Dayton Signing Report: Some Silver, Some Dross
Michael Martin
My report is not as exhaustive as Matthew Hunter's--I didn't take notes.
From his report, however, it seems that our two signings were quite similar,
at least as for as what Jordan said.
I had several questions prepared, and, surprisingly, had all but one
answered. Of course, only two of those questions really impact plot and
stuff, so...
My first question: "Was the Aes Sedai who initiated the Pact of Rhuidean
from the Age of Legends?" (From TSR).
Jordan: (Pause)"No." (Pause)"No, she was not from the Age of Legends."
My reason for asking had to do with the Oath Rod theory about agelessness
and such.
Next two questions were essentially the same, just about different
characters: Had he always known the size and importance of the role of Fain
and Cadsuane?
Answer: Yes.
He went on to repeat what he has said before--knowing the end, knowing all
the major events, yadda yadda. However, what he did said that was new (at
least for me) was that the _order_ of events was _not_ set, and that he
allowed some fluidity for them. He made a remark about a cousin of his (who
is an engineer) who came over and saw all the notes and work and asked why
RJ hadn't created something called "critical flow charts" or some such. RJ
replied that the nature of the story was too complex for such linear
breakdown.
He also said the that the idea for the chapter icons was his wife's. They
sat down and decided (roughly) what they ought to look like, and hired an
artist to do them.
I asked if we would see Isam/Luc again. "RAFO."
RJ was very personable and seemed to genuinely enjoy the interaction with
the fans. I was disappointed, however, by how few questions there
were--most people simply stood there silently while he signed. I was also
surprised by how few people seemed to know about the newsgroup, the FAQ, and
the Compleat Index.
There were a number of people there who were only partway through the series
(although I guess we _all_ are only partway through the series!) and many
had not yet read the book.
Like Matthew Hunter (see his post), I was surprised by the candor of RJ's
remarks regarding Sweet's covers. At least we know he is just as
exasperated by them as we are. If only Michael Whelan and Jordan had been
able to work a deal out--man. Talk about poster-worthy and collectible art.
OK. I have to work now. I'll try to respond to any questions or gripes
about the report.
Michael Martin
"I never walk into the light unless I know who turned the switch."
--Dime Store Prophets
Scott Cantor
>
>Next two questions were essentially the same, just about different
>characters: Had he always known the size and importance of the role of Fain
>and Cadsuane?
>
>Answer: Yes.
He also mentioned the fact that Fain is essentially his wildcard, a character
that is outside the structure of the work and can therefore act
totally unpredictably.
>He went on to repeat what he has said before--knowing the end, knowing all
>the major events, yadda yadda. However, what he did said that was new (at
>least for me) was that the _order_ of events was _not_ set, and that he
>allowed some fluidity for them. He made a remark about a cousin of his (who
>is an engineer) who came over and saw all the notes and work and asked why
>RJ hadn't created something called "critical flow charts" or some such. RJ
>replied that the nature of the story was too complex for such linear
>breakdown.
Critical paths, actually. The idea is to identify what absolutely has to
happen before a set of outcomes can occur so that you can plan accordingly. I
had a vision of him inputting his plot into Microsoft Project.
When I reached the signing table, I asked him if he had a better idea now how
many novels there would be than he might have had previously, knowing it was a
lame question, but he answered it politely. He said he knew there would be at
least three more, and that he generally finds himself with twice as much
planned for a novel as he can pull off in 700 pages, which happened with the
new one. This suggested to me that 5-6 more books would not be surprising.
I didn't stay too long, but I had a good time, and just wish he had stopped in
Columbus as well.
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Jason Atkinson
<Michael...@DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
>RJ was very personable and seemed to genuinely enjoy the interaction with
>the fans. I was disappointed, however, by how few questions there
>were--most people simply stood there silently while he signed.
