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voxwoman

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Oct 16, 2009, 7:00:13 PM10/16/09
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I am currently trying to track down the original source for this - the
poster on LiveJournal claims this is on one of the B5 Facebook pages.
The things that concern me are (a) NOT JMS-written and (b) fan
fiction.

"Latest Update: Ok B5'rs...its confirmed, that there are a few new
B5's shows being produced...but NOT by Strazynski. Instead they are
high end professionally mastered FanFict shorts. I've spoken to a few
of the producers and they are t...hinking about releasing them via the
Vuze HD network in hopes to rekindle a new full length series to take
place after 2262 and will take place during the Drakh wars and
telepath wars."

the link to the post is this:
http://community.livejournal.com/babylon5/484829.html?view=4734941&style=mine#t4734941

-Wendy


Amy Guskin

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Oct 16, 2009, 10:04:16 PM10/16/09
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>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0400, voxwoman wrote
(in article
<27297073-0a55-4ef8...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>):

> I am currently trying to track down the original source for this - the
> poster on LiveJournal claims this is on one of the B5 Facebook pages.
> The things that concern me are (a) NOT JMS-written and (b) fan
> fiction. <<

Okay, I am going to state the bleedin' obvious here: you will have to be
VERY careful in discussions on this thread not to post story ideas.
Something that a fan fic writer writes, that isn't part of JMS's story, would
necessarily qualify as a story idea (no matter how lousy it is). You can
discuss the business/copyright infringement aspect of this issue all you
want, but please do NOT discuss any of the stories in anything but the most
broad terms (e.g. "it's a story about Lyta and Byron"). If you need to
refresh your memories about what constitutes a story idea, read this:

http://fjordstone.com/rastb5mod/storyfaq.html

Thanks,

Amy
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voxwoman

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:11:17 PM10/16/09
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On Oct 16, 10:04 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0400, voxwoman wrote
>
> (in article
> <27297073-0a55-4ef8-ab45-c4e0d0a22...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>):

Of course!

I posted here, because, quite frankly, I am NOT happy about this
development - and I'm trying to find out for real if WB is actually
talking to these people seriously about a "reimagining" of B5 (because
that's what it would have to be, wouldn't it?) I mean what else could
it be if JMS is not associated with the project?

-Wendy

jms...@aol.com

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Oct 17, 2009, 2:19:48 AM10/17/09
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> the link to the post is this:http://community.livejournal.com/babylon5/484829.html?view=4734941&st...
>
> -Wendy

Totally and unequivocally untrue.

First, WB does not have anything going with B5 at the moment, and
would not DO anything with B5 without my direct involvement.
(Interestingly enough, I had a meeting just a few days ago with the
HEAD of WB Television, and they confirmed that there's nothing in the
pipeline, in or out of the studio, and won't be until and unless I
authorize it. They're being very nice these days, for a variety of
reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.)

Second, bear in mind that the same guy who's putting this out there is
also saying that the episode title of each B5 installment has the
title said out loud at some point during that episode. Also totally
untrue.

Third, WB is fiercely protective of its copyrights. I've gotten them
to go easy on fan sites in general, and they've generally looked the
other way on parodies, but if anybody started producing any sort of
high-visibility films, the studio would be on them with restraining
orders almost instantly.

jms

Amy Guskin

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Oct 17, 2009, 7:26:24 AM10/17/09
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>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:11:17 -0400, voxwoman wrote
(in article
<a833fe58-43a5-4728...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>):

> On Oct 16, 10:04 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0400, voxwoman wrote
>>
>> (in article
>> <27297073-0a55-4ef8-ab45-c4e0d0a22...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> I am currently trying to track down the original source for this - the
>>> poster on LiveJournal claims this is on one of the B5 Facebook pages.
>>> The things that concern me are (a) NOT JMS-written and (b) fan
>>> fiction.  <<
>>
>> Okay, I am going to state the bleedin' obvious here: you will  have to be
>> VERY careful in discussions on this thread not to post story ideas.  
>> Something that a fan fic writer writes, that isn't part of JMS's story,
>> would
>> necessarily qualify as a story idea (no matter how lousy it is).  You can
>> discuss the business/copyright infringement aspect of this issue all you
>> want, but please do NOT discuss any of the stories in anything but the most
>> broad terms (e.g. "it's a story about Lyta and Byron").  If you need to
>> refresh your memories about what constitutes a story idea, read this:
>>
>> http://fjordstone.com/rastb5mod/storyfaq.html
>>
>

