Captain Zoom MiniReview
24 White Doves
1. Little genius kid.
2. Cute robot.
3. Idiot hero.
4. <click>
5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
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Mike Hopkins
Pretty funny. Though I have actually watched a bit of the
House of Commons and do find fairly interesting. I wonder
how long American presidents could last in an enviroment
where they have to answer questions and they don't even
have the oportunity to select the questioner?
Mike Hopkins
Earl Grey
>1. Little genius kid.
>2. Cute robot.
>3. Idiot hero.
>4. <click>
>5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
Perhaps the Captain Zoom movie should have started with
introductory credits that read "Some sense of humor on the
part of the audience required."
KAH
On this weeks repeat epsiode - the one where Avery Brooks builds
the space/sailship .......
There is a scene with Miles and Julian, drunk in their quarters and
they are singing a song... Emerson Lake and Palmer did this on Brain
Salad Surgery, I think it's the Third Impression.. anyway my question
is.. Is this an ELP original or is it one of those classics that
everyone redoes? Does anyone know who the original writer/composer is?
Just wondering.
Thanks
Kathy :)
Gharlane of Eddore
> 1. Little genius kid.
> 2. Cute robot.
> 3. Idiot hero.
> 4. <click>
> 5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
In <4ai5ae$t...@news.indy.net> Earl Grey <E...@anon.penet.fi> writes:
> Perhaps the Captain Zoom movie should have started with
> introductory credits that read "Some sense of humor on the
> part of the audience required."
Surely you don't think ANYONE who'd seen the previews tuned that
in expecting serious drama, do you? (Of course, there was a bit
of that, in that the writers did manage to deal with a bit of
self-realization on the part of the lead, and the deactivation
of the Bad Guy's pet psychic, a la Domino in "LIVE AND LET DIE,"
was fun....)
Actually, one of the best things about "CAPTAIN ZOOM" was that there
was no laugh track; they *presumed* an I.Q. of at least sixty on
the part of the watcher, and quite properly determined that no one
would need road signs to tell them "This is supposed to be funny."
This allowed everybody in the show to operate with a straight face,
and made the humor a bit more effective.
When you do this kind of highly-stylized parody humor, you have to
be scrupulous about avoiding self-referential linkages, or the
whole thing degenerates into a flock of people being consciously,
intentionally, cute.... and it doesn't work, and people turn it off.
The actors in "CAPTAIN ZOOM" managed to play a reasonable farce
without hamming it up, and it consequently remained watchable.
Did you notice that this is an "ACTION PACK" product, coming from
the same folks who've achieved some pretty notable success with
Raimi's approach to "HERCULES" and "XENA?" These shows are
lineal descendents of the sames style as "BRISCO COUNTY, JUNIOR,"
and I think it's a real hoot that they're playing on the WARNER
network instead of Fox, because Fox wouldn't hang loose and let
people realize "BCJ" might be worth watching.....
UPN *tried* to do it with the "Legend" show last year, but couldn't
make it, with the acting and production principals they had involved;
too much budget, not enough writing, and severe limitations created
by the political hobbyhorses of the actors involved. (You don't
cast an anti-gun activist in a western lead, and give him script
approval, for one thing!)
I'm not sure if "CAPTAIN ZOOM" will make it past one season if it
goes series... this depends solely on the quality of the writing
they get. The acting and production crews are certainly competent,
and I thought their pilot showed a certain degree of promise.
24 White Doves
>dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) wrote:
>> 1. Little genius kid.
>> 2. Cute robot.
>> 3. Idiot hero.
>> 4. <click>
>> 5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>
>In <4ai5ae$t...@news.indy.net> Earl Grey <E...@anon.penet.fi> writes:
>> Perhaps the Captain Zoom movie should have started with
>> introductory credits that read "Some sense of humor on the
>> part of the audience required."
>
Gosh, Earl. I love you, too.
