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David

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Sep 30, 2012, 9:01:16 PM9/30/12
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"Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to L+3,
Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating

L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:

“Revolution” grew from last Monday’s “live plus same day” rating
(3.45) to “live plus three day” (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking the
show’s record from the previous week for the largest increase from
L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
In L+3, Week 2 of “Revolution” finished within 5 percent of its
premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that’s despite the arrival in
Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of “Hawaii
Five-0” and “Castle.”
Revolution (+1.74) had the biggest increase among any ABC, CBS,
NBC or Fox program on Mon/Tue (2nd highest is New Girl, up +1.05 at
both 8p and 9p Tuesday)
Revolution (5.19) and Voice (5.18) are the top 2 shows on the
broadcast nets for Mon/Tue

Barry Margolin

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Sep 30, 2012, 9:13:23 PM9/30/12
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In article <toqh6851ni08t5trq...@4ax.com>,
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to L+3,
> Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>
> L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>
> “Revolution” grew from last Monday’s “live plus same day” rating
> (3.45) to “live plus three day” (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking the
> show’s record from the previous week for the largest increase from
> L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> In L+3, Week 2 of “Revolution” finished within 5 percent of its
> premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that’s despite the arrival in
> Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of “Hawaii
> Five-0” and “Castle.”

Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period competition.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

wolfagain

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Sep 30, 2012, 10:03:53 PM9/30/12
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On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
Well over 90% of viewers are NOT watching either show...just Morons
and boys who still live with their mothers.

anim8rFSK

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Sep 30, 2012, 11:07:12 PM9/30/12
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In article
<12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:

> On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> >
> >  David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to L+3,
> > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> >
> > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> >
> > >     ³Revolution² grew from last Monday¹s ³live plus same day² rating
> > > (3.45) to ³live plus three day² (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking the
> > > show¹s record from the previous week for the largest increase from
> > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > >     In L+3, Week 2 of ³Revolution² finished within 5 percent of its
> > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that¹s despite the arrival in
> > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of ³Hawaii
> > > Five-0² and ³Castle.²
> >
> > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period competition.

Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Barry Margolin

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Oct 1, 2012, 3:03:02 AM10/1/12
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> Well over 90% of viewers are NOT watching either show...just Morons
> and boys who still live with their mothers.

Could you please stop responding to every rating article with this
meaningless statistic. It's true for every show on the air.

Dragon Lady

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Oct 1, 2012, 8:17:18 PM10/1/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:anim8rfsk-D6144...@news.easynews.com...
So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not going to
watch????

anim8rFSK

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Oct 1, 2012, 9:00:19 PM10/1/12
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In article <k4dbpt$jdm$1...@dont-email.me>,
I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 1, 2012, 11:37:40 PM10/1/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you remember
to disconnect the coax first?

anim8rFSK

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Oct 2, 2012, 12:37:45 AM10/2/12
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In article <k4dni4$tui$2...@news.albasani.net>,
Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
longer a technology worth embracing.

WrongWayWade

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Oct 2, 2012, 2:06:23 PM10/2/12
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Exactly. If I COULD record as many things as I wanted at once I'd record
Revolution, Castle, Hawaii-5.0 and Monday Night Football. But currently I'm
(time-shifting to skip commercials) MNF, recording Revolution and getting
Castle On-Demand. CBS doesn't appear on my DirecTV On-Demand, so Hawaii-5.0
is out.



Fred Ellis

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Oct 2, 2012, 2:40:10 PM10/2/12
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On Monday night, I'm able to record 6 channels using four DVD recorders.
I use one to record 'Alphas' & 'Warehouse 13' on the Sci-fi channel
and later in the evening record 'Major Crimes' on TNT. I use a second
recorder to record 'Bones' on Fox and 'Castle' on ABC.

I use the other two recorders to record 'Revolution' on NBC and 'Hawaii
Five-O' on CBS.

For the rest of the week I only need one recorder to record the shows on
CBS, except Friday, then I'm back to using all four recorders.


Fred Ellis
--
"Who do you trust and who do you serve."

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 2, 2012, 2:45:47 PM10/2/12
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Fred Ellis <fke...@sticx.net> wrote:

>--
>"Who do you trust and who do you serve."

This ungramatical shit has bothered me ever since I first heard it.
It's whom.

Obveeus

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Oct 2, 2012, 3:15:45 PM10/2/12
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"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Language evolves, especially over hundreds of years.


Jim G.

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Oct 2, 2012, 3:42:41 PM10/2/12
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
To be fair, though, I'm *much* more likely to record the show that I'll
be more likely to rewatch, so getting DVR status is usually a compliment
in my case. And since the Nielsen people don't like me, it doesn't
matter in the least as far as helping or hurting the show's ratings is
concerned.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13

anim8rFSK

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Oct 2, 2012, 3:56:27 PM10/2/12
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In article <cyGas.29$iU7...@newsfe11.iad>,
Cox runs ads that say if you get their new 'whole house' service you can
record as many programs as you want, simultaneously - "all of them"

The thing is, it's a blatant lie. If you go to the website, it says "up
to 5"

Dragon Lady

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Oct 2, 2012, 9:33:53 PM10/2/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:anim8rfsk-86858...@news.easynews.com...
> In article <k4dbpt$jdm$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:anim8rfsk-D6144...@news.easynews.com...
>> > In article
>> > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>> > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> >> > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
>> >> >
>> >> > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to
>> >> > > L+3,
>> >> > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>> >> >
>> >> > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>> >> >
>> >> > > łRevolution˛ grew from last Mondayąs łlive plus same day˛ rating
>> >> > > (3.45) to łlive plus three day˛ (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > showąs record from the previous week for the largest increase from
>> >> > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
>> >> > > In L+3, Week 2 of łRevolution˛ finished within 5 percent of its
>> >> > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and thatąs despite the arrival in
>> >> > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of
>> >> > > łHawaii
>> >> > > Five-0˛ and łCastle.˛
>> >> >
>> >> > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
>> >> > competition.
>> >
>> > Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
>>
>> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not going
>> to
>> watch????
>
> I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?

anim8rFSK

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Oct 2, 2012, 10:12:16 PM10/2/12
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In article <k4g4l8$bff$1...@dont-email.me>,
It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
all.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 2, 2012, 10:13:08 PM10/2/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

>>When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you remember
>>to disconnect the coax first?

>Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
>automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
>drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
>longer a technology worth embracing.

Are you recording on VCR, then?

Dragon Lady

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Oct 2, 2012, 10:34:37 PM10/2/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:anim8rfsk-EE457...@news.easynews.com...
Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
television, they would not be recording it at all. You have to remember,
the majority of the population doesn't understand science well enough to
spot inconsistencies in science fiction.


anim8rFSK

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Oct 2, 2012, 11:26:33 PM10/2/12
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In article <k4g6vj$bsv$3...@news.albasani.net>,
I'm not recording at all

anim8rFSK

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Oct 2, 2012, 11:27:16 PM10/2/12
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In article <k4g86l$q6c$1...@dont-email.me>,
I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
discuss it here.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 2, 2012, 11:31:46 PM10/2/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

>>>>When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you remember
>>>>to disconnect the coax first?

>>>Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
>>>automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
>>>drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
>>>longer a technology worth embracing.

>>Are you recording on VCR, then?

>I'm not recording at all

Oh, I get it. You expect me to suffer on your behalf when you have a
viewing conflict.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 1:16:44 AM10/3/12
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In article <k4gbj2$jct$2...@news.albasani.net>,
Hey, everything's watchable without recording it. I will say that
Revolution didn't appear in the alternate viewing options until today,
which says that it's not very popular, at least not with those who count.

Michael Bowker

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Oct 3, 2012, 2:33:31 AM10/3/12
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Holy Cow, say it isn't so? What do you do on Tuesday?

Michael Bowker

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Oct 3, 2012, 2:35:22 AM10/3/12
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So your not watching Last Resort?

Obveeus

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Oct 3, 2012, 7:16:45 AM10/3/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are you recording on VCR, then?
>
> I'm not recording at all

Life is best if you live in the moment.


anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 9:43:50 AM10/3/12
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In article <K0Ras.2276$NN3....@newsfe10.iad>,
At this point Revolution is considerably stupider than Last Resort, but
it's had 3 episodes to compile the idiocy vs Last Resort's one. We'll
see what happens when Last Resort gets past the pilot.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 9:47:27 AM10/3/12
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In article <%_Qas.2275$NN3...@newsfe10.iad>,
Last night really was a wasteland, wasn't it? Actually all of yesterday
was a waste, as the tradesmen that were coming over never showed, and
the people I was supposed to go see never contacted me, and I just sat
here waiting, and literally every time the phone rang it was an
insurance scam aimed at my dead mother. I ended up screaming at the
last one that I was going to track him down and stick a fork in his eye.
Peachy does not approve. I will however say that he didn't call back.

Obveeus

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Oct 3, 2012, 11:08:50 AM10/3/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> Last night really was a wasteland, wasn't it?

NEW GIRl / THE MINDY PROJECT...all that is left for Tuesday viewing. Well,
at least until EMILY OWENS, M.D. debuts. You should probably watch that
show just for the snark.

> Actually all of yesterday
> was a waste, as the tradesmen that were coming over never showed, and
> the people I was supposed to go see never contacted me, and I just sat
> here waiting, and literally every time the phone rang it was an
> insurance scam aimed at my dead mother. I ended up screaming at the
> last one that I was going to track him down and stick a fork in his eye.
> Peachy does not approve.

Where does she think the fork should be stuck?


anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 11:22:10 AM10/3/12
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In article <k4hke3$tb7$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
heh

Another friend suggests I offer a free fork in the eye for every fourth
caller, just to spice it up a bit.

Jim G.

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Oct 3, 2012, 3:43:28 PM10/3/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:15:45 -0400:
Language evolves when lazy/stupid/ignorant people win. Some of us try to
do our part to keep that from happening.

Professor Bubba

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Oct 3, 2012, 4:16:19 PM10/3/12
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In article <lbro689hpfi50i9dl...@4ax.com>, Jim G.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:15:45 -0400:
> >
> > "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > > Fred Ellis <fke...@sticx.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>--
> > >>"Who do you trust and who do you serve."
> > >
> > > This ungramatical shit has bothered me ever since I first heard it.
> > > It's whom.
> >
> > Language evolves, especially over hundreds of years.
>
> Language evolves when lazy/stupid/ignorant people win. Some of us try to
> do our part to keep that from happening.


You're right about the need to be right.

Reminds me of a commercial more than fifty years ago promoting Johnny
Carson's afternoon game show, Who Do You Trust? Carson and (possibly)
a stage manager were shown arguing about how the name of the show
should be Whom Do You Trust?, with the stage manager insisting they
change the name of the show and Carson trying to stall him off so he
could finish the commercial.

I guess it made an impression on me.

David Barnett

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Oct 3, 2012, 4:39:06 PM10/3/12
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In article <anim8rfsk-923752.20263302102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
Isn't there an alternative to COX, which BTW is not
available here?

I use a DVR, a PVR & a Cable Channels set-top.
I can record 6 different programs simultaneously, tho I
rarely do. I'm happy with my set up, apart from a DVR that
went RS due to a power blackout some time back.

