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I Blandford

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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Right then, this is my first mailing so God have mercy on my soul if I
write something offensive, stupid, boring or grammatically incorrect...

Anyway, a British SF magazine (SFX) had an interview with RJ a few months
back, circa Feb or Mar I think. In the interview he said a few things
which I haven't read in the FAQ or the newsgroup:

Firstly, in the event of his death his will states that his notes on TWoT
are to be destroyed and no-one is to complete the series for him.

Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled) has
already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning to
realise this.

Thirdly, in defeating the DO, the good guys can expect absolutely no help
off the creator, and no miracles will occur.

So when did the Final Battle begin then, book 1 chp1 or later, or earlier?


jeff krug

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you Blandford <ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk> wrote:
: Firstly, in the event of his death his will states that his notes on TWoT

: are to be destroyed and no-one is to complete the series for him.

I hope Murphy's Law does not explode onto the scene with any force. Oops I
think I just invited it in. Does Murphy's Law function like a vampire? Not
attacking until invited in?

: Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled) has


: already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning to
: realise this.

I would think that this is all a matter of definition. If Tarmon Gaidon
is simply the Dark One's struggle to break free then sure it has begun. If
perhaps the Dark One has conquered the Seanchan, the perhaps it cal be more
literal. My personal conception of Tarmon Gaidon is the moment Rand
approaches Shayol-Ghul (not in Tel aran'rhiod) Tarmon Gaidon has begun.

: Thirdly, in defeating the DO, the good guys can expect absolutely no help


: off the creator, and no miracles will occur.

With Mat's Luck, Perin's Wolves, and Rand's Badassedness (this word is
copyrighted by Hudson of Aliens) they won't need the Creator.

: So when did the Final Battle begin then, book 1 chp1 or later, or earlier?

By my definition not yet. By Jordan's probably the moment Rand used
saiden and began to be tainted. The majority of Tarmon Gaidon will
probably be fought out in Rand's own mind. The moment Rand turns the
battle will be over.

-krug-

--
Calvin: People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Hobbes: Isn't your pants' zipper supposed to be in the front?

Flavio J. Carrillo

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In <E8uJq...@fsa.bris.ac.uk> ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk (I Blandford)
writes:
>
>Right then, this is my first mailing so God have mercy on my soul if I
>write something offensive, stupid, boring or grammatically
>incorrect...

No need to worry about flames; your post is informative and well
written.

>Firstly, in the event of his death his will states that his notes on
>TWoT are to be destroyed and no-one is to complete the series for him.

This strikes me as inordinately selfish on Jordan's part. Not so much
because I want to see someone else complete the series, but because the
notes would be of great interest in of themselves. Might be cool to put
them together in a book.

>Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled)
>has already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning
>to realise this.

Interesting. The Final Battle, then, must be something of a misnomer:
not so much a battle as a campaign or series of events occurring in a
relatively small space of time. Which will include many battles within
it.

>Thirdly, in defeating the DO, the good guys can expect absolutely no
>help off the creator, and no miracles will occur.

Shucks, I'd already figured that one out. He did (or the Wheel did)
arrange to have Rand and a whole bunch of other important and useful
folks be around for Tarmon Gaidon. Presumably, that's good enough.

>So when did the Final Battle begin then, book 1 chp1 or later, or
>earlier?

The War against the Shadow has no Final or Beginning Battle. ;)
Seriously, even if the Good Guys win, the DO will be around to pester
future ages and try to worm his way out of the bore; I truly doubt he
can be destroyed in his entirety without taking the whole universe
along with him.

Flavio Carrillo

Matthew Hunter

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Apr 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/20/97
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On 18 Apr 1997 20:09:04 GMT,

Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>The War against the Shadow has no Final or Beginning Battle. ;)
>Seriously, even if the Good Guys win, the DO will be around to pester
>future ages and try to worm his way out of the bore; I truly doubt he
>can be destroyed in his entirety without taking the whole universe
>along with him.

Maybe he could be disbarred?

--
Matthew Hunter (mhun...@andrew.cmu.edu) (Amiga/Linux)
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~mhunter -- My Homepage
http://shadow.res.cmu.edu/WheelOfTime/ for the Wheel of Time FAQ


Flavio J. Carrillo

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Apr 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/20/97
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In <slrn5lj5l7...@pavilion.res.cmu.edu>


mhu...@pavilion.res.cmu.edu (Matthew Hunter) writes:
>
>On 18 Apr 1997 20:09:04 GMT,
>Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>The War against the Shadow has no Final or Beginning Battle. ;)
>>Seriously, even if the Good Guys win, the DO will be around to pester
>>future ages and try to worm his way out of the bore; I truly doubt he
>>can be destroyed in his entirety without taking the whole universe
>>along with him.
>
>Maybe he could be disbarred?

The Dark One _runs_ the bar. Why, he even swore me in.

(Actually, I was sworn in by an Illinois pol masquarading as a State
Supreme Court Justice by the name of Bilandic. I'm pretty sure that he
was a Darkfriend, however...)

Flavio Carrillo

Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.


Dylan F. Alexander

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Apr 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/20/97
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In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,

flav...@ix.netcom.com(Flavio J. Carrillo ) wrote:

}Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.

I've chased an Amy before, and I definitely don't recommend it.

--
Dylan Alexander
dy...@tamu.edu

Nathan Lundblad

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Apr 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/20/97
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In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,

Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.
>

Agreed. Saw _Grosse Pointe Blank_ the same night; that
was one of the most funny, disturbing, and generally cool
that I've seen in a while. What I'm wondering is where John
Cusack has been all this time? Dan Aykroyd makes a fat, balding,
and hopefully career-saving appearance as a leader of a hitman's
union. Check it out.

So anyone been out to see _Kissed_ at all?

Movie!Peeve: The rereleased, remastered _Das Boot_.

--
Nathan Lundblad lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu
Berkeley Astronomy http://www.ugastro.berkeley.edu/~lundblad
ninety-six below the wave

Aaron Bergman

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In article <5jdk6c$q0r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:

:So anyone been out to see _Kissed_ at all?

Ummm, no. Not my cup of tea.

I'm still waiting for The Fifth Element.

Aaron
--
Aaron Bergman -- aber...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
<http://pantheon.yale.edu/~abergman/>
"Smithers, I believe this dog has been in Skull and Bones."

Karl-Johan Noren

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In <5jdk6c$q0r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:

> Movie!Peeve: The rereleased, remastered _Das Boot_.

Isn't that running at three or four hours? Or am I thinking
about the TV version?

--
Karl-Johan "Gareth Bryne" Norén (Noren with acute e)
k-j-...@dsv.su.se -- http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
- To believe people are as stupid as one believes is
stupider than one can believe

Kurt Montandon

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lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:

>In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,
>Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.
>>
>
>Agreed. Saw _Grosse Pointe Blank_ the same night; that
>was one of the most funny, disturbing, and generally cool
>that I've seen in a while.

It bothers me a bit that I might be similarly uncomfortable at
my twentieth (tenth is a little too soon) year High-School
reunion.

"What do you do these days?"

"I hire myself out to petty dictators for cash. How 'bout
yourself?"

Favorite line:

"No, no, no. Psychopaths kill people for no reason. I do it
for the money."

>Movie!Peeve: The rereleased, remastered _Das Boot_.

Not the six-hour version, though I'm not sure whether that's
good or bad. I believe it it's been cut to around 201 minutes,
IIRC.


Kurt Montandon

--
". . . all of these people are frauds, perverts, and
homophobic lesbian religious zealots without any socially
redeeming qualities and who smell of elderberry wine,
hemp, vicks vapo-rub, and propholactic residue."
-Mark Loy

Bob the Soul Crusher

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On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:37:32 GMT, ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk (I Blandford)
wrote:

<snip>

>Firstly, in the event of his death his will states that his notes on TWoT
>are to be destroyed and no-one is to complete the series for him.

I heard the hard drive would be formatted 4 times in sucession. You'd
think that someone else wouldn't finish the series, but that his notes
and stuff would be released. Maybe he's bluffing.

>Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled) has
>already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning to
>realise this.
>

>Thirdly, in defeating the DO, the good guys can expect absolutely no help
>off the creator, and no miracles will occur.

Does an eclipse qualify as a miracle?

>So when did the Final Battle begin then, book 1 chp1 or later, or earlier?

I think it was when Rand proclaimed himself. But thats just me.
--

"If ignorance is bliss
then knock the smile off my face"
RATM

From the infinetely cluttered desk of Bob, the Soul Crusher.

jbr...@chem.wisc.edu

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> >Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled)
> >has already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning
> >to realise this.
>
> Interesting. The Final Battle, then, must be something of a misnomer:
> not so much a battle as a campaign or series of events occurring in a
> relatively small space of time. Which will include many battles within
> it.

Well, that's if you assume by "battle" RJ means a bunch of people with
weapons beating on each other. Battle could also mean, say, Rand
fighting to keep his sanity. Is that really Lews Therin in his head?
Or is it the DO battling Rand for his sanity? If Rand can hold it
together in some final concerted attack on his mind, is THAT the last
battle? If you think about it, the last Last Battle was essentially
that. Lews Therin finally lost when he was driven crazy and killed his
family.

I'm not saying that's what's going on, but I think that we need to be
open to the fact that RJ might not mean the type of battle that he's
leading us to believe he means.

Jeff

Nathan Lundblad

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Apr 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/20/97
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In article <abergman-200...@net162-150.student.yale.edu>,
Aaron Bergman <aber...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
>In article <5jdk6c$q0r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,

>lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:
>
>:So anyone been out to see _Kissed_ at all?
>
>Ummm, no. Not my cup of tea.

