WotC posts WoT Art Gallery
The Great Gray Skwid
Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
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Smagu
The Great Gray Skwid wrote in message ...
>
>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>
>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>
>Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
>
Wow. Great stuff.
(Go to "Gallery Seven: Encounters" for some of the best representations of
the main characters I've ever come across.)
-- Smagu
Michael Hoye
The Great Gray Skwid <sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
I especially like the pics of Fain and the Aiel.
Perhaps a dumb, way-late-in-the-series realization came of it, too:
why do the Aiel veil themselves when they go into battle?
Because battles between clans are mean to be anonymous, impersonal.
It prevents vendettas, in other words. Personal gripes are settled
hand-to-hand, and unveiled, precisely because they are personal.
They're gotten out of the way quickly.
--
Mike Hoye
Jean D
A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
TNH (or is it her?).
The unindentified "chapter six opening illustration" in gallery 4:
that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
--
Jean
Cannae216
<snip>
> Perhaps a dumb, way-late-in-the-series realization came of it, too:
> why do the Aiel veil themselves when they go into battle?
>
> Because battles between clans are mean to be anonymous, impersonal.
> It prevents vendettas, in other words. Personal gripes are settled
> hand-to-hand, and unveiled, precisely because they are personal.
> They're gotten out of the way quickly.
I believe that part is explained during Rand's flashback to the AoL
while in Rhuheidin (sp?). Essentially after the first Aiel picked up
the spear and killed, they were scorned upon return to the camp. One of
the mother's says something along the lines of 'cover your face, I don't
want to seem my sons face on a killer.' This need to cover their faces
has since become tradition and is one of the remnants of the Way of the
Leaf.
Cannae216
>
> Smagu wrote:
> >
> > The Great Gray Skwid wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
> > >tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
> > >
> > >http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
<snip>
> The unindentified "chapter six opening illustration" in gallery 4:
> that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
I would guess no as it does not appear that the man has a beard. It
might however be Lord and Lady Bashere.
K Doyle
Corey M Seward
> Smagu wrote:
[WOT art at
<http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a> ]
>> (Go to "Gallery Seven: Encounters" for some of the best representations of
>> the main characters I've ever come across.)
> A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
> TNH (or is it her?).
I doubt it, as TNH has signed as TNH every time I've seen it here, and it
mentions in the opening blurb from the Art Director that the artist is a
Therese Nielsen.
> The unindentified "chapter six opening illustration" in gallery 4:
> that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
Comparing it to the picture of Perrin in Gallery 7, it doesn't look close
enough to be the same person. It looks like that guy is a little
older, and not so muscular. Perhaps Davram Bashere?
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Leigh Butler
<sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>
>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>
>Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
Agreed, though I can't shake the impression that almost every one of
the female characters look like they're posing for Medieval Playboy.
I did like the ones of Mat and Perrin, though. Rand's not as much.
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>
> Jean D <dufr...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
> > Smagu wrote:
> [WOT art at
> <http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a> ]
>
> >> (Go to "Gallery Seven: Encounters" for some of the best representations of
> >> the main characters I've ever come across.)
>
> > A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
> > TNH (or is it her?).
>
> I doubt it, as TNH has signed as TNH every time I've seen it here, and it
> mentions in the opening blurb from the Art Director that the artist is a
> Therese Nielsen.
>
> > The unindentified "chapter six opening illustration" in gallery 4:
> > that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
>
> Comparing it to the picture of Perrin in Gallery 7, it doesn't look close
> enough to be the same person. It looks like that guy is a little
> older, and not so muscular. Perhaps Davram Bashere?
>
Replying to both Corey and Cannae216...
The gentleman appears much too tall for Davram, and weren't Mr. and
Mrs. Bashere described as slightly grey?
If it weren't for the mustache, I'd say Domon and Egeanin... well,
Domon's supposed to be a little stout, Darlin and Caroline?
<Uncontrollable Eddings Flash>
Barak and Merel?