I had a power blackout yesterday that only lasted about 1
second or less. Apart from having to adjust 2 radio clocks
& my computer restarting, nothing else was amiss afaik.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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Oct 3, 2012, 4:52:37 PM10/3/12
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In article <anim8rfsk-245785.20271602102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
>
> In article <k4g86l$q6c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:anim8rfsk-EE457...@news.easynews.com...
> > > In article <k4g4l8$bff$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > > "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:anim8rfsk-86858...@news.easynews.com...
> > >> > In article <k4dbpt$jdm$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > >> > "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:anim8rfsk-D6144...@news.easynews.com...
> > >> >> > In article
> > >> >> > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> > >> >> > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD
> > >> >> >> > > to
> > >> >> >> > > L+3,
> > >> >> >> > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > > ᅵRevolutionᅵ grew from last Mondayᅵs ᅵlive plus same dayᅵ
> > >> >> >> > > rating
> > >> >> >> > > (3.45) to ᅵlive plus three dayᅵ (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking
> > >> >> >> > > the
> > >> >> >> > > showᅵs record from the previous week for the largest increase
> > >> >> >> > > from
> > >> >> >> > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > >> >> >> > > In L+3, Week 2 of ᅵRevolutionᅵ finished within 5 percent of its
> > >> >> >> > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and thatᅵs despite the arrival
> > >> >> >> > > in
> > >> >> >> > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of
> > >> >> >> > > ᅵHawaii
> > >> >> >> > > Five-0ᅵ and ᅵCastle.ᅵ
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
> > >> >> >> > competition.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not
> > >> >> going
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> watch????
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
> > >>
> > >> So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?
> > >
> > > It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
> > > worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
> > > it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
> > > all.
> >
> > Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
> > television, they would not be recording it at all.
>
> I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
> discuss it here.

The only show mentioned in this post is Revolution.
I thought you regarded Hawaii 5-0 as the worst show on
television.

I, myself, regard 666 Park Avenue as the worst, with Last
Resort a close second.
Vegas & Elementary tie for 3rd place, tho both may
improve, and hence I will give them more chances, but not
the first two.

I'm glad you will be posting re Revolution as it will give
me chances to reply.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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Oct 3, 2012, 4:56:28 PM10/3/12
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In article <%_Qas.2275$NN3...@newsfe10.iad>,
mi...@rawbw.com says...
For quite a while there was nothing to watch here in
Australia on a Tuesday, but now there is is NCIS & NCIS:LA
("fast tracked").

--
David Barnett

anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 6:34:24 PM10/3/12
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In article <MPG.2ad75187f...@news.bigpond.com>,
So there's still nothing to watch there in Australia on a Tuesday. :)

anim8rFSK

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Oct 3, 2012, 6:35:42 PM10/3/12
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In article <MPG.2ad7509d9...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > > >> >> >> > > 3Revolution2 grew from last Monday1s 3live plus same day2
> > > >> >> >> > > rating
> > > >> >> >> > > (3.45) to 3live plus three day2 (5.19) by 1.74 points,
> > > >> >> >> > > breaking
> > > >> >> >> > > the
> > > >> >> >> > > show1s record from the previous week for the largest
> > > >> >> >> > > increase
> > > >> >> >> > > from
> > > >> >> >> > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > > >> >> >> > > In L+3, Week 2 of 3Revolution2 finished within 5 percent of
> > > >> >> >> > > its
> > > >> >> >> > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that1s despite the
> > > >> >> >> > > arrival
> > > >> >> >> > > in
> > > >> >> >> > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres
> > > >> >> >> > > of
> > > >> >> >> > > 3Hawaii
> > > >> >> >> > > Five-02 and 3Castle.2
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
> > > >> >> >> > competition.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to
> > > >> >> > watch.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not
> > > >> >> going
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> watch????
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
> > > >>
> > > >> So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?
> > > >
> > > > It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
> > > > worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
> > > > it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
> > > > all.
> > >
> > > Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
> > > television, they would not be recording it at all.
> >
> > I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
> > discuss it here.
>
> The only show mentioned in this post is Revolution.
> I thought you regarded Hawaii 5-0 as the worst show on
> television.

I did, with the odd exception like Retired at 35, that nobody else seems
to have ever sampled. But this season, there's actually stuff that's
worse.
>
> I, myself, regard 666 Park Avenue as the worst, with Last
> Resort a close second.
> Vegas & Elementary tie for 3rd place, tho both may
> improve, and hence I will give them more chances, but not
> the first two.
>
> I'm glad you will be posting re Revolution as it will give
> me chances to reply.

:)

anim8rFSK

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In article <MPG.2ad74d779...@news.bigpond.com>,
David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-923752.20263302102012
> @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> >
> > In article <k4g6vj$bsv$3...@news.albasani.net>,
> > "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > > >>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
> > >
> > > >>When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you
> > > >>remember
> > > >>to disconnect the coax first?
> > >
> > > >Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
> > > >automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
> > > >drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
> > > >longer a technology worth embracing.
> > >
> > > Are you recording on VCR, then?
> >
> > I'm not recording at all
>
> Isn't there an alternative to COX, which BTW is not
> available here?

Not a practical one. I could get satellite, but their internet is very
slow. I'll be moving soon anyway, so I'm not massively concerned about
it.
>
> I use a DVR, a PVR & a Cable Channels set-top.
> I can record 6 different programs simultaneously, tho I
> rarely do. I'm happy with my set up, apart from a DVR that
> went RS due to a power blackout some time back.
>
> I had a power blackout yesterday that only lasted about 1
> second or less. Apart from having to adjust 2 radio clocks
> & my computer restarting, nothing else was amiss afaik.

Excellent!

David Barnett

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In article <anim8rfsk-B60EE0.15342403102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
LOL
I won't mention JLC.
Oh, I just did!

I thought Hetty might be leaving NCIS:LA, but fortunately
she isn't.
If she ever did I would probably cease watching it.
--
David Barnett

anim8rFSK

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In article <MPG.2ad76f55...@news.bigpond.com>,
Me too.

Oh. Wait. Too late ...

