Database Crash
Jay Denebeim
very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
down since the 4th.
Jay
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Charlie E.
Denebeim) wrote:
>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>down since the 4th.
>
>Jay
thought I would try and reply, and see if I am still listed. Wondered
what had happened for the last couple of days... :-(
Charlie
Mac Breck
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
It's been so long, how do we do that again? (Hopefully this will go
through and rejoining will be unnecessary.
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
I was wondering.
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Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Galen (to Gideon): "I've been penalized before for helping other
people. I've been trying to decide whether or not I should risk it
again."
Wes Struebing
wrote:
Testing - as Charlie did.
(remembering the lightning when you still lived in Colorado...)
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and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
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Amy Guskin
(in article <5f0ep59ln5e2o37ll...@4ax.com>):
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:14:33 -0800, Charlie E. <edmo...@ieee.org>
> wrote:
>
>> thought I would try and reply, and see if I am still listed. Wondered
>> what had happened for the last couple of days... :-(
>>
>> Charlie
>
> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
Also testing.
Amy
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"2010 is the Year of Questions"
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Jan
Guskin says...
>
>>
>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>
>Also testing.
>
Me three.
Jan
--
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Kay Shapero
ais...@fjordstone.com says...
> >> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:21:20 -0500, Wes Struebing wrote
> (in article <5f0ep59ln5e2o37ll...@4ax.com>):
>
> > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:14:33 -0800, Charlie E. <edmo...@ieee.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> thought I would try and reply, and see if I am still listed. Wondered
> >> what had happened for the last couple of days... :-(
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >
> > Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>
> Also testing.
>
> Amy
>
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http://www.kayshapero.net
Elko T
the "follow ups header too long" syndrome rear its ugly head. (Jay, are
you going to ever do something about it, or not? I've been unable to
post to threads several times since, because of that. I especially
regret the one time where I was not able to reply to Amy concerning tea.)
Jan
>
>In article <0001HW.C7BC6CA7...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
>Guskin says...
>>
>>>
>>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>>
>>Also testing.
>>
>
>Me three.
>
>Jan
And come to think of it, thanks for fixing it, Jay!!
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
testing...
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
Chris Adams
>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Jay Denebeim wrote:
>
>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>
>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>> down since the 4th.
>>
>> Jay
>
>testing...
<aol>me too</aol>
--
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Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
SLerman
> Once upon a time, Lance Corporal \"Hammer\" Schultz <starf...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Jay Denebeim wrote:
>
> >> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> >> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> >> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> >> down since the 4th.
>
> >> Jay
>
> >testing...
>
> <aol>me too</aol>
> --
> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
Can I play too?
Christina Wilson
Christina
Kurt Ullman
dene...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
Tap tap . Is this thing on?
--
I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton
Captain Infinity
Christina Wilson wrote:
>I'm also testing
I'm not.
NON-CONFORMISTS UNITE!!
**
Captain Infinity
Stile4aly
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
>
> --
> * Jay Denebeim Moderator rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated *
> * newsgroup submission address: b5...@deepthot.org *
> * personal contact address: deneb...@deepthot.org *
I have always been here.
Dennis (Icarus)
"Jan" <janmsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hn70b...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <0001HW.C7BC6CA7...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Amy
> Guskin says...
>>
>>>
>>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>>
>>Also testing.
>>
>
> Me three.
>
Testing as well
Dennis
.
James A. Robbins
news:hn6qub$46q$1...@dent.deepthot.org...
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
CQ, CQ, can anybody hear me?
--
James A. Robbins
I've had a Swiss cheese memory for years.
But it is usually gouda enough.
Jo'Asia
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
So let's see if it works...
Jo'Asia
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--<()> -< joasia @ hell . pl >-------------< http://bujold.sf-f.pl/ >-
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Giovanni Wassen
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:59:55 +0000 (UTC), dene...@deepthot.org (Jay
> Denebeim) wrote:
>
>>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>
>>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>>down since the 4th.
>>
>>Jay
> thought I would try and reply, and see if I am still listed.
Good idea :)
--
Gio
Dan Dassow
> > Denebeim) wrote:
>
> >>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> >>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> >>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> >>down since the 4th.