> Of course!
>
> I posted here, because, quite frankly, I am NOT happy about this
> development - and I'm trying to find out for real if WB is actually
> talking to these people seriously about a "reimagining" of B5 (because
> that's what it would have to be, wouldn't it?) I mean what else could
> it be if JMS is not associated with the project? <<

FYI, the caution wasn't directed at you personally; it was to anyone replying
on this thread. As for WB, I see that they mentioned WB involvement in a
_previous_ posting, but I got the idea this was maybe something different.
You think they're still claiming these "fanfic shorts" are going to be
sanctioned and distributed by WB?

Amy Guskin

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Oct 17, 2009, 7:29:57 AM10/17/09
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>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:19:48 -0400, jms...@aol.com wrote
(in article
<793b7fac-11e6-4b59...@i12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>):
>
> Totally and unequivocally untrue. <<

Dang, that's what I get for not reading ahead first. Well, at least this is
good news!

>> First, WB does not have anything going with B5 at the moment, and
> would not DO anything with B5 without my direct involvement. <<

That was what I thought. Glad to hear that's still the case.

>> (Interestingly enough, I had a meeting just a few days ago with the
> HEAD of WB Television, and they confirmed that there's nothing in the
> pipeline, in or out of the studio, and won't be until and unless I
> authorize it. They're being very nice these days, for a variety of
> reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.) <<

Intriguing.

>> Second, bear in mind that the same guy who's putting this out there is
> also saying that the episode title of each B5 installment has the
> title said out loud at some point during that episode. Also totally
> untrue. <<

Yeah, I took at look at the page, which I had not previously seen, and nearly
sprained my eyes from rolling them so hard. Particularly at that.

>> Third, WB is fiercely protective of its copyrights. I've gotten them
> to go easy on fan sites in general, and they've generally looked the
> other way on parodies, but if anybody started producing any sort of
> high-visibility films, the studio would be on them with restraining
> orders almost instantly. <<

I love the smell of cease-and-desist letters in the morning...

Thanks for clearing this up, Joe!

Jan

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Oct 17, 2009, 8:47:45 AM10/17/09
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In article <793b7fac-11e6-4b59...@i12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
jms...@aol.com says...

>
>On Oct 16, 4:00=A0pm, voxwoman <voxwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am currently trying to track down the original source for this - the
>> poster on LiveJournal claims this is on one of the B5 Facebook pages.
>> The things that concern me are (a) NOT JMS-written and (b) fan
>> fiction.
>>
>> "Latest Update: Ok B5'rs...its confirmed, that there are a few new
>> B5's shows being produced...but NOT by Strazynski. Instead they are
>> high end professionally mastered FanFict shorts. I've spoken to a few
>> of the producers and they are t...hinking about releasing them via the
>> Vuze HD network in hopes to rekindle a new full length series to take
>> place after 2262 and will take place during the Drakh wars and
>> telepath wars."
>>
>> the link to the post is this:http://community.livejournal.com/babylon5/48=
>4829.html?view=3D4734941&st...

>>
>> -Wendy
>
>Totally and unequivocally untrue.

Darnit, why can't JMS ever give a straight answer? ;-)

>
>First, WB does not have anything going with B5 at the moment, and
>would not DO anything with B5 without my direct involvement.
>(Interestingly enough, I had a meeting just a few days ago with the
>HEAD of WB Television, and they confirmed that there's nothing in the
>pipeline, in or out of the studio, and won't be until and unless I
>authorize it. They're being very nice these days, for a variety of
>reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.)

Interesting...

>
>Second, bear in mind that the same guy who's putting this out there is
>also saying that the episode title of each B5 installment has the
>title said out loud at some point during that episode. Also totally
>untrue.

I kind of think one of us *might* just possibly have noticed that before if it
had been true.