Heh.

>I'm still waiting for The Fifth Element.

ObTuse: Boron?

Kate Nepveu

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Apr 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/21/97
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Rumor has it that lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad)
said:

>In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,
>Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.

Can someone tell me just how this movie is being promoted? At the
theater this weekend, fully a third of the people who bought tickets
were somewhere over 60 [1]. From what I understand of the plot,
that's not a demographic group that I'd expect to see it.

>Agreed. Saw _Grosse Pointe Blank_ the same night; that
>was one of the most funny, disturbing, and generally cool
>that I've seen in a while.

I'm going to see this sometime this week, and I'm glad to hear good
recommendations (as I've heard mixed from some other people.) I
really want to like this one...

[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares
about where I'm getting my information.

Kate

"Most days it's just stumbling around in the dark with the rest
of creation, smashing into things and wondering why it hurts."
--Lois McMaster Bujold, _Shards of Honor_

huisman

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Apr 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/21/97
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Flavio J. Carrillo wrote:
>
> In <E8uJq...@fsa.bris.ac.uk> ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk (I Blandford)
> writes:

<snip;>

> >Firstly, in the event of his death his will states that his notes on
> >TWoT are to be destroyed and no-one is to complete the series for him.
>

> This strikes me as inordinately selfish on Jordan's part. Not so much
> because I want to see someone else complete the series, but because the
> notes would be of great interest in of themselves. Might be cool to put
> them together in a book.

I strongly disagree. Part of the fun of the series (and a lot of other
books, including non SF&F) is the large number of things that are
unclear, just hinted at or profecied. Reading RJ's notes would make a
lot of these things clear, but it would also show which parts of the
background were not well worked out. It is like looking so closely to a
maquette that you can see the lumps of glue, the paint, the pieces that
just didn't fit and the crude details. It makes the overall picture
less.
I don't know if you have read the large number of books published by
Chrisopher Tolkien about his father's books. It is in fact a stack of
unfinished things, vague notes and a lot of previous versions of
especially TLotR. I read some of it, and found it interesting at first,
but *hated* it when I afterwards read TLotR again. Since I knew part of
the drafts, a lot of the glamour of the published version had been lost.
I knew how thin and inconsistent the layer of mythology and legend
behind the main story was, and I knew which previous scenes existed in
the main story that were later discarded.
I think that we, as readers, should enjoy the books as they are, and
not fret about the stack of extra information in RJ's notes. I hope they
get burned after the series is finished.

--
Hans Huisman
Wageningen Agricultural University, Dept. of Soil Science and Geology
hans.h...@aio.beng.wau.nl

Nathan Lundblad

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In article <335a6bad...@news.ucdavis.edu>,

Kurt Montandon <kmmon...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
>Favorite line:
>
>"No, no, no. Psychopaths kill people for no reason. I do it
>for the money."
>

"What am I going to tell these people? Oh, yeah, I killed
the President of Paraguay with a fork?"

"The Army thought I had certain...flexible morality."

God, that was an amusing movie. Add to the recommendation
hilarious supporing roles in Cusack's secretary as well
as his therapist.

Has anyone seen _8 Heads in a Duffel Bag_? Looks like a
possible catch, but then again, it has Joe Pesci.

Bob the Soul Crusher

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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
wrote:

>
>Rumor has it that lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad)
>said:
>
>>In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,
>>Flavio J. Carrillo <flav...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>>Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.
>
>Can someone tell me just how this movie is being promoted? At the
>theater this weekend, fully a third of the people who bought tickets
>were somewhere over 60 [1]. From what I understand of the plot,
>that's not a demographic group that I'd expect to see it.

All the ads I've seen have been in Rolling Stone/sci-fi mags or on tv.
And of course at the View Askew web page. Kevin Smith kicks major
ass.

>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares
>about where I'm getting my information.

Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.

Matthew Roderick Bates

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Apr 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/21/97
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Grosse Point Blank was fantastic, I haven't seen a better staged scene
than Martin pouring the scotch on his fathers grave in years.

Just saw 8 heads* tonite, it was ok, but still better than Double Team,
but then again, oral surgery is better than Double team, so that isn't
any kind of reccomendation.

--

"Still crazy after all the electroshock."

These opinions are mine and are for sale. Inquire within for prices.

Matthew R. Bates
Production Manager
Shakespeare in the Ruins

linda

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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hans.h...@aio.beng.wau.nl writes:

> I don't know if you have read the large number of books published by
>Chrisopher Tolkien about his father's books. It is in fact a stack of
>unfinished things, vague notes and a lot of previous versions of
>especially TLotR. I read some of it, and found it interesting at first,
>but *hated* it when I afterwards read TLotR again. Since I knew part of
>the drafts, a lot of the glamour of the published version had been lost.
>I knew how thin and inconsistent the layer of mythology and legend
>behind the main story was, and I knew which previous scenes existed in
>the main story that were later discarded.
> I think that we, as readers, should enjoy the books as they are, and
>not fret about the stack of extra information in RJ's notes. I hope they
>get burned after the series is finished.

I have read most of the Christopher Tolkien books, and I loved them and felt
that they enriched the LotR series for me. I think that I would feel similar
regarding tWoT. While I think that you have valid feelings about this type of
"historical" information about fantasy worlds, your opinions do not agree with
mine, and you would be reducing my enjoyment of the series by denying me the
opportunity to read the background info (assuming that it would be released).

I hope that the notes ARE published after the series is finished, but I would
recommend that you not read the notes if you feel that will comprimise the
story for you. I will read them as soon as (not to mention IF !!) they are
published.

linda

Kate Nepveu

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Apr 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/22/97
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Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
said:

>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
>wrote:

>>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares


>>about where I'm getting my information.

>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.

Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.

Brian D. Ritchie

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
>>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)

>>>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares


>>>about where I'm getting my information.

Fun job when you include the perks, but the pay sucks. I did enjoy the
flexible scheduling, though.

>>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.

>Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.

No, no, no. The jobs, in order of preference, are projectionist,
usher, ticket sales then food sales. Being projectionist is great because
you don't have much to do and you don't have to deal with the annoying
customers. Ushering is good because you get to move around and don't deal
with too many customers. Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers. Working
the concession stand has absolutely no redeeming values and should be
avoided at all cost.

I will say that these descriptions are only for the current multiplex
theaters. Small theaters can be different because the work is distributed
differently. Also, the physical features of the theater make a
difference. Some ticket sales use a closed box while others use just a
separate counter. Some projection booths are split into pieces while
others are all one piece. Finally, the ownership matters because there
are different policies for hoe certain jobs, especially ushering, are
performed.
--
Brian Ritchie
br...@prism.gatech.edu

I Blandford

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jbr...@chem.wisc.edu wrote:
: > Interesting. The Final Battle, then, must be something of a misnomer:

: > not so much a battle as a campaign or series of events occurring in a
: > relatively small space of time. Which will include many battles within
: > it.
:
: Well, that's if you assume by "battle" RJ means a bunch of people with
: weapons beating on each other. Battle could also mean, say, Rand
: fighting to keep his sanity. Is that really Lews Therin in his head?
: Or is it the DO battling Rand for his sanity? If Rand can hold it
: together in some final concerted attack on his mind, is THAT the last
: battle? If you think about it, the last Last Battle was essentially
: that. Lews Therin finally lost when he was driven crazy and killed his
: family.
:
: I'm not saying that's what's going on, but I think that we need to be
: open to the fact that RJ might not mean the type of battle that he's
: leading us to believe he means.
:
: Jeff

That's the feeling I get, everyone in the books assumes the Last Battle is
going to occur with an army attacking Shayol Ghul. I have a suspicion that
the Way of the Leaf and the Song will play a part. Perrin looks set to
converting. (Choosing the hammer instead of the axe?).

As for the prophecy of the Horn being tooted at the Last Battle, well it
has been blown. With both the Horn blown and Rand proclaiming himself
Dragon could Tarmon Gai'don have started at Toman Head?

Also has anyone else noticed that the Dragon Banner is rather similar to
the Welsh Flag, which could mean that Rand is Tom Jones reborn. :)

Bob the Soul Crusher

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On 23 Apr 1997 04:55:24 -0400, br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D.
Ritchie) wrote:

>
>Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>>Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
>>>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
>
>>>>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares
>>>>about where I'm getting my information.
>
>Fun job when you include the perks, but the pay sucks. I did enjoy the
>flexible scheduling, though.

I'd be doing it for the perks. The perks _would_ be my pay, with my
pay being a perk, if you know what I mean.

>>>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.
>
>>Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.
>
>No, no, no. The jobs, in order of preference, are projectionist,
>usher, ticket sales then food sales. Being projectionist is great because
>you don't have much to do and you don't have to deal with the annoying
>customers. Ushering is good because you get to move around and don't deal
>with too many customers. Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
>projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers. Working
>the concession stand has absolutely no redeeming values and should be
>avoided at all cost.

And if your a projectionist, you get to watch the movie. Sure, this
would get old after a while, but it'd be fun for a while.

Hell, I'd be a jizz-mopper if I got a resonable number of free
tickets. Well, maybe not a jizz-mopper, but something like that.
Damn, I love the movies.

Jon Travaglia

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:20:35 GMT, kmmon...@ucdavis.edu (Kurt
Montandon), claimed they were told by the aliens that:

>"No, no, no. Psychopaths kill people for no reason. I do it
>for the money."
>

"Murderer? Well, that's a harsh word. I prefer to think of myself as a
'mortality technician.'" (3pts)

Jon Travaglia

"Oblivious to the season or the weather or the signs that said 'Keep Out',
Dick limped across the uplands and the downs, scattering flocks of
sheep before him and putting the fear of God into the corn circle makers."