>
> >>Jay
> > thought I would try and reply, and see if I am still listed.
>
> Good idea :)
>
Testing, testing ... is this mike on, I can't hear anything coming out
of the speakers ... testing.
Dan Dassow
Kurt Ullman
<3363f985-db37-454b...@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Dan Dassow <dan_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
We increased the volume on your monitor. Is that better?
Andrew Swallow
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
>
I hope the newsgroup recovers soon.
Andrew Swallow
Uwe
Uwe
B.H. Ackler
Bryan
On 03/09/2010 7:59 PM, Jay Denebeim wrote:
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database.
>
> Jay
Chris Adams
Wait a minute. I thought you only controlled the horizontal and the
vertical; you have the volume too!?
--
Chris Adams <cma...@hiwaay.net>
Dan Dassow
> Once upon a time, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >In article
> ><3363f985-db37-454b-a89d-b9f82e596...@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > Dan Dassow <dan_das...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Testing, testing ... is this mike on, I can't hear anything coming out
> >> of the speakers ... testing.
>
> > We increased the volume on your monitor. Is that better?
>
> Wait a minute. I thought you only controlled the horizontal and the
> vertical; you have the volume too!?
We control your volume was in the unaired and totally unavailable
pilot. ;-)
Thanks Jay!
Dan Dassow
... not to mention totally the product of a flight of fancy.
Paul Hahn
> In article <0001HW.C7BC6CA7...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
> Guskin says...
>>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>>
>> Also testing.
>
> Me three.
Also testing. I posted a message yesterday about Wonder Woman that
didn't go through, and would have posted another about the Tron : Legacy
trailer if the group had been up, but by now Jan and the Hammer have
beaten me to it.
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We need a voting system that avoids vote-splitting, reduces the
incentive to compromise, and encourages the growth of third parties!
See http://radicalcentrism.org/majority_voting.html
Joan
Just testing.
Now back to lurking.
Joan
Bill
still subscribed :)
Bill
Dave Hayslett
....
> Me three.
oh why not
--
Dave (3/10/2010 11:01:00 AM)
Tour the world in a heavy metal band
but they run out of gas, the plane can never land.
Doug Freyburger
>
> I have always been here.
There will be lenses.
<*>
Kathryn Huxtable
> In article <hn6qub$46q$1...@dent.deepthot.org>,
> dene...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
>
>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>
>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>> down since the 4th.
>>
>> Jay
>
> Tap tap . Is this thing on?
No.
-K
Scotto
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
Testing... we begin bombing Russia in 5 minutes.... testing....
--
Scotto
Craig
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. �I'm
> very sorry about that. �People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. �It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
>
> --
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> * newsgroup submission address: b5...@deepthot.org � � � � � � � �*
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Testing as everyone else is.
Cheryl Martin
Jay Denebeim <dene...@deepthot.org> wrote:
>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>down since the 4th.
What Jay did not mention is that if you have to re-register, you are
also on hand moderation for a short period.
If you want to re-register and not post, send an email to:
b5mod-r...@deepthot.org
That will retrieve a registration form. If you have issues, please
email us at b5mod-...@deepthot.org or b5m...@deepthot.org
Cheryl
(will be happy to be done with school in the Fall so she can
play on the newsgroup and elsenet)
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Wes Struebing
"I can't do that, Dave"...
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Wes Struebing
Martin) wrote:
>In article <hn6qub$46q$1...@dent.deepthot.org>,
>Jay Denebeim <dene...@deepthot.org> wrote:
>>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>
>>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>>down since the 4th.
>
>What Jay did not mention is that if you have to re-register, you are
>also on hand moderation for a short period.
>
>If you want to re-register and not post, send an email to:
>b5mod-r...@deepthot.org
>
>That will retrieve a registration form. If you have issues, please
>email us at b5mod-...@deepthot.org or b5m...@deepthot.org
>
>Cheryl
>(will be happy to be done with school in the Fall so she can
>play on the newsgroup and elsenet)
Thanks to Jay for the effort (successful, I might add<G>) to get us
back.