If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
Dorothy Johnston
How about someone asking him if Verin did something to Morgase 20-odd
years ago that concealed her true channelling ability? Ever since LOC,
where we learned that Verin was the one who helped Morgase on her one
attempt to touch the True Source, I've been suspecting that Morgase is
more powerful than anyone realizes. I've been more suspicious ever since
reading about Verin's little compulsion trick.
al...@my-dejanews.com
"Michael Martin" <Michael...@DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
<snip Michael's report>
I wish I would have known you were there cause I was too. I throughly
enjoyed it. I got my pic taken, got a couple of books signed, and I seemed
to be the only one who really drove a long ways. My one person road trip
from Indy to Dayton was fun. I also asked RJ the age old question: If you
love your wife so much and place her on this pedistal you seem to do, why are
all the women in WoT pains in the butt? Answer: (and this is
paraphrasing)They aren't. I was raised in a family of very strong women. I
was taught that if a woman was other than strong, they were boring. Someone
who wasn't strong was only good for a few days. A woman that is strong
challenges you. The women in WoT are just strong women. (that is extremely
paraphrasing it, sorry) I thought RJ was great. He was really getting into
it. I really had a great time although I didn't know anyone there.
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cant...@osu.edu (Scott Cantor) wrote:
> In article <OQRFWMWE#GA....@rpc1284.daytonoh.ncr.com>, "Michael Martin"
<snips most of Michael and Scott's stuff>
> When I reached the signing table, I asked him if he had a better idea now how
> many novels there would be than he might have had previously, knowing it was a
> lame question, but he answered it politely. He said he knew there would be at
> least three more, and that he generally finds himself with twice as much
> planned for a novel as he can pull off in 700 pages, which happened with the
> new one. This suggested to me that 5-6 more books would not be surprising.
You must have been really close to me cause I remember him saying that
around the time I was in line *bonks self*
John Bilow
But Morgase really CAN'T channel worth a damn. It's not just that
others can't sense her ability. Remember when the seanchan attacked the
whitecloaks? In a morgase point of view she makes a comment about how weak
she is and how the channeling going on nearby must be powerful in order for
someone as weak as her to be able to sense it.
John Bilow
To reply, replace "fakeaddress.com" with "hotmail.com"
Donal K. Fellows
Dorothy Johnston <LQW...@prodigy.com> wrote:
> How about someone asking him if Verin did something to Morgase 20-odd
> years ago that concealed her true channelling ability? Ever since LOC,
> where we learned that Verin was the one who helped Morgase on her one
> attempt to touch the True Source, I've been suspecting that Morgase is
> more powerful than anyone realizes. I've been more suspicious ever since
> reading about Verin's little compulsion trick.
Just wondering: how well did Verin know Gitara Moroso? If _they_ were
acting together...
Perhaps this should be a question for a signing somewhere (there isn't
likely to be one anywhere near me[*] any time soon, more's a pity...)
Donal.
[ i.e. Within a thousand miles... ]
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Jason Atkinson <jasona...@remove.erols.com> wrote:
>If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
1. When a person is balefired, is his soul destroyed, or does he just
die? In other words, can a balefired person be reborn?
2. When was the Peace of Rhuidean implemented, in relation to events
in the wetlands?
3. Was Moridin created before the gars, after, or around the same
time? (Might be a RAFO, but it would be a nice thing to know.)
-pam
Aaron Bergman
>In article <3656b958...@news.erols.com>,
>Jason Atkinson <jasona...@remove.erols.com> wrote:
>
>>If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
>>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
>
>1. When a person is balefired, is his soul destroyed, or does he just
>die? In other words, can a balefired person be reborn?
>
>2. When was the Peace of Rhuidean implemented, in relation to events
>in the wetlands?
Was the Aes Sedai in Rand's "memories" of Rhuidean's founding
bound to the oathrod.
Aaron
Erica Sadun
:In article <3656b958...@news.erols.com>,
:Jason Atkinson <jasona...@remove.erols.com> wrote:
:
:>If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
:>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
:
:1. When a person is balefired, is his soul destroyed, or does he just
:die? In other words, can a balefired person be reborn?
:
:2. When was the Peace of Rhuidean implemented, in relation to events
:in the wetlands?
:3. Was Moridin created before the gars, after, or around the same
:time? (Might be a RAFO, but it would be a nice thing to know.)
1. Does True Power/Saa abuse cause inflamation (literally) of the eyes?
Of the mouth? Why does Ishy/Moridin seem to melt things/burn them
without thinking?