Arthur Lipscomb

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On 10/2/2012 8:27 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <k4g86l$q6c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:anim8rfsk-EE457...@news.easynews.com...
>>> In article <k4g4l8$bff$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:anim8rfsk-86858...@news.easynews.com...
>>>>> In article <k4dbpt$jdm$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:anim8rfsk-D6144...@news.easynews.com...
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> L+3,
>>>>>>>>>> Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> �Revolution� grew from last Monday�s �live plus same day�
>>>>>>>>>> rating
>>>>>>>>>> (3.45) to �live plus three day� (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> show�s record from the previous week for the largest increase
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
>>>>>>>>>> In L+3, Week 2 of �Revolution� finished within 5 percent of its
>>>>>>>>>> premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that�s despite the arrival
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of
>>>>>>>>>> �Hawaii
>>>>>>>>>> Five-0� and �Castle.�
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
>>>>>>>>> competition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> watch????
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
>>>>
>>>> So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?
>>>
>>> It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
>>> worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
>>> it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
>>> all.
>>
>> Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
>> television, they would not be recording it at all.
>
> I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
> discuss it here.
>

It's by far the worst show I'm watching, and it's can't miss for me.
I've actually stopped watching better shows! More goes into what does
or doesn't get watched than is it good or bad.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 4, 2012, 1:59:33 AM10/4/12
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In article <k4j3cv$hv8$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>> łRevolution˛ grew from last Mondayąs łlive plus same day˛
> >>>>>>>>>> rating
> >>>>>>>>>> (3.45) to łlive plus three day˛ (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> showąs record from the previous week for the largest increase
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>> L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> >>>>>>>>>> In L+3, Week 2 of łRevolution˛ finished within 5 percent of its
> >>>>>>>>>> premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and thatąs despite the arrival
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of
> >>>>>>>>>> łHawaii
> >>>>>>>>>> Five-0˛ and łCastle.˛
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
> >>>>>>>>> competition.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not
> >>>>>> going
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> watch????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
> >>>>
> >>>> So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?
> >>>
> >>> It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
> >>> worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
> >>> it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
> >>> all.
> >>
> >> Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
> >> television, they would not be recording it at all.
> >
> > I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
> > discuss it here.
> >
>
> It's by far the worst show I'm watching, and it's can't miss for me.
> I've actually stopped watching better shows! More goes into what does
> or doesn't get watched than is it good or bad.

Now, LAST RESORT has a real shot at the crown here, depending on what
they do with ep two tomorrow night ...

Barry Margolin

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Oct 4, 2012, 2:57:34 AM10/4/12
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In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
> > In article
> > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sep 30, 8:13�pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> > > >
> > > > �David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to L+3,
> > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> > > >
> > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> > > >
> > > > > � � �Revolution� grew from last Monday�s �live plus same day� rating
> > > > > (3.45) to �live plus three day� (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking the
> > > > > show�s record from the previous week for the largest increase from
> > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > > > > � � In L+3, Week 2 of �Revolution� finished within 5 percent of its
> > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that�s despite the arrival in
> > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of �Hawaii
> > > > > Five-0� and �Castle.�
> > > >
> > > > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period competition.
> >
> > Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
>
> To be fair, though, I'm *much* more likely to record the show that I'll
> be more likely to rewatch, so getting DVR status is usually a compliment
> in my case. And since the Nielsen people don't like me, it doesn't
> matter in the least as far as helping or hurting the show's ratings is
> concerned.

And many DVR owners record practically everything, and hardly watch
anything live. I presume the Live+3 numbers reflect people who actually
watch the recording, not just the people who record it. So this shows
that lots of people are watching their Revolution recordings.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

Obveeus

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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>> It's by far the worst show I'm watching, and it's can't miss for me.
>> I've actually stopped watching better shows! More goes into what does
>> or doesn't get watched than is it good or bad.
>
> Now, LAST RESORT has a real shot at the crown here, depending on what
> they do with ep two tomorrow night ...

Agreed, though without the second episode of LAST RESORT I would still give
it the title of 'worst show I am still watching' just based upon episode #1.


William December Starr

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Oct 4, 2012, 4:57:54 PM10/4/12
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In article <anim8rfsk-EE457...@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:

> It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside
> the worst show on television to maybe watch later.

I'm with the "If I really want to watch something, I record it"
crowd. Live viewing is for the stuff I don't care enough about
to be able to rewind and rewatch bits.

-- wds

William December Starr

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Oct 4, 2012, 5:01:08 PM10/4/12
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In article <031020121616199834%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,
Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> said:

> Reminds me of a commercial more than fifty years ago promoting
> Johnny Carson's afternoon game show, Who Do You Trust? Carson and
> (possibly) a stage manager were shown arguing about how the name
> of the show should be Whom Do You Trust?, with the stage manager
> insisting they change the name of the show and Carson trying to
> stall him off so he could finish the commercial.
>
> I guess it made an impression on me.

"What do you want? Good grammar or lung cancer?"

-- wds

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 4, 2012, 11:23:14 PM10/4/12
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On 10/2/2012 8:26 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <k4g6vj$bsv$3...@news.albasani.net>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
>>
>>>> When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you remember
>>>> to disconnect the coax first?
>>
>>> Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
>>> automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
>>> drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
>>> longer a technology worth embracing.
>>
>> Are you recording on VCR, then?
>
> I'm not recording at all
>
Because the current season is the Weeping Angel of television seasons?

--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with caffeine
pills, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate wouldn't
tolerate.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 4, 2012, 11:25:56 PM10/4/12
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Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 10/2/2012 8:26 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

>>>>>When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you remember
>>>>>to disconnect the coax first?

>>>>Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
>>>>automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
>>>>drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
>>>>longer a technology worth embracing.

>>>Are you recording on VCR, then?

>>I'm not recording at all

>Because the current season is the Weeping Angel of television seasons?

It really is, isn't it.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 5, 2012, 12:42:07 AM10/5/12
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In article <k4lk04$lf5$1...@news.albasani.net>,
So I should, or should not, blink?

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 5, 2012, 1:18:44 AM10/5/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>On 10/2/2012 8:26 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P

>>>>>>>When did this happen? How far were you able to fling it? Did you
>>>>>>>remember to disconnect the coax first?