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Jason John Seaver
>be scrupulous about avoiding self-referential linkages, or the
>whole thing degenerates into a flock of people being consciously,
>intentionally, cute.... and it doesn't work, and people turn it off.
Well, not always. "Animaniacs!" is successful with this sort of
thing (I don't quite know why), and other animated series also do pretty
well ("Taz-Mania" being my personal favorite at pulling this off); but I
guess people allow animation to do different sorts of things than live-action.
>Did you notice that this is an "ACTION PACK" product, coming from
>the same folks who've achieved some pretty notable success with
>Raimi's approach to "HERCULES" and "XENA?" These shows are
>lineal descendents of the sames style as "BRISCO COUNTY, JUNIOR,"
>and I think it's a real hoot that they're playing on the WARNER
>network instead of Fox, because Fox wouldn't hang loose and let
>people realize "BCJ" might be worth watching.....
Actually, "Action Pack" shows don't have a network affiliation;
they air on whatever channel picks up the "Action Pack". Here in the
Boston area, for example, UPN38 shows "Hercules" (& "Zoom") and the ABC
affiliate shows "Xena". Still, the Raimi-esque stuff seems to be catching
on slowly but surely: "Hercules" and "Xena" are certainly hits, TNT will
probably not be complaining about its ratings when it starts showing ABCjr
in January, and CBS is behind "American Gothic" like it's behind no other
show despite low ratings, and expects it to re-emerge from its hiatus a hit.
Rumors of Raimi developing a pirate show starring Bruce Campbell certainly
haven't been called a bad idea anywhere.
>UPN *tried* to do it with the "Legend" show last year, but couldn't
>make it, with the acting and production principals they had involved;
>too much budget, not enough writing, and severe limitations created
>by the political hobbyhorses of the actors involved. (You don't
>cast an anti-gun activist in a western lead, and give him script
>approval, for one thing!)
I don't know, I sort of like the idea of a Western hero who hates
guns; they're the easy, cliche'ed way out of a confrontation. When Brisco
County Junior used a gun, it was seldom to shoot a man dead (the bullet down
the barrel is a classic). "Legend" didn't always deliver, but was fun more
often than not.
>I'm not sure if "CAPTAIN ZOOM" will make it past one season if it
>goes series... this depends solely on the quality of the writing
>they get. The acting and production crews are certainly competent,
>and I thought their pilot showed a certain degree of promise.
I missed the pilot, myself. I wonder if the market for this kind of
show might be saturated, though. While it's nice that there's enough fair-
to-great shows of this type on that one can pick and choose, something might
fall through the cracks if there's just not enough audience and enough time.
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24 White Doves
***** MINOR SPOILERS *****
In article <4aiahg$n...@news.csus.edu>, ghar...@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu
(Gharlane of Eddore) wrote:
>dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) wrote:
>> 1. Little genius kid.
>> 2. Cute robot.
>> 3. Idiot hero.
>> 4. <click>
>> 5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>Surely you don't think ANYONE who'd seen the previews tuned that
>in expecting serious drama, do you? (Of course, there was a bit
>of that, in that the writers did manage to deal with a bit of
>self-realization on the part of the lead, and the deactivation
>of the Bad Guy's pet psychic, a la Domino in "LIVE AND LET DIE,"
>was fun....)
Are you kidding, Ghar? It was so contrived. The virgin loses her power if
she gets it. Gosh. Are you getting enough ammonia and methane there on
Eddore?
;-)
I just have an aversion to the idiot hero archetype. The show "Get Smart"
comes to mind. Maxwell Smart was a bumbler, but many times he still
prevailed against KAOS or the villian of the week by his own wits. He was
clumsy and absent minded. He wasn't a _complete_ idiot.
>Actually, one of the best things about "CAPTAIN ZOOM" was that there
>was no laugh track; they *presumed* an I.Q. of at least sixty on
>the part of the watcher, and quite properly determined that no one
>would need road signs to tell them "This is supposed to be funny."
>
>This allowed everybody in the show to operate with a straight face,
>and made the humor a bit more effective.