2. If a Myrdraal channels too much of the TP do the Saa flow across
his forehead?
3. Why haven't we ever seen Ishy & SH in the same scene? [Did SH &
Moghedian, well, you know, did they?. I asked RJ, at the Palo Alto
signing, if Moggy was raped by Shadar Haran in ACOS. His reply was,
"Yes. Amoungst other things." -- Chris Mullins]
4. Why is the GLotD so damned loyal to his forsaken? Can't he find
local talent? Why doesn't he reincarnate generals, etc. who died
during the AoL rather than reusing these thirteen? Why was Lanfear
reincarnated as a platinum blonde?
5. What does the GLotD really want? What happens to the world
if the pattern is destroyed? Why does he want to touch the world?
6 Why does need work in the blight? Could happy barney thoughts work
along the border? Has this happened?
7. Why in Rhuidean memories did the old AS from the age of legends
have ageless faces?
8 Was the whole "Danger Twins Join the Circus" idea in FoH lifted from
a charlie's angels episode? (Title courtesy of Troy Terry)
9. Are there such things as girlyMyrdraals? What is the childhood of a
Myrdraal like?
10. Damane feel n-times the pain their Sul'dams feel. What happens
when a sul'dam linked to a damane dies in battle?
11. Is Tai'Daishar the foal of Daishar?
12. Exactly what are the SeaFolk wedding vows? (Notice I don't ask about
the SeaFolk wedding *customs*)
13. Is the OP accessible throughout all seven ages of the Wheel even
if people aren't born with or aware of the channelling talent?
14. What is the criterium for being reborn? Is everyone unbalefired who
once lived alive or in a holding pattern.
15. Can the Great Lord get his hand on your soul if you walk in the Light
(or even the twilight?) if you're simply dead? (ref: Kari)
16. Are boys always reborn as boys, girls as girls (Halima excepted)?
How is sai(din/dar) tied to the soul? ("Are souls gendered")
17. Why did the Caemlyn darkfriends help out Morgase? Was it orders?
Simple greed? What?
18. Is it important that the whitecloak hanging out with Morgase had
been hanging out earlier with Galad?
19. Given that Mat has been left out of the entire book and is
apparently in peril, what is RJ's view of flashbacks? (Especially
since we missed the great Mat/Couladin showdown)
20. How many months pregnant is Aviendha now? Will her baby be
"really ugly"?
21. Why did Nynaeve suddenly get less powerful. (Elayne with angreal
is about 2 Nynaeves, formerly Nynaeve equalled about a half-dozen
linked AS with a sa'angreal.)
22. Whats the deal with Elayne & the inn & the hot ter'angreal? <grin>
23. How does RJ justify the worse-than-slavery/worse-than-rape of
involuntary warder bonding?
24. The strangeness of saidin/saidar: Intuitively obvious: the bowl, right?
25. Where's the other weather bowl mentioned in the Seanchan seal?
(The bowl of clouds?) (I love this sort of question)
Recall when they used need the first time while looking for the THING
that would help their cause, they went to Tar Valon's store rooms
first, and had to think 'i need something not in TV'. This leads me to
believe that either another bowl is there, or some sort of other
ter'angreal that would help with the political atmosphere at Salidar.
My bet is on a second bowl.
26. Is Alise Harriet? Would RJ allow us to petition him to keep her from
ever sniffing--even once?
27. Is Egwene the Pope of Avignon?
28. Why isn't Sevanna more terminally stupid?
29. Did Aviendha see the Dull Knife in the Rhuidean ter'angreal?
30. Can all warderbonds be used to compel? Even wifebonds? How does
this work?
31. Is Rand/Lews Therin madness a zero sum game?
32. Is Lanfear's old skin now a fashion accessory for the Foxa/eelfs?
33. What the heck is going on with Verin, Cadsuane, Merana, Setalle Anan
& Zarya Alkaese/Garenia?
34. How does the Oath rod work? If you remove all oaths, without
stilling, do you remain ageless?
