Re: Why Isn't Socialism Dead?
Greg Goss
>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>On Dec 15, 8:02�am, cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I actually picked murder because it is one of the best reported
>>> crimes, and there is very little debate over what is and is not
>>> murder.
>>
>>> The US murder rate is 2.5-3x that of Britain. It was substantially
>>> higher than Britain's even before Britain restricted firearms
>>> ownership.
>>
>>> Any idea why?
>>
>>Well, I know that the murder rate in Canada was vastly lower than it
>>is now back in 1962,
>
>Of course one would have to be a right-wing moron to ignore the fact
>that Canada's population was half of today's population.
"rate"
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Ray Fischer
cryptoguy
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
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> >rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>>On Dec 15, 8:02 am, cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I actually picked murder because it is one of the best reported
> >>>> crimes, and there is very little debate over what is and is not
> >>>> murder.
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> >>>> The US murder rate is 2.5-3x that of Britain. It was substantially
> >>>> higher than Britain's even before Britain restricted firearms
> >>>> ownership.
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> >>>> Any idea why?
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> >>>Well, I know that the murder rate in Canada was vastly lower than it
> >>>is now back in 1962,
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> >>Of course one would have to be a right-wing moron to ignore the fact
> >>that Canada's population was half of today's population.
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> >"rate"
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> Murder rates correlate with population density.
Nonsense.
Population density, people/sq mile
US: 83
Holland: 1034
Canada: 9
Murder rate per 100,000
US 5.8
Holland 0.91
Canada 1.83
pt
Ray Fischer
You must be quite the asshole to think that you can get away with
that obvious dishonesty. Why did you think that you could try and
compare completely different countries? Why didn't you compare
rural and urban crimes rates within the same country?
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Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
cryptoguy
When Quadibloc cited Canada, you didn't have a problem with it. Why
now?
I guess you find it uncomfortable to be faced with actual facts.
pt
Ray Fischer
You tried to disporve my statement with a dishonest comparison.
Now you're trying another dishonest comparison.
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Ray Fischer
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cryptoguy
> cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 20, 6:05 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 20, 4:51 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >> Murder rates correlate with population density.
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> >> >Nonsense.
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> >> >Population density, people/sq mile
> >> >US: 83
> >> >Holland: 1034
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> >> You must be quite the asshole to think that you can get away with
> >> that obvious dishonesty. Why did you think that you could try and
> >> compare completely different countries? Why didn't you compare
> >> rural and urban crimes rates within the same country?
>
> >When Quadibloc cited Canada, you didn't have a problem with it.
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> You tried to disporve my statement with a dishonest comparison.
> Now you're trying another dishonest comparison.
Citing your very own response to a similar issue is dishonest?
Wow, just wow.
BTW, Holland is *much* more urbanized than the US. With over 12x the
US population density, it could hardly be otherwise. Yet somehow they
manage to have 1/6 our murder rate.
So, even using your moved goalposts, you fail.
pt
gort.klaatu....@gmail.com
"Don't confuse me with facts!!"
Ray Fischer
>On Dec 21, 2:15�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> cryptoguy �<treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 20, 6:05�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> cryptoguy �<treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Dec 20, 4:51�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> >> Murder rates correlate with population density.
>>
>> >> >Nonsense.
>>
>> >> >Population density, people/sq mile
>> >> >US: 83
>> >> >Holland: 1034
>>
>> >> You must be quite the asshole to think that you can get away with
>> >> that obvious dishonesty. �Why did you think that you could try and
>> >> compare completely different countries? �Why didn't you compare
>> >> rural and urban crimes rates within the same country?
>>
>> >When Quadibloc cited Canada, you didn't have a problem with it.
>>
>> You tried to disporve my statement with a dishonest comparison.
>> Now you're trying another dishonest comparison.
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>Citing your very own response to a similar issue is dishonest?
And now you're lying. There isn't a "similar issue".
>BTW, Holland is *much* more urbanized than the US.
It's a completely different culture with different laws, you stupid
moron. That means you cannot compare it with the US.
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Ray Fischer
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