citoan
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Dimensional Traveler

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Jul 27, 2008, 4:25:30 PM7/27/08
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Well, if they're going to put Tom Cruise in it, one certainly hopes so. So
far its just sounding like another Scientology crapfest.

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David M. Palmer

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Jul 27, 2008, 5:15:10 PM7/27/08
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In article <bbbp845bqkn70ebhr...@4ax.com>, Jasper Janssen
<jasper....@gmail.com> wrote:

They've worked a deal where the stars are willing to work for scale
plus net points, and in exchange they will be allowed to reprise the
roles in the stage show. (Or in 'Diaspora On Ice!!!' if the
negotiations with Brian Boitano pan out.)

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Quadibloc

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Jul 27, 2008, 5:54:46 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 27, 1:28 pm, "W. Citoan" <wcit...@NOSPAM-yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jasper Janssen wrote:
>
> > Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
> > everyone knows it,
>
> Huh? Ocean's 10 (Clooney, Damon, Garcia, Pitt, Roberts) comes to mind
> right of the top of my head. I'm sure there are others as well.

The original Casino Royale would be another example. But movies like
that are special, and a film based on a hard-SF novel is not likely to
be that kind of movie.

John Savard

Quadibloc

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Jul 27, 2008, 5:57:38 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 26, 5:21 pm, Gene <g...@chewbacca.org> wrote:
> Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> rote innews:g6gaje$8ud$1...@aioe.org:

Had the original post not been a parody - for reasons pointed out in
another post - I would say that Universal's track record is much less
suited to a serious movie being done right than that of Warner
Brothers.

John Savard

Quadibloc

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Jul 27, 2008, 6:02:21 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 27, 8:38 am, Jon Schild <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
> Wlanca wrote:

> > According to critics and movie-industry insiders, the novel, a 'hard-SF
> > blockbuster', will translate to film very well. "It's got everything a
> > good movie needs", said a source close to Warner Bros., yesterday. "Love
> > interest, epic space battles, political treachery, good versus evil,
> > family values ........ there's no way this one could lose", he added.

> Anyone else see a problem with "epic space battles" being one thing a


> good movie needs? It's a key that special effects would have priority
> over details like story and character.

Not only that, but the description sounds very much like that of a
certain movie from 20th-Century Fox. Which, I presume, Greg Egan's
novel does not much resemble.

I'm surprised the studios aren't optioning Honor Harrington, Kris
Longknife, or Kylara Vatta.

John Savard

Jeff Dege

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Jul 27, 2008, 6:28:48 PM7/27/08
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:08:58 +0100, Wlanca wrote:

> Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are currently
> in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to film a novel that
> is widely considered to be one of the bestsellers of the last decade,
> namely 'Diaspora' by Australian author greg Egan.

??? I read a lot of SF, and I've never bothered to read that.

What I'm waiting for is a Hollywood version of a _real_ SF classic:

The Menace From Earth

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Dimensional Traveler

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Jul 27, 2008, 8:19:09 PM7/27/08
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They probably already have bought the movie rights to those but that doesn't
mean they'll ever actually do any work on making such a movie.

Sean O'Hara

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Jul 27, 2008, 8:38:45 PM7/27/08
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In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful W. Citoan declared:

> Jasper Janssen wrote:
>> Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
>> everyone knows it,
>
> Huh? Ocean's 10 (Clooney, Damon, Garcia, Pitt, Roberts) comes to mind
> right of the top of my head. I'm sure there are others as well.
>

Surely you mean Ocean's 11 with Frankie, Dino, Peter, Sammy, Conte,
and Angie? I mean, the idea of a wooden hack like Clooney starring
in a swinging heist film is too ridiculous to deserve serious thought.

Doctor: Another explosion might bring the roof down on top of our heads.
Ace: Oh, just a *small* one?
-Doctor Who

Sean O'Hara

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Jul 27, 2008, 8:41:32 PM7/27/08
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In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Jeff Dege declared:

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:08:58 +0100, Wlanca wrote:
>>
> What I'm waiting for is a Hollywood version of a _real_ SF classic:
>
> The Menace From Earth
>

Well I hear Spielberg is working on a sequel to War of the Worlds
based upon Garrett Serviss's classic, "Edison's Conquest of Mars."

