RJ
Marcel Felgentraeger
Hi.
I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
has been discussed allready. But the last news I
have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
knows somthing new.
How is he and who is going to continue the book? Does
anybody know something new?
Marcel
CU Marcel
"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" (Robert Jordan)
Patrik Montgomery
In article <857243979m...@inga.augusta.de>, mar...@inga.augusta.de
(Marcel Felgentraeger) wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> knows somthing new.
>
> How is he and who is going to continue the book? Does
> anybody know something new?
>
Before someone with less patience picks this up: RJ did not have a heart
attack. He did not have a stroke. He was not killed by a freight train
driving through the hospital. He was not killed by earthworms. It was all
a troll, a joke. And it wasn't very funny either.
Patrik http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-18713/
"Loial, didn't you say there isn't any wind in the Ways?"
Malka Susswein
On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> knows somthing new.
>
> How is he and who is going to continue the book? Does
> anybodyknow something new?
<sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
Malka.
Prasad
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
> On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> > knows somthing new.
> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
ap.
Andrea Lynn Leistra
In article <857243979m...@inga.augusta.de>,
Marcel Felgentraeger <mar...@inga.augusta.de> wrote:
>Hi.
>
>I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
>has been discussed allready. But the last news I
>have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
>knows somthing new.
On the off chance that this isn't a troll:
No. Robert Jordan *did not* have a heart attack. He is *fine*.
--
Andrea Leistra http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~aleistra
-----
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts.
Kurt Montandon
Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
>> On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
>> > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
>> > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
>> > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
>> > knows somthing new.
>> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
>anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
How do you know what kind of a sense of humor pigs have?
Just how much time do you spend around pigs, anyways.
You're sick, man.
Kurt Montandon
--
"Even though he was my enemy, I had to admire his strategy.
First he punched me, then kicked me, then punched me again."
www.geocities.com/Area51/2747/index.html
www.geocities.com/Area51/2747/GroupFaq.htm - rasfwrj FAQ
Malka Susswein
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Prasad wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
>
> > On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> > > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> > > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> > > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> > > knows somthing new.
>
> > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>
> Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
Sorry, the temptation was just too much for me.
Malka.
Karl-Johan Noren
In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
>
> > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> > knows somthing new.
>
> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
Malka!
--
Karl-Johan "Gareth Bryne" Norén (Noren with acute e)
k-j-...@dsv.su.se -- http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
- To believe people are as stupid as one believes is
stupider than one can believe
Prasad
On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Kurt Montandon wrote:
> Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
> >On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
<Re:RJ>
> >> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> >Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> >anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
> How do you know what kind of a sense of humor pigs have?
Many sheep have baa..ed that pigs don't laugh when told
jokes. In fact they never laugh. Furthermore, they never
entertain with their wit and coversation. The conclusion
is clear: Pigs don't have a good sense of humor.
> Just how much time do you spend around pigs, anyways.
Not too much time. Like I said, they rarely make for
good company. They do make good food, however.
> You're sick, man.
Not really.
ap.
Malka Susswein
On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> >
> > > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> > > has beendiscussed allready. But the last news I
> > > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> > > knows somthing new.
> >
> > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>
> Malka!
<evil grin>
You called?
Malka.
Karl-Johan Noren
In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
>
> > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> >
> > > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> >
> > Malka!
>
> <evil grin>
>
> You called?
Yes.
*swats Malka with some pine twigs*
Jeff Vinocur
:Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
:>On Malka Susswein wrote:
:>> Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
:>> > [Question (Troll?) about RJ's health]
:
:>> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
:
:>Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
:>anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
:
:How do you know what kind of a sense of humor pigs have?
:
:Just how much time do you spend around pigs, anyways.
:
:You're sick, man.
Are you implying there is something inferior about mammals
of the genus Sus as compared to those of the genus Homo? I
will not stand for such discrimination.
--
Jeff Vinocur
chi...@ix.netcom.com
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3768/
alaric_smith
In article , alei...@leland.Stanford.EDU says...
>In article <857243979m...@inga.augusta.de>,
>Marcel Felgentraeger <mar...@inga.augusta.de> wrote:
>>Hi.
>>
>>knows somthing new.
>
>
>No. Robert Jordan *did not* have a heart attack. He is
*fine*.
What? You got some sort of author fetish?
Alaric Smith
alaric_smith
In article , Prasad says...
>
>
>On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
>
>> On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
this
>> > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
>> > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
>> > knows somthing new.
>
train.
>
>Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
>anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
>
Alaric Smith
Kurt Montandon
chi...@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Vinocur) wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 05:15:21 GMT, kmmon...@ucdavis.edu
>(Kurt Montandon) wrote:
>:How do you know what kind of a sense of humor pigs have?
>:
>:Just how much time do you spend around pigs, anyways.
>:
>:You're sick, man.