</Uncontrollable Eddings Flash>
What?...
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The Great Gray Skwid
whispered:
> Corey M Seward wrote:
> > Jean D <dufr...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
> > > Smagu wrote:
> > [WOT art at
> > <http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a> ]
> > > that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
> > Comparing it to the picture of Perrin in Gallery 7, it doesn't look close
> > enough to be the same person. It looks like that guy is a little
> > older, and not so muscular. Perhaps Davram Bashere?
> Replying to both Corey and Cannae216...
> The gentleman appears much too tall for Davram, and weren't Mr. and
> Mrs. Bashere described as slightly grey?
> If it weren't for the mustache, I'd say Domon and Egeanin... well,
> Domon's supposed to be a little stout, Darlin and Caroline?
Y'all are overinterpreting. I think most of the art is specifically
designed to not resemble any particular characters. Remember, this is
supposed to inspire people to create their own unique characters in the
WoT universe.
Alexander Kyle
<sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>
>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>
>Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
Wow, that Cairhienin wanderer and the Tairen wanderer... chilling.
The Wise One apprentice smacked of art nouveux more than Aiel Waste,
but I like it a lot.
The Gallery 4 group shot of the Noble, Aes Sedai, Whitecloak, Wilder,
and Wanderer... wow.
The Tuatha'an, oh my.
I noticed that some of the illustrations came from the 'childrens''
version of the Eye of the World.
I am shocked that such great illustrations inside didn't translate to
a great box cover. It looks like general DKS fair, the Ogier's head is
huge, even for an Ogier.
For a moment I thought this was another card type game. The last thing
I need is to get obsessed with collecting cards. It's been 8? 10?
years since Jim Lee did that X-men card series? I hope that was the
first and last time I ever get obsessed with collecting anything...
*shiver*
This Wheel of Time is a dice oriented RPG? And these drawings come
from the game manual? I've never experienced that type of game. I
guess you role-play a sort of open-ended quest set in the WoT world?
Or do you select a character from among our Robert Jordan main
character list?
Hmmm, after reading through the site I am very intrigued... $40 for
the campaign. *laugh* I don't have enough friends who have the sort of
imagination needed to play this game; you need at least 2-3 people for
this sort of RPG right?
Alex Kyle
Alexander Kyle
wrote:
Both explanations fit nicely. Michael the anthropologist, and
Cannae216 the RJ fan with quote in hand.
Alexander Kyle
Laura M. Parkinson
>On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:37:59 -0600, The Great Gray Skwid
><sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>>
>>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>>
>>Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
>
>Agreed, though I can't shake the impression that almost every one of
>the female characters look like they're posing for Medieval Playboy.
>
>I did like the ones of Mat and Perrin, though. Rand's not as much.
Rand looks in a way like he's vying with Labyrinth's Bowie in the
"best supporting actor" category... Oh yeah, and his eyes are just
weird. And the arm "tattoo" is, IIRC, just wrong.
Mat I liked a lot, except that he was little too "dandy." Yeah, he's
supposed to be a ladies' man, but I didn't really have the impression
of a hat with a big-assed feather like that on it. (isn't it supposed
to be more in the Odin style than in the swashbuckler fashion?) And
where did he pick up a rapier?
Other than those little touches, though, it's good - I love the grin.
Perrin's is also good. One or two others aren't quite what i had
pictured in my own mind, but are still good, like Thom Merrilin or
Padan Fain (now being played by Trent Reznor). Creepy.
The Gholam picture is kinda neat except that if he's squeezing through
the cracks in a door, he's not going to have a damn big dagger in his
hand, damnit. The myrddraal doesn't seem quite right in the face (with
the eye sockets kinda standing out) and in the hair, and the dragkhar
is right out. What the hell does one have to do to get some decently
drawn Darkspawn in some of the official stuff, anyhow? (With the
exception of the Darkhounds, which look cool and evil.)
