It's official...or should I say N'SYNC!
Cre8inator
http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=13691
It's official...some members of N'SYNC will be in episode 2.
...perhaps the good news is that it ain't on film yet. We can all boycott this
travesty and make 'em pull it. Lucas may not understand his fan base but he
CAN understand a "box office flop"!
Who's with me?
HppyButchr
>this
>travesty and make 'em pull it. Lucas may not understand his fan base but he
>CAN understand a "box office flop"!
>
>Who's with me?
>
While I have stated I don't really give a damn who makes cameo appearances in
the backgrounds of movies, the idea of you turning episode 2 into a "box office
flop" is really amusing.
There are people who flat out -hated- Episode 1. A ton of them. Its still the
top grossing Star wars movie as of yet. critics were given two weeks to
lambaste the film, and it still did all the business it did. Lucas could make
it two hours of Jar jar square dancing with NSync and it would still make a
billion dollars so long as it started with "A Long time ago, etc"
Don't like an idea, thats fine, youre entitled, but c'mon, do you really think
a newsgroup of maybe 100 people -tops- would make any shred of difference even
if we -all- agreed with you?
~Jeremy
The Sensible Butcher
HppyButchr
as for it being, official, its not official until its on screen.
~Jeremy
The Happy Butcher
Princess Buttercup's Castle of Mayhem
news:20020103233420...@mb-fv.aol.com...
> >It's official...some members of N'SYNC will be in episode 2.
>
> as for it being, official, its not official until its on screen.
Would it be official when N*Sync members get their LFL paychecks? ;)
PB
Cryofax
> it two hours of Jar jar square dancing with NSync and it would still make
a
> billion dollars so long as it started with "A Long time ago, etc"
I'll take that bet. By the way my 7-year-old daughter is absolutely thrilled
at this development, so perhaps Lucas is crazy like a fox? Heh...
I can see it now, Jar Jar will be involved in a side-splitting musical
number where he tries to dance with the "boys" (dressed as cutesy aliens)
but just can't seem to stay "N'Sync"! I can barely type this as just the
thought is making me fall out of my chait with laughter!!! Oh that Jar Jar
gets me every time!
- Cryo
Cre8inator
N'SYNC fans.
Can a 100 people make a difference?
Generally speaking...what country do you live in? Have you been keeping up on
current events? 100 people can make a helluva difference.
Will Episode 2 flop? Not a chance in hell.
Will it suck anyway? Could be.
Skuzz
"Cre8inator" <cre8i...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20020103225634...@mb-fr.aol.com...
A background cameo causing a "box office flop"? At most, wouldn't they
be in a minor 'pick-up' scene? I mean, I know N'SYNC are just 5 steaming
piles of pig shit shaped like a boy band, but can even THEY ruin a Star Wars
movie? Trust me, If Episode 2 blows, it won't be because of N'SYNC.
--
Skuzz the Merciless
--
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and a dark side and it holds the universe together.
-Carl Zwanzig
>
> Who's with me?
No thanks.
Robert Whelan
> >...perhaps the good news is that it ain't on film yet. We can all boycott
> >this
> >travesty and make 'em pull it. Lucas may not understand his fan base but he
> >CAN understand a "box office flop"!
> >
> >Who's with me?
> >
>
> While I have stated I don't really give a damn who makes cameo appearances in
> the backgrounds of movies, the idea of you turning episode 2 into a "box office
> flop" is really amusing.
yeah, but he's a representantive of piles of non-internet people who will
stay away from this movie. Because they went to PM and were bored.
> There are people who flat out -hated- Episode 1. A ton of them. Its still the
> top grossing Star wars movie as of yet.
How could that "ton of people" hate episode 1 if they hadn't gone to see
it? By that time, it's too late, George has alredy made his money.
The effect of that hate of PM won't be seen until this film.
critics were given two weeks to
> lambaste the film, and it still did all the business it did. Lucas could make
> it two hours of Jar jar square dancing with NSync and it would still make a
> billion dollars so long as it started with "A Long time ago, etc"
That's because no one believed it could be that bad. The Special Editions
had just been released, reminding everyone how good Star Wars could
be, and so everyone was primed to believe, never mind the reviews,
that it would be a good movie. It was an event. People couldn't
stay away from it, any more than they could turn off the TV's
footage of the Twin Towers.