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:
>Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>>Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
>>>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)

>>>>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares
>>>>about where I'm getting my information.

>Fun job when you include the perks, but the pay sucks. I did enjoy the
>flexible scheduling, though.

Our pay isn't bad, though they have an annoying tendency to hire at
more than what current employees are making...

>>>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.

>>Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.

>No, no, no. The jobs, in order of preference, are projectionist,
>usher, ticket sales then food sales. Being projectionist is great because
>you don't have much to do and you don't have to deal with the annoying
>customers.

For some reason, I was under the impression that was unionized. At
any rate, they don't have kids doing that where I am.

>Ushering is good because you get to move around and don't deal
>with too many customers.

Yeah, but you get stuck with the crap jobs. Sometimes literally.

>Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
>projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers.

And you get to sit.

>Working
>the concession stand has absolutely no redeeming values and should be
>avoided at all cost.

Agreed. (They want to cross-train all workers. How thrilled are the
cashiers with this?)

> Finally, the ownership matters because there
>are different policies for hoe certain jobs, especially ushering, are
>performed.

Looks that way.

Kate


One out of four people is mentally unbalanced. If your three closest
friends seem okay, you're the one.
--Ann Landers

Withers

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I Blandford (ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk) wrote:

: Also has anyone else noticed that the Dragon Banner is rather similar to


: the Welsh Flag, which could mean that Rand is Tom Jones reborn. :)

It's not unusual to be loved by more than one
It's not unusual to balefire anyone
But every time I fight against the Dark One
It's not unusual to see me die
I don't know why


Matt Withers
mwit...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
"I don't care if I'm right or wrong or if my typewriter
can spell" - E. Costello

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad)
said:

>Agreed. Saw _Grosse Pointe Blank_ the same night; that


>was one of the most funny, disturbing, and generally cool

>that I've seen in a while. What I'm wondering is where John
>Cusack has been all this time?

He's been in _Bullets Over Broadway_, among other things.

Dan Aykroyd makes a fat, balding,
>and hopefully career-saving appearance as a leader of a hitman's
>union. Check it out.

Saw it tonight, and found it quite entertaining. But something's
bugging me--I've seen the white NSA guy somewhere before, quite
recently, and cannot place him. Help, pop culture mavens?

Brian D. Ritchie

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Bob the Soul Crusher <soul_c...@geocities.com> wrote:
>On 23 Apr 1997 04:55:24 -0400, br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D.
>Ritchie) wrote:

>>Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>>>Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
>>>>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)

>>>>>[1] I have a part-time job at a movie theater, in case anyone cares
>>>>>about where I'm getting my information.

>>Fun job when you include the perks, but the pay sucks. I did enjoy the
>>flexible scheduling, though.

>I'd be doing it for the perks. The perks _would_ be my pay, with my


>pay being a perk, if you know what I mean.

Yes, I know. Free tickets are cool, especially in summer when you don't
have much better to do. Free popcorn, nachos and drinks were nice, too.

>>>>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.

>>>Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.

>>No, no, no. The jobs, in order of preference, are projectionist,
>>usher, ticket sales then food sales. Being projectionist is great because

>And if your a projectionist, you get to watch the movie. Sure, this


>would get old after a while, but it'd be fun for a while.

If you are really doing your job, you don't get to watch the movie unless
you use really old equipment. The movie reels are assembled prior to
showing it, so you wander from projector to projector and then theater to
theater checking for problems. You do get paid to stay after closing and
preview movies to make sure they were properly assembled. This can be
either good or bad.

>Hell, I'd be a jizz-mopper if I got a resonable number of free
>tickets.

That would be an usher. HTH!
--
Brian Ritchie
br...@prism.gatech.edu

Julie A Hwang

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Kate Nepveu wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad)
> said:
>
> >Agreed. Saw _Grosse Pointe Blank_ the same night; that
> >was one of the most funny, disturbing, and generally cool
> >that I've seen in a while. What I'm wondering is where John
> >Cusack has been all this time?
>

> Saw it tonight, and found it quite entertaining. But something's
> bugging me--I've seen the white NSA guy somewhere before, quite
> recently, and cannot place him. Help, pop culture mavens?
>
> Kate
>


The white NSA guy was played by Hank Azaria. He is currently dating
Helen Hunt and has a recurring role on Mad About You as the dog walker.
Oh, he also played Aggedor, the house boy, in the Bird Cage. That's
the only thing I can think of him being in recently where you could
actually see him. He's on TV every week as the voice of several
characters on the Simpsons.

Julie

Cy

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In article <336072ED...@OUTGOING.MIT.EDU>, Julie A Hwang
<jhw...@OUTGOING.MIT.EDU> wrote:

[snip various things about _Grosse Pointe Blank_, which I want to see just
for the soundtrack...ah, goofy 80's nostalgia...]

> The white NSA guy was played by Hank Azaria. He is currently dating
> Helen Hunt and has a recurring role on Mad About You as the dog walker.
> Oh, he also played Aggedor, the house boy, in the Bird Cage. That's
> the only thing I can think of him being in recently where you could
> actually see him. He's on TV every week as the voice of several
> characters on the Simpsons.

I think he was in _Quiz Show_ as a sniveling yes-man. Anyone remember
"Herman's Head?" He was the skirt-chasing best friend.

-Cy
(Why do I remember that?)

--
http://u.arizona.edu/~ccb/ * c...@u.arizona.edu

Brian D. Ritchie

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Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:
>>Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>>>Rumor has it that soul_c...@geocities.com (Bob the Soul Crusher)
>>>>On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:37:08 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)

[working at a movie theater]

>>Fun job when you include the perks, but the pay sucks. I did enjoy the
>>flexible scheduling, though.

>Our pay isn't bad, though they have an annoying tendency to hire at


>more than what current employees are making...

Well, your opinion of the pay will probably get worse as you get older. I
always found that the only justifications for the pay scale were that you
really didn't work that hard and that you got a lot of perks. Maybe your
theater just pays better than mine did, but it can't be much better if
it's a chain.

>>>>Damn, I wanna work at a movie theater.
>
>>>Only if you get to sell tickets. Trust me.
>
>>No, no, no. The jobs, in order of preference, are projectionist,
>>usher, ticket sales then food sales. Being projectionist is great because

>>you don't have much to do and you don't have to deal with the annoying
>>customers.

>For some reason, I was under the impression that was unionized. At
>any rate, they don't have kids doing that where I am.

There are union projectionists. They get great pay, but you have to
apprentice and such to become one. However, not all theaters use union
projectionists. It may be partly your location, but most projectionists
are not unionized from what I found.

>>Ushering is good because you get to move around and don't deal
>>with too many customers.

>Yeah, but you get stuck with the crap jobs. Sometimes literally.

True. However, this didn't bother me as much as working in the box. You
rarely had to clean anything nasty and you could always avoid it if you
used your head.

>>Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
>>projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers.

>And you get to sit.

This was usually a negative for me. I usually moved the stool and worked
standing up unless I was tired. I preferred to be moving around and doing
things. Besides, I *really* didn't like dealing with customers for long
stretches of time.

>>Working the concession stand has absolutely no redeeming values and
>>should be avoided at all cost.

>Agreed. (They want to cross-train all workers. How thrilled are the
>cashiers with this?)

They hate it, of course. People labelled as cashiers get paid more to do
less than concession workers. Why would they want to give up good shifts
to work a worse job? Cashiers don't stay as late either, although this
can be good or bad depending on how poor you are. If it makes you feel
better, all theaters want to cross-train. Most managers barely have the
intelligence to make a schedule, so having all your workers with the same
skills makes it easier. Besides, if a cashier calls in sick it can be
hard to fill the shift otherwise.

>> Finally, the ownership matters because there are different policies

>>for how certain jobs, especially ushering, are performed.

>Looks that way.

For instance, you wouldn't have been an usher at my theater because they
didn't work young women as ushers. Very few people complained about this,
certainly not the guys who didn't want to work concession, and there were
some feeble reasons given as to why this was true. It worked out for the
best, though, because all the young women who did usher would always cop
out of all the bad jobs. Coworkers get sick of not having an equal split
of the unpleasant tasks.
--
Brian Ritchie
br...@prism.gatech.edu

John S. Novak

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On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 02:31:47 -0700, Cy <c...@u.arizona.edu> wrote:

>> The white NSA guy was played by Hank Azaria. He is currently dating
>> Helen Hunt and has a recurring role on Mad About You as the dog walker.

>I think he was in _Quiz Show_ as a sniveling yes-man. Anyone remember


>"Herman's Head?" He was the skirt-chasing best friend.

That would be Hank Azaria. I am utterly astounded and mind-boggled to
learn that _that's_ the dog-walker, since I'd been trying to figure
out who he fuck he was for months, now. That's Hank Azaria?

The weird thing is, that show had a pretty good cast.

Hank Azaria is also many voices on the Simpsons. Yeardley Smith
(Louise) is also Lisa on the Simpsons, and was a supporting character
on a little-known (but pretty funny, for the first few years)
cable sitcom called "Brothers" on Showtime. Jason Bernard (Bracken)
is a fairly well-known character actor. Whatshisname (Crawford) was
Colonel Flagg on MASH. And I think Molly Hagan (Angel) was the first Voorta
that Sisko encountered in Deep Space Nine-- I thought she'd hae made a
better running enemy than that reincarnated idiot hanging around Gul
Dukat.