>Are you implying there is something inferior about mammals
>of the genus Sus as compared to those of the genus Homo? I
>will not stand for such discrimination.
Would you crawl for it?
Dance for it?
Do backflips for it?
Swim for it?
What will you do for such discrimination?
Nathan Lundblad
In article <patrik.montgomery...@130.244.76.62>,
Patrik Montgomery <patrik.m...@mbox200.swipnet.se> wrote:
>Before someone with less patience picks this up: RJ did not have a heart
>attack. He did not have a stroke. He was not killed by a freight train
>driving through the hospital. He was not killed by earthworms. It was all
>a troll, a joke. And it wasn't very funny either.
You forgot the goddamn hurricane.
If you're going to tell the trvth, at least be complete about it...
--
Nathan Lundblad lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu
Berkeley Astronomy http://www.ugastro.berkeley.edu/~lundblad
ninety-six below the wave
Kurt Montandon
lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:
>In article <patrik.montgomery...@130.244.76.62>,
>Patrik Montgomery <patrik.m...@mbox200.swipnet.se> wrote:
>>Before someone with less patience picks this up: RJ did not have a heart
>>attack. He did not have a stroke. He was not killed by a freight train
>>driving through the hospital. He was not killed by earthworms. It was all
>>a troll, a joke. And it wasn't very funny either.
>You forgot the goddamn hurricane.
>If you're going to tell the trvth, at least be complete about it...
And he's not gay.
At least not that we know of. Of course, if Galina is more
than slightly based on his wife. . . God only knows.
Jon Travaglia
On 4 Mar 1997 02:22:57 GMT, lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan
Lundblad), claimed they were told by the aliens that:
>In article <patrik.montgomery...@130.244.76.62>,
>Patrik Montgomery <patrik.m...@mbox200.swipnet.se> wrote:
>
>>Before someone with less patience picks this up: RJ did not have a heart
>>attack. He did not have a stroke. He was not killed by a freight train
>>driving through the hospital. He was not killed by earthworms. It was all
>>a troll, a joke. And it wasn't very funny either.
>
>You forgot the goddamn hurricane.
>
>If you're going to tell the trvth, at least be complete about it...
>
And he isn't a three legged German woman called Frieda.
HTH
Jon Travaglia
"Oblivious to the season or the weather or the signs that said 'Keep Out',
Dick limped across the uplands and the downs, scattering flocks of
sheep before him and putting the fear of God into the corn circle makers."
Jon Travaglia
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:41 -0600, Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>,
claimed they were told by the aliens that:
>
>
>On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
>
[IS RJ REALLY DEAD!!???!!!???!!!!!!!?]
>> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>
>Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
>anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
>
You know thats just about everyone on the froup don't you?
Patrik Montgomery
In article <5fg121$t...@agate.berkeley.edu>, lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu
(Nathan Lundblad) wrote:
> In article <patrik.montgomery...@130.244.76.62>,
> Patrik Montgomery <patrik.m...@mbox200.swipnet.se> wrote:
>
> >Before someone with less patience picks this up: RJ did not have a heart
> >attack. He did not have a stroke. He was not killed by a freight train
> >driving through the hospital. He was not killed by earthworms. It was all
> >a troll, a joke. And it wasn't very funny either.
>
> You forgot the goddamn hurricane.
>
> If you're going to tell the trvth, at least be complete about it...
>
Must have missed that part. Might have something to do with the word "killfile"
Andrea Lynn Leistra
In article <5ffe06$m...@lana.zippo.com>, <Alaric Smith> wrote:
>In article , alei...@leland.Stanford.EDU says...
>>In article <857243979m...@inga.augusta.de>,
>>Marcel Felgentraeger <mar...@inga.augusta.de> wrote:
>>>I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
>>>has been discussed allready. But the last news I
>>>have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
>>>knows somthing new.
>>
>>On the off chance that this isn't a troll:
>>
>>No. Robert Jordan *did not* have a heart attack. He is
>*fine*.
>^^^^^^
>
>What? You got some sort of author fetish?
I have *no* idea what you're talking about.
Even if I *did*, no, I don't have an 'author fetish'.
And even if I *did*, Jordan's the wrong sex.
Lara Beaton
so sayeth Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> :
>On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
>> On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
>> > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
>> > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
>> > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
>> > knows somthing new.
>> <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
>anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
Are you insulting the sense of humour of pigs?
========================================================================
Lara Beaton
The opinions expressed are not those of Hughes Aircraft. Soon,
I won't be speaking for Raytheon, either.
"... and then the cop pulled me over and I thought 'Oh, shit.
I'm in Idaho.'"
Christian R. Conrad
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:41 -0600,
> On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
> > On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> > > I know that RJ had a heart attack and that this
> > > has been discussed allready. But the last news I
> > > have is allready weeks old and I wonder if anybody
> > > knows somthing new.
> > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
Before we heap any more scorn on poor Prasad, I think it behooves us
to honour his wonderful typo/pun ("I _oink_ ... _pig_.", emphasis added)
and perhaps even consider if this was the main reason for the post...?
So:
Bravo, LOL!
And hey, you just kidding?
Just my 8 penni,
Christian R. Conrad
======================================================================
Inventor of the "Verin is OK, she just reads minds" theory,
Proud and sole owner of all opinions (except quotes) expressed above!
Malka Susswein
On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> >
> > > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > >
> > > > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> > >
> > > Malka!
> >
> > <evil grin>
> >
> > You called?
>
> Yes.
>
> *swats Malka with some pine twigs*
OW!
Careful, K-J, I still have that H-bomb...
Malka.
Magnus Itland
Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
[RJ's supposed heart attack]
><sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
I think the commonly used term is "bandwagon".
Shall we get off it now?
--
itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
such as for instance a slightly changed signature.
Prasad
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Christian R. Conrad wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:41 -0600,
> Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> said:
> > Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> > anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
> Before we heap any more scorn on poor Prasad, I think it behooves us
No thanks for saving me from scorn pal (what scorn was that again?).
I was trying for the .sig of "most scornful man on the net."
> to honour his wonderful typo/pun ("I _oink_ ... _pig_.", emphasis added)
> and perhaps even consider if this was the main reason for the post...?
And the main reason for your post was to point out the main reason
for my post? I'm sure the idiots out there appreciate that.
However, if you do plan to be my prophet, it behooves me to
set you straight. For if any two lines that I write cannot be
interpreted correctly, then I shudder to think of what the holy
book will finally end up as.
My sole purpose in writing that post was to dissuade Malka from
trolling and to point out to the trolled that it was a troll. The
last line was just to make it more friendly.
ap.
Prasad
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Lara Beaton wrote:
> so sayeth Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> :
> >Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> >anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
>
> Are you insulting the sense of humour of pigs?
Your reply is very deep, Lara. Are we talking pigs here?
Or, was that a jibe at the condensed IQ level on rasfwrj at the moment?
Or, were you picking on American spelling?
Or is it just that pigs have many more nipples than humans?
Talking with C. Conrad has surely made me suspiscious.
ap.
Robert Pfeifer
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Magnus Itland wrote:
}Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
}
}>On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
}
}[RJ's supposed heart attack]
}
}><sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
}
}I think the commonly used term is "bandwagon".
}Shall we get off it now?
Why? I can see Goodkind on the tracks just ahead.
Rob
================================================================================
"Nietzsche is dead." - God
Robert Pfeifer - mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
================================================================================
Karl-Johan Noren
In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > > On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > > > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > > > > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> > > > Malka!
> > >
> > > <evil grin>
> > > You called?
> >
> > Yes.
> > *swats Malka with some pine twigs*
>
> OW!
>
> Careful, K-J, I still have that H-bomb...
And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Magnus Itland wrote:
> Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> >On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
> [RJ's supposed heart attack]
> ><sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> I think the commonly used term is "bandwagon".
> Shall we get off it now?
The froup killed RJ with a bandwagon?
Jamie Bowden
Network Administrator, TBI Ltd.
Christian R. Conrad
> On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Christian R. Conrad wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:41 -0600,
> > Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> said:
> > > Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
> > > anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
>
> > Before we heap any more scorn on poor Prasad, I think it behooves us
> No thanks for saving me from scorn pal (what scorn was that again?).
> I was trying for the .sig of "most scornful man on the net."
Stuff like:
You're sick, man.
Kurt Montandon
Which I'd got the impression there was a lot of.
Now that you point it out, I see that's about it.
Sorry, my bad.
(And yes, I even missed Kurt's "Pig" talk. Sheesh, am I blind?
<shrill> -- Well, I was tired! Or something... </shrill> ;)
> > to honour his wonderful typo/pun ("I _oink_ ... _pig_.", emphasis added)
> > and perhaps even consider if this was the main reason for the post...?
> And the main reason for your post was to point out the main reason
> for my post? I'm sure the idiots out there appreciate that.
Let there never be said other than that I'm nothing if not helpful! ;)
< mumbles: One negation, two, three, four... Yes, makes sense. Or...? >
ObAside: Actually, there _is_ sometimes an amazing lot of
misreading and misunderstanding going on here, isn't there?
> However, if you do plan to be my prophet, it behooves me to
> set you straight. For if any two lines that I write cannot be
Yeah, well, I only thought the *last*words* on those lines were quite
hilarious, and wanted to know if they were an actual typo or on purpose.
> interpreted correctly, then I shudder to think of what the holy
> book will finally end up as.
"Holy Book"?!? Nonono, that's another thread entirely! And I'm
quitting it, so you'll have to take that up with Kurt and Dylan.
If you dare -- I don't think I would...
> My sole purpose in writing that post was to dissuade Malka from
> trolling and to point out to the trolled that it was a troll. The
> last line was just to make it more friendly.