>>>>>>Months ago. It wasn't loading the program guide, so I called the
>>>>>>automated COX line to do the heavy duty reboot, and they fried the hard
>>>>>>drive. All my shows lost, for like the 6th time. I decided this was no
>>>>>>longer a technology worth embracing.

>>>>>Are you recording on VCR, then?

>>>>I'm not recording at all

>>>Because the current season is the Weeping Angel of television seasons?

>>It really is, isn't it.

>So I should, or should not, blink?

Good question. They might send you back in time to the brilliant, adult
comedies of the 1970's. Or, they might send you back to the horrid family
comedies of the 1960's.

You'd be taking a real chance either way.

Your Name

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Oct 5, 2012, 1:29:54 AM10/5/12
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In article <anim8rfsk-C15D9...@news.easynews.com>, anim8rFSK
If you blink fast enough the shows will look like they're done in ye olde
cinema style. If you blink / wink alternate eyes fast enough they'll look
like there in modern 3D style. ;-)


Note: Kids, do not try that at home, espcially if you have epilepsy.

Jim G.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:53:17 -0700:
I like the actress who plays Hetty, but I'm still pretty sure that
you're both misspelling "Kensi."

Jim G.

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Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
Like me. Heck, I'll even give sporting events a decent head start, just
so long as I catch up by the end.

> I presume the Live+3 numbers reflect people who actually
> watch the recording, not just the people who record it.

If you're one of the .0000001% of the viewers who matter to Nielsen and
their incredibly representative and not-outdated system.

> So this shows
> that lots of people are watching their Revolution recordings.

All I know is that it's not *necessarily* a pejorative to be considered
a DVR show.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 5, 2012, 5:25:34 PM10/5/12
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In article <2t0s689cfukv7rpp6...@4ax.com>,
I'm *so* far behind my Lost Girls ...

anim8rFSK

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Oct 5, 2012, 5:26:51 PM10/5/12
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In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
> > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
> > > > In article
> > > > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD to
> > > > > > > L+3,
> > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >     łRevolution˛ grew from last Mondayąs łlive plus same day˛
> > > > > > > rating
> > > > > > > (3.45) to łlive plus three day˛ (5.19) by 1.74 points, breaking
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > showąs record from the previous week for the largest increase
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > > > > > >     In L+3, Week 2 of łRevolution˛ finished within 5 percent of
> > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and thatąs despite the arrival
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres of
> > > > > > > łHawaii
> > > > > > > Five-0˛ and łCastle.˛
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seems to me that the DVR bump is BECAUSE of the time-period
> > > > > > competition.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, it's saying Revolution is the last thing people want to watch.
> > >
> > > To be fair, though, I'm *much* more likely to record the show that I'll
> > > be more likely to rewatch, so getting DVR status is usually a compliment
> > > in my case. And since the Nielsen people don't like me, it doesn't
> > > matter in the least as far as helping or hurting the show's ratings is
> > > concerned.
> >
> > And many DVR owners record practically everything, and hardly watch
> > anything live.
>
> Like me. Heck, I'll even give sporting events a decent head start, just
> so long as I catch up by the end.
>
> > I presume the Live+3 numbers reflect people who actually
> > watch the recording, not just the people who record it.
>
> If you're one of the .0000001% of the viewers who matter to Nielsen and
> their incredibly representative and not-outdated system.
>
> > So this shows
> > that lots of people are watching their Revolution recordings.
>
> All I know is that it's not *necessarily* a pejorative to be considered
> a DVR show.

No, but "more people recorded it when it had competition than when it
was all alone" doesn't tell me that it's the first choice.

shawn

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Oct 5, 2012, 6:35:05 PM10/5/12
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No, I think they've got it right. Without Linda Hunt the show would
lose too much of the cohesiveness. Daniella is very attractive but it
really is Linda that helps put the show on a must watch basis.

David Barnett

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Oct 5, 2012, 9:00:44 PM10/5/12
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In article <barmar-2D66AF....@news.eternal-
september.org>, bar...@alum.mit.edu says...
<snip>
>
> And many DVR owners record practically everything, and hardly watch
> anything live. I presume the Live+3 numbers reflect people who actually
> watch the recording, not just the people who record it. So this shows
> that lots of people are watching their Revolution recordings.

I'm one of those! with a few exceptions.
I have been watching Doctor Who as it airs, & plan to it
again tonight. Likewise for snippets of news, whilst
having breakfast.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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Oct 5, 2012, 9:14:06 PM10/5/12
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In article <2t0s689cfukv7rpp6...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
I like Kensi also, but not enough to keep watching the
show sans Hetty.
I wish all actors had as good diction as the actress who
plays Hetty.
--
David Barnett

kensi

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Oct 7, 2012, 10:36:52 PM10/7/12
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Aww ...

Oh, wait, wrong kensi. :)

--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

Jim G.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:25:34 -0700:
Is there a Kensi on LG, too? I'm referring to the tall and very pretty
Kensi character on NCIS:LA.

Jim G.

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shawn sent the following on Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:35:05 -0400:
For me, the excess of tech magic killed it for me long ago, despite the
presence of both women.

Jim G.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:26:51 -0700:
Yeah, that's some weird math. I'd have to have some idea of why more
recorded it in that case. It could just be that some folks simply
skipped the first episode and came aboard after falling for the spin put
out by NBC. Or the opinions of their friends who have low standards. :)

anim8rFSK

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Oct 8, 2012, 4:16:11 PM10/8/12
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In article <547678lrks5idi0ut...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:26:51 -0700:
> > In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
> > > > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
> > > > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13�pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > �David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From L+SD
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > L+3,
> > > > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > � � �Revolution� grew from last Monday�s �live plus same day�
> > > > > > > > > rating
> > > > > > > > > (3.45) to �live plus three day� (5.19) by 1.74 points,
> > > > > > > > > breaking
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > show�s record from the previous week for the largest increase
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> > > > > > > > > � � In L+3, Week 2 of �Revolution� finished within 5 percent
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that�s despite the
> > > > > > > > > arrival
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season premieres
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > �Hawaii
> > > > > > > > > Five-0� and �Castle.�
My best spin to make it sound favorable would involve people NOT
recording premieres, but setting season passes AFTER liking the first ep
(note that this is almost impossible to do with COX). That would
involve really stupid usage of the DVR, but, hey.