35. Why did Graendal kill Asmodean?
36. Jordan writes: "Myrddraal's appetites for women were well known".
Is this appetite more likely to include salt & pepper (ala the
Trollocs) or, say, whipped cream?
37. Where are the Duopotamian girls formerly under the tutalage of
Verin and Alanna? (I'd very much like to believe they are being
taught by the Aiel, but doubt it logistically.)
38. Do Min-viewings and Foretellings follow
the body or soul, in the case of reincarnated Forsaken?
39. So what's the deal with Perrin & his immortal soul mentioned
in the Jacket copy?
40. Can Cenn Buie channel? What about other Duopotamians?
We can't wait for Cenn versus the forsaken!
41. What was the extra bit? The kiss? The bonding? The compulsion?
42. Can a (non-black) AS take an oath and then not keep it?
43. The crystal throne, its from Persia, no?
44. Golden Spires: this is Barsine, right? Or are they really from
the Age of Legends? (Barsine, where the Trolloc Wars began...)
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: 1. Does True Power/Saa abuse cause inflamation (literally) of the eyes?
: Of the mouth? Why does Ishy/Moridin seem to melt things/burn them
: without thinking?
Possibly part of the price for TP addiction: you tend to channel at stuff
unconsciously.
: 6 Why does need work in the blight? Could happy barney thoughts work
: along the border? Has this happened?
Huh?
: 9. Are there such things as girlyMyrdraals? What is the childhood of a
: Myrdraal like?
I think RJ said all Myrddraal are male.
: 12. Exactly what are the SeaFolk wedding vows? (Notice I don't ask about
: the SeaFolk wedding *customs*)
:
Explained in tPoD (in part at least).
: 14. What is the criterium for being reborn? Is everyone unbalefired who
: once lived alive or in a holding pattern.
:
I believe RJ said 'yes' to this once. Also, there was speculation in the
past that BF'd souls are still able to be reborn, just not recycled.
: 15. Can the Great Lord get his hand on your soul if you walk in the Light
: (or even the twilight?) if you're simply dead? (ref: Kari)
:
IMO, she was a DF before she died. I also think she killed herself to
prevent the DO from using her to harm Rand.
: 17. Why did the Caemlyn darkfriends help out Morgase? Was it orders?
: Simple greed? What?
:
Most likely orders.
: 18. Is it important that the whitecloak hanging out with Morgase had
: been hanging out earlier with Galad?
:
Who are you talking about? The only WC with Morgase now is Sebban Balwer,
who hasn't even been seen in the same country as Galad.
: 21. Why did Nynaeve suddenly get less powerful. (Elayne with angreal
: is about 2 Nynaeves, formerly Nynaeve equalled about a half-dozen
: linked AS with a sa'angreal.)
My personal theory is that angreals raise your ability to channel relative
to the strength of whoever created the angreal.
: 25. Where's the other weather bowl mentioned in the Seanchan seal?
: (The bowl of clouds?) (I love this sort of question)
: Recall when they used need the first time while looking for the THING
: that would help their cause, they went to Tar Valon's store rooms
: first, and had to think 'i need something not in TV'. This leads me to
: believe that either another bowl is there, or some sort of other
: ter'angreal that would help with the political atmosphere at Salidar.
: My bet is on a second bowl.
This has bugged me ever since LoC. Peeve: we see the scene from Nyn's
POV, so we don't really know what exactly they search parameters are.
According to the dialogue, the first search was for 'something to convince
the Hall to support Rand'. When they ended up in the Tower storeroom,
they (very stupidly IMO) changed their search to 'a ter'angreal not in the
Tower'. We don't know whether the second search still had the 'support
Rand' condition.
: 26. Is Alise Harriet? Would RJ allow us to petition him to keep her from
: ever sniffing--even once?
I'd sign it.
: 33. What the heck is going on with Verin, Cadsuane, Merana, Setalle Anan
: & Zarya Alkaese/Garenia?
Where is the ref for Merana? And it seems the Setalle Anan ref was a red
herring... she was simply in the Tower when Zarya ran away.
: 34. How does the Oath rod work? If you remove all oaths, without
: stilling, do you remain ageless?
We would know the answer if RJ had extended that scene a few more pages...