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Jim Millen
<sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
>Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>
>http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
I kind of wish some of the events in those illustrations _had_
happened. Looks kind of interesting.
Hmmm... Aes Sedai creates a grenade... "Thou shalt count three, and
three is the number to which thou shall count. Thou shalt not count
to two, neither shall thou count to four...."
Ok, ok, I'll stop now!
Richard Boye'
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:37:59 -0600, The Great Gray Skwid
> <sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
> >tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
> >
> >http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
> >
> >Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
>
> Agreed, though I can't shake the impression that almost every one of
> the female characters look like they're posing for Medieval Playboy.
Nay. The only one who seemed truly egregious in her posture was Egwene -
the other one by the same artist of the 'Domani Aes Sedai' seemed apt,
since Domani women are sly ingenues who use their posture as a tool (as
well as their touch and eye contact).
I truly liked many of them - the Tairen Lord was very well done, as were
the Sea Folk.
However, as anatomically sane as they are, the details on many of them
as still wrong, like the Cairhienin plotter of the Great Game, which is
basically a hashed-over portait of Elizabeth I as a young princess, and
not at all in keeping with the somber style of Cairhien. The Ebou Dari
woman was also slightly odd - the skirts are sewn up, but where are the
peticoats?!?
The portraits of the three tav'eren, though, are all spot on - the one
of Mat is perfect. Something about his mocking bow captures his
character perfectly.
I thought the Moiraine was lovely, although I wonder about that frilly
cowl.
I disagree on the White Tower, however.
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> Hmmm... Aes Sedai creates a grenade... "Thou shalt count three, and
> three is the number to which thou shall count. Thou shalt not count
> to two, neither shall thou count to four...."
FWIW, Grenade is what they called the weave that Verin and Alanna used
on the catapult stones in TSR.
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Jim Millen
<drot...@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
>Jim Millen <jim-m...@neverness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... Aes Sedai creates a grenade... "Thou shalt count three, and
>> three is the number to which thou shall count. Thou shalt not count
>> to two, neither shall thou count to four...."
>
>FWIW, Grenade is what they called the weave that Verin and Alanna used
>on the catapult stones in TSR.
Really? Hmmm... maybe it is time for the Nth reread after all.
Cheers for the info!
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Impoverished Student
"Sam will kill him if he tries anything."
- Cassandra Claire, the VSDs
Richard Boye'
It's also a well-settled anthropological constant that face disguising,
albeit with veils, masks or war paint, is commonly used to liberate the
person into becoming an anonymous killing machine.
It's the same principle at work when people feel free to go 'wilding'
when they are in large groups and where they don't feel they stand out
in any way.
Richard Boye'
>
> Smagu wrote:
> >
> > The Great Gray Skwid wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
> > >tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
[....]
> The unindentified "chapter six opening illustration" in gallery 4:
> that's Perrin and Faile, isn't it?
I suspect it's just supposed to be a generic Aes Sedai and her warder.
Dave Rothgery
> On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 02:03:53 GMT, Dave Rothgery
> <drot...@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
>
> >Jim Millen <jim-m...@neverness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmm... Aes Sedai creates a grenade... "Thou shalt count three, and
> >> three is the number to which thou shall count. Thou shalt not count
> >> to two, neither shall thou count to four...."
> >
> >FWIW, Grenade is what they called the weave that Verin and Alanna used
> >on the catapult stones in TSR.
>
> Really? Hmmm... maybe it is time for the Nth reread after all.
> Cheers for the info!
Let me rephrase that.
The RPG has a weave called 'grenade'. When woven at 4th-level effect,
it's pretty clearly Verin and Alanna's catapult stone weave from The
Shadow Rising[1].
[1] Spelled out because of potential acronym overloading in an RPG
context.
Jim Millen
<drot...@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
>Jim Millen <jim-m...@neverness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 02:03:53 GMT, Dave Rothgery
>> <drot...@alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
>> Really? Hmmm... maybe it is time for the Nth reread after all.