(Voorta are minions, dammit! Jem'Hedar are lackeys. Got it?)

It's depressing that I remembered all this off the top of my head.

--
John S. Novak, III j...@cris.com
The Humblest Man on the Net

Richard Webb

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In article <E8uJq...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, ch3...@ncs.bris.ac.uk (I Blandford)
wrote:

> Right then, this is my first mailing so God have mercy on my soul if I
> write something offensive, stupid, boring or grammatically incorrect...


>>
> Secondly, The Final Battle (Tarmon Gai-don or however it's spelled) has
> already started but only now (book 7) are the characters beginning to
> realise this.
>>

> So when did the Final Battle begin then, book 1 chp1 or later, or earlier?

Hmmm, Jordan must use a different dictionary than I use. I think we can
safely say that the final WAR started where you (sarcastically I assume)
suggest, but the final battle could not have started so soon and I am
guessing it still hasn't started. It would seem to me that the war is the
showdowns between Rand and each of the forsaken/chosen (which started in
book 1) with each showdown being a battle, but unless Sammael is still
alive and Sammael is the last forsaken to be killed (with no battle at all
with the DO), then I would suggest that the final battle has not begun yet.


OTOH, it may be that the final battle is between Rand and Lews Therin
Tellamon--in which case the final battle did start in book 1 but it is a
very long a drawn-out battle, really more like a war of its own with a
plethora of different battles. Hmmm, maybe that's the clue Jordan's trying
to give us ;-)

--
Richard Webb
rlw...@puc.edu
http://www.puc.edu/Faculty/Richard_Webb/

MYSTIKMIS

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>>Also has anyone else noticed that the Dragon Banner is rather similar to
the Welsh Flag, which could mean that Rand is Tom Jones reborn. :)<<

Nah, he's easily a foot taller!

Also, the Dragon Banner is also very like Chinese dragon figures, so does
that mean Rand likes WonTons? :}

Alice

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:
>Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>>Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:

[movie theaters]


>>Our pay isn't bad, though they have an annoying tendency to hire at
>>more than what current employees are making...

>Well, your opinion of the pay will probably get worse as you get older. I
>always found that the only justifications for the pay scale were that you
>really didn't work that hard and that you got a lot of perks. Maybe your
>theater just pays better than mine did, but it can't be much better if
>it's a chain.

I should have been more clear: it's not bad pay for this kind of job.
It's not _good_ pay overall by any means.

>>>Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
>>>projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers.

>>And you get to sit.

>This was usually a negative for me. I usually moved the stool and worked
>standing up unless I was tired. I preferred to be moving around and doing
>things. Besides, I *really* didn't like dealing with customers for long
>stretches of time.

<shrug> My dear, sweet child, that's what I do. It's what I _live_
for. <1 pt.> That is, I'm used to it...

>>>Working the concession stand has absolutely no redeeming values and
>>>should be avoided at all cost.

>>Agreed. (They want to cross-train all workers. How thrilled are the
>>cashiers with this?)

>They hate it, of course. People labelled as cashiers get paid more to do
>less than concession workers. Why would they want to give up good shifts
>to work a worse job?

'Twas rhetorical. One of my co-workers has a long-standing promise to
quit if they make her work stand...

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that Julie A Hwang <jhw...@OUTGOING.MIT.EDU> said:
>Kate Nepveu wrote:

[_Grosse Pointe Blank_]


>> Saw it tonight, and found it quite entertaining. But something's
>> bugging me--I've seen the white NSA guy somewhere before, quite
>> recently, and cannot place him. Help, pop culture mavens?

>The white NSA guy was played by Hank Azaria. He is currently dating


>Helen Hunt and has a recurring role on Mad About You as the dog walker.

>Oh, he also played Aggedor, the house boy, in the Bird Cage.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I saw a portion of _The Bird Cage_
last week. No wonder I didn't make the connection, since the
characters were hardly similar...

*bunnyTshens*

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Kate Nepveu (kne...@world.std.coma) wrote:

: Rumor has it that Julie A Hwang <jhw...@OUTGOING.MIT.EDU> said:
: >Kate Nepveu wrote:
: [_Grosse Pointe Blank_]
: >> Saw it tonight, and found it quite entertaining. But something's
: >> bugging me--I've seen the white NSA guy somewhere before, quite
: >> recently, and cannot place him. Help, pop culture mavens?
: >The white NSA guy was played by Hank Azaria. He is currently dating
: >Helen Hunt and has a recurring role on Mad About You as the dog walker.
: >Oh, he also played Aggedor, the house boy, in the Bird Cage.
: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I saw a portion of _The Bird Cage_
: last week. No wonder I didn't make the connection, since the
: characters were hardly similar...

Mr. Azaria also does some of the voices on _The Simpsons_ as well as
having a featured role in the sadly underrated Fox sitcom _Herman's Head_.

--Tshen
Qodaxti Institute, 87th stratum


Richard K. Bollinger

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On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:25:52 -0400, aber...@pantheon.yale.edu (Aaron
Bergman) wrote:

>In article <5jdk6c$q0r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu (Nathan Lundblad) wrote:
>
>:So anyone been out to see _Kissed_ at all?
>
>Ummm, no. Not my cup of tea.
>

>I'm still waiting for The Fifth Element.

Bruce Willis? Blech!

The search for boron?

Blech!

Surely you jest!

--
Richard K. Bollinger

Of course, he _was_ kidding...


Richard K. Bollinger

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On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:23:03 -1200, dy...@tamu.edu (Dylan F.
Alexander) wrote:

>In article <5jd9pp$e...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,


>flav...@ix.netcom.com(Flavio J. Carrillo ) wrote:
>
>}Who saw _Chasing Amy_ last night and highly recommends it.
>

>I've chased an Amy before, and I definitely don't recommend it.

Yeah, well..

You've chased me before...

--
Richard k. Bollinger

Bite me, Dylan! Bite me now! Yes! Oh, yes!


Jordan Coldham

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jbr...@chem.wisc.edu wrote:

>Well, that's if you assume by "battle" RJ means a bunch of people with
>weapons beating on each other. Battle could also mean, say, Rand
>fighting to keep his sanity. Is that really Lews Therin in his head?
>Or is it the DO battling Rand for his sanity? If Rand can hold it
>together in some final concerted attack on his mind, is THAT the last
>battle? If you think about it, the last Last Battle was essentially
>that. Lews Therin finally lost when he was driven crazy and killed his
>family.

>I'm not saying that's what's going on, but I think that we need to be
>open to the fact that RJ might not mean the type of battle that he's
>leading us to believe he means.


Okay, now I'm getting confused...

The way I always looked at it was, yeah, The Last Battle was indeed
some kind of apocalyptic clash (ie. people "beating on eachother"),
but all the events we've seen in the books thus far were various
fulfillments of the Karaethon Cycle, which is the prelude to the main
event.
Does that take on events fit, or am I way out in left field thinking
this?


Brian D. Ritchie

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Nathan Lundblad <lund...@ugastro.berkeley.edu> wrote:

>So anyone been out to see _Kissed_ at all?

I saw it this weekend. It was interesting, but different from what I had
expected. If you aren't bothered by the concept of necrophilia, it is
quite enjoyable. Still, it probably isn't worth first run theater prices.
Rent it when it comes out on video.
--
Brian Ritchie
br...@prism.gatech.edu

Dorit Koren

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Kate Nepveu wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:
> >Kate Nepveu <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
> >>Rumor has it that br...@prism.gatech.edu (Brian D. Ritchie) said:
>
> [movie theaters]
> >>Our pay isn't bad, though they have an annoying tendency to hire at
> >>more than what current employees are making...
>
> >Well, your opinion of the pay will probably get worse as you get older. I
> >always found that the only justifications for the pay scale were that you
> >really didn't work that hard and that you got a lot of perks. Maybe your
> >theater just pays better than mine did, but it can't be much better if
> >it's a chain.
>
> I should have been more clear: it's not bad pay for this kind of job.
> It's not _good_ pay overall by any means.
>
> >>>Selling tickets is a pale imitation of being
> >>>projectionist becasue you at least get to avoid your coworkers.
>
> >>And you get to sit.
>
> >This was usually a negative for me. I usually moved the stool and worked
> >standing up unless I was tired. I preferred to be moving around and doing
> >things. Besides, I *really* didn't like dealing with customers for long
> >stretches of time.
>
> <shrug> My dear, sweet child, that's what I do. It's what I _live_
> for. <1 pt.> That is, I'm used to it...

"To help unfortunate merfolk...like yourself!" So, Kate, are you
calling Brian a love-sick (or is that lust-sick) merman? Setting
yourself up as an octopus woman?

Dorit.

Richard K. Bollinger

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Kate Nepveu

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No, I'm not, though Ursula is a much more interesting character than
the Little Mermaid... I just like the quote.

Scottina B Good

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On Sun, 04 May 1997 14:50:25 -0400, Dorit Koren <dk...@cornell.edu>
wrote:

>Kate Nepveu wrote:

<snip working at a movie theater>


>> <shrug> My dear, sweet child, that's what I do. It's what I _live_
>> for. <1 pt.> That is, I'm used to it...
>
>"To help unfortunate merfolk...like yourself!" So, Kate, are you
>calling Brian a love-sick (or is that lust-sick) merman? Setting
>yourself up as an octopus woman?

*huge grin* I _knew_ we were friends for a reason! That's my
favorite Disney song!! Of course she's not setting herself up as an
octopus woman. She's reaffirming the fact that she's evil. Sheesh.