"It's alive! It's alive!!!!"
Matt Ion
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
>
From one part-time IT guru to another: D-OH!
Bruce Goatly
> From one part-time IT guru to another: D-OH!
To pick a nit and test post simultaneously: that's "D'oh!".
--
Bruce
M.J. Sammon
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:59:55 +0000 (UTC), dene...@deepthot.org (Jay
> Denebeim) wrote:
>
>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>
>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>> down since the 4th.
>>
>> Jay
> what had happened for the last couple of days... :-(
>
> Charlie
>
YAT (yet another test)
shawn
Denebeim) wrote:
>We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
>First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>down since the 4th.
>
>Jay
Ack! Sorry to hear about the crash.
Iva
> I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
Well, at least it doesn't happen regularly!
Hopefully I'm still on the list....
-----
Iva
wrrlykam
> "Jay Denebeim" <deneb...@deepthot.org> wrote in message
All your base pairs are belonging to us.
tomster
Mac Breck
Hm, it seems that replies are getting through, but new threads are not.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Galen (to Gideon): "I've been penalized before for helping other
people. I've been trying to decide whether or not I should risk it
again."
Jan
>
>wrrlykam wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 5:15 pm, "Iva" <i...@ptd.net> wrote:
>>> "Jay Denebeim" <deneb...@deepthot.org> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:hn6qub$46q$1...@dent.deepthot.org...
>>>
>>>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database.
>>>> I'm
>>>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>>
>>>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>>>> down since the 4th.
>>>
>>>> Jay
>>>
>>> Well, at least it doesn't happen regularly!
>>>
>>> Hopefully I'm still on the list....
>>> -----
>>> Iva
>>
>> All your base pairs are belonging to us.
>
>Hm, it seems that replies are getting through, but new threads are not.
>
How long has it been since you sent it? Remember, new threads are always hand
moderated so one of our intrepid mods has to pass it along. Amy generally
moderates at least three times per day.
Jan
--
“Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy”
--Spider Robinson
Check out http://wedreamforjeanne.blogspot.com/ for ways to help Jeanne Robinson
fight cancer.
Mac Breck
> In article <pf6dnfBl7fRuMQTW...@supernews.com>, Mac
> Breck says...
>>
>> wrrlykam wrote:
>>> On Mar 11, 5:15 pm, "Iva" <i...@ptd.net> wrote:
>>>> "Jay Denebeim" <deneb...@deepthot.org> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:hn6qub$46q$1...@dent.deepthot.org...
>>>>
>>>>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've
>>>>> been down since the 4th.
>>>>
>>>>> Jay
>>>>
>>>> Well, at least it doesn't happen regularly!
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully I'm still on the list....
>>>> -----
>>>> Iva
>>>
>>> All your base pairs are belonging to us.
>>
>> Hm, it seems that replies are getting through, but new threads are
>> not.
>>
>
> How long has it been since you sent it? Remember, new threads are
> always hand moderated so one of our intrepid mods has to pass it
> along. Amy generally moderates at least three times per day.
>
> Jan
Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-)
Amy Guskin
(in article <xo-dnZamLpYNJATW...@supernews.com>):
> Jan wrote:
>> In article <pf6dnfBl7fRuMQTW...@supernews.com>, Mac
>> Breck says...
>>>
>>> Hm, it seems that replies are getting through, but new threads are
>>> not.
>>>
>>
>> How long has it been since you sent it? Remember, new threads are
>> always hand moderated so one of our intrepid mods has to pass it
>> along. Amy generally moderates at least three times per day.
>>
>> Jan
>
> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
Mac has me killfiled so he has probably never seen this information (even
though I've posted it numerous times), but I do indeed moderate three times a
day: first thing in the morning, lunchtime, and bedtime (which all vary, but
which are in eastern US time). If you post a new thread (or on a moderated
one) right after I've moderated at lunchtime, it's likely you won't see your
message post until 11-11:30ish, a good ten hours. If you post immediately
after I've gone to bed, it could be 8 or 9 hours before you'll see your
message post, depending on how fuzzy I am in the morning and how long it
takes me to get conscious.