Which probably answers my speculation -- the "oink" _was_ intentional...
We OK here now?
Christian R. Conrad
Sole owner of all opinions (except quotes) expressed above.
=====================================================================
I refuse to kill said alien creature in the belief it is hostile!
I will kill it just for fun! "Flesh Garden", MAD Magazine, May 1954
Malka Susswein
On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > > > On 3 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > > > > Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > > > > > <sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
> > > > > Malka!
> > > >
> > > > <evil grin>
> > > > You called?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > > *swats Malka with some pine twigs*
> >
> > OW!
> >
> > Careful, K-J, I still have that H-bomb...
>
> And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
Vas es das?
Malka.
Christian R. Conrad
> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
[ S N I P ]
> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
> Vas es das?
Cancel that question quick, before he answers!!!
Let me say: Lutfisk is *H*E*A*V*E*N*, compared to surströmming!!!
Now I'll go look up my old Army gas mask.
I suggest you do the same.
OK, I've done my best to warn you...
Come knock on my bunker when it's safe to come out again.
Jon Travaglia
On Sat, 8 Mar 1997 01:19:08 -0500, Jamie Bowden <ja...@inna.net>,
claimed they were told by the aliens that:
>On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Magnus Itland wrote:
>
>> Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>
>> >On 1 Mar 1997, Marcel Felgentraeger wrote:
>
>> [RJ's supposed heart attack]
>
>> ><sigh> He was doing fine untill he was run over by that train.
>
>> I think the commonly used term is "bandwagon".
>> Shall we get off it now?
>
>The froup killed RJ with a bandwagon?
>
The bandwagon was dropped onto his house by the hurricane, _then_ he
got hit by the freight train.
HTH!
Bo Lindbergh
In article <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> writes:
> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
>
> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
>
> Vas es das?
Mere words can't describe it, and if we tried to send you a sample, it
would never get through customs....
/Bo Lindbergh
Scottina B Good
Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
<snip>
> Talking with C. Conrad has surely made me suspiscious.
Exactly how much have the two of you been talking? I mean if he's
starting to wear off on you now...
Scottina
Malka Susswein
On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, Christian R. Conrad wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 1997 23:08:56 +0200,
> Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> said:
>=20
> > On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
>=20
> [ S N I P ]
>=20
> > > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstr=F6mming_ that will open
> > =09=09=09=09 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
>=20
> > Vas es das?
>=20
>=20
> Cancel that question quick, before he answers!!!
<cancelling...>
> Let me say: Lutfisk is *H*E*A*V*E*N*, compared to surstr=F6mming!!!
You people are _strange_! Why do you insist of sdigesting all these
horrible poisons? And people say _our_ dietary habits are strange...
> Now I'll go look up my old Army gas mask.
> I suggest you do the same.
I've got one in the closet in the bathroom, courtesy of the gulf war.
> OK, I've done my best to warn you...
> Come knock on my bunker when it's safe to come out again.
<knock knock>
<running away>
*BANG!*
Malka.
Patrik Montgomery
In article
<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
>
> >
> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
>
> Vas es das?
>
You don't want to know. Believe me.
Robert Pfeifer
On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
}In article
}<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
}Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
}> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
}> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstr=F6mming_ that will open
}> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
}> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
}> Vas es das?
}>=20
But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sort of soupy.
Do tell!
Rob
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"Nietzsche is dead." - God
Robert Pfeifer - mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Malka Susswein
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Robert Pfeifer wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
> }In article
> }<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> }Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> }> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> }> >
> }> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
> }> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> }> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
> }>
> }> Vas es das?
> }>
> }You don't want to know. Believe me.
>
> But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
> sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sort of soupy.
Not soupy, soapy.
Learn how to spel damit!
> Do tell!
I second the motion. Tell us, oh Strange People Who Eat Bleached Fish And
Other Such Atrocities.
Malka.
Lara Beaton
so sayeth Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> :
>On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Lara Beaton wrote:
>> so sayeth Prasad <pra...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> :
>> >Nonononono! Please let's not get into this again. I oink
>> >anyone who trolls has a worse sense of humor than a pig.
>>
>> Are you insulting the sense of humour of pigs?
>Your reply is very deep, Lara. Are we talking pigs here?
>Or, was that a jibe at the condensed IQ level on rasfwrj at the moment?
>Or, were you picking on American spelling?
>Or is it just that pigs have many more nipples than humans?
>Talking with C. Conrad has surely made me suspiscious.
My reply was a joke.
Deal.
================================================================
Lara Beaton
The opinions expressed are not those of Hughes Aircraft. Soon,
I won't be speaking for Raytheon, either.
"There may be many reasons not to kill you. Not counted among
them is that you'll be missed by NASA."
Magnus Itland
Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
>> In <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
>> Queen Sweetwine <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
>> > Careful, K-J, I still have that H-bomb...
>>
>> And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
>Vas es das?
