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Ken from Chicago
May 19, 2013, 10:22:42 AM5/19/13
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You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
if out of objective sequential order.
Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
River to kiss her to ... reset time.
Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
resets time.
However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach, so there. Still, another
ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
echo.)
Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
the real River.
Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
mixing up human genders.
-- Ken from Chicago
and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
if out of objective sequential order.
Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
River to kiss her to ... reset time.
Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
resets time.
However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach, so there. Still, another
ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
echo.)
Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
the real River.
Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
mixing up human genders.
-- Ken from Chicago
Adam H. Kerman
May 19, 2013, 10:42:08 AM5/19/13
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Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
Hahahahahahahaha
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
Clara's cuter than Al, though.
>Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
>original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
>would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
>ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
>mixing up human genders.
EGK
May 19, 2013, 11:15:20 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:22:42 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
>
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
The fact they can avoid time travel rules whenever the hell they feel like
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
>
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
it kind of makes you wonder why Amy and Rory couldn't be rescued, doesn't
it? The Doctor is all touchy-feely with this new companion though. Gotta
be something more going on there. lol
anim8rFSK
May 19, 2013, 11:45:18 AM5/19/13
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In article <knan05$639$1...@dont-email.me>,
himself first?
> who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
> of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
> somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
> telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
> Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
> time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
>
> In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
> one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
> promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
> 101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach,
Not to mention being the last Great Dragon
so there. Still, another
> ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
> eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
> echo.)
>
> Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
> meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
> much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
> revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
> the real River.
>
> Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
> original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
> would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
> ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
> mixing up human genders.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
> You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
> and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
> and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
> least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
> back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
> if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
> pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
> resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
> breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
> River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
> Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
> all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
> vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
For what nefarious purpose? Is he just so evil he wants everybody dead,
> and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
> and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
> least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
> back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
> if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
> pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
> resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
> breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
> River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
> Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
> all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
> vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
himself first?
>
> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
> accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
> only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
> moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
> resets time.
>
> However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
> gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
To be fair, Amy started waiting when she *was* a little girl
> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
> accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
> only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
> moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
> resets time.
>
> However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
> gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
> who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
> of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
> somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
> telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
> Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
> time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
>
> In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
> one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
> promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
> 101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach,
so there. Still, another
> ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
> eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
> echo.)
>
> Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
> meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
> much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
> revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
> the real River.
>
> Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
> original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
> would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
> ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
> mixing up human genders.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Arthur Lipscomb
May 19, 2013, 11:47:50 AM5/19/13
to
On 5/19/2013 7:22 AM, Ken from Chicago wrote:
> You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
> WHO and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for
> bigger and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in
> general), at least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time
> travel to just go back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions
> had consequences, even if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard
> gamblers pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in
> the universe resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and
> resets time. Doctor breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same
> moment and so he marries River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
> Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
> through all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum
> accelerator and vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the
> quantum accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to
> moment, now only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she
> relives those moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence
> put wrong AND ... resets time.
>
Hoping that the next Leap, will be the Leap home.
> You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
> WHO and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for
> bigger and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in
> general), at least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time
> travel to just go back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions
> had consequences, even if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard
> gamblers pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in
> the universe resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and
> resets time. Doctor breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same
> moment and so he marries River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
> Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
> through all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum
> accelerator and vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the
> quantum accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to
> moment, now only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she
> relives those moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence
> put wrong AND ... resets time.
>
snip
>
> Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River.
Of course, her holographic companion that only she can see and hear.
> Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River.
Together they travel through the Doctor's timeline to help history
along; give it a push where it's needed. :-)
Quantum Voyagers!
The Doctor
May 19, 2013, 5:01:32 PM5/19/13
to
In article <knan05$639$1...@dont-email.me>,
>
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
Given the Big Reset Button from the Time Wars, justified criticism.
>
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
>Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
>accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
>only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>resets time.
G.I. first then Clara, and it all makes sense
>
>However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
>gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
>who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
>of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
>somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
>telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
>Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
>time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
>
So far high.