>> Cheers for the info!
>
>Let me rephrase that.
>The RPG has a weave called 'grenade'. When woven at 4th-level effect,
>it's pretty clearly Verin and Alanna's catapult stone weave from The
>Shadow Rising[1].
>
>[1] Spelled out because of potential acronym overloading in an RPG
>context.
Right. That makes a bit more sense now. I worried when I read your
earlier post, since if I had really forgotten the use of grenades in
tWoT then my memory is worse than I thought. Or I need more sleep.
Whatever!
Oh well, least we got that sorted. *grin*
Corey M Seward
>> > [WOT art at
>> > <http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a> ]
[who was that masked man?]
> Y'all are overinterpreting.
On this group? You must be kidding.
I think most of the art is specifically
> designed to not resemble any particular characters. Remember, this is
> supposed to inspire people to create their own unique characters in the
> WoT universe.
And what are you doing bringing logic into the discussion?
Adrian Clark
[snip comments on latest WoC WOT art]
> For a moment I thought this was another card type game. The last thing
> I need is to get obsessed with collecting cards. It's been 8? 10?
> years since Jim Lee did that X-men card series? I hope that was the
> first and last time I ever get obsessed with collecting anything...
> *shiver*
>
I hope this isn't a bad time to let you know about the Wheel of Time
Collectable Card Game which has been out for sometime - although it
isn't in production anymore IIRC.
I have myself a "Dragon Reborn" deck. There is also the "Forsaken"
deck. They get you started. You need one DR and one Forsaken deck to
play a game.
I never really played much. Seemed like a waste of time in the end.
The main reason I got the cards in the first place was a friend of mine
ran a shop which sold RPG stuff and organised tournaments. We had a
free demo day with a few other WOT enthusiasts.
:) HAND!
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> Mat I liked a lot, except that he was little too "dandy." Yeah, he's
> supposed to be a ladies' man, but I didn't really have the impression
> of a hat with a big-assed feather like that on it. (isn't it supposed
> to be more in the Odin style than in the swashbuckler fashion?) And
> where did he pick up a rapier?
Or more pertinently, have WotC been buying artwork
originally intended for other games to save money?
> The Gholam picture is kinda neat except that if he's squeezing through
> the cracks in a door, he's not going to have a damn big dagger in his
> hand, damnit.
It's a Gholam squeezy-dagger, obviously.
> The myrddraal doesn't seem quite right in the face (with
> the eye sockets kinda standing out)
Haven't seen it yet, but is it that the eye sockets stand out
[like a sore thumb], or that they bulge out? Fades are
supposed to have a forehead down to their mouth, basically,
with only the nose getting in the way.
and in the hair, and the dragkhar
> is right out. What the hell does one have to do to get some decently
> drawn Darkspawn in some of the official stuff, anyhow? (With the
> exception of the Darkhounds, which look cool and evil.)
Sell your soul to Shai'tan.
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Jasper Janssen
wrote:
>A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
>TNH (or is it her?).
Terese Nielsen (who incidentally has done some of the best M:tG cards
lately) is AFAICT no relation to TheresA Nielsen Hayden.
See www.tnielsen.com .
Jasper
Jasper Janssen
<evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
>Or more pertinently, have WotC been buying artwork
>originally intended for other games to save money?
More likely using than buying. WotC has their very own stable of artists
that they commission their pictures out of, and they have artwork coming
out their *ears*.
However, given that there are well over a hundred pieces in this
webcollection alone, probably more in the books, I would think that at
least for the main characters they did new art. They're not *that* poor.
>It's a Gholam squeezy-dagger, obviously.
Yeah, didn't you ever see T2?
Jasper
Mitchell Swan
>
>
> Y'all are overinterpreting. I think most of the art is specifically
> designed to not resemble any particular characters. Remember, this is
> supposed to inspire people to create their own unique characters in the
> WoT universe.