But complaining about seven hours is hardly worth a response.
Amy
--
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A Question a Day for Journaling, Self-Discovery, and Transformation
"2010 is the Year of Questions"
tenthousandquestions.com
Jan
Guskin says...
>
>>
>> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
>> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
>
>Mac has me killfiled so he has probably never seen this information (even
>though I've posted it numerous times), but I do indeed moderate three times a
>day: first thing in the morning, lunchtime, and bedtime (which all vary, but
>which are in eastern US time). If you post a new thread (or on a moderated
>one) right after I've moderated at lunchtime, it's likely you won't see your
>message post until 11-11:30ish, a good ten hours. If you post immediately
>after I've gone to bed, it could be 8 or 9 hours before you'll see your
>message post, depending on how fuzzy I am in the morning and how long it
>takes me to get conscious.
>
>But complaining about seven hours is hardly worth a response.
>
>Amy
I don't think it was complaining, just that Mac doesn't hang here a lot or start
new threads much.
One other thing to be aware of is that it sometimes takes a while for posts to
even reach the queue in order to be moderated. I usually figure on waiting 48
hours or so before re-sending a new thread.
And then there are the Twilight Zone posts that go walkabout for weeks and
finally pop up! <g>
Mac Breck
> In article
> <0001HW.C7BFB4F1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
> Guskin says...
>>
>>>
>>> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
>>> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
>>
>> Mac has me killfiled
True. Some folks have a talent for bypassing my long fuse and going
straight to the short one, and prompt criticality. You're in that
select group.
>> so he has probably never seen this information
>> (even though I've posted it numerous times), but I do indeed
>> moderate three times a day: first thing in the morning, lunchtime,
>> and bedtime (which all vary, but which are in eastern US time).
True. This is the first time I've seen it.
>> If
>> you post a new thread (or on a moderated one) right after I've
>> moderated at lunchtime, it's likely you won't see your message post
>> until 11-11:30ish, a good ten hours. If you post immediately after
>> I've gone to bed, it could be 8 or 9 hours before you'll see your
>> message post, depending on how fuzzy I am in the morning and how
>> long it takes me to get conscious.
>>
>> But complaining about seven hours is hardly worth a response.
>>
>> Amy
>
> I don't think it was complaining,
True. I just thought it might be something to do with the recent
mishap.
> just that Mac doesn't hang here a
> lot
True. I spend about 10 seconds here per day, on average.
> or start new threads much.
Hardly ever.
> One other thing to be aware of is that it sometimes takes a while for
> posts to even reach the queue in order to be moderated. I usually
> figure on waiting 48 hours or so before re-sending a new thread.
I wasn't even considering a re-send yet. In a week or so, I might have.
> And then there are the Twilight Zone posts that go walkabout for
> weeks and finally pop up! <g>
And mine could have been one of those, coming in after orbiting Pluto a
few times.
Cheryl Martin
>In article <0001HW.C7BFB4F1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
>Guskin says...
>>
>>>
>>> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
>>> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
>>
>>Mac has me killfiled so he has probably never seen this information (even
>>though I've posted it numerous times), but I do indeed moderate three times a
>>day: first thing in the morning, lunchtime, and bedtime (which all vary, but
>>which are in eastern US time). If you post a new thread (or on a moderated
>>one) right after I've moderated at lunchtime, it's likely you won't see your
>>message post until 11-11:30ish, a good ten hours. If you post immediately
>>after I've gone to bed, it could be 8 or 9 hours before you'll see your
>>message post, depending on how fuzzy I am in the morning and how long it
>>takes me to get conscious.
>>
>>But complaining about seven hours is hardly worth a response.
>>
>>Amy
> I don't think it was complaining, just that Mac doesn't hang here a
>lot or start new threads much. One other thing to be aware of is
>that it sometimes takes a while for posts to even reach the queue in
>order to be moderated. I usually figure on waiting 48 hours or so
>before re-sending a new thread. And then there are the Twilight Zone
>posts that go walkabout for weeks and finally pop up!
The way usenet works, it is absurd to expect a post to pop up anywhere
except on your local server right away. Especially these days with so
many ISPs no longer part of the news stream.