>In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
>one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
>promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
>101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach, so there. Still, another
>ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
>eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
>echo.)
>
>Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
>meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
>much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
>revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
>the real River.
>
>Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
>original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
>would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
>ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
>mixing up human genders.
>
>-- Ken from Chicago
>
Well you have to pay attention from the very get go!
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Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
RTD just did not fit the bill.
>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR WHO
>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>if out of objective sequential order.
>
>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
>Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
>accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment, now
>only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>resets time.
>
>However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
>gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
>who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a child
>of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
>somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
>telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now that
>Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his own
>time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she soars.
>
>In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but the
>one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd break
>promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in Room
>101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach, so there. Still, another
>ongoing Big Bad puzzle for the Doctor to puzzle out--or maybe simply
>eliminate by ... resetting time. (I know I sound like a broken record or an
>echo.)
>
>Speaking of echoes, there was AI hologram River. Hello, holo River. Nice to
>meet ya. She was nice, but a reminder of days past. She didn't get to do
>much except whisper the Doctor's name and apparently the GI died without
>revealing it. At least she got a much better goodbye and goodbye kiss than
>the real River.
>
>Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
>original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along. It
>would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own series,
>ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
>mixing up human genders.
>
>-- Ken from Chicago
>
--
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Stephen Wilson
May 19, 2013, 5:19:47 PM5/19/13
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"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:knbejc$r1t$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <knan05$639$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>WHO
>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>if out of objective sequential order.
>
> RTD just did not fit the bill.
Didn't fit what bill?
> Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>WHO
>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>if out of objective sequential order.
>
> RTD just did not fit the bill.
>>
>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>Doctor
>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
> Given the Big Reset Button from the Time Wars, justified criticism.
>>
>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>through
>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>and
>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>>
>>Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
>>accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment,
>>now
>>only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>>moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>>resets time.
>
> G.I. first then Clara, and it all makes sense
>>
>>However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
>>gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult "girl"
>>who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a
>>child
>>of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
>>somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
>>telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now
>>that
>>Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his
>>own
>>time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she
>>soars.
>>
>
> So far high.
The Doctor
May 19, 2013, 11:10:47 PM5/19/13
to
In article <Ylbmt.17178$nm....@newsfe14.iad>,
>
>>>
>>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>>Doctor
>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>
>> Given the Big Reset Button from the Time Wars, justified criticism.
>
>There isn't a big reset button from the Time Wars.
>
It is called Big Bang II
>>>
>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>>through
>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>>and
>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>>>
>>>Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
>>>accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment,
>>>now
>>>only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>>>moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>>>resets time.
>>
>> G.I. first then Clara, and it all makes sense
>
>Not particularly.
Not that sophicasted Mr. Wilson?
Stephen Wilson <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:knbejc$r1t$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <knan05$639$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>>WHO
>>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>>if out of objective sequential order.
>>
>> RTD just did not fit the bill.
>
>Didn't fit what bill?
RTD a family writer? I really do not think so!
>
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>news:knbejc$r1t$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <knan05$639$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>>WHO
>>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>>if out of objective sequential order.
>>
>> RTD just did not fit the bill.
>
>Didn't fit what bill?
>
>>>
>>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>>Doctor
>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>
>> Given the Big Reset Button from the Time Wars, justified criticism.
>
>There isn't a big reset button from the Time Wars.
>
>>>
>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>>through
>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>>and
>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>>>
>>>Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the quantum
>>>accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment,
>>>now
>>>only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>>>moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>>>resets time.
>>
>> G.I. first then Clara, and it all makes sense
>
>Not particularly.
Jim G.
May 20, 2013, 12:49:57 PM5/20/13
to
Ken from Chicago sent the following on 5/19/2013 9:22 AM:
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH
> Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
> if out of objective sequential order.
Tell that to Clara. She's beside herself over it all.
> if out of objective sequential order.
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH
Ken Arromdee
May 20, 2013, 6:14:59 PM5/20/13
to
>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>
>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>
>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
PS: Isn't it funny how when there was a crack in the universe, threatening
to wipe the Doctor out of history posed no danger to anything, while now
(and in Turn Left) it's a big deal?