Oh, I agree, I was just jumping on the bandwagon. My opinion though,
is that since the artists did draw specific characters it would seem,
to me at least, that they probably had a character in mind to give
them some reference point when drawing the other, "generic"
characters.
It's just interesting to try and match a physical picture with a
mental composite in my head and see if they came close to what I had
imaginied. Even if that's what what the artist intended.
"Damn, that looks JUST like I had pictured Bryne." That kind of
thing.
I think I need more coffee.
Pat O'Connell
>
> Smagu wrote:
> >
> > The Great Gray Skwid wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
> > >tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
> > >
> > >http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
> > >
> > >Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
> >
> > Wow. Great stuff.
> >
> > (Go to "Gallery Seven: Encounters" for some of the best representations of
> > the main characters I've ever come across.)
>
> A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
> TNH (or is it her?).
>
Accortding to the Web page, it's Terese Nielson.
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Daniel Magnusson
wrote:
>Smagu wrote:
>>
>> The Great Gray Skwid wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >Wizards of the Coast has posted an Art Gallery of pieces from their WoT
>> >tabletop RPG, including some pieces originally cut from the book.
>> >
>> >http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>> >
>> >Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
>>
>> Wow. Great stuff.
>>
>> (Go to "Gallery Seven: Encounters" for some of the best representations of
>> the main characters I've ever come across.)
>
>A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
>TNH (or is it her?).
I knew her from the newish MMORPG "Dark Age of Camelot, for which she
did the box-art. She isn't TNH.
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Her name is also at the bottom of the splash screen for Dark Ages of
Camelot.
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> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:17:41 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
>
> >Or more pertinently, have WotC been buying artwork
> >originally intended for other games to save money?
>
> More likely using than buying. WotC has their very own stable of artists
> that they commission their pictures out of, and they have artwork coming
> out their *ears*.
>
> However, given that there are well over a hundred pieces in this
> webcollection alone, probably more in the books, I would think that at
> least for the main characters they did new art. They're not *that* poor.
Jasper, I play Magic. I *know* they're not poor. However, I
also know from experience that they *are* cheap.
Leigh Butler
wrote:
>Leigh Butler wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:37:59 -0600, The Great Gray Skwid
>> <sk...@thehumblest.net> wrote:
>> >http://www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/article.asp?x=wx20020305a
>> >
>> >Some of this stuff is really, really nice.
>>
>> Agreed, though I can't shake the impression that almost every one of
>> the female characters look like they're posing for Medieval Playboy.
>
>Nay. The only one who seemed truly egregious in her posture was Egwene -
>the other one by the same artist of the 'Domani Aes Sedai' seemed apt,
>since Domani women are sly ingenues who use their posture as a tool (as
>well as their touch and eye contact).
Well, Egwene was definitely the worst. However, that's just my
impression, and it wasn't posture for most of them so much as it was
facial expression - that kind of
chin-downtilted-gazing-at-camera-through-eyelashes thing that is the
preferred "come hither" look of the porno set.
>The portraits of the three tav'eren, though, are all spot on - the one
>of Mat is perfect. Something about his mocking bow captures his
>character perfectly.
I didn't like Rand at all, like I said, but the other two are great. I
agree about the bow - perfect pose for Mat.
>I disagree on the White Tower, however.
Yeah. That pic made it look almost... squat.
I never pictured it as cylindrical, either.
Jean D
>
> Jean D wrote:
> >
> > A beautiful Moiraine. I assume the artist who signs "T. Nielsen" is not
> > TNH (or is it her?).
>
> Accortding to the Web page, it's Terese Nielson.
Problem is the web page clearly got her last name wrong. I'd rather
trust the artist herself when she signs T. Nielsen. Considering this,
it was not impossible that her first name could also have been mistyped
on the web page. But, as other posters have confirmed, her name is
Terese Nielsen and she is not TNH.
