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David  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 4:23 pm
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From: David <dimla...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 4:23 pm
Subject: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/13/firefly-reunion-special-delivers-bi...

'Firefly' reunion special delivers big for Science Channel
by Sandra Gonzalez

The Browncoats came out strong on Sunday night for the Firefly Reunion
special.

Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers and
was also the Science Channel s most-watched Sunday night ever among
the 25-54 demo with a 0.5 rating, the network said today.

The special, which was moderated by EW s Jeff Jensen, brought together
stars Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, Summer Glau, and more for a chat
about everything from the show s truncated run on Fox to its
incredible cult following.


 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 4:26 pm
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From: hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:26:17 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
On Nov 13, 4:23 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 'Firefly' reunion special delivers big for Science Channel

Many people don't get Science Channel.  It should've been aired on a
channel that's more widely available.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 7:03 pm
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From: Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:05:56 -0500
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 4:23 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> 'Firefly' reunion special delivers big for Science Channel

> Many people don't get Science Channel.  It should've been aired on a
> channel that's more widely available.

And you'd kind of think a channel called "Science Channel" would be
about science, not fiction, but then I seem to recall some dicussion of
that when the show was announced.

   Michael


 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 7:31 pm
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From: "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:31:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
"Michael Black"  wrote in message

news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1211131905220.7788@darkstar.example.org...

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 4:23 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> 'Firefly' reunion special delivers big for Science Channel

> Many people don't get Science Channel.  It should've been aired on a
> channel that's more widely available.

And you'd kind of think a channel called "Science Channel" would be
about science, not fiction, but then I seem to recall some dicussion of
that when the show was announced.

================================

I'm going out on a limb in thinking that folks interested in science MIGHT
just be interested in science fiction too.  And vice versa.

More appropriate than wrestling on the SyFy network I think.  Or the reality
crap on A&E and Bravo.  Gotta pay the bills...


 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 10:09 am
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From: Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:09:11 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 10:09 am
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
In article
<c8af3f24-f2e4-47d6-a351-931e19c4c...@s14g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

 hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 4:23 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > 'Firefly' reunion special delivers big for Science Channel

> Many people don't get Science Channel.  It should've been aired on a
> channel that's more widely available.

Looks like they aired it because they've also started running reruns of
Firefly.

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Arlington, MA


 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 3:34 pm
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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:34:46 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:

> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

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 More options Nov 15 2012, 2:14 am
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From: Madlove <madl...@arkham.dc>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:14:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

Jim G. wrote:
> David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
>> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers
> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
> saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

Apart from 'Buffy' and 'Angel' has JW had *any* TV success?
Both 'FF' and 'DH' were yanked due to lack of an audience.

 
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 4:17 am
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:17:21 +0000
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

Madlove wrote:
> Jim G. wrote:
>> David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
>>> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

>> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
>> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
>> saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

> Apart from 'Buffy' and 'Angel' has JW had *any* TV success?
> Both 'FF' and 'DH' were yanked due to lack of an audience.

A very narrow definition of success.

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 More options Nov 15 2012, 3:22 pm
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From: Madlove <madl...@arkham.dc>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:22:36 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

David wrote:
> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers
Jim G. wrote:
> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything
> worth saying about this short-lived show has already been said.
Madlove wrote:
> Apart from 'Buffy' and 'Angel' has JW had *any* TV success?
> Both 'FF' and 'DH' were yanked due to lack of an audience.
AC wrote:
> A very narrow definition of success.

Buffy  - 7 Sns.

Angel - 5 Sns.

TV shows old and new send DVD sales soaring

"Once the studios hit on the entire season concept, it really took off,"
said Zane Plsek, director of video for the Wherehouse Music chain.

One sign that younger fans have embraced the concept is that shows such as
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" are among the chain's biggest
sellers.

http://www.seattlepi.com/ae/tv/article/TV-shows-old-and-new-send-DVD-...


 
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 More options Nov 16 2012, 3:42 pm
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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
Madlove sent the following on Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:14:27 -0400:

> Jim G. wrote:
> > David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
> >> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

> > Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> > disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
> > saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

> Apart from 'Buffy' and 'Angel' has JW had *any* TV success?

Commercial success? No. And before last summer, you could arguably say
that the "TV" part is superfluous, as Buffy and Angel would not have
survived for long on the "big four" networks of the day.

> Both 'FF' and 'DH' were yanked due to lack of an audience.

Before Avengers, Joss's appeal was relatively small and relatively
strong.

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"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN


 
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 More options Nov 17 2012, 11:38 pm
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From: David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:38:11 -0700
Local: Sat, Nov 17 2012 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
On 11/14/2012 1:34 PM, Jim G. wrote:

> David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
>> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
> saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

Wouldn't that depend on how many people actually subscribe to the
channel it was on?

