NOMB but how many people here make a living writing as a creative author?
Bozo
-BdN-
Lawrence Watt-Evans
wrote:
>Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
gone as I think they are.
--
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
I'm selling my comic collection -- see http://www.watt-evans.com/comics.html
I'm serializing a novel at http://www.watt-evans.com/realmsoflight0.html
Lawrence Watt-Evans
wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Bozo <Bozo_D...@37.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>gone as I think they are.
Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
one.
htn963
> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>
> -BdN-
If the key word is "creative" then none.
--
Ht
Kurt Busiek
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Bozo <Bozo_D...@37.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>> gone as I think they are.
>
> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
> one.
Hello? Talking to you earlier today and everything!
I'm not predominantly a prose writer, but given that Boze posted to
sf.tv, I don't think he was limiting it to that. I've been a full-time
freelance writer since September 1990.
kdb
Lawrence Watt-Evans
wrote:
Yes, of course. You're a full-time writer. But is that the same
thing as an author? I read it as "author" meaning "writer of prose
books."
Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
Kurt Busiek
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:54:04 -0700, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-04-23 20:38:18 -0700, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Bozo <Bozo_D...@37.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>>>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>>>> gone as I think they are.
>>>
>>> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
>>> one.
>>
>> Hello? Talking to you earlier today and everything!
>>
>> I'm not predominantly a prose writer, but given that Boze posted to
>> sf.tv, I don't think he was limiting it to that. I've been a full-time
>> freelance writer since September 1990.
>
> Yes, of course. You're a full-time writer. But is that the same
> thing as an author? I read it as "author" meaning "writer of prose
> books."
I didn't, since he asked on sf.tv as well.
But in general, I wouldn't limit "author" to prose. The American
Heritage Dictionary offers "One who practices writing as a profession,"
eliminating letter-writers and amateurs, and adds a usage note saying
basically that an author is someone responsible for the content of a
published text, thus again eliminating non-published writers (and ghost
writers as well, they say, on the ground that the ghost writer is
working anonymously, and William Shatner's taking the credit. Well,
okay, they didn't say it quite that way).
The Random House Dictionary specifically goes beyond prose -- "a person
who writes a novel, poem, essay, etc." -- and specifically rules out
the editor or packager; it needs to be the person who compsed the work.
WordNet says it someone who "writes (books or stories or articles or
the like) professionally (for pay)."
All that aside, I think of "author" as meaning a professional writer of
fiction, which conflicts with the definitions above here and there.
And I suppose if someone called Robert Caro the author of his LBJ bios,
I wouldn't kick, even though that's non-fiction.
And over 19 million web-pages include both the words "Shakespeare" and
"author," for whatever that's worth.
> Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
> honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
Beats me. But I'd guess he was including them what write teleplays as well.
kdb
Mike Schilling
If it includes creating software, then me and several other folks too.
Ken from Chicago
"Lawrence Watt-Evans" <l...@sff.net> wrote in message
news:9ae2v4pfe0vrbt9if...@nntp.motzarella.org...
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:54:04 -0700, Kurt Busiek <ku...@busiek.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2009-04-23 20:38:18 -0700, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Bozo <Bozo_D...@37.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>>>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>>>> gone as I think they are.
>>>
>>> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
>>> one.
>>
>>Hello? Talking to you earlier today and everything!
>>
>>I'm not predominantly a prose writer, but given that Boze posted to
>>sf.tv, I don't think he was limiting it to that. I've been a full-time
>>freelance writer since September 1990.
>
> Yes, of course. You're a full-time writer. But is that the same
> thing as an author? I read it as "author" meaning "writer of prose
> books."
>
> Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
> honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
As opposed to nonfiction writer or news reporter?
You (pro) fiction writers "create" the story.
> --
> My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
> I'm selling my comic collection -- see
> http://www.watt-evans.com/comics.html
> I'm serializing a novel at http://www.watt-evans.com/realmsoflight0.html
-- Ken from Chicago (who sporadically creates stories nonprofessionally)
Ken from Chicago
"Kurt Busiek" <ku...@busiek.com> wrote in message
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As last years screenwriters strike amply demonstrated, those screenplays
don't write themselves.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uWdIl.30803$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
Excellent points, video games, websites, computer programs often include
very detailed, very involved, very creative stories.
-- Ken from Chicago
Bill Snyder
wrote:
Snark much?
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
But you do work in *comic books*! You can't POSSIBLY be a CREATIVE
author! :)
grendelkhan
> "Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uWdIl.30803$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>> On 2009-04-23 21:04:19 -0700, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> said:
>>>> Yes, of course. You're a full-time writer. But is that the same
>>>> thing as an author? I read it as "author" meaning "writer of prose
>>>> books."
>>>
>>> All that aside, I think of "author" as meaning a professional writer
>>> of fiction, which conflicts with the definitions above here and there.