--
Jean
Zach
> This Wheel of Time is a dice oriented RPG? And these drawings come
> from the game manual?
Yup and yup.
> I've never experienced that type of game. I
> guess you role-play a sort of open-ended quest set in the WoT world?
> Or do you select a character from among our Robert Jordan main
> character list?
You *could* play a Robert Jordan character; their stats are provided.
But it's really designed to play your own character in the WoT world.
> Hmmm, after reading through the site I am very intrigued... $40 for
> the campaign. *laugh* I don't have enough friends who have the sort of
> imagination needed to play this game; you need at least 2-3 people for
> this sort of RPG right?
Three people, minimum. Five for a decent game.
Jasper Janssen
<evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
<wotc>
>Jasper, I play Magic. I *know* they're not poor. However, I
>also know from experience that they *are* cheap.
Wot, people still play that stuff over in the outback?
And well, I know WotC too, and they may be cheap, but they're not THAT
cheap.
Jasper
Alexander Kyle
wrote:
>Alexander Kyle wrote:
>[snip comments on latest WoC WOT art]
>
>
>> For a moment I thought this was another card type game. The last thing
>> I need is to get obsessed with collecting cards. It's been 8? 10?
>> years since Jim Lee did that X-men card series? I hope that was the
>> first and last time I ever get obsessed with collecting anything...
>> *shiver*
>>
>
>I hope this isn't a bad time to let you know about the Wheel of Time
>Collectable Card Game which has been out for sometime - although it
>isn't in production anymore IIRC.
Yup, I knew about that, but those drawings were hideous. These
drawings from the 20D RPG were great and I could see myself picking up
a deck of them (if there were such thing) and maybe in a nightmare
scenario being compelled to GET THEM ALL Muah ha ha hahahahah (insert
flashing lightning, clawing hands raised to the heavens etc etc etc.)
You see why I was worried about them being cards now...
Alexander Kyle
Alexander Kyle
>kidi...@hotmail.com (Alexander Kyle) wrote in message news:<3c8687f1...@news.LA.sbcglobal.net>...
>
>> This Wheel of Time is a dice oriented RPG? And these drawings come
>> from the game manual?
>
>Yup and yup.
>
>> I've never experienced that type of game. I
>> guess you role-play a sort of open-ended quest set in the WoT world?
>> Or do you select a character from among our Robert Jordan main
>> character list?
>
>You *could* play a Robert Jordan character; their stats are provided.
>But it's really designed to play your own character in the WoT world.
Hmm, wouldn't picking one of our uber-channelers give a huge
advantage?
>> Hmmm, after reading through the site I am very intrigued... $40 for
>> the campaign. *laugh* I don't have enough friends who have the sort of
>> imagination needed to play this game; you need at least 2-3 people for
>> this sort of RPG right?
>
>Three people, minimum. Five for a decent game.
Goodness... Of all the friends I have most are fun as hell, but
couldn't imagine their way off a stool and out of a Cairhienin
tavern... Not for long at least, definitely not for the hours that it
would take for the game to get good.
I say: 'I throw a fireball! watch now as I make the young Tairen dark
friend into an Illuminator's firework!!!' boom boom crackle crackle
splash (I am on my feet acting out my fantastic throw)
friend says: 'ummmm... okay... let's go to Abercrombie and Fitch.'
I say "OKAY! (on account as I love shopping and A&F)' but am saddened
that we only played for 30 mins and we didn't even get out of Lugard.
I'll probably end up picking up the campaign starter anyway, for
kicks.
Even in higher education I find myself having to repeat myself with
other, smaller words, because so many people just don't read!
(Assuming that reading expands vocabulary and imagination as it has
for me.)
A particularly frustrating day was when I had to explain 'mundane' to
a sweet friend of mine--a Psych major, not an English major. But
mundane is such a simple word... I can't even imagine the looks if I
used rasf-type words like vainglorious, plotsome, and my favorite,
vexatious.