 
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William December Starr  
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 3:24 pm
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From: wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date: 18 Nov 2012 15:24:27 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 18 2012 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
In article <o9l7a8h4pk2325u0qdh549b1oct6oql...@4ax.com>,
Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> said:

> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything
> worth saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

I don't know where all these "hardcore Whedonites" are, but I gotta
say that since I came back into r.a.t in April I think I've seen a
lot more of you complaining about them than I've actually seen any
_of_ them.

-- wds


 
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 3:40 pm
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From: Madlove <madl...@arkham.dc>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:40:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

Madlove wrote:
> Apart from 'Buffy' and 'Angel' has JW had *any* TV success?
Jim G. wrote:
> Commercial success? No. And before last summer, you could arguably say
> that the "TV" part is superfluous, as Buffy and Angel would not have
> survived for long on the "big four" networks of the day.

JW seems to have hit his peak with those two shows, as everything else
he did
got canned pretty quickly. Dunno how he landed that plumb job on 'Avengers'.

Jim G. wrote:
> Before Avengers, Joss's appeal was relatively small and relatively strong.

His following was fairly large (and quite vocal) due to Buffy and Angel.

 
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 5:53 pm
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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:53:34 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

Madlove <madl...@arkham.dc> wrote:
>[Joss Whedan] seems to have hit his peak with those two shows, as
>everything else he did got canned pretty quickly. Dunno how he landed
>that plumb job on 'Avengers'.

Uh, everyone behind the cameras in Hollywood remembers high school exactly
the way he portrayed it. You do know that Buffy was a documentary, right?

 
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 6:49 am
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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 07:49:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Madlove <madl...@arkham.dc> wrote:

>> [Joss Whedan] seems to have hit his peak with those two shows, as
>> everything else he did got canned pretty quickly. Dunno how he landed
>> that plumb job on 'Avengers'.
> Uh, everyone behind the cameras in Hollywood remembers high school exactly
> the way he portrayed it. You do know that Buffy was a documentary, right?

Yep, I read that some of Buffy's adventures were a metaphor for high
school life.

1. She meets a cool guy who isn't what he seems to be, and after she
sleeps with
him he changes into a monster.

2. She meets a cool guy who isn't what he seems to be, and after she
sleeps with
him he reveals himself to be a player who doesn't call her back.

3. Her schoolmates and friends are two-faced sneaks who aren't what they
seem to be.

4. The high school principal is a domineering idiot (no surprise there).

5. The couples lie to, and cheat on, one another (see "two-faced sneaks"
above).

etc. etc. etc.

But unless the people behind the cameras were in charge of hiring him,
I'd still like to
know how JW landed 'The Avengers' gig.


 
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 4:06 pm
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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:06:10 -0600
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Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
David Johnston sent the following on Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:38:11 -0700:

> On 11/14/2012 1:34 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> > David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
> >> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

> > Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> > disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
> > saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

> Wouldn't that depend on how many people actually subscribe to the
> channel it was on?

Well, for starters, DirecTV carries it, which is a pretty good-sized
chunk of the potential audience right there. Can anyone else here speak
to whether other outlets carry it? Cox? Time Warner? Others?

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 More options Nov 19 2012, 5:05 pm
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From: David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:05:31 -0700
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
On 11/19/2012 2:06 PM, Jim G. wrote:

> David Johnston sent the following on Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:38:11 -0700:
>> On 11/14/2012 1:34 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> David sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:23:49 -0500:
>>>> Firefly: Browncoats Unite garnered a total of 1.2 million viewers

>>> Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
>>> disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything worth
>>> saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

>> Wouldn't that depend on how many people actually subscribe to the
>> channel it was on?

> Well, for starters, DirecTV carries it, which is a pretty good-sized
> chunk of the potential audience right there.

Is it part of their basic package?

 
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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:05:53 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 26 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
David Johnston sent the following on Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:05:31 -0700:

Everyone I know who has DirecTV seems to have it, but maybe they all get
the same basic upgrade.

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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:05:53 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 26 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: "Firefly" reunion special watched by 1.2 million
William December Starr sent the following on 18 Nov 2012 15:24:27 -0500:

> In article <o9l7a8h4pk2325u0qdh549b1oct6oql...@4ax.com>,
> Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> said:

> > Which speaks to two realities. Hardcore Whedonites are
> > disproportionately vocal, and (for the rest of us) everything
> > worth saying about this short-lived show has already been said.

> I don't know where all these "hardcore Whedonites" are, but I gotta
> say that since I came back into r.a.t in April I think I've seen a
> lot more of you complaining about them than I've actually seen any
> _of_ them.

(1) I'm no more "complaining" about the reality of "hardcore Whedonites"
than I am "complaining" that water is wet or that the sun rises in the
east.

(2) They don't congregate on r.a.t. or anywhere else on USENET. They
tend to gravitate to web forums, where avatars and pictures and other
shiny things can add to their entertainment.

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