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A Watcher

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:05:50 PM11/18/09
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Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
that? It's a refreshing change. They said SGU would be different.

Gisele

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:19:28 PM11/18/09
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A Watcher <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com:

The problem with the Chloe character is that she is boring. She's a whiner
and uninteresting. Ditto for Eli and most of the characters. They're
boring. People behaving like *real* people also aren't that interesting to
watch.....<g>

Gisele

Pete B

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:36:53 PM11/18/09
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In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
stoc...@earthlink.net says...

> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> that?

If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.

> They said SGU would be different.

That much is true.

trag

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:58:10 PM11/18/09
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Except they are not acting like real people. They're acting like the
cliches that television presents to us as real people. I don't know
any real people as useless and unlikable as these characters.

In real life people do not all scream in fear and run around in
circles in a panic during an emergency. Most of them freeze in place
and the more alert and/or capable figure out what to do and spring
into action sooner. On TV and in films, everyone screams uselessly
and runs around in circles knocking things over in a panic.

These are not characters acting like real people. These are
characters acting like cliches from soap operas.

Pete B

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:56:34 PM11/18/09
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In article <Xns9CC791D091513il...@94.75.244.46>, iloveds9
@nospamlycos.com says...

Oh, but you'll love the episode where they are all going to the toilet!

Dimensional Traveler

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:07:01 PM11/18/09
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Pete B wrote:
> In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
> stoc...@earthlink.net says...
>> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
>> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
>> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
>> that?
>
> If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
>
But watching SGU is legal.

--
7 Years - 2265 Experiments - 10 tons of explosives - 705 Myths
Myths - Will - Fall!

Harold Groot

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:24:27 PM11/18/09
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I'd guess that it's a matter of taste. I happen to prefer competent,
sympathetic heroes. That's why I was attracted to the earlier series.
Since this series features mainly incompetent, unsympathetic
anti-heroes - well, it's hardly surprising that I find this show less
enjoyable.

I will grant that they are making the show that they said they would
make. They said "don't look for square-jawed heroes" and so on.


erilar

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:34:34 PM11/18/09
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In article
<33c01e77-ece6-4e3a...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
trag <tr...@io.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 12:05 pm, A Watcher <stocks...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> > Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> > characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> > that? It's a refreshing change. They said SGU would be different.
>
> Except they are not acting like real people. They're acting like the
> cliches that television presents to us as real people. I don't know
> any real people as useless and unlikable as these characters.

Well, I've known a few, but they're a distinct minority.


>
> In real life people do not all scream in fear and run around in
> circles in a panic during an emergency. Most of them freeze in place
> and the more alert and/or capable figure out what to do and spring
> into action sooner. On TV and in films, everyone screams uselessly
> and runs around in circles knocking things over in a panic.

This show in particular seems to be lacking in sensible
characters. And I still miss the humor when things get hairy that I
always liked in SG1.


>
> These are not characters acting like real people. These are
> characters acting like cliches from soap operas.

Quite.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo

Pete B

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:29:21 PM11/18/09
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In article <4b047004$0$1629$742e...@news.sonic.net>, dtr...@sonic.net
says...

> Pete B wrote:
> > In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
> > stoc...@earthlink.net says...
> >> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> >> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> >> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> >> that?
> >
> > If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
> >
> But watching SGU is legal.

So you admit one could do that.

A Watcher

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:34:25 PM11/18/09
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You don't know the people that I know. :-)

Gisele

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:29:50 PM11/18/09
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Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote in
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Well, that would be different.....lol.

Gisele

Gisele

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:34:57 PM11/18/09
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trag <tr...@io.com> wrote in
news:33c01e77-ece6-4e3a...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 18, 12:05 pm, A Watcher <stocks...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
>> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than
>> the characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong
>> with that? It's a refreshing change. They said SGU would be
>> different.
>
> Except they are not acting like real people. They're acting like the
> cliches that television presents to us as real people. I don't know
> any real people as useless and unlikable as these characters.

That's a good point. Not acting like "capable, smart, strong, super"
people "makes it seem like" they're acting like "real" people, yes, you're
right.


> In real life people do not all scream in fear and run around in
> circles in a panic during an emergency. Most of them freeze in place
> and the more alert and/or capable figure out what to do and spring
> into action sooner. On TV and in films, everyone screams uselessly
> and runs around in circles knocking things over in a panic.

True.



> These are not characters acting like real people. These are
> characters acting like cliches from soap operas.

Yep.

Gisele


Dimensional Traveler

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:28:19 PM11/18/09
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Pete B wrote:
> In article <4b047004$0$1629$742e...@news.sonic.net>, dtr...@sonic.net
> says...
>> Pete B wrote:
>>> In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
>>> stoc...@earthlink.net says...
>>>> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
>>>> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
>>>> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
>>>> that?
>>> If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
>>>
>> But watching SGU is legal.
>
> So you admit one could do that.