>>> And I suppose if someone called Robert Caro the author of his LBJ
>>> bios, I wouldn't kick, even though that's non-fiction.
>>>
>>> And over 19 million web-pages include both the words "Shakespeare" and
>>> "author," for whatever that's worth.
>>>
>>>> Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
>>>> honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
>>>
>>> Beats me. But I'd guess he was including them what write teleplays as
>>> well.
>>
>> If it includes creating software, then me and several other folks too.
>
> Excellent points, video games, websites, computer programs often include
> very detailed, very involved, very creative stories.
Yeah, but they don't necessarily. I write and document some software for
my day job (though it's not my primary responsibility), and it can bear
as much resemblance to creative writing as, say, cooking does.
I'm not saying that it doesn't count; I'm just saying that it's like
saying "I work in television"--the specification encompasses both
possibilities which are inside the desired set and outside of it.
grendelkhan
Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
> > honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
>
> As opposed to nonfiction writer or news reporter?
>
> You (pro) fiction writers "create" the story.
So do a lot of news reporters.
--
Bad Reboot's 'Crap Trek' 2009: "No Shat, No Show"
Rated "least anticipated film of 2009" by ETOnline
Louann Miller
>>I'm not predominantly a prose writer, but given that Boze posted to
>>sf.tv, I don't think he was limiting it to that. I've been a full-time
>>freelance writer since September 1990.
>
> Yes, of course. You're a full-time writer. But is that the same
> thing as an author? I read it as "author" meaning "writer of prose
> books."
>
> Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
> honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
General preference for polysylables?
I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
I guess that lets in Sea Wasp too, in my terms.
Kurt Busiek
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> said:
It's tough, it is, walking that line between being a debased comic book
writer, unloved and sneered at, and being a graphic novelist, the new
hip thing and wellspring of the future.
If I could only figure out the difference...
kdb
Mike Schilling
> It's tough, it is, walking that line between being a debased comic
> book writer, unloved and sneered at, and being a graphic novelist,
> the new hip thing and wellspring of the future.
>
> If I could only figure out the difference...
Graphic violence vs. comic relief?
Paul Clarke
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
> >might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
> >gone as I think they are.
>
> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
> one.
Brenda Clough too, I think.
Kurt Busiek
<mscotts...@hotmail.com> said:
Dessert topping! Floor wax!
I note with wry amusement that on Amazon's current rankings of the 25
bestselling graphic novels, one can find THE GRAVEYARD BOOK, BLUEBERRY
GIRL, STARDUST and CORALINE.
Not the graphic-novel adaptation of CORALINE, though.
kdb
Dennis L. McKiernan
Me too.
--
Dennis L McKiernan: http://www.mithgar.com
Author of the Mithgar series, the Faery series, and other works
himiko
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Bozo <Bozo_De_N...@37.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
> gone as I think they are.
Nope. I do it too. I don't know that I'd call it a living, but it's
what I do. Fortunately, I have some private funds and I get paid jobs
speaking and doing workshops. I used to teach, but I'm not doing that
at the moment.
himiko
Louann Miller
1ed4b7...@x29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>> >Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
> Nope. I do it too. I don't know that I'd call it a living, but it's
> what I do. Fortunately, I have some private funds and I get paid jobs
> speaking and doing workshops. I used to teach, but I'm not doing that
> at the moment.
It took me a long time as a media fan to realize that most actors -- people
you've actually heard of who are in shows and things off and on over a
period of years -- are probably doing something else for actual income most
of the time.
Something like plumber or electrician sounds like a good move.
htn963
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:49:51 -0700 (PDT), htn963 <htn...@live.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 23, 6:37 pm, Bozo <Bozo_De_N...@37.com> wrote:
> >> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>
> >> -BdN-
>
> >If the key word is "creative" then none.
>
> Snark much?
3/10 on the built-in meter. Plenty of capacity left.
--
Ht
himiko
> himiko <himiko...@gmail.com> wrote in news:444d4fb0-c6a6-4a25-bce5-
> 1ed4b7181...@x29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> >Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
> > Nope. I do it too. I don't know that I'd call it a living, but it's
> > what I do. Fortunately, I have some private funds and I get paid jobs
> > speaking and doing workshops. I used to teach, but I'm not doing that
> > at the moment.
>
> It took me a long time as a media fan to realize that most actors -- people
> you've actually heard of who are in shows and things off and on over a
> period of years -- are probably doing something else for actual income most
> of the time.
Yep. There's big money at the top, but only a very few make it to
that level. This is true in almost all the arts.
> Something like plumber or electrician sounds like a good move.