Effective?
>When you do this kind of highly-stylized parody humor, you have to
>be scrupulous about avoiding self-referential linkages, or the
>whole thing degenerates into a flock of people being consciously,
>intentionally, cute.... and it doesn't work, and people turn it off.
I think they crossed that edge. It didn't work. I kept thinking it would,
like when Zoom does battle with the lake monster, but it didn't. I know
it's just a potential pilot and all that, but I just kept hoping for more.
>The actors in "CAPTAIN ZOOM" managed to play a reasonable farce
>without hamming it up, and it consequently remained watchable.
>
>Did you notice that this is an "ACTION PACK" product, coming from
>the same folks who've achieved some pretty notable success with
>Raimi's approach to "HERCULES" and "XENA?" These shows are
>lineal descendents of the sames style as "BRISCO COUNTY, JUNIOR,"
>and I think it's a real hoot that they're playing on the WARNER
>network instead of Fox, because Fox wouldn't hang loose and let
>people realize "BCJ" might be worth watching.....
I like Hercules & Xena, and totally loved Brisco, and Zoom seems to be in
a very similar mode, but Zoom simply did not work for me. I kept thinking
of "Quark" with Richard Benjamin. Also a campy sci-fi, but so much better
written and executed.
I also kept thinking of the Flash Gordon movie that was out a while back.
Another campy bit of fun. That had a big evil villian (well played by Max
Von Sydow, me thinks), a seductive woman by his side, the rugged hero, a
woman by his side, and so on. The little kid in Zoom is the Dr. Zarkov
archetype, I guess.
I dunno. Maybe I was in a bad mood.
>UPN *tried* to do it with the "Legend" show last year, but couldn't
>make it, with the acting and production principals they had involved;
>too much budget, not enough writing, and severe limitations created
>by the political hobbyhorses of the actors involved. (You don't
>cast an anti-gun activist in a western lead, and give him script
>approval, for one thing!)
Agreed.
>I'm not sure if "CAPTAIN ZOOM" will make it past one season if it
>goes series... this depends solely on the quality of the writing
>they get. The acting and production crews are certainly competent,
>and I thought their pilot showed a certain degree of promise.
Hey, I'll give it another shot, just for you, Ghar. I usually give a
series (if it goes series) three or even four episodes.
Can I count the movie as two episodes?
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Gharlane of Eddore
jse...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>
GOE> When you do this kind of highly-stylized parody humor, you have to
GOE> be scrupulous about avoiding self-referential linkages, or the
GOE> whole thing degenerates into a flock of people being consciously,
GOE> intentionally, cute.... and it doesn't work, and people turn it off.
>
> Well, not always. "Animaniacs!" is successful with this sort of
>thing (I don't quite know why), and other animated series also do pretty
>well ("Taz-Mania" being my personal favorite at pulling this off); but I
>guess people allow animation to do different sorts of things than live-action.
Correction happily accepted. On "ANIMANIACS," *everything* works.
If Spielberg had writers that good working on his live-action shows,
they'd all still be on the air, with good ratings.
....<deletia>
GOE> UPN *tried* to do it with the "Legend" show last year, but couldn't
GOE> make it, with the acting and production principals they had involved;
GOE> too much budget, not enough writing, and severe limitations created
GOE> by the political hobbyhorses of the actors involved. (You don't
GOE> cast an anti-gun activist in a western lead, and give him script
GOE> approval, for one thing!)
>
> I don't know, I sort of like the idea of a Western hero who hates
> guns; they're the easy, cliche'ed way out of a confrontation. When Brisco
> County Junior used a gun, it was seldom to shoot a man dead (the bullet down
> the barrel is a classic). "Legend" didn't always deliver, but was fun more
> often than not.
I vastly preferred the way "MISTER PEEPERS" handled problems involving
firearms; like the hero of "LEGEND!" he always talked, or fist-fought
his way out. He was an expert marksman with rifle and pistol, and a
very quick draw, but simply didn't use guns as solutions. Blaming
the *technology* is not sensible, and not a good thing to have on TV.