In less enlightened times, a more or less permanent war existed
between the barbarian countries of Norway and Sweden. As you
know, the Norwegians had lutefisk. The Swedes regained the
terror balance thru "surströmming", which is also some kind of
dead and buried fish, at least equal in noxiousness. Actually
we Norwegians were on the defensive for quite a while, despite
adding "gravlaks" to our arsenal. (Dead and buried salmon with
lethal botulinus bacteria.) Only when pure Norwegian aquavit
was added to the lutefisk, did we finally gain our independence
from Sweden.
Robert Pfeifer
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Malka Susswein wrote:
}On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Robert Pfeifer wrote:
}> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
}> }In article
}> }<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
}> }> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstr=F6mming_ that will open
}> }> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
}> }> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
}> }> Vas es das?
}> }You don't want to know. Believe me.
}> But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
}> sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sort of soupy.
}
}Not soupy, soapy.
}Learn how to spel damit!
Kno! Bisides, ay soop cann bee soapey az w3ll.
Soap soup anyone?
}> Do tell!
}
}I second the motion. Tell us, oh Strange People Who Eat Bleached Fish And
}Other Such Atrocities.
Rob "Machin Shin" Pfeifer
Steve Monahan
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:31:45 +0000, Robert Pfeifer
<mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
[munch all meaningful text]
>
>Rob
>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>"Nietzsche is dead." - God
>Robert Pfeifer - mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
I thought you said you fixed that^^^^^stuff?
---
Steve (Remove "NO SPAM" to reply)
"...and I will make it felony to drink small beer."
[King Henry VI]
Jon Travaglia
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:31:45 +0000, Robert Pfeifer
aliens that:
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
It's happening again Rob...
Robert Pfeifer
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Courtenay Footman wrote:
> You are =3D'ing again, not to mention an occasional =20 and =F6.
> Your post follows, as it appeared on my screen:
<snip>
Thanks for the warning. I guess I'll have to give up quoting strange
Swedish alphabet characters.
Rob
================================================================================
"Nietzsche is dead." - God
Robert Pfeifer - mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
================================================================================
Robert Pfeifer
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Steve Monahan wrote:
}On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:31:45 +0000, Robert Pfeifer
}<mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
}
}[munch all meaningful text]
}
}>
}>Rob
}>
}>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
}
}I thought you said you fixed that^^^^^stuff?
Aieeeee!! I'll forward some posts with silly Swedish letters and things to
nott.test and mess about and see what I get. Wish me luck.
Rob
Karl-Johan Noren
In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.970312114859.27719A-100000@barton>,
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Courtenay Footman wrote:
>
> > You are =3D'ing again, not to mention an occasional =20 and =F6.
> > Your post follows, as it appeared on my screen:
>
> Thanks for the warning. I guess I'll have to give up quoting strange
> Swedish alphabet characters.
No need to, actually. Update to the latest version of Pine
(3.95, IIRC) and enable 8-bit-nntp-posting (as I think the
setting is named).
--
Karl-Johan "Gareth Bryne" Norén (Noren with acute e)
k-j-...@dsv.su.se -- http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
My local fileserver is temporarily out of order :-(
Patrik Montgomery
In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970310173027.24832P-100000@granby>, Robert
Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
> }In article
> }<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> }Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> }> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> }> >=20
> }> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstr=F6mming_ that will open
> }> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> }> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
> }>=20
> }> Vas es das?
> }>=20
> }You don't want to know. Believe me.
>
> But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
> sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sort of soupy.
>
> Do tell!
>
Well...strömming is a species of fish, fairly small. An attempt to
conserve captured fish by shutting out the air (thereby making sure it
would not rot) went wrong sometime, and whoever failed to conserve the
thing tasted it to see if could be eaten anyway. That person, who propably
could neither smell nor taste anything, found that he liked it and invited
a few friend to try it out. For some reason, they also liked it.
What really had happened was that the fish had fermented, thus producing a
substance that smells worse than anything on the face of the earth, but
according to the few brave who dare to try it out, tastes somewhat less
awfully. Some people actually like the taste.
Whatever the taste (I have _not_ tried it, and I doubt seriously that I
ever will), it smells terribly, and if Karl-Johan opened his cans (wearing
a gasmask), I would propably feel it from where I sit, which is about 4,5h
by train from where he is.
Summary: AVOID _SURSTRÖMMING_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Malka Susswein
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970310173027.24832P-100000@granby>, Robert
> Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>=20
> > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
> > }Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > }> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > }> >=3D20
> > }> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstr=3DF6mming_ that will open
> > }> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > }> > in thecase of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
> > }>
> > }> Vas es das?
> > }>
> > }You don't want to know. Believe me.
> >=20
> > But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
> > sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sortof soupy.
> >=20
> > Do tell!
> >=20
>=20
> Well...str=F6mming is...
[snip description]
Spoiled fish!