Alexander Kyle
David Chapman
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:14:30 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
>
> <wotc>
> >Jasper, I play Magic. I *know* they're not poor. However, I
> >also know from experience that they *are* cheap.
>
> Wot, people still play that stuff over in the outback?
Outback? You appear to have me confused with Mark
Erikson. I consider this to be a grave insult; I'm only an
asshole occasionally.
>
> And well, I know WotC too, and they may be cheap, but they're not THAT
> cheap.
You're not the one whose National Magic team are getting
$875 between them to fund their trip to Sydney.
Adrian Clark
You might also want to see someone about that maniacal laughter and
lightning thing. I think you can take a pill for that nowadays.
:)
I never "collected" the CCG anyway. Just got my starter pack and a
couple of boosters on that initial day. It was fun for a while no
matter how ugly the art was but just didn't hold my attention for long.
Jasper Janssen
<evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
>"Jasper Janssen" <jas...@insaneoc.com> wrote in message
>> Wot, people still play that stuff over in the outback?
>
>Outback? You appear to have me confused with Mark
>Erikson. I consider this to be a grave insult; I'm only an
>asshole occasionally.
So where do you live?
>> And well, I know WotC too, and they may be cheap, but they're not THAT
>> cheap.
>
>You're not the one whose National Magic team are getting
>$875 between them to fund their trip to Sydney.
Actually, they probably don't get anything (not much, anyway). And if
they're getting that little, that's mainly a function of them not
performing well. Plane tickets, WotC thinks, should be earned by
performing well, apparently.
Jasper
David Chapman
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:19:12 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
> >"Jasper Janssen" <jas...@insaneoc.com> wrote in message
>
> >> Wot, people still play that stuff over in the outback?
> >
> >Outback? You appear to have me confused with Mark
> >Erikson. I consider this to be a grave insult; I'm only an
> >asshole occasionally.
>
> So where do you live?
Scotland, as I recall mentioning the other week on this very
group. Not that I expect you to remember everything, because
God only knows *I* don't.
>
> >> And well, I know WotC too, and they may be cheap, but they're not THAT
> >> cheap.
> >
> >You're not the one whose National Magic team are getting
> >$875 between them to fund their trip to Sydney.
>
> Actually, they probably don't get anything (not much, anyway).
They get $875. This I know, because I'm a DCI judge myself
and they tell us these things. (Plus, I know all of last year's team.)
And if
> they're getting that little, that's mainly a function of them not
> performing well. Plane tickets, WotC thinks, should be earned by
> performing well, apparently.
No, it's a function of money spent in-country. Problem is, due to
WotC's policy regarding retailers, about 75% of the Scottish
expenditure on Magic is made outside Scotland. There's enough
of us, and enough tournaments run - especially the last year where
we've been booming - to bump us up at least one prize bracket,
but because WotC had the stupid Recommended Retailer policy
last year, we get shat on. It's annoying.
Jasper Janssen
>> So where do you live?
>
>Scotland, as I recall mentioning the other week on this very
>group. Not that I expect you to remember everything, because
>God only knows *I* don't.
Ah. Sorry. I probably missed that.
>> >You're not the one whose National Magic team are getting
>> >$875 between them to fund their trip to Sydney.
>>
>> Actually, they probably don't get anything (not much, anyway).
>
>They get $875. This I know, because I'm a DCI judge myself
>and they tell us these things. (Plus, I know all of last year's team.)
*My* national magic team is what that is referring to.
And frankly, the idea that scotland has its own "National" magic team is
downright ludicrous. It's bad enough you have separate teams in sports in
which tradition demands it so, now you're making these divides for brand
new competitions as well?
>No, it's a function of money spent in-country.
Really? Odd.
Jasper
David Chapman
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:31:05 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
> >"Jasper Janssen" <jas...@insaneoc.com> wrote in message
> >news:g9vh8uo19b2ouddc8...@4ax.com...