Think of the sheriff in "SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SHERIFF," later reprised
on a Garner TV series; a complete coward who invariably used his
caginess as a tool, rather than hot lead.
Think of the "Bat Masterson" TV-cowboy show in the fifties; they
rewrote history a bit, and a huge percentage of the confrontations
involved the use of the "bat," the walking stick, as a short quarterstave.
In other words, it's been done before, and done better. "LEGEND"
tried to compensate for the hero's lack of combat capacity by using
the same sort of Impossible Magic Technology that the little old
ladies adored on "MacGYVER." It was tedious there, and even less
acceptable on "LEGEND," and the series rolled over and died.
Don't get me wrong; I think "LEGEND!" was a great idea, but without
some decent writing, it never had a chance. Best scene in the
opener: the hero talking the hired killer out of killing him by
promising him a dime-novel writing contract that would pay better
and give him long-term financial security. There WERE good ideas
there, they were just riding too many hobbyhorses to use them
effectively.
While it's currently Politically Correct among certain parts of the
population to blame Nasty Evil Bad Guns for the crime and assault
rate, the truth (despite what Sarah Brady would have you believe) is
that firearms are largely irrelevant to the commission of violent
crime. Check out the firearms assault rate in Kennesaw, Georgia,
some time; that's the town where a local ordinance *requires* all
able-bodied heads of households to possess at least one gun.
Amazing how safe the town is, and how low the crime rate.
...<deletia> ...concerning "CAPTAIN ZOOM."
>
> I missed the pilot, myself. I wonder if the market for this kind of
>show might be saturated, though. While it's nice that there's enough fair-
>to-great shows of this type on that one can pick and choose, something might
>fall through the cracks if there's just not enough audience and enough time.
>--
An excellent point; but you have to remember that this sort of thing
ALWAYS happens with prime-time TV when there's a success. Everyone
tries to jump on the bandwagon, and after a while, a bunch of the tries
fail. There's no way we can get network execs to be sensible, so just
watch what you like, and advertise it among your friends, and keep your
fingers crossed....
24 White Doves
(Gharlane of Eddore) wrote:
[kilosnip]
>In other words, it's been done before, and done better. "LEGEND"
>tried to compensate for the hero's lack of combat capacity by using
>the same sort of Impossible Magic Technology that the little old
>ladies adored on "MacGYVER." It was tedious there, and even less
>acceptable on "LEGEND," and the series rolled over and died.
I always thought R.D.Anderson's character (Pratt?) was not dark enough. He
gave in to the heroism reluctantly. I think it would have been a bit
better if he really had to be dragged kicking and screaming. He needed to
do more drinking and whoring and cussing and fighting; a complete,
consummate antihero on the level of Thomas Covenant.
This may be why I had such a negative reaction to Zoom. I like antiheroes,
but I like them to be either very dark (fringing on evil), or
reluctant-but-competent.
>Don't get me wrong; I think "LEGEND!" was a great idea, but without
>some decent writing, it never had a chance. Best scene in the
>opener: the hero talking the hired killer out of killing him by
>promising him a dime-novel writing contract that would pay better
>and give him long-term financial security. There WERE good ideas
>there, they were just riding too many hobbyhorses to use them
>effectively.
As a fan of Nikola Tesla, I liked Bartok.
>While it's currently Politically Correct among certain parts of the
>population to blame Nasty Evil Bad Guns for the crime and assault
>rate, the truth (despite what Sarah Brady would have you believe) is
>that firearms are largely irrelevant to the commission of violent
>crime.
New fangled attutudes are worked into stories about times past all the
time. Sometimes it works (Hercules), sometimes it doesn't (Legend).
>Check out the firearms assault rate in Kennesaw, Georgia,
>some time; that's the town where a local ordinance *requires* all
>able-bodied heads of households to possess at least one gun.
>Amazing how safe the town is, and how low the crime rate.