You people eat _spoiled fish_!!!!!
<boggling eyes>
<chock> I'm sorry, I can't go on... </chock>
Malka.
Robert Pfeifer
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
}In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.970312114859.27719A-100000@barton>,
}Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
}> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Courtenay Footman wrote:
}>
}> > You are =3D'ing again, not to mention an occasional =20 and =F6.
}> > Your post follows, as it appeared on my screen:
}>
}> Thanks for the warning. I guess I'll have to give up quoting strange
}> Swedish alphabet characters.
}
}No need to, actually. Update to the latest version of Pine
}(3.95, IIRC) and enable 8-bit-nntp-posting (as I think the
}setting is named).
Won't this mean I start posting in 8-bit _all_ the time? Or just when the
system feels the need?
Robert Pfeifer
On 9 Mar 1997, Bo Lindbergh wrote:
}In article <Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> writes:
}>
}> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surströmming_ that will open
}> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
}> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
}>
}> Vas es das?
}
}Mere words can't describe it, and if we tried to send you a sample, it
}would never get through customs....
Obfuscator. Get on with it! Tell or smuggle. Or get your local Cabal
representative [TANCR] to fly some over in a radar-cloaked black
helicopter.
Rob "Machin Shin" Pfeifer
Bill Garrett
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
}
} Thanks for the warning. I guess I'll have to give up quoting strange
} Swedish alphabet characters.
The problem is obvious from your headers:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
Somewhere in your preferences/configuration menus, there's probably
a choice between "Allow 8-bit" and "Use quoted-printable". Switch
the selection to "Allow 8-bit".
--
Bill Garrett I don't suffer from insanity;
Opinions mine, not Apple's. I enjoy every minute of it!
Karl-Johan Noren
In <Pine.SOL.3.95.970313101749.8290A-100000@granby>,
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
[ trouble with MIME codes from Pine ]
> }No need to, actually. Update to the latest version of Pine
> }(3.95, IIRC) and enable 8-bit-nntp-posting (as I think the
> }setting is named).
>
> Won't this mean I start posting in 8-bit _all_ the time? Or just when the
> system feels the need?
You probably post in 8-bit codes already - it's only that
you don't use the eight bit.
The only difference will be that if you post using
characters from the upper part of the ISO-Latin-1 character
set you'll send the the plain code for the character, and
not some MIME code.
That is, you'll get the behaviour from most PC-based
newsreaders when they encounter Latin-1 characters.
--
Karl-Johan "Gareth Bryne" Norén (Noren with acute e)
k-j-...@dsv.su.se -- http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
Hawk
In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970313101749.8290A-100000@granby>,
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>Won't this mean I start posting in 8-bit _all_ the time? Or just when the
>system feels the need?
Your weird postings have nothing to do with quoting strange characters.
The -only- time it's happened on my system is when you're posting your
stuff mime-encoded, which you don't do that often. Make sure you've got
the mime-encoding off, and you'll be fine.
Hawk
Jon Travaglia
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:02:50 +0000, Robert Pfeifer
>Aieeeee!! I'll forward some posts with silly Swedish letters and things to
>nott.test and mess about and see what I get. Wish me luck.
>
Luck!
Bill Garrett
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
} On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
} }
} }No need to, actually. Update to the latest version of Pine
} }(3.95, IIRC) and enable 8-bit-nntp-posting (as I think the
} }setting is named).
}
} system feels the need?
No. It just means that _if_ you choose to use 8-bit characters
(which include smart quotes, unusual symbols, and letters from
non-Roman alphabets) your system will pass them through as-is
rather than mangle them with MIME encoding.
Christian R. Conrad
(Ah yes, I see Patrik has already explained. Well, this was
almost done, so I'll just finish and post it anyway. Enjoy!)
On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:42:27 +0200,
Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> said:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Robert Pfeifer wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Patrik Montgomery wrote:
> > }In article
> > }<Pine.A32.3.93-heb-2.07.9...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il>,
> > }Malka Susswein <mal...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote:
> > }> On 7 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
> > }> >
> > }> > And I've got 2 million cans of _surstrOEmming_ that will open
^^^^^^^^^^^^
o-umlaut changed to OE - does that help those
with Scandinavian-challenged newsreaders?
> > }> > in the case of any nuclear bomb going off in my vicinity.
> > }>
> > }> Vas es das?
> > }>
> > }You don't want to know. Believe me.
> >
> > But I do. It'd go nicely with the lutfis#, and the sp#m and m#rmalade
> > sandwiches. Maybe as a starter - it sounds sort of soupy.
> Not soupy, soapy.
> Learn how to spel damit!
> > Do tell!
> I second the motion. Tell us, oh Strange People Who Eat Bleached Fish And
> Other Such Atrocities.
Ah well. You asked for it. Repeatedly.
