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Peter Knutsen

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Aug 21, 2008, 1:48:43 PM8/21/08
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Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.

Druids in historical fantasy would make the most sense, but
non-historical fantasy is welcome as well.


I tried English Wikipedia, and finally managed to find a list-of-druids,
but the only druid in the "fictional" section was Getafix, the druid
from the Asterix comics. That wasn't very helpful.

There are druids in Bradley's "Mists of Avalon", and there's Taliesin in
Bradshaw's "Hawk of May" except he's only a bard, not a druid (druids
are also referred to in one of Bradshaw's historicals, but they never
appear on-screen). I can't really recall any others at all...

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David DeLaney

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:57:59 AM8/21/08
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Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
>hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
>exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.
...

>There are druids in Bradley's "Mists of Avalon", and there's Taliesin in
>Bradshaw's "Hawk of May" except he's only a bard, not a druid (druids
>are also referred to in one of Bradshaw's historicals, but they never
>appear on-screen). I can't really recall any others at all...

Are you counting the ones ... I'm sure they're there, though I don't remember
them precisely ... in Patricia Kennealy(-Morrison)'s series?

David Farland has druidish wizards...

Dave

Cece

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:11:45 PM8/21/08
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Are there Druids in Anderson's King of Ys series?

What about the second book of the Centurion series by Damion Hunter
(real name Amanda Cockrell), Barbarian Princess?

Dorothy J Heydt

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:39:11 PM8/21/08
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In article <48adaa7c$0$90264$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>,

There's Balasius in Mary Stewart's _The Crystal Cave._ A real
creep.

Dorothy J. Heydt
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Johnny Tindalos

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:46:37 PM8/21/08
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Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote in news:48adaa7c$0$90264
$1472...@news.sunsite.dk:

There might be some in Robert Holdstock's Celtica series (well, there are
various Celts in it...) but I haven't finished the third volume (which
had *lots* of Celts, I think) and I can't recall whether there are any
actual druids in the series; I'm afraid it wasn't as good as it often
gave the impression that it could have been.

Andrew Plotkin

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Aug 21, 2008, 5:38:41 PM8/21/08
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Here, Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
> Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
> hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
> exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.

A druid wanders by in John M. Ford's _Growing Up Weightless_. Also
_Web of Angels_.

--Z

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Garrett Wollman

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Aug 21, 2008, 6:46:36 PM8/21/08
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In article <48adaa7c$0$90264$1472...@news.sunsite.dk>,
Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;

Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me
correctly.

-GAWollman

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David DeLaney

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Aug 21, 2008, 5:54:00 PM8/21/08
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Garrett Wollman <wol...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;
>
>Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me correctly.

Oh, oh, and a much more recent series, ... hang on, lemme read through
part of my booklist ...

<time passes; Dave starts reading backwards>

Okay, by Mark del Franco, two books so far: unshapely things, unquiet dreams
- Connor Grey is a magically-crippled druid who's investigating Stuff, and
there's entire organizations of druids nearby, and they're not typical D&D
druids _or_ the oldstyle Celtic 'sacrifice them when needed and the gods will
sort things out' druids either.

(You know you have Too Many Books when you can get an idea of where to start
looking in your booklist by visualizing approximately _where_ in Waldenbooks
you generally see the book in question.)

Dave

PS: I need more Holt.
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Elaine Thompson

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Aug 21, 2008, 9:27:41 PM8/21/08
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I'm pretty sure there's one in John Myers Myers _Moon's Fire-Eating
Daughter_. And I know there's one in the same author's vaguely
historical novel _Harp and Blade_. (He's sort of why the story
happens, IIRC.)


GG Kay's YSABEL has one.

There ought to be one in Mildred Downey Broxon's _Too Long a
Sacrifice_ as well as in Jo Walton's _Prize in the Game_ but I don't
remember any actually being in either of those.

Any retelling of the Deirdre story should have at least one druid.


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Gene

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Aug 21, 2008, 9:28:21 PM8/21/08
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d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) rote in
news:slrngas3q...@gatekeeper.vic.com:

> Garrett Wollman <wol...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>>Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;
>>
>>Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me correctly.
>
> Oh, oh, and a much more recent series, ... hang on, lemme read through

* part of my booklist ...

OK, now where are the Druish princesses in written fantasy?

mimus

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Aug 21, 2008, 9:39:00 PM8/21/08
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They feature as part of the various societies in Vance's "Lyonesse"
trilogy, _Suldrun's Garden_, _The Green Pearl_ and _Madouc_.

