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David Barnett  
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From: David Barnett <dbar3...@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:26:09 +1100
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <507e09db$0$71214$742ec...@news.sonic.net>,
dtra...@sonic.net says...

If we are not buying due to "little benefit to the  
viewers" then they "wasting their resources". The
customers and the networks will feel the effects.

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:56:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
Ian J. Ball sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:03:21 -0700:

> In article <cjho78dcao5tnf3vcqbo4cqk87ff924...@4ax.com>,
>  Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> > anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:38:59 -0700:

> > > NCIS truly peaked with Jenny Shepard.  Just ask Ian!

> > I'm still trying to figure out why some people are "icking" Lauren
> > Holly's looks on ALPHAS. I'm not even much of a fan of redheads and even
> > I think that she looks terrific for her age there. Heck, she looks
> > pretty terrific, period.

> Charitably: you're nuts!!

Again, try to be specific. What is it about her that's so horrid these
days? Or is not looking 16 anymore enough to qualify?

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:56:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
anim8rFSK sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:04:49 -0700:

Yeah, that makes no sense to me, either.

> Besides, I've seen models where you are allowed to fast
> forward, but not past the commercial breaks.

That's understandable, I guess.

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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:56:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
Dimensional Traveler sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:18:44
-0700:

Only if it's a Nielsen family.

> Disabling FF is just part
> of that.

Only for Nielsen families.

> The rules aren't made for the viewers' benefit.  They are made for the
> network's customer's benefit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've danced this dance before. And while the viewers
are the middlemen between the stations and the advertisers, I've
explained repeated why *neither* side should go out of its way to piss
off the middlemen. Because without the viewers, neither side would be in
the equation to begin with.

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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:23:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

I predict it's a technical thing; it's far easier to disable all special
controls than just selective ones.

I'm pretty lukewarm on the DirecTV on-demand, mostly because it's only SD,
not HD (at least the series programs I've tried recording), and forcing me
to watch the commercials blows.  I'm able to record most everything I want
when it is first-run and zip all the commercials.  After about a year of DVR
use I can barely tolerate watching anything that isn't off the DVR so I can
skip the commercials.  I also love it for sports for the rewind and
slow-motion.

On-Demand is good as a backup when I miss recording something, though.


 
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:32:08 -0600
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:anim8rfsk-0466E4.07564613102012@news.easynews.com...

My On Demand allows pause even with shows that don't allow fast forward (and
there aren't many of those that I watch).  What annoys me is that if it
stays on pause for too long, it drops out of the show and goes back to the
menu, or even back to the regular channel, and I have to get back into On
Demand.  On the plus side, though, it does give me a choice to restart where
I left off.  What company are you getting On Demand from?

 
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From: anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:57:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <k5vtql$s...@dont-email.me>,
 "Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:

COX. It's variable show to show.  They can (and to) allow FF, REW, &
PAUSE independently and in any combination including 'none at all'.

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:28:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> My On Demand allows pause even with shows that don't allow fast forward
>> (and
>> there aren't many of those that I watch).
> COX. It's variable show to show.  They can (and to) allow FF, REW, &
> PAUSE independently and in any combination including 'none at all'.

Is it really a 'show to show' issue or is it a 'network to network' issue?

 
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 More options Oct 21 2012, 5:35 pm
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:35:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:28:09 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:

>"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

>> "Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> My On Demand allows pause even with shows that don't allow fast forward
>>> (and
>>> there aren't many of those that I watch).

>> COX. It's variable show to show.  They can (and to) allow FF, REW, &
>> PAUSE independently and in any combination including 'none at all'.

>Is it really a 'show to show' issue or is it a 'network to network' issue?

It can also be a matter of WHEN you view it. On several shows they
disable FF/etc. for the first 3 days only. That's because ratings now
include shows seen On Demand within 3 days of the network air date. So
the commercials are included and they count the eyeballs that
supposedly watch them.  (Sure, you can wander off into the kitchen and
get a snack - but you can't just FF past them.)

After that 3-day period they generally dump both the commercials and
the restrictions on FF.


 
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:14:06 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

Good point.  The networks are paid based upon those C3 ratings, so they are
going to work hard not to give away any eyeballs within that window.

 
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From: anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:36:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <k61lsq$im...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

> > "Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> My On Demand allows pause even with shows that don't allow fast forward
> >> (and
> >> there aren't many of those that I watch).

> > COX. It's variable show to show.  They can (and to) allow FF, REW, &
> > PAUSE independently and in any combination including 'none at all'.

> Is it really a 'show to show' issue or is it a 'network to network' issue?

It's 'show to show' as far as I can tell, as they seem to be more
restrictive on new shows than they are on older ones.

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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:58:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:28:09 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:

>"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

>> "Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> My On Demand allows pause even with shows that don't allow fast forward
>>> (and
>>> there aren't many of those that I watch).

>> COX. It's variable show to show.  They can (and to) allow FF, REW, &
>> PAUSE independently and in any combination including 'none at all'.

