L.A. Signing Report-My Maunderings and Brain Freezes
Pamela Basham
signing, self-indulgent personal impressions and Q/A. For those of you
just interested in facts, RJ's answers are at the bottom.
NOTE: I've only read about half the book, so please use Spoiler
Protection in any replies. Only one of my questions pertained
particularly to new information in _POD_, and it may be a non-issue by
the end of the book, so sorry if it's already been talked about.
As a member of the "great lurker hordes," per Aaron Bergman's NY Signing
Report, I'm here to assert our existence. I kept trying to ferret out
members of the 'froup by asking pointed questions like, "So... how *did*
you find out about this signing?" and throwing out random bits of
'froupness such as information about the NY Signing. But no one one
around us bit. I kept looking for Tony Z., Julie Kangas or Han Cho
(sorry if I mangled the spelling), but either my memory's going and I
didn't recognize them after 2-1/2 years (post-aCOS DFS) or I didn't see
them. The line went up the block to the corner, but I'd guess that it
was a considerably smaller crowd than in NYC.
At any rate, after getting stuck at Sta. Monica Blvd. and the 405 Fwy
and wishing desperately for a gateway we could drive through, we (my
husband, Kevin, and I) arrived at Flights of Fantasy at 4:30 and there
were a couple dozen people in line ahead of us. As it was my first
Jordan signing and I was too manic to stand still, I ended up in the
store spending money. As I signed my life away to the credit company
for a copy of _Legends_, RJ arrived at the back of the store. I found
it extremely gratifying to find out that even store owners get nervous
about such things at RJ arriving at their back door while they're
finishing up a sale.
Back outside, in line, the store personnel announced that RJ would be
signing only WOT books, and no personalizations, please. _Legends_, for
the purposes of the signing, was considered WOT. We were not, however,
obliged to buy _POD_ there, or to include it as one of the two books
signed.
There seemed to be a number of people there who weren't actual fans,
serving as ambulatory book holders for friends or family. So perhaps
that made RJ a little more tolerant about answering questions from the
people who *are* reading the books. But he seemed genuinely interested
in talking about them, and was very warm and responsive.
Harriet was with him, and I was really pleased to meet her, as well.
She's a lovely, elegant lady. But she sat up suddenly with a startled
look several times during our chat, and the whole effect was somehow
birdlike. I couldn't help but think of Verin in her "pay no attention
to the little brown sister in the corner" mode.
** SPOILERS FOR _POD_ (small)**
Q/A Below
Q/A Below
Q/A Below
1.) Re: Cadsuane's pointed reminiscences about the good ol' days in Far
Madding, I asked, "So can we assume..." and didn't even get to finish
the question before he answered...
A: "Cadsuane is from Far Madding." And followed immediately, with no
prompting, with "and Verin is from Far Madding." <Arched eyebrow> (For
some reason, this last elicited a Startled Moment from Harriet. I was
determined not to get a RAFO, so I didn't pursue this any further. Also
I was nervous and had more questions.)
2.) Re: The Dragon and The Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts
about Ishy's musings)
Q: "Is this soul born in any other age, or only at the advent and
(theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as The
Dragon/TDR?"
A: This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as
the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other ages, but in a non-Dragon
incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age. In the course of this
answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at
Falme--because Hawkwing recognizes this Soul. This didn't really tell
me why he specifically calls him "LTT", but apparently they've been
hangin' together in T'AR and the etiquette there is to call each other
by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)
3.) Re: That Whole Thing About the Horn--Hawkwing v. Moiraine
Q: Hawkwing says they follow the banner and the Dragon. Moiraine says
the Heroes will follow whoever winds the horn. Was Moiraine wrong?
A: <Arch look> Moiraine doesn't know everything. She was speaking the
truth as she knows it. (I took this to imply that Moir was misinformed,
and the conflict resolved, until he continued.) However, she *is*
correct in that whoever sounds the horn "controls the Heroes." [exact
quote] (I started to get confused at this point. Is Moir right or is
she wrong? What's he trying to tell me?)
Q: "Then what happens if the Dragon and the banner are on opposite
sides of the conflict from whoever sounds the horn?"
A: "Then we get a [rift] in the Pattern." [1]
(This elicited a _pronounced_ Startled Moment from Harriet, which I took
at the time to express the same reaction as me--"A *WHAT*?!?"--but which
Kevin told me later he interpreted to be more along the lines of "I
can't believe you're telling them that!" It could, of course, mean
something entirely different.)
At this point, part of my mind was running wild down paths about the
Dark One and potential entrances into the Pattern, while the rest of it
remained stunned, frozen, in absolute denial: "A _WHAT_?!?"
I remain steadfastly in denial about this one. Oh, sure. He *did* say
it, and if it becomes relevant, he'll work it in, no doubt. But I
firmly believe he Made This Up. If the DO was aware of this, it seems
to me that he'd be working a _lot_ harder on making this happen, since
it would seem to represent the equivalent of a serious "crack in the
door to the Pattern." It's so much less work than using up all your
main players (Chosen) in inefficient, conflicting plots and setting up
Rand for "easily escapable situations involving an overly elaborate and
exotic Death." [2]
[1] I'm not certain if this is the exact word he used. It may have
been "schism" or "breach," but it was definitely a word expressing the
concept of a forced opening/rupture. Sorry. It was lost in the
momentary brain freeze.
[2] Moridin, of course. He's overly elaborate and exotic even *before*
he puts on his silk coats.
