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Declare by Tim Powers...2nd try SPOILERS

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Endymion9

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:15:37 PM11/23/09
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I took many people's advise. I had gotten to about page 250 before giving
up and skimming the rest of the book, only really reading the last 50 pages.
Went back and read from 200 on to the end.

I now raise by rating from 2 1/2 out of 5 stars to 3 1/2 out of 5 stars.

I enjoyed some of the sequences I had missed.

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I had missed the actual death of the djinn on Ararat. Missed the appearance
of Mishka in the USSR and her later appearances.

But I still have the same problem. Lots of wonderful elements. Djinn.
Magic thistles. Science trying to figure out how to kill the Djinn. But I
found the spy story so overwhelmed everything else that the sense of wonder
and magic that I so enjoyed in Stress of Her Regard and in The Anubis Gates
is missing. The magic is almost an afterthought here to the spy story.

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Louann Miller

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:56:46 PM11/24/09
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"Endymion9" <endym...@comcast.net> wrote in news:69Sdnc3qN-
NU3JbWnZ2dn...@giganews.com:

> The magic is almost an afterthought here to the spy story.

Have you read Stross' "The Atrocity Archive" and/or its sequel "The
Jennifer Morgue?" Similar plot points (Stross's friends told him on no
account to read Declare while he was reading the first one) but a very
different approach. Even less High Fantasy sensawunda, I must admit.

Endymion9

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:24:11 PM11/24/09
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"Louann Miller" <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, I've read neither.

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Marcus L. Rowland

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:18:27 AM11/29/09
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In message <PI2dnXZjUIu25JHW...@giganews.com>, Endymion9
<endym...@comcast.net> writes

>"Louann Miller" <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:MZ-dnR_Yz-XzsZHW...@giganews.com...
>> "Endymion9" <endym...@comcast.net> wrote in news:69Sdnc3qN-
>> NU3JbWnZ2dn...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> The magic is almost an afterthought here to the spy story.
>>
>> Have you read Stross' "The Atrocity Archive" and/or its sequel "The
>> Jennifer Morgue?" Similar plot points (Stross's friends told him on no
>> account to read Declare while he was reading the first one) but a very
>> different approach. Even less High Fantasy sensawunda, I must admit.
>
>
>
>No, I've read neither.

You really should - they're basically about the branch of British
Intelligence tasked with keeping Entities from Beyond Space and Time out
of our world, which is a bit difficult because computing science has a
nasty habit of straying in the direction of equations that crack the
dimensional barriers. The horror side of things is based on the Cthulhu
Mythos, the spy side parodies various novelists - the first book uses
Len Deighton as its model, the second Fleming, and the third (in
preparation) Anthony Price.
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William December Starr

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Dec 1, 2009, 4:54:29 PM12/1/09
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In article <OPaGuNFj...@00.d0.59.f5.d0.2a>,
"Marcus L. Rowland" <forgotte...@ntlworld.com> said:

[ re Charlie Stross' Laundry novels ]

> The horror side of things is based on the Cthulhu Mythos, the spy
> side parodies various novelists - the first book uses Len Deighton
> as its model, the second Fleming, and the third (in preparation)
> Anthony Price.

Except -- the second (THE JENNIFER MORGUE) was very openly built
upon the James Bond _movies_, and effectively not at all on the
content or style of Fleming's actual works.

-- wds

Endymion9

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Dec 2, 2009, 9:02:19 PM12/2/09
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"Marcus L. Rowland" <forgotte...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In message <PI2dnXZjUIu25JHW...@giganews.com>, Endymion9
> <endym...@comcast.net> writes
>>"Louann Miller" <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:MZ-dnR_Yz-XzsZHW...@giganews.com...
>>> "Endymion9" <endym...@comcast.net> wrote in news:69Sdnc3qN-
>>> NU3JbWnZ2dn...@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> The magic is almost an afterthought here to the spy story.
>>>
>>> Have you read Stross' "The Atrocity Archive" and/or its sequel "The
>>> Jennifer Morgue?" Similar plot points (Stross's friends told him on no
>>> account to read Declare while he was reading the first one) but a very
>>> different approach. Even less High Fantasy sensawunda, I must admit.
>>
>>
>>
>>No, I've read neither.
>
> You really should - they're basically about the branch of British
> Intelligence tasked with keeping Entities from Beyond Space and Time out
> of our world, which is a bit difficult because computing science has a
> nasty habit of straying in the direction of equations that crack the
> dimensional barriers. The horror side of things is based on the Cthulhu
> Mythos, the spy side parodies various novelists - the first book uses Len
> Deighton as its model, the second Fleming, and the third (in preparation)
> Anthony Price.
> --


Thanks for the recs!

Marcus L. Rowland

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:04:17 PM12/1/09
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In message <hf43al$5tr$1...@panix2.panix.com>, William December Starr
<wds...@panix.com> writes
Sorry, you're right, of course. This is my brain not being quite in
gear...
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