>
>
>...<deletia> ...concerning "CAPTAIN ZOOM."
>>
>> I missed the pilot, myself. I wonder if the market for this kind of
>>show might be saturated, though. While it's nice that there's enough fair-
>>to-great shows of this type on that one can pick and choose, something might
>>fall through the cracks if there's just not enough audience and enough time.
>>--
>
>An excellent point; but you have to remember that this sort of thing
>ALWAYS happens with prime-time TV when there's a success. Everyone
>tries to jump on the bandwagon, and after a while, a bunch of the tries
>fail. There's no way we can get network execs to be sensible, so just
>watch what you like, and advertise it among your friends, and keep your
>fingers crossed....
With the hypersuccess of "Friends", can you imagine what the next TV
season will be like? I might just cheer on Zoom after all.
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David Hines
Jason John Seaver <jse...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> wrote:
>Still, the Raimi-esque stuff seems to be catching
>on slowly but surely: "Hercules" and "Xena" are certainly hits, TNT will
>probably not be complaining about its ratings when it starts showing ABCjr
>in January, and CBS is behind "American Gothic" like it's behind no other
>show despite low ratings, and expects it to re-emerge from its hiatus a hit.
I'm sorry, but that last sentence is wrong. "AMERICAN GOTHIC"
wasn't doing badly for CBS, and its ratings were higher than those of
its lead-in, the Emmy darling "PICKET FENCES," until CBS started
pre-empting it. Then the ratings started to slip, but it was still
okay... whereupon CBS decided to pull it for a month. Maybe if they'd
given it more than its first four weeks before they'd stopped showing
it consecutive weeks, the ratings wouldn't have slipped the little bit
they did.
If CBS was behind "AG" "like it's behind no other show," why the photon
did they pre-empt that wonderfully spooky show on *HALLOWEEN* to broadcast
a "special" performance by an unfunny comedy troupe? The State's Halloween
special scored, if I remember correctly, *99th place* in the ratings, and
it was after that that the show started slipping.
David Hines
dzh...@midway.uchicago.edu
Jeff Boes
>On 10 Dec 1995, dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) wrote:
>> 1. Little genius kid.
>> 2. Cute robot.
>> 3. Idiot hero.
>> 4. <click>
>> 5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>Hey, I enjoyed it. It was sort of Captain Video meets Flash Gordon by way
>of a Mystery Science Theater 3000 screening.
Me, too! So did my kids, although I must admit the wife and I debated
whether it was entirely appropriate, what with the scanty costumes and
all the moaning and groaning whassername, the High Priestess did while
crawling on the Captain's frame. It was shown at 7:00 PM in the
Chicago area, so we decided that we're fuddy-duddies...
>I thought Liz Vassey (Tyra) was just gorgeous.
Moreso the High Priestess. Especially the seduction scene(s)...
>And I found the references to the DuMont Network (a
>real but defunct network from the Fifties, that used to run Captain Video)
>to be a clever, knowing wink of the eye.
That, too. Nichelle Nichols (ST:TOS's Uhura, to the under-21 crowd)
was a nice bit of casting, too.
>Bring on the weekly series!
Is there one? I couldn't really tell from the presentation, they
certainly didn't promote it as such.
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The_Doge of St. Louis
(Gharlane of Eddore) wrote:
>dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) wrote:
>> 1. Little genius kid.
>> 2. Cute robot.
>> 3. Idiot hero.
>> 4. <click>
>> 5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>
>In <4ai5ae$t...@news.indy.net> Earl Grey <E...@anon.penet.fi> writes:
>> Perhaps the Captain Zoom movie should have started with
>> introductory credits that read "Some sense of humor on the
>> part of the audience required."
>
>Surely you don't think ANYONE who'd seen the previews tuned that
>in expecting serious drama, do you? (Of course, there was a bit
>of that, in that the writers did manage to deal with a bit of
>self-realization on the part of the lead, and the deactivation
>of the Bad Guy's pet psychic, a la Domino in "LIVE AND LET DIE,"
>was fun....)