David Barnett

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In article <g376789psttua4171...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
"tech magic" seems to be in a lot of TV shows.
For example: NCIS, Criminal Minds, the CSIs.
--
David Barnett

Mason Barge

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:42:37 -0500, Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid>
She's the primary supporting character. Not in Daniella Ruah's league in
the looks department, but the character is a lot more interesting.

shawn

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:42:37 -0500, Jim G.
Yes, there is. Both are good looking. Although the Kenzi on "Lost
Girl" has much more personality than the Kensi on "NCIS: Los Angeles."

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0989959/ Ksenia Solo
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2079733/ Daniela Ruah

Dragon Lady

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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
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The fact that they record it at all means it not their first choice. But
that's still not the same thing as "the last thing people want to watch."

Dragon Lady

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Brilliant adult comedies of the 1970's? You mean like "All in the Family"?
Because I hated that show when it was on, and I hate it even more now.

Adam H. Kerman

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I liked it a lot in early seasons, before they started changing Archie
from a bastard into a curmudgeon.

But I was thinking of early seasons of Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart
and WKRP in Cincinatti.

Dimensional Traveler

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Um, I record all my first choices. Largely because I don't have the
time to watch anything live.


--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.

anim8rFSK

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In article <k4vsdh$3bh$1...@dont-email.me>,
Not at all; I always recorded my first choice, in case of phone or
doorbell or whatever wackiness might ensue.

But
> that's still not the same thing as "the last thing people want to watch."

David Barnett

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In article <50738039$0$71230$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
dtr...@sonic.net says...
>
> On 10/8/2012 5:51 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
> >
> > "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:anim8rfsk-1420C...@news.easynews.com...
> >> In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
> >> Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
> >>> > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
> >>> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
> >>> > > > In article
> >>> > > >
> >>> <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From
> >>> L+SD > > > > > > to
> >>> > > > > > > L+3,
> >>> > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > ³Revolution² grew from last Monday¹s ³live plus same day²
> >>> > > > > > > rating
> >>> > > > > > > (3.45) to ³live plus three day² (5.19) by 1.74 points, >
> >>> > > > > > breaking
> >>> > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > show¹s record from the previous week for the largest
> >>> increase
> >>> > > > > > > from
> >>> > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
> >>> > > > > > > In L+3, Week 2 of ³Revolution² finished within 5 percent of
> >>> > > > > > > its
> >>> > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that¹s despite the >
> >>> > > > > > arrival
> >>> > > > > > > in
> >>> > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season
> >>> premieres > > > > > > of
> >>> > > > > > > ³Hawaii
> >>> > > > > > > Five-0² and ³Castle.²
As I've mentioned before, I watch mainly recordings in
case of interruptions such as phones & doorbells. Also, as
you imply above, FF thru commercials saves time.

This thread is a case of degeneration becoming more
interesting.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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In article <anim8rfsk-B4A774.21442208102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
<snip>
> I always recorded my first choice, in case of phone or
> doorbell or whatever wackiness might ensue.

That was in the past, as you say you don't record anything
now. So you don't mind being interrupted now?

--
David Barnett

anim8rFSK

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In article <MPG.2adf3252e...@news.bigpond.com>,
I mind it, but I'm not going to keep paying COX for non working
technology.

~consul

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'tis on this 10/4/2012 4:57 PM, wrote William December Starr thus to say:
> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
>> It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside
>> the worst show on television to maybe watch later.
> I'm with the "If I really want to watch something, I record it"
> crowd. Live viewing is for the stuff I don't care enough about
> to be able to rewind and rewatch bits.

That's how i am with conflicting times for shows, but also I'll tape stuff that my wife doesn't realllllly want to watch with me.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

Dragon Lady

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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:anim8rfsk-24578...@news.easynews.com...
> In article <k4g86l$q6c$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:anim8rfsk-EE457...@news.easynews.com...
>> > In article <k4g4l8$bff$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:anim8rfsk-86858...@news.easynews.com...
>> >> > In article <k4dbpt$jdm$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> >> > "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:anim8rfsk-D6144...@news.easynews.com...
>> >> >> So...you're saying you set up your DVR to record shows you're not
>> >> >> going
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> watch????
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't have a DVR, and that's not what I said anyway. :P
>> >>
>> >> So what's the DVR bump, if it's not an increase in recordings?
>> >
>> > It means people are watching other shows live, and putting aside the
>> > worst show on television to maybe watch later. And if they don't watch
>> > it within a certain time span, it doesn't count towards the ratings at
>> > all.
>>
>> Beside the point. If said people really regarded it as the worst show on
>> television, they would not be recording it at all.
>
> I regard it as the worst show on television, and I'm watching just to
> discuss it here.

I don't understand why you want to watch, let alone discuss, a show you
don't even like, but to each his own I guess. However, I guarantee you most
of the people watching this show are not here. :P

Dragon Lady

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"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in message
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Mary Tyler Moore - I thought that was the 60's? I did like Newhart and
WKRP. My daughter, it seems, is named for Jennifer on WKRP - it was one of
the few shows my husband and I both liked.