Depends on if you want/need to travel. These skills are always in
high demand, but a lot of places demand local licensing. Which
reminds me that I need to call someone to come over and look at my
toilet. ;)
himiko
Bill Snyder
wrote:
>On Apr 24, 3:51 am, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:49:51 -0700 (PDT), htn963 <htn...@live.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Apr 23, 6:37 pm, Bozo <Bozo_De_N...@37.com> wrote:
>> >> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>>
>> >> -BdN-
>>
>> >If the key word is "creative" then none.
>>
>> Snark much?
>
>3/10 on the built-in meter. Plenty of capacity left.
You consider none of the regulars who are authors to be creative,
you consider no SF author to be creative, you deny the existence
of creativity in general, or what?
Anim8rFSK
wrote:
Larry Niven says the difference is that you can read a comic book in the
bathtub 'cause it has staples and won't come apart.
But then, he does make a living writing as a creative writer.
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-A09B9...@news.easynews.com...
> In article <iYCdnYtOoc-5GGzU...@giganews.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> > Or, you know, if you don't see it that way, I could be wrong. But
>> > honestly, if he meant "writer," why say "creative author"?
>>
>> As opposed to nonfiction writer or news reporter?
>>
>> You (pro) fiction writers "create" the story.
>
> So do a lot of news reporters.
Liar! News reporters only write just the facts, man.
Besides, we know it's really the COMPUTERS doing the creating.
Just like animation.
-- Ken from Chicago (g, d, r, r, r!)
Ken from Chicago
> On 2009-04-24 09:58:31 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> <mscotts...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>> It's tough, it is, walking that line between being a debased comic
>>> book writer, unloved and sneered at, and being a graphic novelist,
>>> the new hip thing and wellspring of the future.
>>>
>>> If I could only figure out the difference...
>>
>> Graphic violence vs. comic relief?
>
> Dessert topping! Floor wax!
You can slice, dice AND make julienne fries?!!?!
> I note with wry amusement that on Amazon's current rankings of the 25
> bestselling graphic novels, one can find THE GRAVEYARD BOOK, BLUEBERRY
> GIRL, STARDUST and CORALINE.
>
> Not the graphic-novel adaptation of CORALINE, though.
>
> kdb
Amazon ranks the novels most graphic?
-- Ken from Chicago
Lawrence Watt-Evans
<dl...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Paul Clarke wrote:
>> On 24 Apr, 04:38, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>>>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>>>> gone as I think they are.
>>> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
>>> one.
>>
>> Brenda Clough too, I think.
She has a day job.
>Me too.
Ah, I thought you'd left.
arch...@googlemail.com
> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
I do.
Not a great living, not like the money I used to make as a corporate
and political speechwriter, but this is way more fun.
I've made my living as a writer all my life. Last job where I didn't
write for my daily bread was delivering groceries in 1972. A drunk
rear-ended me and wrecked my car, so I couldn't work as a reporter.
Matt Hughes
http://www.archonate.com
Bozo
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:28:12 -0500, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't know why but I started laughing uncontrollably at the
serendipity in most of these replies, thanks.
-BdN-
Louann Miller
@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>> >If the key word is "creative" then none.
>>
>> Snark much?
>
> 3/10 on the built-in meter. Plenty of capacity left.
You're smart to use the high-capacity model in a group like this.
But on usenet, it's the irony meters that really suffer.
Dennis L. McKiernan
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:06:44 GMT, "Dennis L. McKiernan"
> <dl...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> Paul Clarke wrote:
>>> On 24 Apr, 04:38, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>>>>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>>>>> gone as I think they are.
>>>> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
>>>> one.
>>> Brenda Clough too, I think.
>
> She has a day job.
>
>> Me too.
>
> Ah, I thought you'd left.
>
>
>
>
---Dennis
sca...@gmail.com
> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job. I do things other than
novel writing, but for the last couple of years, that's where the bulk
of my income has come from. In any event, I don't have to show up
anywhere and pretend like I'm working.
arch...@googlemail.com
> In any event, I don't have to show up
> anywhere and pretend like I'm working.
One of the things that I can look back on with satisfaction, now that
I'm about to turn sixty, is that I managed to escape the suit-and-tie,
five-day-a-week, yes, sir, no sir, three bags full, sir, life that
swallowed the souls of so many people I used to know, processing them
over the decades into small, gray turds left along the sides of the
road.
Freelancing was a chancy business, even when I "made it" as a
consulting speechwriter. But it beat the alternatives.
Matt Hughes
http://www.archonate.com
htn963
If we're actually going to have a serious conversation about art, then
I have no comment.
But allow me to sing for you:
"I dreamed a dream in times gone byyyyyyyyyy
When hope was high, and life's worth liviiiiiiiing..."
--
Ht
htn963
> htn963 <htn...@live.com> wrote in news:fa62b43e-07e7-4f96-a406-37786b5bc1d0
> @v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> >If the key word is "creative" then none.