Cheryl
Jan
>
>Jan wrote:
>> In article
>> <0001HW.C7BFB4F1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
>> Guskin says...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
>>>> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
>>>
>>> Mac has me killfiled
>
>True. Some folks have a talent for bypassing my long fuse and going
>straight to the short one, and prompt criticality. You're in that
>select group.
>
If you're going to have somebody killfiled, Mac it's not playing fair to 'talk'
to them when they can't respond where you can see it without it being copied by
somebody else. I do have to point out that it's really not a good idea to have
the most reliable moderator killfiled. She may just be posting information you
should know--which is why I copied what I did.
Amy Guskin
(in article <6oqdnc38A8aZOAfW...@supernews.com>):
>> In article
>> <0001HW.C7BFB4F1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
>> Guskin says...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac has me killfiled
>
> True. Some folks have a talent for bypassing my long fuse and going
> straight to the short one, and prompt criticality. You're in that
> select group. <<
It was unnecessary to insult me here. Keep it to yourself next time.
Dan Dassow
> In article <0001HW.C7BFB4F1001432D2B01AD...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
> Guskin says...
>
> >> Almost 7 hrs. I just thought it might have something to do with the
> >> crash. Anyway, it just came through. :-) <<
>
> >Mac has me killfiled so he has probably never seen this information (even
> >though I've posted it numerous times), but I do indeed moderate three times a
> >day: first thing in the morning, lunchtime, and bedtime (which all vary, but
> >which are in eastern US time). If you post a new thread (or on a moderated
> >one) right after I've moderated at lunchtime, it's likely you won't see your
> >message post until 11-11:30ish, a good ten hours. If you post immediately
> >after I've gone to bed, it could be 8 or 9 hours before you'll see your
> >message post, depending on how fuzzy I am in the morning and how long it
> >takes me to get conscious.
>
> >But complaining about seven hours is hardly worth a response.
>
> >Amy
>
> I don't think it was complaining, just that Mac doesn't hang here a lot or start
> new threads much.
>
> One other thing to be aware of is that it sometimes takes a while for posts to
> even reach the queue in order to be moderated. I usually figure on waiting 48
> hours or so before re-sending a new thread.
>
> And then there are the Twilight Zone posts that go walkabout for weeks and
> finally pop up! <g>
>
> Jan
>
My favorite "Twilight Zone posts" are duplicate posts posted a day or
two apart that show up at the same time.
Dan Dassow
Stefan
> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> down since the 4th.
>
> Jay
>
> * Jay Denebeim Moderator rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated *
> * newsgroup submission address: b5...@deepthot.org *
> * moderator contact address: b5mod-requ...@deepthot.org *
> * personal contact address: deneb...@deepthot.org *
Hey Jay,
that's not a delurk-rastb5m-census, isn't it?
Ste ;-) fan
--
Kosh: "All arranged, as is payment, we will meet in Red-3 at the
hour of scampering"
[Deathwalker]
Dan Dassow
> On 10 Mrz., 01:59, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
>
> > We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
> > very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>
> > First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
> > down since the 4th.
>
> > Jay
>
> that's not a delurk-rastb5m-census, isn't it?
> Ste ;-) fan
>
I doubt it. The Census Bureau will not be sending out census forms
until next week. :-)
Dan Dassow
Mac Breck
Why did the Census Bureau send me a letter (1 sheet of paper, 1 envelope
and postage.) just to say that they'd be sending out the forms in a
week? Why not just send out the forms? It's not like I was waiting for
the forms and was going to check on why they hadn't arrived yet.
Elko T
> Dan Dassow wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 12:59 pm, Stefan <colj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 10 Mrz., 01:59, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
>>>
>>>> We seem to have had a major database crash in the user database. I'm
>>>> very sorry about that. People might have to re-join the newsgroup.
>>>> First time in several years that happened. It seems like we've been
>>>> down since the 4th.
>>>> Jay
>>> Hey Jay,
>>> that's not a delurk-rastb5m-census, isn't it?