>
>Third, WB is fiercely protective of its copyrights. I've gotten them
>to go easy on fan sites in general, and they've generally looked the
>other way on parodies, but if anybody started producing any sort of
>high-visibility films, the studio would be on them with restraining
>orders almost instantly.
>
>jms
>

There's something about this...I could swear that I read something recently by
somebody who seemed to think that posting that kind of rumor, starting that kind
of discussion could be used to prove to the studio that there was interest and
perhaps light a fire under them to bring back a show. Darned if I can find it
now and I don't even swear that it was B5 related but it seems awfully familiar.

Jan


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Oct 17, 2009, 9:26:50 AM10/17/09
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In article <hbced...@drn.newsguy.com>, Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
> >Totally and unequivocally untrue.
>
> Darnit, why can't JMS ever give a straight answer? ;-)

Yeah. Don't just hate it when he channels his inner Vorlon (g).

>

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Blair Leatherwood

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Oct 17, 2009, 10:32:40 AM10/17/09
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jms...@aol.com wrote:
>
> They're <WB> being very nice these days, for a variety of

> reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.)

You are *such* a tease!

Blair

voxwoman

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Oct 17, 2009, 10:39:10 AM10/17/09
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Thank you for the clarification(s). That's what I thought, but I like
to be sure before I go bursting people's bubbles.

-Wendy

Ron

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Oct 18, 2009, 9:33:03 PM10/18/09
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On Oct 16, 9:04 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:00:13 -0400, voxwoman wrote
>
> (in article
> <27297073-0a55-4ef8-ab45-c4e0d0a22...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>):

ROFL! ROFL!

SLerman

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:56:56 AM10/19/09
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On Oct 17, 10:32 am, Blair Leatherwood <bleatherw...@comcast.net>
wrote:

As soon as I saw that, I immediately thought, "Does JMS ever post
anything these days that does not include a 'something is coming, but
I can't say anything yet' section?" I'm not complaining or anything,
but you'd think he's working for the CIA.

Kay Shapero

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:18:28 PM10/19/09
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In article <964245c6-58ac-48c8-bd25-
02510e...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, smle...@gmail.com says...
> On Oct 17, 10:32=A0am, Blair Leatherwood <bleatherw...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > jmsa...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > =A0 They're <WB> being very nice these days, for a variety of

> > > reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.)
> >
> > You are *such* a tease!
> >
> > Blair
>
> As soon as I saw that, I immediately thought, "Does JMS ever post
> anything these days that does not include a 'something is coming, but
> I can't say anything yet' section?" I'm not complaining or anything,
> but you'd think he's working for the CIA.
>

Leastwise in Joe's case, if the something actually happens the odds are
pretty good we'll like it. :)
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http://www.kayshapero.net

Wes Struebing

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:38:56 PM10/19/09
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT), SLerman <smle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You know we're going to have to terminate you with extreme prejudice,
now...
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and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
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David E. Powell

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Oct 25, 2009, 6:46:17 PM10/25/09
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On Oct 19, 10:38 pm, Wes Struebing <str...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT), SLerman <smler...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 17, 10:32 am, Blair Leatherwood <bleatherw...@comcast.net>
> >wrote:
> >> jmsa...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >> >   They're <WB> being very nice these days, for a variety of
> >> > reasons that I'll address at some point in the future.)
>
> >> You are *such* a tease!
>
> >> Blair
>
> >As soon as I saw that, I immediately thought, "Does JMS ever post
> >anything these days that does not include a 'something is coming, but
> >I can't say anything yet' section?" I'm not complaining or anything,
> >but you'd think he's working for the CIA.
>
> You know we're going to have to terminate you with extreme prejudice,
> now...

Well a similar problem, I guess - how close does each organization,
the CIA or SF producers and writers, have to guard their info, and
why? ;)

Doug Freyburger

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Oct 26, 2009, 11:34:54 AM10/26/09
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SLerman wrote:
>
> As soon as I saw that, I immediately thought, "Does JMS ever post
> anything these days that does not include a 'something is coming, but
> I can't say anything yet' section?" I'm not complaining or anything,
> but you'd think he's working for the CIA.

Culinary Institute of America - I want Joe as a judge on an Iron Chef:
America episode!

David E. Powell

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Oct 30, 2009, 6:10:07 PM10/30/09
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Your special ingredient: Spoo....

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