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satisfactory weapon than high feelings and improper conduct.

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Howard Brazee

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Aug 21, 2008, 10:22:00 PM8/21/08
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I remember a novel where Queen Victoria is a Druid queen. I'm not
thinking of its name.

Gene

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Aug 21, 2008, 10:39:44 PM8/21/08
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Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> rote in
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> I remember a novel where Queen Victoria is a Druid queen. I'm not
> thinking of its name.

And proceeded to give birth to five Druish princesses. Good job.


Bill Snyder

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Aug 21, 2008, 10:54:42 PM8/21/08
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If she's romantically involved with Doctor Watson, that would be
Esther Friesner's _Druid's Blood_.

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Lawrence Watt-Evans

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:01:38 PM8/21/08
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:22:00 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:

>I remember a novel where Queen Victoria is a Druid queen. I'm not
>thinking of its name.

_Druid's Blood_, by Esther M. Friesner.

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BP

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:39:27 PM8/21/08
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:48:43 +0200, Peter Knutsen
<pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
>hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
>exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.
>
>Druids in historical fantasy would make the most sense, but
>non-historical fantasy is welcome as well.


One or more books of Katherine Kurtz's "Adept" series featured druids
as the bad guys.

BP

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Aug 22, 2008, 5:26:59 AM8/22/08
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On 21 Aug, 19:48, Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
> Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
> hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
> exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.
>

Some druids feature in Pratchett's _The Light Fantastic_ . Also the
character Imp y Celyn from _Soul Music_ has a druidic/celtic-like
background.

Cheers,
Nigel.

dul...@yahoo.com

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Aug 22, 2008, 2:23:01 PM8/22/08
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Try the _Tros of Samothrace_ series by Talbot Mundy if you can find
them. His ideas about the druids
are coloured by his Blavatskyian beliefes, but they certainly aren't
tree-huggers.

T.

William George Ferguson

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Aug 22, 2008, 4:55:27 PM8/22/08
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Since nobody has mentioned it yet, druids figure (not all that favorably)
in Evangeline Walton's Prince of Annwn.

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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
(Bene Gesserit)

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Aug 22, 2008, 7:35:40 PM8/22/08
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:39:00 -0400, mimus <tinmi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:48:43 +0200, Peter Knutsen wrote:
>
>> Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
>> hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
>> exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.
>>
>> Druids in historical fantasy would make the most sense, but
>> non-historical fantasy is welcome as well.
>>
>>
>> I tried English Wikipedia, and finally managed to find a list-of-druids,
>> but the only druid in the "fictional" section was Getafix, the druid
>> from the Asterix comics. That wasn't very helpful.
>>
>> There are druids in Bradley's "Mists of Avalon", and there's Taliesin in
>> Bradshaw's "Hawk of May" except he's only a bard, not a druid (druids
>> are also referred to in one of Bradshaw's historicals, but they never
>> appear on-screen). I can't really recall any others at all...
>
>They feature as part of the various societies in Vance's "Lyonesse"
>trilogy, _Suldrun's Garden_, _The Green Pearl_ and _Madouc_.

Only barely, I don't recall them ever coming "on-screen" as it were.

Cheers - Jaimie
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Scott Lurndal

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Aug 25, 2008, 3:59:51 PM8/25/08
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dul...@yahoo.com writes:

There are also druids in IIRC Stewart's _The Hollow Hills_ (and perhaps
the _Last Enchantment_).

scott

Moriarty

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Aug 25, 2008, 6:29:21 PM8/25/08
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"The Way of Wyrd" (subtitled "Tales of an Anglo-Saxon Sorcerer") by
Brian Bates about a Christian monk/priest who undergoes druidic
initiation rites c400AD. It certainly fits what you're looking for.

My copy was published in 1983 and according to bookfinder it was
republished in 2005.

-Moriarty

Moriarty

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Aug 25, 2008, 7:11:02 PM8/25/08
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Oops. Except for the 'Celtic' part obviously.

-Moriarty

Vampyre

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Aug 26, 2008, 3:24:49 AM8/26/08
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On Aug 22, 3:48 am, Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure Merlin was portrayed as a druid
in Bernard Cornwell's Excalibur series.
Also, I think there was a tiny bit of druid action in the Videssos
Cycle.

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