>>> Ste ;-) fan
>>>
>> I doubt it. The Census Bureau will not be sending out census forms
>> until next week. :-)
>
> Why did the Census Bureau send me a letter (1 sheet of paper, 1 envelope
> and postage.) just to say that they'd be sending out the forms in a
> week? Why not just send out the forms? It's not like I was waiting for
> the forms and was going to check on why they hadn't arrived yet.
To warn you. Lest you suffer the consequences of pleasant or
unpleasant surprise, when the actual forms arrive. And then sue the
Census Bureau for damages - that will not do. Censusee forewarned -
Bureau forearmed.
Mac Breck
Warn me? Zzzzzzz.
It's idiotic government waste.
Kurt Ullman
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Probably, but the REAL idiocy is those dumb commercials.
--
I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton
Blair Leatherwood
For us, maybe. However, sending out a heads-up notice will be less
expensive (and yes, I've seen an estimate of about $52 million for the
advertising campaign, so that's not cheap), than sending out paid
workers to follow-up on all of those people who will think that the
actual census form is junk mail (and it's not, so don't get started on
that discussion).
You really do have to do a blitz campaign on things like this. Yes,
there will still be people who are blissfully (or willfully) unaware
that the census is occurring (how many people know someone who said,
"Oh, is Avatar in the theaters now?"). Even if this advance mailing
irritates those of use in the upper intellectual and perceptual
range--and that's all of us here, of course!--the greater public good is
served.
Blair
Stefan
Get it the non-intellectual and pretty easy way: "We did it!"
http://2010.census.gov/mediacenter/spread-message/dora.php
Stefan
--
Delenn: "We believe that no race can be truly intelligent
without laughter"
[A Race Through Dark Places]
lizardgirl
ah, so those were 'warning' letters heralding the tax rebate checks of
yesteryears. damn, i knew i shouldn't have opened the mailbox.
g
Captain Infinity
Blair Leatherwood wrote:
>all of those people who will think that the
>actual census form is junk mail (and it's not, so don't get started on
>that discussion).
True, it's not trash. Mine goes right into the recycle bin. FOR THE GOOD
OF THE PLANET!!
**
Captain Infinity
John W. Kennedy
No, it's realistic treatment of idiotic citizens. They're hoping that,
by tapping the public's shoulder half a dozen times, they will be able
to reduce the number of addresses that will have to be visited in
person.
Not to mention having to deal with the fact that the Repugnicans sent
out phony census forms a few weeks ago.
Amy Guskin
(in article
<9b6fdcb9-bcfb-4753...@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>):
Yeah, I just read about that -- astonishing! As for the current alert
campaign, people really have to understand that it is like pulling teeth to
get people -- some people -- to complete and return their census form. Some
don't do it out of distrust; some because they don't look at their mail
carefully; some just because they're contrary ("Government sucks, so screw
them, I'm not filling out my census form"). In any case, this is, as you
say, a version of tapping people on the shoulder. Those who mistrust or are
arbitrarily contrary won't fill them out anyway, but at least this way they
might catch a good percentage of those who barely glance at their mail and
might not otherwise notice it when it comes in.
Kurt Ullman
<0001HW.C7C2FC5E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Amy Guskin <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote:w
> say, a version of tapping people on the shoulder. Those who mistrust or are
> arbitrarily contrary won't fill them out anyway, but at least this way they
> might catch a good percentage of those who barely glance at their mail and
> might not otherwise notice it when it comes in.
>
was done(g). However, i still think the warning letter is a waste
because those who barely glance at their mail (the ones targeted) are
much more likely to miss the #10 envelope than the big honkin' one that
the census itself comes in.
PhantomSteve
> In article
> <0001HW.C7BC6CA7...@news.eternal-september.org>, Amy
> Guskin says...
>>
>>>
>>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>>
>>Also testing.
>>
>
> Me three.
>
> Jan
>
>
Me four
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Dan Dassow
> Jan entertained (or was it annoyed?) us in message:
>
> > In article
> > Guskin says...
>
> >>> Testing - as Charlie did. <<
>
> >>Also testing.
>
> > Me three.
>
> > Jan
>
> Me four
>
Me fifty-five and counting.
Dan Dassow