Surstroemming is the most noxious substance known to Mankind,
luckily known only to a small, isolated and isolationist sub-
arctic subset of it so far, but since you ask, I'm in the process
of proving the dangers of too well-developed communications systems.
Like this "disinformation supertrackway" we're ab^H^Husing now.
You see, I strongly suspect even the _knowledge_ of this wonder of
putrefaction will form one of those "meme" brain-virus thingies in
your sub-conscious and leave you, Dear Reader, a gibbering psycho,
an empty husk of a person, twitching, slobbering, and spreading the
contagion ever onwards through your maniacal rantings.
Then again, maybe that wouldn't make such a big difference at all.
And since you, Malka, asked so nicely and persistently, and I'm such
a swell guy I just can't say no, prepare to be ass^H^H^Henlightened.
Surstroemming is fish too, just like lutfisk. It is, or rather was
when it was alive, an ordinary stroemming, which is a kind of small
herring, too small to be a sill. I'm not sure, though, wether it is
a separate species / variant /race, or just too young to be fully
grown. As it even has scales (and many other traits) to distinguish
it from the really much less harmful common or garden variety shrimp,
it would AFAIK be perfectly kosher. Now if there ever was a motive
of protecting the public health behind the formulation of the kashrut
rules, it must be stated openly: They've failed sadly, in this case.
And like lutfisk, surstroemming gets its name from the method of
preservation and preparation (and preparation for preservation etc,
of course). In direct opposite to its caustic cousin, though, the
dreaded surstroemming is acidic -- no, Malka, _not_ "C/Hassidic"!.
Acidic as in acid, LSD, HappyHappyJoyJo -- Oops, I mean, acidic as
in acid, sourness, vinegar and lemon juice and so forth.
The first bit, "sur", means "sour" in Swedish. Like other sour foods,
notably sauerkraut (now _there_'s a delicacy!) it is sealed up airtight
for a rather long while, and the microbes do their thing. Some of you
might think that this is in effect _rotten_ herring, but the Swedes
(some of them) claim that it's not. I guess one would have to say they
are right, _technically_. Otherwise they'd counter-claim that really
good fermented stuff is bad: Sauerkraut is "rotten cabbage", beer is
"rotten barley water", wine is "rotten grape juice", etc...
Surstroemming is mainly enjoyed in the northern parts of Sweden, but
unfortunately for me, they had a pretty generous definition of "north"
where I grew up in the middle of Sweden. It is a seasonal "delicacy",
unless the law's been changed recently. As for crayfish, which could
only be sold after the second thursday in August, this was set free
some years ago, since the market consisted mainly of frozen American
and Turkish products anyway. (_Catching_ is still restricted AFAIK.)
But I haven't heard of the official sale start for surstroemming being
rescinded, so for all I know it's still the third Friday in August.
Possibly stipulated so no vendor would be tempted to put not-yet-ready
merchandise up for sale just to beat the competition. The fish in
question is _last_ year's catch, of course. Takes _time_ to ripen...
You think there seem to be a lot of excuses for partying in August?
Yes, as the bright but oh-so-short summer comes to an end, the Swedes
go into ever more of a party frenzy, and the atmosphere turns more or
less orgiastic. It's probably an effect of thir being at heart a rural
people, with massive-scale urbanization having taken place only in the
last couple of generations or so. And when they sit in their summer
cabins, watching the verdant lushness wilt, I think they are all, men
and women alike, acutely reminded of that biological clock that, albeit
on a somewhat longer time-scale, is commonly associated with women only.
The "correct" way to enjoy this ultimate dethronization of rotten eggs
(commonly believed to be the most potent source of H2S. Ha! What a
misconception!), is like most of traditional Swedish "haute cuisine":
with boiled potatoes, and no sauce. Except of course, to you Merkins,
the "sauce" could mean another liquid, which indeed _does_ flow freely:
Alcohol, clear distilled spirits, AKA schnapps (Sw. "snaps") or vodka.
The favourite make is "skogsstjaernan", "Forest Star", a little flower
that grows mainly in remote and peaceful parts of Swedish forests.
But you won't find that in any of the state monopoly liquor stores.
It's a code- or nickname, it's just that in Swedish,
the light of the moon has nothing to do with it...
The menu does of course have _some_ items besides surstroemming and
potatoes. There's the thin bread of northern Sweden, preferably in
both of its (totally taste-free) varieties, soft (Swedish chapatti)
and crunchy (edible Plexi-glass). The potaotes should, for purists
anyway, be of the "almond potato" kind. This is a kind of small and
oblong potato, that actually _does_ have an aroma (and shape) that
is slightly reminiscent of almonds. The surstroemming is most often
eaten on bread, or even wrapped _in_ it if it's the soft kind, with
sliced potatoes, chopped red onions, and sour cream.
I tried to _eat_ a bite once, at age 13 or so, and I just _couldn't_.
I think my dear little mother summed it up best, at the same occasion:
"It tastes just like shit!"