Bender: Please, he's no different from the rest of you organisms;
shooting DNA at each other make babies. I find it offensive.
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Peter Knutsen

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Jul 28, 2008, 1:57:24 AM7/28/08
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W. Citoan wrote:
> Jasper Janssen wrote:
>> Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
>> everyone knows it,
>
> Huh? Ocean's 10 (Clooney, Damon, Garcia, Pitt, Roberts) comes to mind
> right of the top of my head. I'm sure there are others as well.

"Sneakers". I'm sure someone knowledgeable about movies can mention at least
half a dozen similar movies.

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Joy Beeson

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Jul 28, 2008, 9:20:36 PM7/28/08
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On 26 Jul 2008 23:43:46 GMT, Esa Perkio <epe...@cc.helsinki.fi>
wrote:

> The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
> violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
> universes?)

The best joke was propositioning the actors.

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Well, if you want one that had people who were or had been headliners:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_on_the_Orient_Express_(1974_film)

Anthony Nance

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Jul 29, 2008, 1:14:40 PM7/29/08
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I don't consider myself knowledgeable about movies, but I can think
of a decent number of these, including It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World,
The Magnificent Seven, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Ten Commandments,
The Great Escape, The Dirty Doezn, and The Towering Inferno, to stop
at one too many.

Tony

David DeLaney

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Jul 29, 2008, 10:02:34 AM7/29/08
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And I've just reread Neil Simon's Murder By Death... Sometimes they're
deliberately overcast that way.

Dave "blind butler" DeLaney
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Anthony Nance

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Jul 29, 2008, 1:38:26 PM7/29/08
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David DeLaney <d...@gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote:
> Anthony Nance <na...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>>Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>> W. Citoan wrote:
>>>> Jasper Janssen wrote:
>>>>> Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
>>>>> everyone knows it,
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Ocean's 10 (Clooney, Damon, Garcia, Pitt, Roberts) comes to mind
>>>> right of the top of my head. I'm sure there are others as well.
>>>
>>> "Sneakers". I'm sure someone knowledgeable about movies can mention at least
>>> half a dozen similar movies.
>>
>>I don't consider myself knowledgeable about movies, but I can think
>>of a decent number of these, including It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World,
>>The Magnificent Seven, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Ten Commandments,
>>The Great Escape, The Dirty Doezn, and The Towering Inferno, to stop
>>at one too many.
>
> And I've just reread Neil Simon's Murder By Death... Sometimes they're
> deliberately overcast that way.

That's one of my favorite movies. Surely an ensemble cast, but
I conservatively cast it aside because I didn't think many of the
cast members were considered headlining stars in 1976. Peter Sellers,
yes. David Niven, probably. Alec Guinness (whose very next movie was
some SF thingy) - I don't know. Peter Falk? And I think you get less
star power from there on.

Tony

Sean O'Hara

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Jul 29, 2008, 4:15:19 PM7/29/08
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In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Anthony Nance
declared:

> Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Sneakers". I'm sure someone knowledgeable about movies can mention at least
>> half a dozen similar movies.
>
> I don't consider myself knowledgeable about movies, but I can think
> of a decent number of these, including It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World,
> The Magnificent Seven, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Ten Commandments,
> The Great Escape, The Dirty Doezn, and The Towering Inferno, to stop
> at one too many.

The Great Escape, Dirty Dozen and Magnificent Seven don't count
since they only have all-star casts in retrospect. When M7 came out,
Brynner was the only big name actor -- Wallach was a renowned stage
actor, but his only notable film part up to that point was in Baby
Doll; McQueen starred in one of the umpteen TV Westerns of the time,
but his only notable movie appearances were The Blob and playing
second fiddle to Sinatra in Never So Few; Coburn, Bronson, and
Vaughn were nobodies before they did the film.

McQueen, Bronson, and Coburn had higher statures by the time of The
Great Escape, but they still weren't major stars (except maybe
McQueen); Plesance was a nobody and TGE merely elevated him to
notable character actor; and Garner was in the same position as
McQueen had been in for The Magnificent Seven.

The Dirty Dozen is closer -- Lee Marvin was a rising star after
spending a decade toiling away as a villain in Westerns; Borgnine
was a notable character actor who'd had a successful sitcom; Jim
Brown was famous for his football career; and Charles Bronson had
TGE and TM7 on his resume; but Sutherland, Cassevetes, and Savalas
were still nobodies, while Ryan was a star at the end of his career.