: 37. Where are the Duopotamian girls formerly under the tutalage of
: Verin and Alanna? (I'd very much like to believe they are being
: taught by the Aiel, but doubt it logistically.)
With Egwene now, though two of their AS escorts are missing.
: 39. So what's the deal with Perrin & his immortal soul mentioned
: in the Jacket copy?
His soul is being endangered by the 'enemy worse than the Seanchan'.
: 40. Can Cenn Buie channel? What about other Duopotamians?
: We can't wait for Cenn versus the forsaken!
<cringe>
: 41. What was the extra bit? The kiss? The bonding? The compulsion?
The kiss. It should be possible to bond and compel without it.
--KG
Andrea Leistra
>If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
Does the meaning of Cyndane's name ("Last Chance") mean that Cyndane
is being given a last chance, or that she represents the last chance
the Shadow has for something?
--
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Ranma Al'Thor
: Erica Sadun <er...@galileo.cudenver.edu> wrote:
: : 15. Can the Great Lord get his hand on your soul if you walk in the Light
: : (or even the twilight?) if you're simply dead? (ref: Kari)
: :
: IMO, she was a DF before she died. I also think she killed herself to
: prevent the DO from using her to harm Rand.
I think Ishy was just bluffing.
: : 25. Where's the other weather bowl mentioned in the Seanchan seal?
: : (The bowl of clouds?) (I love this sort of question)
: : Recall when they used need the first time while looking for the THING
: : that would help their cause, they went to Tar Valon's store rooms
: : first, and had to think 'i need something not in TV'. This leads me to
: : believe that either another bowl is there, or some sort of other
: : ter'angreal that would help with the political atmosphere at Salidar.
: : My bet is on a second bowl.
: This has bugged me ever since LoC. Peeve: we see the scene from Nyn's
: POV, so we don't really know what exactly they search parameters are.
: According to the dialogue, the first search was for 'something to convince
: the Hall to support Rand'. When they ended up in the Tower storeroom,
: they (very stupidly IMO) changed their search to 'a ter'angreal not in the
: Tower'. We don't know whether the second search still had the 'support
: Rand' condition.
I suspect not; I frankly don't see how the Bowl of the Winds is going to
convince the Tower to do diddley squat for Rand, given they used it,
apparently successfully, without Rand or any Ash'aman. Now, it may be
causing some funky side effects, but only the Seanchan and Ash'aman are
even aware of them.
: : 39. So what's the deal with Perrin & his immortal soul mentioned
: : in the Jacket copy?
: His soul is being endangered by the 'enemy worse than the Seanchan'.
He sold it to Elvis in a scene cut from the final version.
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Kevin 'Evinrude' Bartlett
Andrea Leistra <alei...@f1n7.u.arizona.edu> wrote:
>Does the meaning of Cyndane's name ("Last Chance") mean that Cyndane
>is being given a last chance, or that she represents the last chance
>the Shadow has for something?
Well, seeing as both Moggy and Cyndane refer to each other's poor
standing in Moridin's eyes, I would guess the former... As most
people do, I'm sure.
Kevinrude
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Rimrunner
>: This has bugged me ever since LoC. Peeve: we see the scene from Nyn's
>: POV, so we don't really know what exactly they search parameters are.
>: According to the dialogue, the first search was for 'something to convince
>: the Hall to support Rand'. When they ended up in the Tower storeroom,
>: they (very stupidly IMO) changed their search to 'a ter'angreal not in the
>: Tower'. We don't know whether the second search still had the 'support
>: Rand' condition.
>
>I suspect not; I frankly don't see how the Bowl of the Winds is going to
>convince the Tower to do diddley squat for Rand, given they used it,
>apparently successfully, without Rand or any Ash'aman. Now, it may be
>causing some funky side effects, but only the Seanchan and Ash'aman are
>even aware of them.
I wonder if whatever item that's in the Tower (that they never actually
found, right? They gave up on looking for it because it was in the Tower
and they knew they couldn't get to it) will turn up later. Perhaps after
Egwene & co. get the Tower back, maybe Elayne will go poking around in the
storerooms to see what she can see, and all of a sudden come
upon...something.