Scottina

Phil Johnston

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Rochard M. Boye' said something along the lines of:
> > [munch discussions of Disney songs]
> >
> > > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> > > from the _Aristocats_.
> >
> > Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.
>
> I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
>
> Anyone wanna field this?
>
[Balefired another sig]

I was thinking either 101 Dalmations or Lady and the Tramp. They were
the cats that belonged to some evil woman. But that's okay. I personally
think Disney sucks after Little Mermade. Now they are going to have a
movie about a singing and dancing Hercules. I wonder if he's going to
kill his wife and kids and Rape women and rip people to shreds? Prolly
not. *sigh of discontent and longing for REAL stories, not some watered
down for kids Disney movie*

Later.Phil.

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
>On Sun, 04 May 1997 14:50:25 -0400, Dorit Koren <dk...@cornell.edu>
>wrote:

["Poor Unfortunate Souls"]


>>"To help unfortunate merfolk...like yourself!" So, Kate, are you
>>calling Brian a love-sick (or is that lust-sick) merman? Setting
>>yourself up as an octopus woman?

>*huge grin* I _knew_ we were friends for a reason! That's my
>favorite Disney song!! Of course she's not setting herself up as an
>octopus woman. She's reaffirming the fact that she's evil. Sheesh.

You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.

Kate

"A thousand innocent people die every day, but a millionaire's
pet gets detonated and you're marked for life."
--_Grosse Pointe Blank_

Rob Strong

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Kate Nepveu wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
> >On Sun, 04 May 1997 14:50:25 -0400, Dorit Koren <dk...@cornell.edu>
> >wrote:
>
> ["Poor Unfortunate Souls"]
> >>"To help unfortunate merfolk...like yourself!" So, Kate, are you
> >>calling Brian a love-sick (or is that lust-sick) merman? Setting
> >>yourself up as an octopus woman?
>
> >*huge grin* I _knew_ we were friends for a reason! That's my
> >favorite Disney song!! Of course she's not setting herself up as an
> >octopus woman. She's reaffirming the fact that she's evil. Sheesh.
>
> You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
> "Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.

"Circle of Life" is a good song. (the version Elton John sings
anyway) However, hands down, the all time greatest Disney song
_ever_ is "Hellfire" from the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Rob "99% Fat Free" Strong

Richard M. Boye'

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Rob Strong wrote:
>
> Kate Nepveu wrote:
> >
> > Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
> >
> > ["Poor Unfortunate Souls"]
> > >>"To help unfortunate merfolk...like yourself!" So, Kate, are you
> > >>calling Brian a love-sick (or is that lust-sick) merman? Setting
> > >>yourself up as an octopus woman?
> >
> > You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
> > "Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.
>
> "Circle of Life" is a good song. (the version Elton John sings
> anyway) However, hands down, the all time greatest Disney song
> _ever_ is "Hellfire" from the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
from the _Aristocats_.

Although, anything from the _Little Mermaid_ is very entertaing. I think
that the songs all lost some of their zip from that point on. The
animation may have gotten a little better, although none of them (except
possibly Pocahontas) have the same elegant style as the earlier stories
like _Pinochio_, or _Snow White_. But the songs have all gone downhill.
"Colors of the Wind?" Blagh! "A Whole New World?" Ugh! "Be Our Guest?"
Yech! "Circle of Life?" Gag! "Hakuna Mattata?" Barf! All hippy, new-age,
John-Tesh-esque, Yanni-istic, feel good, politically correct warbling.


I will listen to "Under The Sea" anytime! I love that song.(1)


Rich "The Slugs Are Cutting A Rug" Boye'


--
Richard M. Boye' * wa...@webspan.net
http://www.webspan.net/~waldo
"Some men lead lives of quiet desperation.
My desperation makes a pathetic whining sound."

1) which, might have somthing to do with why I painted my room to look
like an aquarium (teal walls, fish and sea weed on the walls ripples on
the ceiling). Plus I have one of those rotating ripple lights. It looks
amazing when I'm drunk.

Rob Strong

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Richard M. Boye' wrote:

[munch discussions of Disney songs]

> Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> from the _Aristocats_.

Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.

Rob "99% Fat Free" Strong

---
"When you look into the Abyss, the Abyss also looks into you."

Richard M. Boye'

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Rob Strong wrote:
>
> Richard M. Boye' wrote:
>
> [munch discussions of Disney songs]
>
> > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> > from the _Aristocats_.
>
> Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.

I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Anyone wanna field this?


Devin Ganger

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On 9 May 1997 17:38:18 EDT, "Richard M. Boye'" <wa...@webspan.net>
wrote:

> Rob Strong wrote:
> >
> > Richard M. Boye' wrote:
> >
> > [munch discussions of Disney songs]
> >
> > > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> > > from the _Aristocats_.
> >
> > Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.
>
> I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
>
> Anyone wanna field this?

You're wrong. It's LatT, not tA.


--
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The Most Arrogant Fictional Dead Man On The Net
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Unsolicited commercial email will be invoiced for $500

Craig Moe

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Scottina B Good (s...@rrnet.com) wrote:
: On Fri, 9 May 1997 01:37:07 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
: wrote:

: >You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not


: >"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.

: *slaps hand to forehead*
: Enough already!!

: I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
: Email me for a form if interested.

Or you could just find a Warder purer than you, making you sullied by
comparison. Same end result, less whipped cream involved.

--
Craig Moe <Crai...@unc.edu>
"We found the record to be unintelligible at any speed we played it."
--From a federal investigation into the lyrics of "Louie, Louie."

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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Scottina B Good wrote:
>
> On Fri, 9 May 1997 01:37:07 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
> wrote:
> >Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
> ["Poor Unfortunate Souls" as favorite Disney song]

> >You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
> >"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.
> *slaps hand to forehead*
> Enough already!!
> I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> Email me for a form if interested.

I'm qualified, but I sort of chafe in unoriginal positions (like bad
leather...). Think of something more interesting, and I'll start
filling out my W-4...

> After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
> again. <shudder>

You brought it upon yourself. Next time start out with honesty and work
your way down to lying...

> K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

-TRSZ

[1] I have no idea what this means, but I spent five minutes coming up
with that metaphor, and I'll be buggered by a giant sea urchin before I
give it up.

Karl-Johan Noren

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In <3373FF...@chatlink.com>,
The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

> Scottina B Good wrote:
>
> > Enough already!!
> > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> > Email me for a form if interested.

Don't forget sending all the applications to the froup when
you've decided. And shouldn't there be a time limit?

> > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

Hmmmpppfff. It was _you_ who e-mailed me, not the other way
around. And there's more Warders around than me...

> And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

Be careful I don't bite you somewhere and piss in the wound.

--
Karl-Johan "Gareth Bryne" Norén (Noren with acute e)
k-j-...@dsv.su.se -- http://www.dsv.su.se/~k-j-nore/
- To believe people are as stupid as one believes is
stupider than one can believe

Stacy Hunt DuVall

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On 9 May 1997 17:38:18 EDT, "Richard M. Boye'" <wa...@webspan.net>
wrote:

>Rob Strong wrote:
>>
>> Richard M. Boye' wrote:
>>
>> [munch discussions of Disney songs]
>>
>> > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
>> > from the _Aristocats_.
>>
>> Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.
>
>I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
>
>Anyone wanna field this?
>

"We Are Siamese, If you Please" is from the _Aristocats_. IIRC, the
two Siamese cats who sing the song discuss things such as splitting a
goldfish. Oh well, I guess I could consult my four-year old neice...I
think that she already knows every Disney song out there...

As for how I'm sure its from the _Aristocats_, I had the record when I
was five (blush).

Stacy Hunt DuVall

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Oops. Just talked to my neice, and just found out that I was just
wrong. It was _Lady and the Tramp_. My apologies. So much for early
memories.

Scottina B Good

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On Fri, 9 May 1997 01:37:07 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
wrote:

>Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:

["Poor Unfortunate Souls"]


>>*huge grin* I _knew_ we were friends for a reason! That's my
>>favorite Disney song!! Of course she's not setting herself up as an
>>octopus woman. She's reaffirming the fact that she's evil. Sheesh.
>

>You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
>"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.

*slaps hand to forehead*
Enough already!!

I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
Email me for a form if interested.

After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
again. <shudder>

K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

Scottina

*bunnyTshens*

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The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
: Scottina B Good wrote:
: > *slaps hand to forehead*

Ouch.

: > Enough already!!

I hope so. Otherwise you'll raise unsightly welts. No one wants to sully
some chick with forehead welts. Mondo icky. Gag me with a spoon.

: > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.

So I take it you are a Green?

: > Email me for a form if interested.

What form of sullying were you thinking of emailing?

: I'm qualified, but I sort of chafe in unoriginal positions (like bad


: leather...). Think of something more interesting, and I'll start
: filling out my W-4...

No need for that. All sullying work will be freelance. <rimshot>

: > After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
: > again. <shudder>

Three Virgin Marys walk into a bar...

: You brought it upon yourself. Next time start out with honesty and work


: your way down to lying...

Yes. The way to start with honesty is lie down and work your way, *then*
bring it upon yourself. And then a shower afterward.

: > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

*Sniff*
Monoamorist!

: And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

And his testicles are striped to match!

Hawk

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In article <err67wr...@wendy.dsv.su.se>,
Karl-Johan Noren <k-j-...@dsv.su.se> wrote:

>The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
>> Scottina B Good wrote:

>> > Enough already!!

>> > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.

>> > Email me for a form if interested.