>
> >> So where do you live?
> >
> >Scotland, as I recall mentioning the other week on this very
> >group. Not that I expect you to remember everything, because
> >God only knows *I* don't.
>
> Ah. Sorry. I probably missed that.
>
> >> >You're not the one whose National Magic team are getting
> >> >$875 between them to fund their trip to Sydney.
> >>
> >> Actually, they probably don't get anything (not much, anyway).
> >
> >They get $875. This I know, because I'm a DCI judge myself
> >and they tell us these things. (Plus, I know all of last year's team.)
>
> *My* national magic team is what that is referring to.
Oh, right. You're Sweden or Norway, right? ISTR your lot
get $5000.
>
> And frankly, the idea that scotland has its own "National" magic team is
> downright ludicrous. It's bad enough you have separate teams in sports in
> which tradition demands it so, now you're making these divides for brand
> new competitions as well?
>
> >No, it's a function of money spent in-country.
>
> Really? Odd.
Hardly. The Pro Tour and World Championships are advertising
and promotion for the game. You don't spend more on ads than
you need.
Jasper Janssen
>> *My* national magic team is what that is referring to.
>
>Oh, right. You're Sweden or Norway, right? ISTR your lot
>get $5000.
.nl, as in the Netherlands. Oh well, us germanic/nordic types and you
commonwealth types are all alike right?
>> >No, it's a function of money spent in-country.
>>
>> Really? Odd.
>
>Hardly. The Pro Tour and World Championships are advertising
>and promotion for the game. You don't spend more on ads than
>you need.
Yes, but that theory would make for an *inverse* relation. The less money
spent incountry, the more is spent on advertising.
Jasper
David Chapman
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:59:48 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
> >"Jasper Janssen" <jas...@insaneoc.com> wrote in message
> >news:310j8uoq2fuf1a6e2...@4ax.com...
>
> >> *My* national magic team is what that is referring to.
> >
> >Oh, right. You're Sweden or Norway, right? ISTR your lot
> >get $5000.
>
> .nl, as in the Netherlands. Oh well, us germanic/nordic types and you
> commonwealth types are all alike right?
It'ss the ssequence of S's in your ssurname, Jasper; very
Nordic. And the Netherlands also get more than $1000.
>
> >> >No, it's a function of money spent in-country.
> >>
> >> Really? Odd.
> >
> >Hardly. The Pro Tour and World Championships are advertising
> >and promotion for the game. You don't spend more on ads than
> >you need.
>
> Yes, but that theory would make for an *inverse* relation. The less money
> spent incountry, the more is spent on advertising.
That makes sense when you're advertising to the masses, but
the Worlds are more like an incentive program for the serious
players; casual players don't make it to Nationals. In order to
be a serious player, one must spend more money.
Jasper Janssen
>It'ss the ssequence of S's in your ssurname, Jasper; very
>Nordic. And the Netherlands also get more than $1000.
Cool. Then again.. how many inhabitants does the autonomous country[1]
Scotland have?
>That makes sense when you're advertising to the masses, but
>the Worlds are more like an incentive program for the serious
>players; casual players don't make it to Nationals. In order to
>be a serious player, one must spend more money.
In that case, it's not advertising, it's a reward. Bonus miles, if you
will.
Jasper
[1] Apparently.
David Chapman
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:48:35 -0000, "David Chapman"
> <evil...@madasafish.com> wrote:
> >"Jasper Janssen" <jas...@insaneoc.com> wrote in message
>
> >It'ss the ssequence of S's in your ssurname, Jasper; very
> >Nordic. And the Netherlands also get more than $1000.
>
> Cool. Then again.. how many inhabitants does the autonomous country[1]
> Scotland have?
6.5 million, I think.
Oh, and we got our Nationals when we pointed out that
due to the proportional allocation system used for UK
Nationals, bad English players were qualifying while in
Scotland, the then highest-ranked player in the world
had finished eighth and failed to get in.