That would be interesting.
She and Nyn go to the Tower and end up in a storeroom full of ter'angreal,
right? So they assume that whatever they're looking for is a ter'angreal.
(It probably is.) But I can't remember if the "bring SAS to Rand"
criterion still applied at this point, or if they remembered to apply it.
Must re-read that section.
[snip]
Rimrunner
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>
> In article <3656b958...@news.erols.com>,
> Jason Atkinson <jasona...@remove.erols.com> wrote:
>
> >If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
> >will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
>
> is being given a last chance, or that she represents the last chance
> the Shadow has for something?
On a related note, what is the name "Cyndane" a derivitive of "Cynthia?"
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Konrad J Gaertner
: : : 15. Can the Great Lord get his hand on your soul if you walk in the Light
: : : (or even the twilight?) if you're simply dead? (ref: Kari)
: : prevent the DO from using her to harm Rand.
: I think Ishy was just bluffing.
Far too subtle to be a bluff. When Rand blasts Kari, she says 'thank
you', and at this time Ishy is too busy trying to regain control of the
situation. And of course, the whole thing goes right over Rand's head
(assuming he remembers any of it later).
--KG
a900...@unet.univie.ac.at
>
> Ranma Al'Thor <ra...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> wrote:
> : Konrad J Gaertner (kon...@utdallas.edu) wrote:
> : : Erica Sadun <er...@galileo.cudenver.edu> wrote:
> : : : (or even the twilight?) if you're simply dead? (ref: Kari)
> : : IMO, she was a DF before she died. I also think she killed herself to
> : : prevent the DO from using her to harm Rand.
>
> : I think Ishy was just bluffing.
>
> Far too subtle to be a bluff. When Rand blasts Kari, she says 'thank
> you', and at this time Ishy is too busy trying to regain control of the
> situation. And of course, the whole thing goes right over Rand's head
> (assuming he remembers any of it later).
It clearly is a bluff, because it was mentioned several times
that Kari has had blue/gray eyes and fair hair while the woman in
question has dark ones and dark hair.
Andrea Leistra
Kevin 'Evinrude' Bartlett <klba...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>In article <72v2fa$7u4$1...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,
>Andrea Leistra <alei...@f1n7.u.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>>is being given a last chance, or that she represents the last chance
>>the Shadow has for something?
>
>standing in Moridin's eyes, I would guess the former... As most
>people do, I'm sure.
But there's room for ambiguity. It's a fairly trivial question that
*might* get answered, which was the point. Obviously there are far more
interesting questions.
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Andrea Leistra
Karl-Johan Noren
jasona...@remove.erols.com (Jason Atkinson) wrote:
> "Michael Martin" <Michael...@DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
>
> >RJ was very personable and seemed to genuinely enjoy the interaction with
> >the fans. I was disappointed, however, by how few questions there
> >were--most people simply stood there silently while he signed.
>
> If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
> will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
* Is the proper formal title for Birgitte "gaidar"?
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http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
- To believe people are as stupid as one believes is
stupider than one can believe.
onei...@my-dejanews.com
> [snip]
>
> >: This has bugged me ever since LoC. Peeve: we see the scene from Nyn's
> >: POV, so we don't really know what exactly they search parameters are.
> >: According to the dialogue, the first search was for 'something to convince
> >: the Hall to support Rand'. When they ended up in the Tower storeroom,
> >: they (very stupidly IMO) changed their search to 'a ter'angreal not in the
> >: Tower'. We don't know whether the second search still had the 'support
> >: Rand' condition.
Maybe what they _thought_ they needed wasn't what they _really_ needed. I
mean, in order for this "need" thing to work there'd have to be some sort of
governing intelligence in TAR, but putting that aside for the moment, they
focused on "need" assuming that they would be led to something that would
"bring the SAS to Rand." Maybe instead they focused on "need" and were led
to the thing that would help the entire world, tBotW. Then again, maybe
something in that *'angreal cache _will_ bring the SAS to Rand, albeit in a
very roundabout fashion. Take a look at Mat: the Finns told him he had to
go to Rhuidean to marry the Dot9M, give up half the light...etc, and that was
five books ago and it hasn't happened yet. Like Rand thinking about Laman
cutting down Avendoraldera, bringing the Aiel across the dragonwall so he
could be born on Dragonmount. Very roundabout, and difficult to link
together into a cohesive chain or related events unless you specifically
_know_ what you're looking for.