Dragon Lady

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"Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> On 10/8/2012 5:51 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:anim8rfsk-1420C...@news.easynews.com...
>>> In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
>>> Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
>>>> > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
>>>> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
>>>> > > > In article
>>>> > > >
>>>> <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From
>>>> L+SD > > > > > > to
>>>> > > > > > > L+3,
>>>> > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > �Revolution� grew from last Monday�s �live plus same day�
>>>> > > > > > > rating
>>>> > > > > > > (3.45) to �live plus three day� (5.19) by 1.74 points, >
>>>> > > > > > breaking
>>>> > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > show�s record from the previous week for the largest
>>>> increase
>>>> > > > > > > from
>>>> > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
>>>> > > > > > > In L+3, Week 2 of �Revolution� finished within 5 percent of
>>>> > > > > > > its
>>>> > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that�s despite the >
>>>> > > > > > arrival
>>>> > > > > > > in
>>>> > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season
>>>> premieres > > > > > > of
>>>> > > > > > > �Hawaii
>>>> > > > > > > Five-0� and �Castle.�
Heh. Yeah, but you're an anomaly, DT!

Dragon Lady

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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In article <k4vsdh$3bh$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Dragon Lady" <sgt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:anim8rfsk-1420C...@news.easynews.com...
>> > In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
>> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
>> >> > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
>> >> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
>> >> > > > In article
>> >> > > > <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu>
>> >> > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From
>> >> > > > > > > L+SD
>> >> > > > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > > L+3,
>> >> > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > �Revolution� grew from last Monday�s �live plus same day�
>> >> > > > > > > rating
>> >> > > > > > > (3.45) to �live plus three day� (5.19) by 1.74 points,
>> >> > > > > > > breaking
>> >> > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > show�s record from the previous week for the largest
>> >> > > > > > > increase
>> >> > > > > > > from
>> >> > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
>> >> > > > > > > In L+3, Week 2 of �Revolution� finished within 5 percent
>> >> > > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > > its
>> >> > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and that�s despite the
>> >> > > > > > > arrival
>> >> > > > > > > in
>> >> > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season
>> >> > > > > > > premieres
>> >> > > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > > �Hawaii
>> >> > > > > > > Five-0� and �Castle.�
If you're trying to make my case, you're doing a good job of it! :D

I no longer bother, because everything I watch shows up on Comcast's On
Demand within a couple of days, and with fewer commercials in most cases.


Adam H. Kerman

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Fall quarter, 1970. Well, that wig she wore during first season should have
been sent back to the 1960's. I didn't know it was a wig at the time, but
it wasn't flattering.

>I did like Newhart and WKRP. My daughter, it seems, is named for Jennifer
>on WKRP - it was one of the few shows my husband and I both liked.

I preferred Bailey. I loved Jan Smithers.

anim8rFSK

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In article <k55as7$cs2$3...@news.albasani.net>,
+1

Professor Bubba

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In article <anim8rfsk-256D4...@news.easynews.com>,
I saw her at Disneyland once, just one of the throng. She was licking
an ice cream cone. I kid you not.

I wouldn't have cared if it had been Loni Anderson.

Dimensional Traveler

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So are most of the people not watching this show.

Dimensional Traveler

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On 10/10/2012 7:18 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>
> "Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:50738039$0$71230$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> On 10/8/2012 5:51 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>>
>>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:anim8rfsk-1420C...@news.easynews.com...
>>>> In article <ot0s68d1aad8nt7em...@4ax.com>,
>>>> Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Barry Margolin sent the following on Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:57:34 -0400:
>>>>> > In article <ngam68hioflirke2h...@4ax.com>,
>>>>> > Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > anim8rFSK sent the following on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:07:12 -0700:
>>>>> > > > In article
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> <12652c56-3400-41e3...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> > > > wolfagain <wo...@provide.net> wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > On Sep 30, 8:13 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > In article <toqh6851ni08t5trqarbc6uo725am72...@4ax.com>,
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > "Revolution" Breaks Its NBC Record for Biggest Jump From
>>>>> L+SD > > > > > > to
>>>>> > > > > > > L+3,
>>>>> > > > > > > Finishes Within 5% of Premiere Rating
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > L+3 Results for Mon-Tues 9/24-25/12:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > łRevolution˛ grew from last Mondayąs łlive plus same day˛
>>>>> > > > > > > rating
>>>>> > > > > > > (3.45) to łlive plus three day˛ (5.19) by 1.74 points, >
>>>>> > > > > > breaking
>>>>> > > > > > > the
>>>>> > > > > > > showąs record from the previous week for the largest
>>>>> increase
>>>>> > > > > > > from
>>>>> > > > > > > L+SD to L+3 ever for an NBC telecast.
>>>>> > > > > > > In L+3, Week 2 of łRevolution˛ finished within 5
>>>>> percent of
>>>>> > > > > > > its
>>>>> > > > > > > premiere rating (5.19 vs. 5.45), and thatąs despite the >
>>>>> > > > > > arrival
>>>>> > > > > > > in
>>>>> > > > > > > Week 2 of time-period competition from the season
>>>>> premieres > > > > > > of
>>>>> > > > > > > łHawaii
>>>>> > > > > > > Five-0˛ and łCastle.˛
And here I was thinking it was the crap economy but no, its just me
being weird as usual.

Dragon Lady

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"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in message
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That was a wig? That explains a few things!

>
>>I did like Newhart and WKRP. My daughter, it seems, is named for Jennifer
>>on WKRP - it was one of the few shows my husband and I both liked.
>
> I preferred Bailey. I loved Jan Smithers.

So did I. I didn't know at the time we named her that Jennifer was why he
preferred that name! *LOL*

Dragon Lady

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"Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Well, you never know, I could be wrong. Personally, I've always perferred
being the anomaly, though!

Jim G.

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Mason Barge sent the following on Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:06:53 -0400:
They hadn't gotten around to giving Ruah much of a personality in
NCIS:LA before I bailed on it. I take it that things haven't changed all
that much?

Jim G.

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David Barnett sent the following on Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:18:09 +1100:
For me, it's to the point where it can kill a show for me in a hurry. In
fact, if NCIS were a new show today, I doubt that I'd get past three eps
because of all of the stupid on the technical front. But I've grown to
like the characters, so I roll my eyes and look the other way. But even
on NCIS, it seems to be getting worse and worse. That and the fact that
the overall writing has really gone downhill post-Director Shepherd has
me thinking that I may not make it to the series finale, after all. JLC
almost got me to bail last year, but I stuck it out. And while she
hasn't been seen since, the writing is even more lame this year.