Still stunned, I didn't notice that the hordes behind us were breathing
hard and looking like they might begin a stampede, but RJ then very
politely asked us to move on.
All in all, in complete abandonment of any kind of L.A. Kewl, I was
completely thrilled to meet Jim and Harriet.
Wishing everybody at the rest of the signings lots of fun and frivolity
and an utter absence of RAFO's.
Thanks to everyone for the info from the other two signings.
-Pam Basham
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Billboard: "Welcome to Far Madding--Birthplace of the Purple Ajah."
Tony Zbaraschuk
Pamela Basham <pba...@surgery.medsch.ucla.edu> wrote:
>I kept looking for Tony Z., Julie Kangas or Han Cho
>(sorry if I mangled the spelling), but either my memory's going and I
>didn't recognize them after 2-1/2 years (post-aCOS DFS) or I didn't see
>them.
I didn't make it, unfortunately. Guess I'll just have to get tPoD
signed when the next one comes out.
Tony Z
--
Over the altar, flame of anatomized fire,
the High Prince stood, gyre in burning gyre;
day level before him, night massed behind;
the Table ascended; the glories intertwined -- Charles Williams
Michael Steeves
Well, Chad's in Japan and not following the group that much, so it
should be OK to do some on topic stuff for a bit-- he tends to get
kinda disturbed when I do post on topic....
Displaying a firm grasp of the obvious,
pba...@surgery.medsch.ucla.edu wrote:
} A little of this, a little of that. Some general stuff about the
} signing, self-indulgent personal impressions and Q/A. For those of you
} just interested in facts, RJ's answers are at the bottom.
{ snip }
} 3.) Re: That Whole Thing About the Horn--Hawkwing v. Moiraine
}
} Q: Hawkwing says they follow the banner and the Dragon. Moiraine says
} the Heroes will follow whoever winds the horn. Was Moiraine wrong?
}
} A: <Arch look> Moiraine doesn't know everything. She was speaking the
} truth as she knows it. (I took this to imply that Moir was misinformed,
} and the conflict resolved, until he continued.) However, she *is*
} correct in that whoever sounds the horn "controls the Heroes." [exact
} quote] (I started to get confused at this point. Is Moir right or is
} she wrong? What's he trying to tell me?)
}
} Q: "Then what happens if the Dragon and the banner are on opposite
} sides of the conflict from whoever sounds the horn?"
}
} A: "Then we get a [rift] in the Pattern." [1]
} (This elicited a _pronounced_ Startled Moment from Harriet, which I took
} at the time to express the same reaction as me--"A *WHAT*?!?"--but which
} Kevin told me later he interpreted to be more along the lines of "I
} can't believe you're telling them that!" It could, of course, mean
} something entirely different.)
I suspect that the use of the Horn is a two-part deal, where you must
have the Horn *and* the Banner to get it to function properly. This
allows you to guard against Joe Peasant getting the Horn, blowing it,
and getting a bunch of legendary heroes to do his bidding. When the
Horn and the Banner are on opposite sides of the conflict would make
it sorta a "division by zero" effect, and due to the nature of the
Heroes of the Horn causing the Pattern to undergo too much stress.
-darkelf
--
Mike Steeves (mste...@tiac.net) -- http://www.tiac.net/users/msteeves
"Just another empty gesture with an empty glass.
Just another comic actor behind a tragic mask." -Marillion
rajesh...@my-dejanews.com
mste...@tiac.net (Michael Steeves) wrote:
> Displaying a firm grasp of the obvious,
> pba...@surgery.medsch.ucla.edu wrote:
> } 3.) Re: That Whole Thing About the Horn--Hawkwing v. Moiraine
> }
> } Q: Hawkwing says they follow the banner and the Dragon. Moiraine says
> } the Heroes will follow whoever winds the horn. Was Moiraine wrong?
> }
> } A: <Arch look> Moiraine doesn't know everything. She was speaking the
> } truth as she knows it. (I took this to imply that Moir was misinformed,
> } and the conflict resolved, until he continued.) However, she *is*
> } correct in that whoever sounds the horn "controls the Heroes." [exact
> } quote] (I started to get confused at this point. Is Moir right or is
> } she wrong? What's he trying to tell me?)
> }
> } Q: "Then what happens if the Dragon and the banner are on opposite
> } sides of the conflict from whoever sounds the horn?"
> }
> } A: "Then we get a [rift] in the Pattern." [1]
> I suspect that the use of the Horn is a two-part deal, where you must
> have the Horn *and* the Banner to get it to function properly. This
> allows you to guard against Joe Peasant getting the Horn, blowing it,
> and getting a bunch of legendary heroes to do his bidding. When the
> Horn and the Banner are on opposite sides of the conflict would make
> it sorta a "division by zero" effect, and due to the nature of the
> Heroes of the Horn causing the Pattern to undergo too much stress.
I'm minded of the blurb about the Pattern, the Age Lace, and taveren in the
TWOT Guide. IIRC, when the Patern gets disturbed, it throws up taveren to fix
the problem. The greater the drift, the stronger the taveren, the more
momentous the events of the time, etc. All this to set the Wheel to a new
and presumably more agreeable weave.
Now we have three taveren, all very strong, and the strongest is also the
Dragon Reborn. Plus, nominally, they hold the HOV. The Pattern must be
completely out of kilter for it to throw up such figures, and the spectacular
events that have occurred in these times bear this out, too.
Conversely, this may also mean that the DO really, really believes he now has
his best chance. And the Wheel knows it.
--
Rajesh
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