Steve G.
--
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spit in the IRS' eye
Konrad J Gaertner
: Konrad J Gaertner wrote:
:> Far too subtle to be a bluff. When Rand blasts Kari, she says 'thank
:> you', and at this time Ishy is too busy trying to regain control of the
:> situation. And of course, the whole thing goes right over Rand's head
:> (assuming he remembers any of it later).
: It clearly is a bluff, because it was mentioned several times
: that Kari has had blue/gray eyes and fair hair while the woman in
: question has dark ones and dark hair.
Cite please? I know Rand believes his hair/eye color comes from his
mother, but that's because that's what Tam told him. And of course, Tam
thinks Rand's mother is Aiel.
And if RJ can mess up the hair/eye color of Moiraine, we shouldn't be
surprised if he messes up someone less visible. And why would Rand
recognize her if the hair/eye color was wrong?
If its was a bluff, it was definately not done by Ishy. (Reasons
mentioned above.)
--KG
Courtenay Footman
>If you all want more questions asked, how about recommending ones that
>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
>
What would you have written differently in retrospect?
Should there be a "not" in the phrase "but this did seem a good time to
mention that?" on page 215 of tPoD?
What changes have there been to the text in various editions of tWoT?
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Mike Kozlowski
Courtenay Footman <c...@adore.lightlink.com> wrote:
>Should there be a "not" in the phrase "but this did seem a good time to
>mention that?" on page 215 of tPoD?
In episode 4F17, Itchy is playing Scratchy's ribs like a xylophone, and
hits the same rib twice, but it produces two distinctly different sounds.
Are we really supposed to believe that this is possible?
-Mike "Name that episode" K.
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Ben
says...
>In episode 4F17, Itchy is playing Scratchy's ribs like a xylophone, and
>hits the same rib twice, but it produces two distinctly different sounds.
>Are we really supposed to believe that this is possible?
>
>-Mike "Name that episode" K.
Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie
Pity that's not worth any points
Ben
Antonio Ramirez
> In article <slrn7592v...@adore.lightlink.com>,
> Courtenay Footman <c...@adore.lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> >Should there be a "not" in the phrase "but this did seem a good time to
> >mention that?" on page 215 of tPoD?
>
> In episode 4F17, Itchy is playing Scratchy's ribs like a xylophone, and
> hits the same rib twice, but it produces two distinctly different sounds.
> Are we really supposed to believe that this is possible?
>
Wasn't it "Are we supposed to believe it's some kind of 'magic'
xylophone?"
"She's a lady...A beautiful lady".
Charles
Jason Atkinson wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:16:03 -0500, "Michael Martin"
> <Michael...@DaytonOH.NCR.COM> wrote:
>
> >RJ was very personable and seemed to genuinely enjoy the interaction with
> >the fans. I was disappointed, however, by how few questions there
> >were--most people simply stood there silently while he signed.
>
Mark Erikson
Courtenay Footman wrote in message ...
>>will not be definite RAFO and have not been asked before.
>>
Have you drawn any maps of the AoL?
Will there be more on the redstone doorways in later books?
Are you splanning to throw some more spanners into the works (eg the TP,
Moridin etc) or are you trying to tie things up from here on?
Are you going to release a second edition Guide?
Was PoD the length you wanted? Will book 9 be longer?
Will any future books be as long as LoC or TSR?
Is Masema based on Lenin and Communism?
Do you really plan to end the serries with book 11? Wouldn't twelve books
be more rounded? Maybe even thirteen, since it's such a significant number
in the serries?
Is Lanfear good in bed?
Then maybe grab him by the colar, ram a pistol up his nose and say 'Just
tell me who the fuck killed Asmodean, or nobody ever gets to find out, get
the picture?'
-Mark Erikson
John M. Atkinson
>what does rafo stand for?
Read And Find Out.
HTH, HAND!
John M. Atkinson
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