Zapp Brannigan: One day a man has everything. The next day he blows
up a $400 billion space station, and the next day he has nothing. It
makes you think.
Kif: No it doesn't.
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David DeLaney

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Jul 29, 2008, 1:28:21 PM7/29/08
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Elsa Lanchester, Fay Wray (uncredited), and Truman Capote... Nancy Walker.

Dave "whatever became of?" DeLaney

Moriarty

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Jul 29, 2008, 6:41:40 PM7/29/08
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On Jul 30, 3:28 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
> Anthony Nance <na...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >David DeLaney <d...@gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote:
> >> Anthony Nance <na...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >>>I don't consider myself knowledgeable about movies, but I can think
> >>>of a decent number of these, including It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World,
> >>>The Magnificent Seven, The Greatest Show on Earth, The Ten Commandments,
> >>>The Great Escape, The Dirty Doezn, and The Towering Inferno, to stop
> >>>at one too many.
>
> >> And I've just reread Neil Simon's Murder By Death... Sometimes they're
> >> deliberately overcast that way.
>
> >That's one of my favorite movies.  Surely an ensemble cast, but
> >I conservatively cast it aside because I didn't think many of the
> >cast members were considered headlining stars in 1976.  Peter Sellers,
> >yes.  David Niven, probably.  Alec Guinness (whose very next movie was
> >some SF thingy) - I don't know.  Peter Falk?  And I think you get less
> >star power from there on.
>
> Elsa Lanchester, Fay Wray (uncredited), and Truman Capote... Nancy Walker.

What was Fay Wray's uncredited role? Please let it be off-screen
scream...

-Moriarty

David DeLaney

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Jul 29, 2008, 6:44:55 PM7/29/08
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You win a cookie; her archived scream was the doorbell.

Dave

Anthony Nance

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Jul 30, 2008, 8:07:31 AM7/30/08
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David DeLaney <d...@gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote:
> Moriarty <blu...@ivillage.com> wrote:
>>d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>>> Anthony Nance <na...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>>> >That's one of my favorite movies. Surely an ensemble cast, but
>>> >I conservatively cast it aside because I didn't think many of the
>>> >cast members were considered headlining stars in 1976. Peter Sellers,
>>> >yes. David Niven, probably. Alec Guinness (whose very next movie was
>>> >some SF thingy) - I don't know. Peter Falk? And I think you get less
>>> >star power from there on.
>>>
>>> Elsa Lanchester, Fay Wray (uncredited), and Truman Capote... Nancy Walker.
>>
>>What was Fay Wray's uncredited role? Please let it be off-screen scream...
>
> You win a cookie; her archived scream was the doorbell.

I think Nancy Walker's scream was an uncredited snippet of
John Cage's 4'33" as well.

Tony

Anthony Nance

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Sean O'Hara <sean...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's very interesting - thanks.
- Tony

pullo

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The Longest Day?

FWIW: Wiki's take on All Star Casts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Star

In the entertainment sense (all-star cast), it is used to describe the cast
of a movie in which most of the speaking parts, even relatively minor ones,
are played by motion picture stars who are generally associated with leading
or major supporting roles. Despite the term, the phrase has rarely (if ever)
been intended to apply to a film where every cast member is a star.

This practice is generally limited to large-budget, "epic" pictures -
usually war movies or biblical epics. However an outstanding example of the
genre is a western - the original 1962 version of How the West Was Won.

Other films described as having an all-star cast have included:

a.. The Hollywood Revue of 1929 (and similar films) (1929)
b.. Ziegfeld Follies (1946)
c.. Around the World in Eighty Days (1956)
d.. The Longest Day (1962)
e.. The Great Escape (1963)
f.. The V.I.P.s (1963)
g.. The Yellow Rolls-Royce (1964)
h.. The Greatest Story Ever Told (1965)
i.. The Bible: In The Beginning (1966)
j.. It's a mad mad mad mad world (1966)
k.. Casino Royale (1967)
l.. Oh! What a Lovely War (1969)
m.. Battle of Britain (1969)
n.. Murder on the Orient Express (1974)
o.. The Towering Inferno (1974)
p.. A Bridge Too Far (1977)
q.. Glengarry Glen Ross (1992)
r.. True Romance (1993)
s.. Ocean's Eleven (2001)
t.. Ocean's Twelve (2004)
u.. Ocean's Thirteen (2007)
v.. Be Cool (2005)
w.. Bobby (2006)

pullo

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Sorry to double post but I just noticed that while the Clooney et. al.
remake of Ocean's 11 made the list, the original, starring Frank Sinatra
Dean Martin
Sammy Davis Jr. Peter Lawford, is not included.