>
>Actually, one of the best things about "CAPTAIN ZOOM" was that there
>was no laugh track; they *presumed* an I.Q. of at least sixty on
>the part of the watcher, and quite properly determined that no one
>would need road signs to tell them "This is supposed to be funny."
To say nothing of Shirley Walker's highly straight-faced
adventure-movie soundtrack, which nicely conrasted with the silliness of
the entire project.
I thought the obvious references to Flash Gordon were fairly amusing,
along with the shots at cheesy comic book/Saturday serial SF in general.
What can I say? It was An Evening With the Cheap Laughs, but I got many
chuckles out of it.
[...]
>I'm not sure if "CAPTAIN ZOOM" will make it past one season if it
>goes series... this depends solely on the quality of the writing
>they get. The acting and production crews are certainly competent,
>and I thought their pilot showed a certain degree of promise.
Yep. Going for "Married with Children" laughs will take it down the
toilet quickly. "Pinky and The Brain" or "Simpsons" laughs, on the other
hand, would be a hoot and keep me watchin it, anyway.
Besides, the only competiton for SF-based humor right now is
"Voyager". >:-{)
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David W. Lillard
Don't think it could stand as a seies though.
IMHO, David.
Jason John Seaver
>>
>Correction happily accepted. On "ANIMANIACS," *everything* works.
>If Spielberg had writers that good working on his live-action shows,
>they'd all still be on the air, with good ratings.
Well, actually, I personally want to strangle those smug sibs when
I watch Animaniacs (which, with Pinky & The Brain spun off, has become almost
completely unwatchable), but it does seem to work as far as the masses are
concerned.
>GOE> UPN *tried* to do it with the "Legend" show last year, but couldn't
>GOE> make it, with the acting and production principals they had involved;
>GOE> too much budget, not enough writing, and severe limitations created
>GOE> by the political hobbyhorses of the actors involved. (You don't
>GOE> cast an anti-gun activist in a western lead, and give him script
>GOE> approval, for one thing!)
>>
>> I don't know, I sort of like the idea of a Western hero who hates
>> guns; they're the easy, cliche'ed way out of a confrontation. When Brisco
>> County Junior used a gun, it was seldom to shoot a man dead (the bullet down
>> the barrel is a classic). "Legend" didn't always deliver, but was fun more
>> often than not.
>
>In other words, it's been done before, and done better. "LEGEND"
>tried to compensate for the hero's lack of combat capacity by using
>the same sort of Impossible Magic Technology that the little old
>ladies adored on "MacGYVER." It was tedious there, and even less
>acceptable on "LEGEND," and the series rolled over and died.
>
>Don't get me wrong; I think "LEGEND!" was a great idea, but without
>some decent writing, it never had a chance. Best scene in the
>opener: the hero talking the hired killer out of killing him by
>promising him a dime-novel writing contract that would pay better
>and give him long-term financial security. There WERE good ideas
>there, they were just riding too many hobbyhorses to use them
>effectively.
>
>While it's currently Politically Correct among certain parts of the
>population to blame Nasty Evil Bad Guns for the crime and assault
>rate, the truth (despite what Sarah Brady would have you believe) is
>that firearms are largely irrelevant to the commission of violent
>crime. Check out the firearms assault rate in Kennesaw, Georgia,
>some time; that's the town where a local ordinance *requires* all
>able-bodied heads of households to possess at least one gun.
>Amazing how safe the town is, and how low the crime rate.
I've got no problem with firearms, personally; after a while, though,
I reached a point where I wanted the gunplay either superbly done or avoided,
just because I was sick of it. Legend's impossible technology wasn't the best
way the writers could have avoided the guns, but did make for some enjoyable
fantasy. I wonder if the general opinion of Legend would have been higher if
Brisco County Junior hadn't done much the same thing (a solidly-PG fantasy-
western-comedy with anachronistic technology) so perfectly a year before.