>Don't forget sending all the applications to the froup when


>you've decided. And shouldn't there be a time limit?

Just because I did it that way doesn't mean she has to. Though
considering some of the people that I now know are applying, I would be
quite interested in her posting them.

>> > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

>Hmmmpppfff. It was _you_ who e-mailed me, not the other way
>around. And there's more Warders around than me...

If they're already Warder's, then they can't apply. You, darkie, Josh
Hall, Bill, Emmett, Joel McAllister, and Russ Ennis are all barred from
applying. I think Chad might be as well... Judy claims him as a 1/2
Warder.

>> And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

>Be careful I don't bite you somewhere and piss in the wound.

Now _there's_ a lovely image.

Hawk

"And now I'm a God!"
"And now you're a coat rack."

Richard M. Boye'

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Stacy Hunt DuVall wrote:

(We Are Siamese If You Please)

> Oops. Just talked to my neice, and just found out that I was just
> wrong. It was _Lady and the Tramp_. My apologies. So much for early
> memories.

I sit corrected. No matter. I still love that song.

Kurt Montandon

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cgm...@email.unc.edu (Craig Moe) wrote:

>Scottina B Good (s...@rrnet.com) wrote:

>: On Fri, 9 May 1997 01:37:07 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
>: wrote:
>
>: >You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not


>: >"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.
>
>: *slaps hand to forehead*

>: Enough already!!


>
>: I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
>: Email me for a form if interested.
>

>Or you could just find a Warder purer than you, making you sullied by
>comparison. Same end result, less whipped cream involved.

"Less whipped cream involved"?

That's supposed to be a _good_ thing?

Of course, I can understand the desire to keep costs down. But
still. . . .

Kurt Montandon

--
Due to a shortage of wood-paper products, wipe your ass
on a spotted owl.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2747/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2747/GroupFaq.htm - rasfwrj FAQ


Scottina B Good

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M...@cris.com (Hawk) wrote:
> In article <err67wr...@wendy.dsv.su.se>,
> Karl-Johan Noren <k-j-...@dsv.su.se> wrote:
> >The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
> >> Scottina B Good wrote:
>
> >> > Enough already!!
> >> > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> >> > Email me for a form if interested.
>
> >Don't forget sending all the applications to the froup when
> >you've decided. And shouldn't there be a time limit?
>
> Just because I did it that way doesn't mean she has to. Though
> considering some of the people that I now know are applying, I would be
> quite interested in her posting them.

I haven't decided that one yet. Given my application, I may just keep
them.

> >> > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.
> >Hmmmpppfff. It was _you_ who e-mailed me, not the other way
> >around. And there's more Warders around than me...

Are we a little surly today?
True, there are other warders than you. However I was teasing you.

> If they're already Warder's, then they can't apply. You, darkie, Josh
> Hall, Bill, Emmett, Joel McAllister, and Russ Ennis are all barred from
> applying. I think Chad might be as well... Judy claims him as a 1/2
> Warder.

Makes sense to me. How do you get half a warder anyway?

> >> And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]
> >Be careful I don't bite you somewhere and piss in the wound.

*sigh* Why can't the two of you get along? Poor Kate.

Scottina

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Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
>On Fri, 9 May 1997 01:37:07 GMT, kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)
>wrote:

>["Poor Unfortunate Souls"]


>>You claim to be pure, but that's your favorite Disney song? Not
>>"Circle of Life" or something? Sheesh yourself.

>*slaps hand to forehead*
>Enough already!!

>I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
>Email me for a form if interested.

This should be interesting...

>After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
>again. <shudder>

Sorry! But hey, you aren't exactly innocent of perpetuating these...

>K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

I guess that rules out Emmet too...

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that Rob Strong <balt...@geocities.com> said:

>"Circle of Life" is a good song. (the version Elton John sings
>anyway)

Bleh. Without exception, the Top 40ed versions of Disney songs are
worse than the originals. The opening scene in the movie gave me
chills. The Elton John version is far less interesting.

>However, hands down, the all time greatest Disney song
>_ever_ is "Hellfire" from the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Have no desire to see that (or _Hercules,_ either. Please.)
_Pocahontas_ was really the start of a serious slide for them...

Scottina B Good

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kne...@world.std.coma (remove "a") wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
> >kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu)wrote:

> >I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> >Email me for a form if interested.
>
> This should be interesting...

Has been so far.

> >After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
> >again. <shudder>
>
> Sorry! But hey, you aren't exactly innocent of perpetuating these...

*sigh* It's been pointed out that since 'just not thinking that way'
is part of my personality... *grumble* However cross my heart, I'm
not *that* pure. It just doesn't show up in public... with good
reason.

> >K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.
>
> I guess that rules out Emmet too...

He left me alone after Joann & I teased him about being such a flirt.
Or was that tart with a side of tart?

Scottina B Good

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tshe...@rs6a.wln.com (*bunnyTshens*) wrote:

>
> The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
> : Scottina B Good wrote:

> : > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
>
> So I take it you are a Green?

Yes.

> : > Email me for a form if interested.
>
> What form of sullying were you thinking of emailing?

Are you applying?

> : > After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
> : > again. <shudder>
>


> Three Virgin Marys walk into a bar...

*sigh*

> : > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.
>
> *Sniff*
> Monoamorist!

Not any more apparantly.

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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*bunnyTshens* wrote:
> The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
> : Scottina B Good wrote:
> Gag me with a spoon.

I wonder why you never see people kidnapped this way in, say, a
Tarantino flick...



> : > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> So I take it you are a Green?

She's not only a Green, she's the flag, the hole *and* the putter. <wolf
whistle>



> : > Email me for a form if interested.
> What form of sullying were you thinking of emailing?

Probably Emmet. He's the best form of sullying I know.



> : I'm qualified, but I sort of chafe in unoriginal positions (like bad
> : leather...). Think of something more interesting, and I'll start
> : filling out my W-4...
> No need for that. All sullying work will be freelance. <rimshot>

So it's all done under the table? <alley-oop>



> : > After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
> : > again. <shudder>

My next joke will be 12 proof and the rest will be Pepsi.



> Three Virgin Marys walk into a bar...

<clonk> Oof, that's gotta hurt.



> : You brought it upon yourself. Next time start out with honesty and work
> : your way down to lying...
> Yes. The way to start with honesty is lie down and work your way, *then*
> bring it upon yourself. And then a shower afterward.

Then tell a priest so that God knows.



> : > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.
> *Sniff*
> Monoamorist!

Tshens, you're gettin' this close to the poor martyr of the month
award.;)

> : And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

> And his testicles are striped to match!

ObVious: To match *what*? <suspicious look>

-TRSZ

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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Scottina B Good wrote:
> M...@cris.com (Hawk) wrote:
> > In article <err67wr...@wendy.dsv.su.se>,
> > Karl-Johan Noren <k-j-...@dsv.su.se> wrote:

> > >The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
> > >> Scottina B Good wrote:

[the search for a warder]


> > >> > K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.

> > >Hmmmpppfff. It was _you_ who e-mailed me, not the other way
> > >around. And there's more Warders around than me...
> Are we a little surly today?

I'm a *big* surly today, momma!. <proud look>

> True, there are other warders than you. However I was teasing you.

Man, he's gonna be meaner then a badger trapped in Dylan's pants if you
don't knock that off...



> > If they're already Warder's, then they can't apply. You, darkie, Josh
> > Hall, Bill, Emmett, Joel McAllister, and Russ Ennis are all barred from
> > applying. I think Chad might be as well... Judy claims him as a 1/2
> > Warder.
> Makes sense to me. How do you get half a warder anyway?

They're on sale for 99 cents at K-Mart.



> > >> And he wards like a dog with a full bladder too.;) [1]

> > >Be careful I don't bite you somewhere and piss in the wound.

Well, you can bite me, but you'll have to piss on Darkelf instead. He's
into those bodily fluid menagerie things.;)



> *sigh* Why can't the two of you get along? Poor Kate.

Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)

-TRSZ

Steve Monahan

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On Mon, 12 May 1997 10:09:50 +0000, The Red Salamander Zaruga
<wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

[snip a lot]

>Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
>end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)

Are you kidding?

Warders don't kick Warders.

We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
husbands.


---
Steve (Remove "NO SPAM" to reply)

Callandor, (n): "a sword with the stopping power
of a sex crazed rhinoceros on bad acid."

Malka Susswein

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Richard M. Boye' wrote:

> > [munch discussions of Disney songs]
> >
> > > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> > > from the _Aristocats_.
> >
> > Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.
>
> I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
>
> Anyone wanna field this?

It's definitely from _Lady and the Tramp_. It's sung by the annoying old
aunt's two Siamese cats. My favorite lines there are:

" - Do you hear what I hear?
- Baby cry!
- Where we finding baby there are milk nearby.
- If we look in baby buggy there could be.
- Plenty milk for you. And also some for me."

And BTW, speaking of _Lady and the Tramp_ - anyone notice how the proper
and healthy thing to do soon after you have a baby is to take a vacation
and leave the baby behind?


Malka.

Richard M. Boye'

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Malka Susswein wrote:
>
> Richard M. Boye' wrote:
>
> > > [munch discussions of Disney songs]
> > >
> > > > Hands down, best Disney song has to be "We Are Siamese, If you Please"
> > > > from the _Aristocats_.
> > >
> > > Wasn't that song from Lady and the Tramp.
> >
> > I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

> It's definitely from _Lady and the Tramp_. It's sung by the annoying old


> aunt's two Siamese cats.

Okay, okay, okay...I give.