Also, you'd think wiping out the Doctor wipes out the Intelligence also
(since the Doctor saved the universe in pre-Victorian times), thus undoing
what the Intelligence meant to do by wiping it out in the first place.
--
Ken Arromdee / arromdee_AT_rahul.net / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
Some fanfic writers really like listening to Evanescence, so they decide to
make all the characters fans of it. Slash fiction is the same, but with
penises instead of Evanescence.
Ken Arromdee
May 20, 2013, 6:24:41 PM5/20/13
to
In article <kne793$8l5$1...@blue-new.rahul.net>,
Ken Arromdee <arro...@rahul.net> wrote:
>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
Journey to the Centre of the Tardis is what I meant, of course....
>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
The Doctor
May 20, 2013, 7:41:53 PM5/20/13
to
>>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>>
>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
>
>PS: Isn't it funny how when there was a crack in the universe, threatening
>to wipe the Doctor out of history posed no danger to anything, while now
>(and in Turn Left) it's a big deal?
>
>Also, you'd think wiping out the Doctor wipes out the Intelligence also
>(since the Doctor saved the universe in pre-Victorian times), thus undoing
>what the Intelligence meant to do by wiping it out in the first place.
In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time. Doctor
>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>>
>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth through
>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator and
>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
>
>PS: Isn't it funny how when there was a crack in the universe, threatening
>to wipe the Doctor out of history posed no danger to anything, while now
>(and in Turn Left) it's a big deal?
>
>Also, you'd think wiping out the Doctor wipes out the Intelligence also
>(since the Doctor saved the universe in pre-Victorian times), thus undoing
>what the Intelligence meant to do by wiping it out in the first place.
Stephen Wilson
May 21, 2013, 12:26:59 PM5/21/13
to
news:knecc1$gup$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <kne793$8l5$1...@blue-new.rahul.net>,
> Ken Arromdee <arro...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard
>>>>gamblers
>>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the
>>>>universe
>>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>>>Doctor
>>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he
>>>>marries
>>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>>>
>>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>>>through
>>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>>>and
>>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>>
>>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
>>
>>PS: Isn't it funny how when there was a crack in the universe, threatening
>>to wipe the Doctor out of history posed no danger to anything, while now
>>(and in Turn Left) it's a big deal?
>>
>>Also, you'd think wiping out the Doctor wipes out the Intelligence also
>>(since the Doctor saved the universe in pre-Victorian times), thus undoing
>>what the Intelligence meant to do by wiping it out in the first place.
>
> In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
Incorrect.
> Ken Arromdee <arro...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard
>>>>gamblers
>>>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the
>>>>universe
>>>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>>>Doctor
>>>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he
>>>>marries
>>>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>>>>
>>>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>>>through
>>>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>>>and
>>>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>>
>>You forgot the Heart of the Tardis. That also ended with resetting time.
>>
>>PS: Isn't it funny how when there was a crack in the universe, threatening
>>to wipe the Doctor out of history posed no danger to anything, while now
>>(and in Turn Left) it's a big deal?
>>
>>Also, you'd think wiping out the Doctor wipes out the Intelligence also
>>(since the Doctor saved the universe in pre-Victorian times), thus undoing
>>what the Intelligence meant to do by wiping it out in the first place.
>
> In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
The Doctor
May 21, 2013, 3:51:56 PM5/21/13
to
In article <qfNmt.16871$xl6....@newsfe15.iad>,
Watch again.
Stephen Wilson
May 21, 2013, 6:42:57 PM5/21/13
to
news:kngj8s$k3e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
I did. And you're still wrong.
The Doctor
May 21, 2013, 6:46:34 PM5/21/13
to
In article <TLSmt.22792$ru.1...@fx32.am4>,
Well it explains Clara and then some.
Stephen Wilson
May 21, 2013, 7:08:24 PM5/21/13
to
news:kngtga$1dc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
Nope. Not at all. Not even a little bit.