"pullo" <pull...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Anthony Nance

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pullo <pull...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry to double post but I just noticed that while the Clooney et. al.
> remake of Ocean's 11 made the list, the original, starring Frank Sinatra
> Dean Martin
> Sammy Davis Jr. Peter Lawford, is not included.

True, but I doubt the list was meant to be complete (Midway is
another one missing, for example). Sean mentioned the Sinatra
et al version elsethread, though.

Tony

John M. Gamble

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Jul 30, 2008, 1:58:35 PM7/30/08
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In article <g6gcri$kpb$1...@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>,

Esa Perkio <epe...@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>: Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
>: and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
>: groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.
>
>The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
>violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
>universes?)
>

Although, now having read the entire thread thus far, I still
don't know what movie release is obviously being parodied.

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

William December Starr

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Aug 1, 2008, 2:52:11 PM8/1/08
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In article <g6gaje$8ud$1...@aioe.org>,
Wlanca <wl...@theMovies.com> quoted from somewhere:

> Two major Hollywood studios - Universal and Warner Bros. - are
> currently in an ongoing, litigious battle to win the rights to
> film a novel that is widely considered to be one of the
> bestsellers of the last decade, namely 'Diaspora' by Australian
> author greg Egan.
>

> According to critics and movie-industry insiders, the novel, a
> 'hard-SF blockbuster', will translate to film very well. "It's
> got everything a good movie needs", said a source close to Warner
> Bros., yesterday. "Love interest, epic space battles, political
> treachery, good versus evil, family values ........ there's no way
> this one could lose", he added.
>

> Off the record, it is thought that

the guy being quoted here is on drugs?

-- wds

Jasper Janssen

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:15:10 -0600, "David M. Palmer" <dmpa...@email.com>
wrote:

>In article <bbbp845bqkn70ebhr...@4ax.com>, Jasper Janssen
><jasper....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:28:17 -0400, Sean O'Hara <sean...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful Esa Perkio
>> >declared:
>> >> Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> : Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
>> >> : and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
>> >> : groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.
>> >>
>> >> The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
>> >> violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
>> >> universes?)
>>
>> >The bit about it having a love story and epic space battles was a
>> >dead giveaway.
>>
>> Also 3-4 headlining stars just doesn't happen in the same movie, and
>> everyone knows it, and certainly not in a 'relatively low-budget' movie.
>> Fuck, just Cruis and DiCaprio alone would put it into megamovie budgets
>> with their salaries, forget the CG.
>
>They've worked a deal where the stars are willing to work for scale
>plus net points,

Very funny.

>and in exchange they will be allowed to reprise the
>roles in the stage show. (Or in 'Diaspora On Ice!!!' if the
>negotiations with Brian Boitano pan out.)

Has there ever been a case of serious Hollywood 'Talent' *wanting* to do a
stageshow based on one of their movies?

Jasper

Jasper Janssen

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Aug 2, 2008, 5:22:42 PM8/2/08
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:58:35 +0000 (UTC), jga...@ripco.com (John M.
Gamble) wrote:
>In article <g6gcri$kpb$1...@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>,
>Esa Perkio <epe...@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>>Andrew Wheeler <acwh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>: Oh, and the rest of your post is the purest puffery, off topic to boot,
>>: and designed merely to make it seem like there's some kind of huge
>>: groundswell for this movie, which there isn't. Nice try, though.
>>
>>The original post was an obvious parody, IMHO a good one. (Inoshiro the
>>violent sidekick? No CGI required? Easily filmable with n-dimensional
>>universes?)
>
>Although, now having read the entire thread thus far, I still
>don't know what movie release is obviously being parodied.

Any of them.

Jasper

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