> And BTW, speaking of _Lady and the Tramp_ - anyone notice how the proper
> and healthy thing to do soon after you have a baby is to take a vacation
> and leave the baby behind?

Sure. It happened in my family.

In fact, I'm still waiting for my parents to come back :)

Scottina B Good

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On Mon, 12 May 1997 09:59:26 +0000, The Red Salamander Zaruga
<wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

>*bunnyTshens* wrote:

>> The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
>> : Scottina B Good wrote:

>> Gag me with a spoon.
>
>I wonder why you never see people kidnapped this way in, say, a
>Tarantino flick...

Speaking of Tarantino, I saw an add for a movie of his called Four
Rooms IIRC. Has anyone seen it? Was it good?

<munch>

Scottina

Malka Susswein

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On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dorit Koren wrote:

> Malka Susswein wrote:
> >
> [Snip discussion of "We are Siamese" song]


> >
> > And BTW, speaking of _Lady and the Tramp_ - anyone notice how the proper
> > and healthy thing to do soon after you have a baby is to take a vacation
> > and leave the baby behind?
>

> Okay, I'll bite. Why is this the healthy thing to do?

Actually, I'd say it isn't.

But it's interesting to note how at the time the movie was made it was
obviously considered the proper thing to do. Darling doesn't want to leave
her baby behind, but Jim Dear insists that they must go. I think the
reasoning behind it is that the parents (especially the mother) need some
time off after all the stress of pregnancy and childbirth.

Of course, nowadays the exact opposite view is taken - the parents should
remain at home with their baby, bonding with it and incorporating this new
little person into their daily lives.

It's very interesting how drastically attitudes regarding proper parenting
change.

And if we're really getting into this discussion just take look at _Bambi_
- a proper father keeps his distance. The only responsibility for child
rearing is on the mother. The father's responsibility is to (proudly)
watch from afar, making sure everything is OK, and only stepping in in
times of distress (like when Bambi's mother was killed).

Can anyone remember anything else regarding parenting from a Disney movie?


Malka.


The Red Salamander Zaruga

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In article <33788258...@news.rrnet.com>,

s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) wrote:
> Speaking of Tarantino, I saw an add for a movie of his called Four
> Rooms IIRC. Has anyone seen it? Was it good?

<shrug> Other then the sequence with Madonna and the goofy soundtrack, I
liked it a lot, but I haven't come across many others that did.
Definitely not one for your kiddies though, even if one of the sequences
might be played by them in a year or two.:) (Before you get suspicious,
in one of the vignettes, the Bellhop is payed big money to take care of
Antonio Banderas' two kids, who are a couple of spoiled brats.. Umm, am I
just digging myself a bigger hole here?:)

-TRSZ

Craig Moe

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Scottina B Good (s...@rrnet.com) wrote:

: Speaking of Tarantino, I saw an add for a movie of his called Four
: Rooms IIRC. Has anyone seen it? Was it good?

Pretty good. It's four little vignettes, each with a different director
(Tarantino's was the dullest of the lot), that all involve the same
bellhop on the midnight shift on New Year's Eve. Overall, it was pretty
funny, a little sick at times. Not a date movie. Only time I've ever
enjoyed an Antonio Banderas performance.

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:

>On Mon, 12 May 1997 10:09:50 +0000, The Red Salamander Zaruga
><wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

>>Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
>>end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)

>Are you kidding?

>Warders don't kick Warders.

>We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
>husbands.

You have?

I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...

Kate

"What was it, in the end?"
"What it always is. A handful of yarn; a little weaving and
stitching; some embroidery perhaps. A few loose ends, but that's only
to be expected..."
--Neil Gaiman, _Sandman: The Kindly Ones_

Karl-Johan Noren

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In <33790826...@news-f.std.com>,

the Kate of my heart <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:

> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:
> >On Mon, 12 May 1997 10:09:50 +0000, The Red Salamander Zaruga
> ><wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
>
> >>Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
> >>end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)

Correction: she sets her cat on me.

> >Are you kidding?
> >Warders don't kick Warders.
> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
> >husbands.
>
> You have?

As in general.

> I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...

Hmmm... I don't even know who they _are_, so it's a tad
hard to tell...

Paul Raj Khangure

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In an Age long past, an Age yet to come, Steve Monahan wrote:

: We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
: husbands.

I wasn't aware you had a husband, Steve. Something you're not telling us?


Paul "Moridin" Khangure

--

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this something people should be worried about?" Susannah Carr, Channel 7.
p...@iinet.net.au http://www.iinet.net.au/~prk/
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The Red Salamander Zaruga

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The First Lady of Cool, Dry Wit kne...@world.std.coma (remove "a")
wrote:

> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:

> >On Mon, 12 May, The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
> >>Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
> >>end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)

> >Are you kidding?

Ummm... Is this a trick question?

> >Warders don't kick Warders.

<shaking head> Where in all hells did you two train?! I can see I've
got my work cut out for me here...

> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit out of
> >husbands.

A service for which I am grateful. I prefer the shit to be on the
outside, and for that matter it *deserves* to be taunted and pestered.
Damn shit...

> You have?


> I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...

Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!

Steve Monahan

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On Wed, 14 May 1997 19:33:34 -0600, The Red Salamander Zaruga
<wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

> The First Lady of Cool, Dry Wit kne...@world.std.coma (remove "a")
>wrote:
>
>> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:
>> >On Mon, 12 May, The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
>> >>Oh we get along *fine*, but as a Warder, we want him *mean*. To this
>> >>end, Kate starves him, I tease him and Steve probably kicks him.:)
>> >Are you kidding?
>
>Ummm... Is this a trick question?
>
>> >Warders don't kick Warders.
>
><shaking head> Where in all hells did you two train?! I can see I've
>got my work cut out for me here...
>
>> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit out of
>> >husbands.
>
>A service for which I am grateful. I prefer the shit to be on the
>outside, and for that matter it *deserves* to be taunted and pestered.
>Damn shit...
>

*smack*

Oops. Excuse me. Didn't mean it, really.

>> You have?
>> I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...
>

<whistles innocently>

Well, *I* certainly had nothing to do with them.

>Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
>starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
>get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!
>

*smack*

Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.


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On 14 May 1997 15:08:48 +0800, Paul Raj Khangure
<p...@opera.iinet.net.au> wrote:

>In an Age long past, an Age yet to come, Steve Monahan wrote:
>
>: We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
>: husbands.
>
>I wasn't aware you had a husband, Steve. Something you're not telling us?
>
>

Willful misunderstanding gets you nowhere. Here, have a Timmy Prize.


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Kids will eat snot.

Ian Kaplan

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The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
: *bunnyTshens* wrote:
: > : Scottina B Good wrote:
:
: > : > I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
: > So I take it you are a Green?

: She's not only a Green, she's the flag, the hole *and* the putter. <wolf
: whistle>


<visibly restraining comments about sullying, holes, and putters...>

'Good, innocent and pure. I am good, innocent and pure. And virtuous. Yes.'
--me.

--
ijk


Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:
>> The First Lady of Cool, Dry Wit kne...@world.std.coma (remove "a")
>>wrote:
>>> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:

>>> >Warders don't kick Warders.

>>> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit out of
>>> >husbands.

>>> You have?
>>> I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...

><whistles innocently>

>Well, *I* certainly had nothing to do with them.

At this point, I'm starting to contemplate putting out an abp on
afp...

>*smack*

>Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.

Or maybe a restraining order. Really, can't you boys behave?

Kate

"What did we make? What was it, in the end?"

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that Karl-Johan Noren <k-j-...@dsv.su.se> said:
>In <33790826...@news-f.std.com>,
>the Kate of my heart <kne...@world.std.coma> wrote:
>> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:

>> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit ouit of
>> >husbands.

>> I _knew_ I should've kept closer tabs on those other two husbands...

>Hmmm... I don't even know who they _are_, so it's a tad
>hard to tell...

Well, don't expect me to tell you... I'm having a hard enough time
taking care of the one you know about. (It's a good thing Emmet isn't
around here anymore...)

Troy N. Terry

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Gun-toting G-men report that Scottina B Good wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 May 1997 09:59:26 +0000, The Red Salamander Zaruga
> <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

>
> >*bunnyTshens* wrote:
> >> The Red Salamander Zaruga (wal...@chatlink.com) wrote:
> >> : Scottina B Good wrote:
> >> Gag me with a spoon.
> >
> >I wonder why you never see people kidnapped this way in, say, a
> >Tarantino flick...
>
> Speaking of Tarantino, I saw an add for a movie of his called Four
> Rooms IIRC. Has anyone seen it? Was it good?
>

I've seen it ... it's consistently funny, but there's
one scene in there which is so hilarious that it had
me literally rolling on the floor laughing, my eyes
streaming tears. Jeez, good thing I didn't see it in
the theater...

In other words, I recommend that you see it. Soon.

Pax,
T. Terry
"If you didn't want him killed, why did you leave him with me?"
-- Mouse

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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In article <337a616f...@news1.ibm.net>,
ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net wrote:
> The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
> > Kate Nepveu, the First Lady of Cool, Dry Wit kne...@world.std.coma

> > (remove "a") wrote:
> >> Rumor has it that ste...@ibm.net (Steve Monahan) said:
> >> >We *have* however been know to taunt and pester the shit out of
> >> >husbands.
> >A service for which I am grateful. I prefer the shit to be on the
> >outside, and for that matter it *deserves* to be taunted and pestered.
> >Damn shit...
> *smack*

Hey! <ptui! ptui!> Don't kiss me! Not without warning me first,
anyways...