>Is it really a 'show to show' issue or is it a 'network to network' issue?

Show to show, although some networks are consistent.

In a lot of cases, I have seen shows with fast forward disabled but no
commercials!


 
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:05:41 -0600
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:anim8rfsk-53C3F7.11570421102012@news.easynews.com...

I'm with Comcast.  I've *never* had a show that didn't allow anything at
all.  Pretty much the only thing that is ever disabled is FF, and it's
either completely disabled or works all through the show - none of that
disabled only during commercials stuff.

 
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:08:07 -0600
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"Harold Groot" <ques...@infionline.net> wrote in message

news:50846904.5105015@news.west.earthlink.net...

Unfortunately, since I live in an apartment, wandering off to the kitchen
doesn't save me from the commercials.  :P  I have to go to the bathroom -
and shut the door, or I can still hear them.

 
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"Mason Barge" <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Now that's either stupidity, or laziness.

 
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:48:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"Dragon Lady" <sgts...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Mason Barge" <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote

>> In a lot of cases, I have seen shows with fast forward disabled but no
>> commercials!

> Now that's either stupidity, or laziness.

Maybe it is a way of detering people from doing screen caps?

Maybe it is just an artistic integrity statement?  If I wrote a TV series I
probably wouldn't want people FFing through half the show and then going out
on the internet making claims about what was or wasn't explained well in the
plot.


 
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:28:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

Haha.  If people want to fast-forward, it's pretty ironic that you would
stop them from doing it due to artistic integrity :)

I actually think the reason for this is sheer entropy and/or stupidity.
It's got "no fast forward" in a contract clause somewhere and/or some
moron network exec insists that they have "disable ff" on the series (or
all shows from the network).

It's like entertainment companies that insist videos that couldn't
*possibly* hurt their revenues, and might even increase them by way of
promotion, get taken off of YouTube.


 
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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:28:21 +1100
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <k69vnc$g3...@dont-email.me>,
sgts...@comcast.net says...

Where are the hackers who could disable the disable thing?

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From: MDuP...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:50:51 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

shawn <nanoflo...@gNOTmail.com> writes:
> That's the really annoying thing about trying to watch NBC shows On
> Demand. They disable fast forward so a 40 minute show can take 50-60
> minutes to watch because they throw in multiple ads.

Hit PAGE UP to jump ahead 5 minutes, i.e., past the commercials.  Hit
REWIND to get back to the beginning of the next act.  Hit PLAY when you
get there.  (Look to one side of the screen to avoid seeing spoilers
dead on.  Your peripheral vision is surprisingly good at spotting when
you've left the program and entered a commercial.)

This actually works best when no commercials have been removed yet.

-Micky


 
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:03:36 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
On 10/15/2012 1:13 PM, Jim G. wrote:

> I'm still trying to figure out why some people are "icking" Lauren
> Holly's looks on ALPHAS. I'm not even much of a fan of redheads and even
> I think that she looks terrific for her age there. Heck, she looks
> pretty terrific, period.

If they dislike a character an actress played, she will be forever
Quasimodo.

 
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:34:45 -0600
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
David Johnston sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:03:36 -0700:

> On 10/15/2012 1:13 PM, Jim G. wrote:

> > I'm still trying to figure out why some people are "icking" Lauren
> > Holly's looks on ALPHAS. I'm not even much of a fan of redheads and even
> > I think that she looks terrific for her age there. Heck, she looks
> > pretty terrific, period.

> If they dislike a character an actress played, she will be forever
> Quasimodo.

Yeah, I get the shtick (and I still think it's nothing more than a
shtick for most of us who occasionally play with it), but I didn't
realize that anyone hated the Jenny character from NCIS, which seems to
be the baseline where Holly is concerned. Or does this go back to an
earlier role?

--
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:49:24 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <8ik7a8hk80rep1il38o5tchgh0b7crb...@4ax.com>,
 Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

I know Ian hates Lauren Holly (he prefers more masculine 'women') but I
don't know if he hated Jenny because of Lauren or Lauren because of
Jenny ...

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:48:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <MPG.2af43ddeb908c492989...@news.bigpond.com>,
 David Barnett <dbar3...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

I don't think enough people use or care about ON DEMAND to warrant it.

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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain

"anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> I know Ian hates Lauren Holly (he prefers more masculine 'women')

I'm guessing this is a Smallville reference, but in general isn't Ian's
problem that he only likes women until about the age of 21?

 
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:50:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: "Revolution" episode 2 sets NBC record for DVR gain
In article <k82vuf$ae...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

> > I know Ian hates Lauren Holly (he prefers more masculine 'women')

> I'm guessing this is a Smallville reference, but in general isn't Ian's
> problem that he only likes women until about the age of 21?

It's a Smallville AND a Knight Rider reference.  In both cases, he liked
the tranny, who was also older than the obligatory hot chick.

I agree it goes against his perceived "old enough for teen nick, too old
for me" preferences, but I think he likes those shows more than
necessarily just the girls.

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