>
> >> Snark much?
>
> > 3/10 on the built-in meter. Plenty of capacity left.
>
> You're smart to use the high-capacity model in a group like this.
No lack of material to pummel on, certainly.
> But on usenet, it's the irony meters that really suffer.
I must have worn that out on your favorite BAEN author.:)
--
Ht
Bill Snyder
wrote:
>On Apr 24, 4:31 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:19:53 -0700 (PDT), htn963 <htn...@live.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Apr 24, 3:51 am, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:49:51 -0700 (PDT), htn963 <htn...@live.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Apr 23, 6:37 pm, Bozo <Bozo_De_N...@37.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>>
>> >> >> -BdN-
>>
>> >> >If the key word is "creative" then none.
>>
>> >> Snark much?
>>
>> >3/10 on the built-in meter. Plenty of capacity left.
>>
>> You consider none of the regulars who are authors to be creative,
>> you consider no SF author to be creative, you deny the existence
>> of creativity in general, or what?
>
>If we're actually going to have a serious conversation about art, then
>I have no comment.
Then obviously we're not going to have a conversation, serious or
otherwise.
>But allow me to sing for you:
>
>"I dreamed a dream in times gone byyyyyyyyyy
>When hope was high, and life's worth liviiiiiiiing..."
Don't give up your day job.
Bozo
> Maybe not a living Spelling style but a living nonetheless.
>
> -BdN-
Frankly, I was looking for Schadenfreude, now I'm sorry I asked.
-BdN-
Lawrence Watt-Evans
<dl...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:06:44 GMT, "Dennis L. McKiernan"
>> <dl...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Clarke wrote:
>>>> On 24 Apr, 04:38, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:27:13 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only one, though I don't know who
>>>>>> might be lurking, and there are a couple of folks who may not be as
>>>>>> gone as I think they are.
>>>>> Oh, wait -- Charles Stross is still here, right? So I'm not the only
>>>>> one.
>>>> Brenda Clough too, I think.
>>
>> She has a day job.
>>
>>> Me too.
>>
>> Ah, I thought you'd left.
>>
>Nah, LWE. Still drop in almost daily to read what you have to say. :)
A shame I don't post every day, then.
Glad you're still around, though.
Louann Miller
5a8ef3...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
>
> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
Cool. Didn't know that.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe I do
count as a full-time SF author.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com
himiko
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> Louann Miller wrote:
> > sca...@gmail.com wrote in news:ae8570c2-ad61-494b-b908-
>
> >>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
> >>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
> >> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
>
> > Cool. Didn't know that.
>
> Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe I do
> count as a full-time SF author.
Well, it's certainly fiction of some sort. :)
himiko
Richard D. Latham
> Louann Miller wrote:
>> sca...@gmail.com wrote in news:ae8570c2-ad61-494b-b908-
>> 5a8ef3...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
>>>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
>>> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
>> Cool. Didn't know that.
>
> Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe I
> do count as a full-time SF author.
>
But is it hard SF or soft SF ?
--
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/* Heck, I don't even speak for myself */
/* Don't believe me ? Ask my wife :-) */
Richard D. Latham lat...@us.ibm.com
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>
>> Louann Miller wrote:
>>> sca...@gmail.com wrote in news:ae8570c2-ad61-494b-b908-
>>> 5a8ef3...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
>>>>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
>>>> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
>>> Cool. Didn't know that.
>> Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe I
>> do count as a full-time SF author.
>>
>
> But is it hard SF or soft SF ?
>
Hard enough to convince people we can DO this stuff if they just give
us money.
Jim Lovejoy
news:gt1n3d$q1d$1...@news.motzarella.org:
> Louann Miller wrote:
>> sca...@gmail.com wrote in news:ae8570c2-ad61-494b-b908-
>> 5a8ef3...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
>>>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
>>> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
>>
>> Cool. Didn't know that.
>
> Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe
> I do
> count as a full-time SF author.
>
Time to restart the thread on the line between Science Fiction and Fantasy.
Richard D. Latham
> Richard D. Latham wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>> Louann Miller wrote:
>>>> sca...@gmail.com wrote in news:ae8570c2-ad61-494b-b908-
>>>> 5a8ef3...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm with Kurt here. For example, if Scalzi's around he would count
>>>>>> because while he has a day job, his day job is ALSO writing.
>>>>> Actually, at the moment I don't have a day job.
>>>> Cool. Didn't know that.
>>> Well, my day job is mostly writing R&D/grant proposals. So maybe I
>>> do count as a full-time SF author.
>>>
>> But is it hard SF or soft SF ?
>>
>
> Hard enough to convince people we can DO this stuff if they just
> give us money.
>
Good for you.
Some of the R&D proposals I've seen were clearly on the fantasy side
of the SF vrs Fantasy line :-)