>> I missed the pilot, myself. I wonder if the market for this kind of
>>show might be saturated, though. While it's nice that there's enough fair-
>>to-great shows of this type on that one can pick and choose, something might
>>fall through the cracks if there's just not enough audience and enough time.
>
>An excellent point; but you have to remember that this sort of thing
>ALWAYS happens with prime-time TV when there's a success. Everyone
>tries to jump on the bandwagon, and after a while, a bunch of the tries
>fail. There's no way we can get network execs to be sensible, so just
>watch what you like, and advertise it among your friends, and keep your
>fingers crossed....
Right. With luck, all three of Raimi's shows will have longer runs
than, say, Voyager. Unfortunate that it's going to take luck, though.
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Earl Grey
>I stuck with the movie, alll the way to the end, but the uppermost
>thought in my mind was "Ron Perlman? The guy who brought Vincent to
>life (Beauty and the Beast for all not familiar)? Aaaag, what is he
>doing in this tripe?"
>
It looked like he was having fun, which is how most of the
actors looked. Ron Perlman, sans the Vincent latex,
hasn't had the greatest roles on television anyway.
Don Altenberger
dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) writes:
>1. Little genius kid.
>2. Cute robot.
>3. Idiot hero.
>4. <click>
>5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>
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Gharlane of Eddore
alte...@ix.netcom.com(Don Altenberger ) writes:
>
> I stuck with the movie, alll the way to the end, but the uppermost
> thought in my mind was "Ron Perlman? The guy who brought Vincent to
> life (Beauty and the Beast for all not familiar)? Aaaag, what is he
> doing in this tripe?"
>
The same thing he was doing playing the Pirate Cook in "THE ICE PIRATES;"
*ACTING*.
You know, where they pay you money to play a part, and you bust your
tail doing the absolutely-best job it's possible to do with said part.
At least in "CAPTAIN ZOOM" he got to have *FUN*, and the makeup time
was vastly less than in "BEAUTY AND THE BEAST."
Someone once asked Sir Laurence Olivier why he'd taken a part playing
a no-name policeman in a five-line scene in a Brit telly show for scale
wage. His answer: "I wasn't doing anything else that week, and when
they offer you a job, you TAKE it. If you're not acting, you're not
an actor!"
With all of Perlman's stage Shakespeare experience in live theater,
you might just as well ask what he was doing playing a hairy beast
in Ron Koslow's TV show......
24 White Doves
Altenberger ) wrote:
>In <dove24-1012...@ana2078.deltanet.com>
>dov...@abra.cadabra.org (24 White Doves) writes:
>
>>1. Little genius kid.
>>2. Cute robot.
>>3. Idiot hero.
>>4. <click>
>>5. British House of Commons on CSPAN. Vastly more entertaining.
>>
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>
>I stuck with the movie, alll the way to the end, but the uppermost
>thought in my mind was "Ron Perlman? The guy who brought Vincent to
>life (Beauty and the Beast for all not familiar)? Aaaag, what is he
>doing in this tripe?"
I actually watched it all. I popped over to CSPAN during the commercial.
Actually, Thatcher was spunkier than Major, and more fun.
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24 White Doves
(Gharlane of Eddore) wrote:
>With all of Perlman's stage Shakespeare experience in live theater,
>you might just as well ask what he was doing playing a hairy beast
>in Ron Koslow's TV show......
A good job, if I recall correctly. I rather liked that show in spite of myself.
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Don Altenberger
>With all of Perlman's stage Shakespeare experience in live theater,
>you might just as well ask what he was doing playing a hairy beast
>in Ron Koslow's TV show......
Actually, Ron"s not known as a "Shakespearean actor" on the boards; his
stage roles have included: "A Few Good Men", "Pal Joey", "American
Heroes", and "The Architect and the Emperor of Assyria". He quoted more
Shakespeare as Vincent than he ever did as any other character -
haven"t you ever heard him recite the Sonnets?