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Walter Bushell

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Jul 4, 2009, 4:52:17 PM7/4/09
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Mike Ash <mi...@mikeash.com> wrote:

> Meanwhile, economists can't even figure out something as simple as how
> to optimally price the software that I sell, much less come to some kind
> of agreement (or admit the inadequacy of their field!) when it comes to
> pressing issues like how to get out of this recession, what kind of tax
> regime is the best, how much government spending should occur in each
> area, etc.

What makes you think there is a way out of this recession?

Mike Ash

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Jul 4, 2009, 8:47:22 PM7/4/09
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In article <1j27314.2awsx3kvsqjwN%pr...@panix.com>,
pr...@panix.com (Walter Bushell) wrote:

1) What makes you think I think that?

2) The alternative is that this recession continues literally until the
end of time. This seems unlikely.

3) You're replying to a post that's over 4 months old. Why?

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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:37:25 PM7/4/09
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All the prior recessions ended, there's no reason to believe this one
won't and every reason to believe it will.

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Sean O'Hara

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Jul 5, 2009, 9:43:23 AM7/5/09
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In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
Spoor) declared:

> Walter Bushell wrote:
>>
>> What makes you think there is a way out of this recession?
>
> All the prior recessions ended,

When did the Japanese recession end?

> there's no reason to believe this
> one won't and every reason to believe it will.
>

You haven't heard the normalcy theory, have you? That's the idea
that the economy of the last couple decades has been artificially
inflated by cheap and easy credit, and what we're going through now
is a return to normal. Even once the recession ends, we'll have
higher unemployment rates and lower growth.


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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Jul 5, 2009, 10:15:13 AM7/5/09
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Sean O'Hara wrote:
> In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
> Spoor) declared:
>> Walter Bushell wrote:
>>>
>>> What makes you think there is a way out of this recession?
>>
>> All the prior recessions ended,
>
> When did the Japanese recession end?

I was referring to our recessions.

>
>> there's no reason to believe this one won't and every reason to
>> believe it will.
>>
>
> You haven't heard the normalcy theory, have you? That's the idea that
> the economy of the last couple decades has been artificially inflated by
> cheap and easy credit, and what we're going through now is a return to
> normal. Even once the recession ends, we'll have higher unemployment
> rates and lower growth.

But you admit (above) that the recession will end.

Mike Ash

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Jul 5, 2009, 11:37:32 AM7/5/09
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In article <7bbp02F...@mid.individual.net>,

Sean O'Hara <sean...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Sea Wasp (Ryk E.
>

> > there's no reason to believe this
> > one won't and every reason to believe it will.
>
> You haven't heard the normalcy theory, have you? That's the idea
> that the economy of the last couple decades has been artificially
> inflated by cheap and easy credit, and what we're going through now
> is a return to normal. Even once the recession ends, we'll have
> higher unemployment rates and lower growth.

Yes, condescendingly agree with him, that's the ticket!

Quadibloc

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:43:32 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 8:15 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>         But you admit (above) that the recession will end.

We haven't returned, since 1968, to the kind of low unemployment rates
that existed prior to 1968.

Of course, the recession might end, since a recession is identified as
so many consecutive quarters of decreased output, so if the economy
performs badly, but gets slightly better, that would be enough to say
that it ended.

The boom of the 1950s and 1960s, and the boom of the 1920s, followed
world wars. Today, we have nuclear weapons, so a major world war
wouldn't leave much of an economy left. Of course, new scientific
discoveries can increase production as well, but things like food and
housing depend on relatively mature technologies.

We aren't moving, at this time, quickly towards space colonization to
harness vast new resources that way.

John Savard

Tim Bruening

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Jul 11, 2009, 1:59:20 AM7/11/09
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Quadibloc wrote:

Do you favor such a policy?

nemo

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Jul 12, 2009, 6:14:23 AM7/12/09
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:4A582A37...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
It'd give a hell of a lot of unemployed people jobs - but so would building
more low-cost community housing - and I think Gordelpus Brown has finally
realised this.

http://www.defendcouncilhousing.org.uk/dch/

Found this too. It's off-topic but nice . . .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8146393.stm

Boomer

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Jul 12, 2009, 3:23:06 PM7/12/09
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This looks like spam. I quit reading this group when this "Ending the
recession OT" topic replicated like a virus.

nemo

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Jul 12, 2009, 3:39:56 PM7/12/09
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"Boomer" <boome...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This looks like spam. I quit reading this group when this "Ending the
> recession OT" topic replicated like a virus.

So you're booing some other group now?


Greg Goss

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Jul 12, 2009, 7:09:53 PM7/12/09
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Boomer <boome...@gmail.com> wrote:

>This looks like spam. I quit reading this group when this "Ending the
>recession OT" topic replicated like a virus.

It should be easy to killfile on "OT". For google groups, I think you
can get some kind of add-in that acts like a killfile.
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Boomer

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Jul 13, 2009, 3:32:38 AM7/13/09
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On Jul 12, 7:09 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

Now THAT is a valuable bit of info, and valuable info is what I come
here for. Will 'killfile' get rid of these recession topics, and if so
then how can I do this?

Tim Bruening

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Jul 13, 2009, 4:30:11 AM7/13/09
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Boomer wrote:

Killfile the word "recession".

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Greg Goss

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Jul 13, 2009, 10:45:45 AM7/13/09
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Boomer <boome...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not a google groups user, so all I can help with is "there is an
answer". It might require using firefox and some add-ins. Either
way, knowing that "there is an answer" is useful.

I use a non-web-based usenet reader program, where killfiles are
designed in from the beginning.

With a killfile, you specify a formula based on elements of the author
or title or article length or sother features of the article and the
program arranges things so that you never see the articles with the
features you don't want to see. Like a title containing the word
"recession".

Greg Goss

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Jul 13, 2009, 10:46:43 AM7/13/09
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Tim Bruening <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>
>
>Boomer wrote:
>
>> On Jul 12, 7:09 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> > Boomer <boomert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >This looks like spam. I quit reading this group when this "Ending the
>> > >recession OT" topic replicated like a virus.
>> >
>> > It should be easy to killfile on "OT". For google groups, I think you
>> > can get some kind of add-in that acts like a killfile.
>>

>> Now THAT is a valuable bit of info, and valuable info is what I come
>> here for. Will 'killfile' get rid of these recession topics, and if so
>> then how can I do this?
>
>Killfile the word "recession".

He's on Google Groups. Someone who actually knows how, will have to
show him how to do that. It's not as simple as with a specialized
program.

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nemo

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Jul 19, 2009, 7:41:03 PM7/19/09
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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OK. Depression.
>


Tim Bruening

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Jul 20, 2009, 3:29:12 AM7/20/09
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Greg Goss wrote:

Or just killfile "OT".

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