I'm failing to understand the relevance of the physical possibility of
an illegal act.

A Watcher

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:19:41 AM11/19/09
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They did that in BSG2.

Anim8rFSK

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:38:40 PM11/19/09
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In article <4b047004$0$1629$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

> Pete B wrote:
> > In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
> > stoc...@earthlink.net says...
> >> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> >> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> >> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> >> that?
> >
> > If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
> >
> But watching SGU is legal.

It shouldn't be.

--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU!

shawn

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:12:41 PM11/19/09
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Especially after they eat the plants that they find on a new world
that turn out to work much like Exlax.. Hilarity reigns supreme as
they find out there aren't enough bathrooms to go around.

shawn

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:15:28 PM11/19/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:34:34 -0600, erilar
<dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

>In article
><33c01e77-ece6-4e3a...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> trag <tr...@io.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 18, 12:05 pm, A Watcher <stocks...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
>> > Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
>> > characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
>> > that? It's a refreshing change. They said SGU would be different.
>>
>> Except they are not acting like real people. They're acting like the
>> cliches that television presents to us as real people. I don't know
>> any real people as useless and unlikable as these characters.

Unfortunately that seems to be the easiest thing for most writers to
do which is why I guess they go for those old cliches.

> Well, I've known a few, but they're a distinct minority.
>>
>> In real life people do not all scream in fear and run around in
>> circles in a panic during an emergency. Most of them freeze in place
>> and the more alert and/or capable figure out what to do and spring
>> into action sooner. On TV and in films, everyone screams uselessly
>> and runs around in circles knocking things over in a panic.
>
> This show in particular seems to be lacking in sensible
>characters. And I still miss the humor when things get hairy that I
>always liked in SG1.

Agreed. So far the only one with any sense of humor is Eli. That's
something that the show desperately needs especially if they are going
for a more realistic portrayal of their situation. Something to bring
a bit of levity to what is really a quite dire situation.

>> These are not characters acting like real people. These are
>> characters acting like cliches from soap operas.
>
>Quite.

Agreed.

trag

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:04:45 PM11/19/09
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And do you want to watch a show about the people that you know? :-)

Pete B

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:38:48 PM11/19/09
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In article <4b04c963$0$1628$742e...@news.sonic.net>, dtr...@sonic.net
says...
> Pete B wrote:
> > In article <4b047004$0$1629$742e...@news.sonic.net>, dtr...@sonic.net
> > says...
> >> Pete B wrote:
> >>> In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
> >>> stoc...@earthlink.net says...
> >>>> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> >>>> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> >>>> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> >>>> that?
> >>> If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
> >>>
> >> But watching SGU is legal.
> >
> > So you admit one could do that.
>
> I'm failing to understand the relevance of the physical possibility of
> an illegal act.

I forgot never to play with trolls.

Pete B

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:39:09 PM11/19/09
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In article <ANIM8Rfsk-B7025...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
ANIM...@cox.net says...

> In article <4b047004$0$1629$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > Pete B wrote:
> > > In article <zLSdnYFuIf7jqpnW...@earthlink.com>,
> > > stoc...@earthlink.net says...
> > >> Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
> > >> Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than the
> > >> characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
> > >> that?
> > >
> > > If i wanted to watch real people I could go spy on the neighbors.
> > >
> > But watching SGU is legal.
>
> It shouldn't be.

That's what I should have said *g*

Kestra

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:53:14 AM11/21/09
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"erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:drache-8F8190....@nothing.attdns.com...

> In article
> <33c01e77-ece6-4e3a...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> trag <tr...@io.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 18, 12:05 pm, A Watcher <stocks...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Some posters here are complaining about the characters, especially
>> > Chloe. I think the characters are acting more like real people than
>> > the
>> > characters of SG1, SGA and most TV sci fi shows. What's wrong with
>> > that? It's a refreshing change. They said SGU would be different.
>>
>> Except they are not acting like real people. They're acting like the
>> cliches that television presents to us as real people. I don't know
>> any real people as useless and unlikable as these characters.
>
> Well, I've known a few, but they're a distinct minority.
>>
>> In real life people do not all scream in fear and run around in
>> circles in a panic during an emergency. Most of them freeze in place
>> and the more alert and/or capable figure out what to do and spring
>> into action sooner. On TV and in films, everyone screams uselessly
>> and runs around in circles knocking things over in a panic.
>
> This show in particular seems to be lacking in sensible
> characters. And I still miss the humor when things get hairy that I
> always liked in SG1.


Yes! Jack and Daniel in particular were often *hilarious* when things got
hairy.
I miss that sort of friendly/snarky interaction.

Kes


Dragon Lady

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:08:50 PM11/22/09
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"A Watcher" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Dude, if that's the only kind of people you know, I seriously feel sorry for
you.


Dragon Lady

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:42:12 PM11/22/09
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"A Watcher" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It different all right. But it's only refreshing if you consider depressing
to be a definition of refreshing.


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