When confronted with the logical implications of this statement
(Wouldn't _you_ have, at 13?), she did of course amend it to be
"Tastes just like one would assume from the smell that shit does.",
but that just doesn't have the same ring to it, now does it?!?
I have actually had pieces in my mouth later, for a part of my
"initiation" at university was like apple-bobbing, only we were
supposed to catch pieces of surstroemming out of a basin full of
flour. The main purpose was of course to get us all silly-looking
and full of flour. Points were awarded for how many pieces you
found, and bonus points for actually swallowing them. Needless to
say, I didn't even _try_ for the latter, but almost vomited anyway.
Now depending on vintage, KJ's armoury could actually be about
to self-destruct. If you don't eat a can of surstroemming the year
after it's made, it just _goes_on_ fermenting away, and becomes an
even worse stink-bomb (inconcievable as that may seem...). These
are normal, or perhaps even on the sturdy side of normal, tin cans.
But mere metal cannot withstand the forces at play here.
Old surstroemming cans _swell_. At first, the top and bottom just
bulge slightly, but after a few years the enormous pressure that
builds up in there forces the whole vessel into spherical shape.
That is, blows the can up like a ball! (_Not_ kidding.)
I have no idea where most of these cans go, unless Sweden exports
them to some country with a facility for dismantling nuclear weapons.
But some few get carelessly thrown away in the forest etc, and these
can be near-mortal traps for curious youngsters who find them.
Happened to a friend of mine when I was little. "Wow, what's this?!?
Dad, can I borrow hammer and chisel?". Being naturally cautious I
stood well back, which is how I happened to surrvive the resulting
explosion with only _mental_ scars. _Not_ something I recommend.
Robert Pfeifer
On 13 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
}In <Pine.SOL.3.95.970313101749.8290A-100000@granby>,
}Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
}> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Karl-Johan Noren wrote:
}
}[ trouble with MIME codes from Pine ]
}
}> }(3.95, IIRC) and enable 8-bit-nntp-posting (as I think the
}> }setting is named).
}>
}> Won't this mean I start posting in 8-bit _all_ the time? Or just when the
}> system feels the need?
}
}you don't use the eight bit.
}
}The only difference will be that if you post using
}characters from the upper part of the ISO-Latin-1 character
}set you'll send the the plain code for the character, and
}not some MIME code.
}
}That is, you'll get the behaviour from most PC-based
}newsreaders when they encounter Latin-1 characters.
I am now doing it. Be sure to let me know if it gaffs up some other way
instead. Thanks!
Rob
Jeff Vinocur
On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:21:17 GMT,
christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad) wrote a
125+ line treatise on Surstroemming. And they claim that
people spend too much time on their computers. Paugh.
--
Jeff Vinocur
chi...@ix.netcom.com
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3768/
Magnus Itland
chi...@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Vinocur) wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:21:17 GMT,
>christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad) wrote a
>125+ line treatise on Surstroemming. And they claim that
>people spend too much time on their computers. Paugh.
The origin of this, and the Lutefisk, and the Gravlaks
(dead and buried salmon) is as a test for homemade alcoholic
beverages. If you can eat the poisoned predigested fish,
the stuff is strong enough to share with your friends.
If you survive.
The earth-buried salmon claims some fatalities now and then,
but the Lutefisk is normally less toxic than the aquavit
they drink with it.
--
itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
such as for instance a slightly altered signature.
Robert Pfeifer
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Jon Travaglia wrote:
}On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:31:45 +0000, Robert Pfeifer}>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
}
}It's happening again Rob...
I have now enabled _every_ last 8-bit option in Pine. If it keeps this up,
I'll change the = to - or *. That might help.
Karl-Johan Noren
In <Pine.SOL.3.95.970320152655.854A-100000@granby>,
Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Jon Travaglia wrote:
> }On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 Robert Pfeifer <mzy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
> }
> }>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> }
> }It's happening again Rob...
>
> I have now enabled _every_ last 8-bit option in Pine. If it keeps this up,
> I'll change the = to - or *. That might help.
I doubt you need to do that. The article Jon wrote was
written last week.
Christian R. Conrad
> On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:21:17 GMT,
> christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad) wrote a
> 125+ line treatise on Surstroemming. And they claim that
> people spend too much time on their computers. Paugh.
Who's "they"? Your parents? My XSO?
Just because I'm sitting here at work on a Sunday afternoon?
Never mind them, for they know not whereof they speak... :)
Jeff Vinocur
On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:09:44 GMT,
christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad) wrote:
:On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 18:43:11 GMT,
:chi...@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Vinocur) said:
:
:> On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:21:17 GMT,
:> christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad) wrote a
:> 125+ line treatise on Surstroemming. And they claim that
:> people spend too much time on their computers. Paugh.
:
:Who's "they"? Your parents?
yep.
:Never mind them, for they know not whereof they speak... :)
points?