The Doctor
May 21, 2013, 7:32:44 PM5/21/13
to
In article <K7Tmt.19649$0L6....@fx20.am4>,
You need to pay closer attentino.
solar penguin
May 22, 2013, 9:03:28 AM5/22/13
to
On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:32:44 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <K7Tmt.19649$0L6....@fx20.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:kngtga$1dc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <TLSmt.22792$ru.1...@fx32.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:kngj8s$k3e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <qfNmt.16871$xl6....@newsfe15.iad>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
> In article <K7Tmt.19649$0L6....@fx20.am4>, Stephen Wilson
> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:kngtga$1dc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <TLSmt.22792$ru.1...@fx32.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:kngj8s$k3e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <qfNmt.16871$xl6....@newsfe15.iad>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Incorrect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Watch again.
>>>>
>>>>I did. And you're still wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well it explains Clara and then some.
How does your being wrong explain Clara? You were wrong long before she
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Incorrect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Watch again.
>>>>
>>>>I did. And you're still wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well it explains Clara and then some.
ever appeared!
>>
>>Nope. Not at all. Not even a little bit.
>>
>>
>>
> You need to pay closer attentino.
who?
Ken from Chicago
May 22, 2013, 9:18:38 AM5/22/13
to
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in message
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could see and hear--except for a handful of times.
>>Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
>>original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along.
>>It
>>would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own
>>series,
>>ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
>>mixing up human genders.
>
> I agree. They were wonderful.
Those three get the lion's share of imagination, excitement and fun.
-- Ken from Chicago
news:knaoc0$irk$1...@news.albasani.net...
> Ken from Chicago <ken...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>WHO
>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>if out of objective sequential order.
>
>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>Doctor
>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>through
>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>and
>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
> Hahahahahahahaha
>
> Clara's cuter than Al, though.
Ironically those echoes of Clara were something everyone BUT the Doctor
>
>>You know, whatever flaws Russell T. Davies had during his run of DOCTOR
>>WHO
>>and even TORCHWOOD, including TW:MIRACLE DAY, essentially going for bigger
>>and bigger threats (tho I suppose that's typical of shows in general), at
>>least he didn't cop out by relying on the crutch of time travel to just go
>>back and undo everything. Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>if out of objective sequential order.
>
>>Steven Moffat however keeps hitting the reset button like diehard gamblers
>>pulling the arms on one-armed bandits at Las Vegas. Crack in the universe
>>resets time. Amy gets married to reboot the universe and resets time.
>>Doctor
>>breaks cosmic rules so all time stops on the same moment and so he marries
>>River to kiss her to ... reset time.
>
>>Now the Great Intelligence, theorizing one can travel back and forth
>>through
>>all the moments of the Doctor's life, steps into the quantum accelerator
>>and
>>vanishes, to rewrite the Doctor's history AND resets time.
>
> Hahahahahahahaha
>
> Clara's cuter than Al, though.
could see and hear--except for a handful of times.
>>Speaking of good, Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax. The one most exciting and
>>original part of the story. Their opening 10 minutes zipped quite along.
>>It
>>would be truly criminal for TPTB not to spinoff them into their own
>>series,
>>ala Torchwood. And NOONE get any glasses for Strax. Heaven forbid he STOP
>>mixing up human genders.
>
> I agree. They were wonderful.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
May 22, 2013, 9:22:11 AM5/22/13
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"EGK" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Apparently the Doctor broke the time travel rules the first time he brought
the Tardis to rescue the Ponds. A second attempt apparently would
destabilize local time and space--even tho they've reset ALL of time and
space before and after.
Also the Weeping Angels keep teleporting them back to that same time and
space which is why the Doctor can't just show up say a decade after that
point in time and pick up the Ponds because the Weeping Angels keep
teleporting them backwards in time.
-- Ken from Chicago
news:e0rhp895jleh9545q...@4ax.com...
the Tardis to rescue the Ponds. A second attempt apparently would
destabilize local time and space--even tho they've reset ALL of time and
space before and after.