Jim G.

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David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:15:42 +1100:
> Also, as
> you imply above, FF thru commercials saves time.

This is a *huge* consideration for me. I like being able to watch two
complete "hour-long" shows in 90 minutes, and the same goes for sports.
I love being able to watch a four-hour football game in the same 90
minutes or so.

And saved TV entertainment time equals more entertainment time to spend
on novels and comics. And snarking on USENET, of course. :)

anim8rFSK

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In article <fl2h78575qftqf86t...@4ax.com>,
NCIS truly peaked with Jenny Shepard. Just ask Ian!

shawn

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:20:41 -0500, Jim G.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

>David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:15:42 +1100:
>> Also, as
>> you imply above, FF thru commercials saves time.
>
>This is a *huge* consideration for me. I like being able to watch two
>complete "hour-long" shows in 90 minutes, and the same goes for sports.
>I love being able to watch a four-hour football game in the same 90
>minutes or so.
>
>And saved TV entertainment time equals more entertainment time to spend
>on novels and comics. And snarking on USENET, of course. :)

That's the really annoying thing about trying to watch NBC shows On
Demand. They disable fast forward so a 40 minute show can take 50-60
minutes to watch because they throw in multiple ads.

anim8rFSK

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In article <ab9i78pjq1kdhtd76...@4ax.com>,
And no pause either. JUST SIT AND WATCH THE DAMN THING. Especially
annoying if you just missed the end.

Jim G.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:59 -0700:
I'm still trying to figure out why some people are "icking" Lauren
Holly's looks on ALPHAS. I'm not even much of a fan of redheads and even
I think that she looks terrific for her age there. Heck, she looks
pretty terrific, period.

Jim G.

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shawn sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:26:36 -0400:
I wonder if they think that that will get people to watch *them* live
and go online to watch the other networks. But that's surely going to
backfire on them, as a lot of people will simply turn to the pirate
route if the network makes online viewing so tedious for people who
would *prefer* to play by the rules.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 15, 2012, 7:04:49 PM10/15/12
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In article <4lho78tsoshghtbco...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> shawn sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:26:36 -0400:
> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:20:41 -0500, Jim G.
> > <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:15:42 +1100:
> > >> Also, as
> > >> you imply above, FF thru commercials saves time.
> > >
> > >This is a *huge* consideration for me. I like being able to watch two
> > >complete "hour-long" shows in 90 minutes, and the same goes for sports.
> > >I love being able to watch a four-hour football game in the same 90
> > >minutes or so.
> > >
> > >And saved TV entertainment time equals more entertainment time to spend
> > >on novels and comics. And snarking on USENET, of course. :)
> >
> > That's the really annoying thing about trying to watch NBC shows On
> > Demand. They disable fast forward so a 40 minute show can take 50-60
> > minutes to watch because they throw in multiple ads.
>
> I wonder if they think that that will get people to watch *them* live
> and go online to watch the other networks. But that's surely going to
> backfire on them, as a lot of people will simply turn to the pirate
> route if the network makes online viewing so tedious for people who
> would *prefer* to play by the rules.

Even if the point is to make you watch the commercials ... why disable
'pause'? Besides, I've seen models where you are allowed to fast
forward, but not past the commercial breaks.

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 15, 2012, 9:18:44 PM10/15/12
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On 10/15/2012 12:13 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> shawn sent the following on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:26:36 -0400:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:20:41 -0500, Jim G.
>> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:15:42 +1100:
>>>> Also, as
>>>> you imply above, FF thru commercials saves time.
>>>
>>> This is a *huge* consideration for me. I like being able to watch two
>>> complete "hour-long" shows in 90 minutes, and the same goes for sports.
>>> I love being able to watch a four-hour football game in the same 90
>>> minutes or so.
>>>
>>> And saved TV entertainment time equals more entertainment time to spend
>>> on novels and comics. And snarking on USENET, of course. :)
>>
>> That's the really annoying thing about trying to watch NBC shows On
>> Demand. They disable fast forward so a 40 minute show can take 50-60
>> minutes to watch because they throw in multiple ads.
>
> I wonder if they think that that will get people to watch *them* live
> and go online to watch the other networks. But that's surely going to
> backfire on them, as a lot of people will simply turn to the pirate
> route if the network makes online viewing so tedious for people who
> would *prefer* to play by the rules.
>
No, the point of it is that if people view the show within three days of
original airing AND it has the same commercials then any online viewings
can be counted towards the Nielsen ratings. Disabling FF is just part
of that.

The rules aren't made for the viewers' benefit. They are made for the
network's customer's benefit.

Ian J. Ball

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Oct 15, 2012, 10:03:21 PM10/15/12
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In article <cjho78dcao5tnf3vc...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:59 -0700:
> >
> > NCIS truly peaked with Jenny Shepard. Just ask Ian!
>
> I'm still trying to figure out why some people are "icking" Lauren
> Holly's looks on ALPHAS. I'm not even much of a fan of redheads and even
> I think that she looks terrific for her age there. Heck, she looks
> pretty terrific, period.

Charitably: you're nuts!!

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

David Barnett

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Oct 16, 2012, 1:30:57 AM10/16/12
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In article <anim8rfsk-69E129.16044915102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
Our Channel 7 does that on their web site.
It usen't to, and I got a shock when that happened to me
once.
When you miss a show with any of our channels you can
catch up sometimes on their web site. I rarely have to do
that, and there are often better means. No problems with
the cable channels due to all their repeats.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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Oct 16, 2012, 1:32:57 AM10/16/12
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In article <507cb5ef$0$71225$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
dtr...@sonic.net says...
If it is of little benefit to the viewers, then they are
wasting their resources.

--
David Barnett

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 16, 2012, 9:29:06 PM10/16/12
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You are not the networks' customer. You are the product they are selling.
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