> Oops. Excuse me. Didn't mean it, really.

<skeptical look> Hmmph. I'm warning you, that's sexual harassment, and
I don't have to take it!

> >Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
> >starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
> >get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!

> *smack*
> Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.

You okay? That was a nasty spill you took there. And why are you
talking to that bean?

Christian R. Conrad

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 02:32:07 GMT,
kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu) said:

> At this point, I'm starting to contemplate putting out an abp on

> afp... ^^^

ObNonMerkin: ??? ( = "apb" ...? )

Christian R. Conrad

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Steve Monahan

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 13:34:25 -0600, The Red Salamander Zaruga
<wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

<chuckle>

Y'know, sometimes I've really gotta wonder if your just real good at
this schtick. Or if you are actually dense as Ready-Mix.

Shoo!

Steve Monahan

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 16:34:31 GMT, christia...@hedengren.fi
(Christian R. Conrad) wrote:

>On Fri, 16 May 1997 02:32:07 GMT,
>kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu) said:
>
>> At this point, I'm starting to contemplate putting out an abp on
>> afp... ^^^
>
>ObNonMerkin: ??? ( = "apb" ...? )
>

Same as BOL.

HTH!


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Wanting to see if the class had understood the
concept of sublimation, the instructor asked if
anyone could provide an example (expecting
"dry ice" as the answer).

A previously unknown section of my mind took
control of my mouth and immediately emitted
the word "burrito."

It took the instructor about 10 minutes to regain an academic composure.

Jeff Vinocur

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:55 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net
(Steve Monahan) wrote:

:Wanting to see if the class had understood the

:concept of sublimation, the instructor asked if
:anyone could provide an example (expecting
:"dry ice" as the answer).
:
:A previously unknown section of my mind took
:control of my mouth and immediately emitted
:the word "burrito."

LOL. Does this make any sense at all (having never eaten a
burrito, I really don't know whether they tends to disappear
or soemthing)?
--
Jeff Vinocur
chi...@ix.netcom.com
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3768/

James Andrew Welsh

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Jeff Vinocur (chi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:55 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net
: (Steve Monahan) wrote:

: :Wanting to see if the class had understood the
: :concept of sublimation, the instructor asked if
: :anyone could provide an example (expecting
: :"dry ice" as the answer).
: :
: :A previously unknown section of my mind took
: :control of my mouth and immediately emitted
: :the word "burrito."

: LOL. Does this make any sense at all (having never eaten a
: burrito, I really don't know whether they tends to disappear
: or soemthing)?

Now I got it.

Sublimation: solid to gas, correct?

--
JAW
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/1482/
"Sanity is a slippery slope, and I'm wearing Teflon shoes."

Steve Monahan

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On 17 May 1997 21:27:26 GMT, ap...@chebucto.ns.ca (James Andrew Welsh)
wrote:

>Jeff Vinocur (chi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:55 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net
>: (Steve Monahan) wrote:
>
>: :Wanting to see if the class had understood the
>: :concept of sublimation, the instructor asked if
>: :anyone could provide an example (expecting
>: :"dry ice" as the answer).
>: :
>: :A previously unknown section of my mind took
>: :control of my mouth and immediately emitted
>: :the word "burrito."
>
>: LOL. Does this make any sense at all (having never eaten a
>: burrito, I really don't know whether they tends to disappear
>: or soemthing)?
>
>Now I got it.
>
>Sublimation: solid to gas, correct?
>

k'rekt

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Jeff Vinocur

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On 17 May 1997 21:27:26 GMT, ap...@chebucto.ns.ca (James
Andrew Welsh) wrote:

:Sublimation: solid to gas, correct?

Check

Kate Nepveu

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Rumor has it that christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad)
said:

>On Fri, 16 May 1997 02:32:07 GMT,
>kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu) said:

>> At this point, I'm starting to contemplate putting out an abp on
>> afp... ^^^

>ObNonMerkin: ??? ( = "apb" ...? )

All-points bulletin. Short for "everyone look for this person."
Originated from police terminology, but it's become common usage now.

Scottina B Good

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:56 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net (Steve
Monahan) wrote:

>On Fri, 16 May 1997 13:34:25 -0600, The Red Salamander Zaruga
><wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:

<snip other silliness>


>>> *smack*
>>
>>Hey! <ptui! ptui!> Don't kiss me! Not without warning me first,
>>anyways...
>>
>>> Oops. Excuse me. Didn't mean it, really.
>>
>><skeptical look> Hmmph. I'm warning you, that's sexual harassment, and
>>I don't have to take it!

*snicker*

>>> >Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
>>> >starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
>>> >get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!
>>> *smack*
>>> Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.
>>
>>You okay? That was a nasty spill you took there. And why are you
>>talking to that bean?
>>
><chuckle>
>
>Y'know, sometimes I've really gotta wonder if your just real good at
>this schtick. Or if you are actually dense as Ready-Mix.

He's good at it. I make him behave when on the phone.
<shrug> Conversation wouldn't go anywhere if I didn't.

Scottina

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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In article <33767397...@news-f.std.com>,

kne...@world.std.coma (remove "a") wrote:
> Rumor has it that s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) said:
> >I'm taking applications for a Warder. Duties must include sullying.
> >Email me for a form if interested.
> This should be interesting...

Yes, it has been.. Somehow I think I ended up becoming her official
gleeman in the process. The scary thing is, that I think this means I
have to sing songs about how she was sullied mightily by warder
applicants and an elf of the night...

> >After this is over I do not _ever_ want to hear another Pure Joke
> >again. <shudder>
> Sorry! But hey, you aren't exactly innocent of perpetuating these...

Hey, she's a multiple, she's got a right to be fickle.;)

> >K~J, you may not apply. You're taken.
> I guess that rules out Emmet too...

Being as Emmet's taken by approximately 52% of the human population, I
think he's ruled out with extreme prejudice...

The Red Salamander Zaruga

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In article <3380975e...@news.rrnet.com>,

s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good) wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:56 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net (Steve
> Monahan) wrote:
> > The Red Salamander Zaruga <wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
> <snip other silliness>
> >>> *smack*
> >>Hey! <ptui! ptui!> Don't kiss me! Not without warning me first,
> >>anyways...

And certainly not with tongue.

> >>> Oops. Excuse me. Didn't mean it, really.
> >><skeptical look> Hmmph. I'm warning you, that's sexual harassment, and
> >>I don't have to take it!
> *snicker*

Sexual harassment is no laughing matter! I'm afraid I'll have to send
you to sensitivity training, Scottie...

> >>> >Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
> >>> >starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
> >>> >get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!
> >>> *smack*
> >>> Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.
> >>You okay? That was a nasty spill you took there. And why are you
> >>talking to that bean?
> ><chuckle>
> >Y'know, sometimes I've really gotta wonder if your just real good at
> >this schtick.
> >Or if you are actually dense as Ready-Mix.

The answer is left as an exercise to the reader.... On the one hand, my
RL nickname isn't Loki for nothing... or I may just have a head built out
of a condensed cosmic string. Maybe even sweet and condensed... Cake
sounds good...Scottie, can I have cake? I like frogs. Am I in the wrong
building?

> He's good at it. I make him behave when on the phone.
> <shrug> Conversation wouldn't go anywhere if I didn't.

<snort> Since when do conversations need to go somewhere? I like my
conversations to stay home and finish their schoolwork first.

Christian R. Conrad

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On Sun, 18 May 1997 21:42:31 GMT,
kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu) said:

> Rumor has it that christia...@hedengren.fi (Christian R. Conrad)
> said:
> >kne...@world.std.coma (Kate Nepveu) said:
> >> At this point, I'm starting to contemplate putting out an abp on
> >> afp... ^^^
> >ObNonMerkin: ??? ( = "apb" ...? )

> All-points bulletin. Short for "everyone look for this person."
> Originated from police terminology, but it's become common usage now.

I know -- we watch (far too much! :-) American cop series on television
here in You-ropp too. That's _why_I_asked_ if "abp" = "apb", you know...

Steve Monahan

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On Mon, 19 May 1997 18:40:16 GMT, s...@rrnet.com (Scottina B Good)
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:16:56 GMT, ste...@ibm.NOSPAM.net (Steve
>Monahan) wrote:
>

>>On Fri, 16 May 1997 13:34:25 -0600, The Red Salamander Zaruga


>><wal...@chatlink.com> wrote:
><snip other silliness>
>>>> *smack*
>>>
>>>Hey! <ptui! ptui!> Don't kiss me! Not without warning me first,
>>>anyways...
>>>

>>>> Oops. Excuse me. Didn't mean it, really.
>>>
>>><skeptical look> Hmmph. I'm warning you, that's sexual harassment, and
>>>I don't have to take it!
>
>*snicker*
>

>>>> >Haven't you wondered how KJ's been surviving this long while you've been
>>>> >starving him? And you *had* to have noticed Steve's *size*. They don't
>>>> >get that big eatin' roots and jerky, that's for sure!
>>>> *smack*
>>>> Damn! Slipped again. Really sorry 'bout that old bean.
>>>
>>>You okay? That was a nasty spill you took there. And why are you
>>>talking to that bean?
>>>
>><chuckle>
>>
>>Y'know, sometimes I've really gotta wonder if your just real good at
>>this schtick. Or if you are actually dense as Ready-Mix.
>

>He's good at it. I make him behave when on the phone.
><shrug> Conversation wouldn't go anywhere if I didn't.
>

I still think that the first thing I'm gonna do if I ever meet him, is
fire a tranquilizer dart into his butt.

_Then_ I'll say "Hi".


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