Also the Weeping Angels keep teleporting them back to that same time and
space which is why the Doctor can't just show up say a decade after that
point in time and pick up the Ponds because the Weeping Angels keep
teleporting them backwards in time.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
May 22, 2013, 9:29:40 AM5/22/13
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote in message
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It worked Daleks' leader Davros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEAK5ZGQpS8
>> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the
>> quantum
>> accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment,
>> now
>> only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>> moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>> resets time.
>>
>> However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
>> gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult
>> "girl"
>
> To be fair, Amy started waiting when she *was* a little girl
True, but did her modeling agency know that?
>> who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a
>> child
>> of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
>> somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
>> telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now
>> that
>> Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his
>> own
>> time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she
>> soars.
>>
>> In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but
>> the
>> one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd
>> break
>> promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in
>> Room
>> 101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach,
>
> Not to mention being the last Great Dragon
Don't be silly. Everyone know Leroy was the Last Dragon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVhiIisH30
-- Ken from Chicago
news:anim8rfsk-0244F...@news.easynews.com...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEAK5ZGQpS8
>> Clara has to stop the Great Intelligence so she too steps into the
>> quantum
>> accelerator time scar wound and vanishes echoing from moment to moment,
>> now
>> only an echo that not even the Doctor can see or hear, she relives those
>> moments hoping to put right what the Great Intelligence put wrong AND ...
>> resets time.
>>
>> However once the echoes of Clara have done their work, Clara, the souffle
>> gal (can we stop referring to grown women as "girls"? Amy the adult
>> "girl"
>
> To be fair, Amy started waiting when she *was* a little girl
>> who waited, Clara the impossible "girl", sorry, personal bugaboo as a
>> child
>> of the 70s, but I digress), her story is done. Btw, could Clara sound
>> somewhat more emotional about the end of her life than an automated
>> telephone operator talking about voice mail? Sorry, digressing. So now
>> that
>> Clara has saved the Doctor's life he must save hers by stepping into his
>> own
>> time wound and tell Clara that she is a leaf on the wind, see how she
>> soars.
>>
>> In the process she discovers The Doctor who apparently is The Doctor but
>> the
>> one who broke the promise of living up to the name "The Doctor". I'd
>> break
>> promises too if was a disfigured elephant man, brain washed citizen in
>> Room
>> 101 and have an alien burst out of my stomach,
>
> Not to mention being the last Great Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVhiIisH30
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
May 22, 2013, 9:31:12 AM5/22/13
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"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ken from Chicago sent the following on 5/19/2013 9:22 AM:
>> Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>> if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Tell that to Clara. She's beside herself over it all.
GROAN! Have you no shame? no decency?
>> Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>> if out of objective sequential order.
>
> Tell that to Clara. She's beside herself over it all.
> --
> Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
> "Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH
-- Ken from Chicago
anim8rFSK
May 22, 2013, 10:20:51 AM5/22/13
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Stephen Wilson
May 22, 2013, 12:39:25 PM5/22/13
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And here's the problem. I paid attention. You didn't.
But go on then - if you think you did, tell me how you think the story
explained Clara.
But go on then - if you think you did, tell me how you think the story
explained Clara.
Jim G.
May 22, 2013, 1:19:30 PM5/22/13
to
Ken from Chicago sent the following on 5/22/2013 8:31 AM:
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to handle
stress." -- Norma Bates, BATES MOTEL
>
>
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:kndlf8$o3m$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Ken from Chicago sent the following on 5/19/2013 9:22 AM:
>>> Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>> if out of objective sequential order.
>>
>> Tell that to Clara. She's beside herself over it all.
>
> GROAN! Have you no shame? no decency?
Come, now. That joke is timeless.
>
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:kndlf8$o3m$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Ken from Chicago sent the following on 5/19/2013 9:22 AM:
>>> Actions mattered. Actions had consequences, even
>>> if out of objective sequential order.
>>
>> Tell that to Clara. She's beside herself over it all.
>
> GROAN! Have you no shame? no decency?
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
stress." -- Norma Bates, BATES MOTEL
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 3:02:06 PM5/22/13
to
In article <knifn0$e1k$2...@dont-email.me>,
>>>
>>>Nope. Not at all. Not even a little bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You need to pay closer attentino.
>
>Does getting the spelling of "attention" wrong explain anybody? If so,
>who?
Maybe you.
solar penguin <solar....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:32:44 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <K7Tmt.19649$0L6....@fx20.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:kngtga$1dc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>> In article <TLSmt.22792$ru.1...@fx32.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:kngj8s$k3e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>> In article <qfNmt.16871$xl6....@newsfe15.iad>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Incorrect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watch again.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did. And you're still wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well it explains Clara and then some.
>
>How does your being wrong explain Clara? You were wrong long before she
>ever appeared!
>
0/10 Sp.
>On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:32:44 +0000, The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <K7Tmt.19649$0L6....@fx20.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:kngtga$1dc$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>> In article <TLSmt.22792$ru.1...@fx32.am4>, Stephen Wilson
>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:kngj8s$k3e$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>> In article <qfNmt.16871$xl6....@newsfe15.iad>, Stephen Wilson
>>>>>> <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case a timestream produced by a dying TARDIS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Incorrect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watch again.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did. And you're still wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well it explains Clara and then some.
>
>How does your being wrong explain Clara? You were wrong long before she
>ever appeared!
>
>>>
>>>Nope. Not at all. Not even a little bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You need to pay closer attentino.
>
>Does getting the spelling of "attention" wrong explain anybody? If so,
>who?
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 3:04:07 PM5/22/13
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In article <3x6nt.5384$PW1....@fx24.am4>,
Without Clara intervention at the Asylum or in Vitorian London
the Doctor would have been defeated. Futrther, if she did not
jump into the Time stream, many of the Doctor's acts would have been
reversed and hence chaos would have reign.
The Key to Time needs to be i nthe hands of the White Guardian.
the Doctor would have been defeated. Futrther, if she did not
jump into the Time stream, many of the Doctor's acts would have been
reversed and hence chaos would have reign.
The Key to Time needs to be i nthe hands of the White Guardian.
Stephen Wilson
May 22, 2013, 6:35:43 PM5/22/13
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news:knj4r7$n02$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
The Key to Time has nothing to do with the story. The White Guardian has
nothing to do with the story.
And you didn't tell me how you think Clara managed to be at the Asylum, or
in Victorian London. What time stream do you think she jumped into?
nothing to do with the story.
And you didn't tell me how you think Clara managed to be at the Asylum, or
in Victorian London. What time stream do you think she jumped into?
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 6:38:35 PM5/22/13
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In article <5Lbnt.17799$dW3....@fx21.am4>,
I did. She jummped into the Doctor's stream.
I.E. Grandfather's paradox.
I.E. Grandfather's paradox.
Adam H. Kerman
May 22, 2013, 6:59:47 PM5/22/13
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Stephen Wilson <stephen.w...@nospam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
The Doctor never found that.
>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>The Key to Time needs to be i nthe hands of the White Guardian.
>The Key to Time has nothing to do with the story. The White Guardian has
>nothing to do with the story.
It occurs to me that The Key To Time is useless without The Lock To Time.
>>The Key to Time needs to be i nthe hands of the White Guardian.
>The Key to Time has nothing to do with the story. The White Guardian has
>nothing to do with the story.
The Doctor never found that.
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 7:31:34 PM5/22/13
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anim8rFSK
May 22, 2013, 8:03:03 PM5/22/13
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http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/05/22/doctor-who-john-hurt-as-
who/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
who/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The Doctor
May 22, 2013, 10:14:21 PM5/22/13
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Your Name
May 23, 2013, 2:31:12 AM5/23/13
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In article <anim8rfsk-0B38F...@news.easynews.com>, anim8rFSK
<anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/05/22/doctor-who-john-hurt-as-
> who/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Wait, so does that mean in the dragon who helped Merlin was really a
<anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2013/05/22/doctor-who-john-hurt-as-
> who/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
future regeneration of the Doctor?? ;-)
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