> Don't like an idea, thats fine, youre entitled, but c'mon, do you really think
> a newsgroup of maybe 100 people -tops- would make any shred of difference even
> if we -all- agreed with you?
Do you think if you convince him not to have his boycott, that you will
save Star Wars, and George Lucas will make you his personal toenail
painter? I don't think he's trying to stop you from enjoying the
films. Aren't you strong enough to just go, and enjoy, the movie,
no matter what anyone else thinks? Why must you insist that people
be quiet? 'Mommy, they're making fun of my teddy!"
Galactic Boobies
"Cre8inator" <cre8i...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> I'm sorry, I thought this was a place where Star Wars fans hung out...not
> N'SYNC fans.
>
We are SW fans which is why we're not condemning the film or director
because of this bit of cashing in/family politics or whatever it is.
Unless you or Whinelan, or the other bandwagon dissenters are butt boning
Rick McCallum, chances are that you, like the rest of us, have not seen the
fucking film.
Therefore the reasonable thing to do, Star Wars fan or not, is to reserve
the condemnations and mob justice until that time. It is the film that
matters to us, after all.
That way if the film completely sucks, we can then call George a sell out
has been, pathetic whatever.
And if the film is dark and brilliant and makes up for a lot of the
weaknesses of PM, well we didn't sound like drooling crackpots the way you
do right now.
Now there's the logical answer for you. If you don't want to accept that, we
can flame war via email and I'll kick your ass in private so you won't be
too embarrassed.
Jade
--
my gift to you.
C'Pi
"Cre8inator" <cre8i...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20020104010217...@mb-fl.aol.com...
Petitions are a load of crap. If people don't stop whining and saying that
a petition has to be created to stop Lucas, I'm going to go out and get a
petition started to have the Backstreet Boys included in Star Wars also.
I'll bet I can get more signatures than you.
C'Pi
HppyButchr
>How could that "ton of people" hate episode 1 if they hadn't gone to see
>it? By that time, it's too late, George has alredy made his money.
>The effect of that hate of PM won't be seen until this film.
Because numbers of the magnitude Star wars raked in can only physically be
achieved through massive repeat business.
Do your homework Whinelan.
~Jeremy
The Happy Butcher
Daniel Olin Miller
> Petitions are a load of crap. If people don't stop whining and saying that
> a petition has to be created to stop Lucas, I'm going to go out and get a
> petition started to have the Backstreet Boys included in Star Wars also.
>
> I'll bet I can get more signatures than you.
Damn, that's *evil*.
Daniel O. Miller
Here in my car,
The image breaks down,
Will you visit me please,
If I open my door,
In cars...
Jostein Hakestad
cre8i...@aol.comnojunk wrote on 04.01.02 04:56:
I'm not.
--
Jostein H
Jostein Hakestad
cre8i...@aol.comnojunk wrote on 04.01.02 07:02:
> I'm sorry, I thought this was a place where Star Wars fans hung out...not
> N'SYNC fans.
Argh.
>
> Can a 100 people make a difference?
> Generally speaking...what country do you live in? Have you been keeping up on
> current events? 100 people can make a helluva difference.
Uhm?
>
> Will Episode 2 flop? Not a chance in hell.
Right you are.
>
> Will it suck anyway? Could be.
Nope.
--
Jostein H
Robert Whelan
No you aren't.
> I'll bet I can get more signatures than you.
You won't get one. Because you aren't going to bother. Because
you don't care.
Robert Whelan
Gee, and here I thought Star Wars was a big enough event to generate
massive one-time viewings. I guess you're right. Star Wars just
isn't well known enough to generate box-office out of affection
for the previous films. It HAD to be massive repeat viewings.
HppyButchr
>massive one-time viewings. I guess you're right. Star Wars just
>isn't well known enough to generate box-office out of affection
>for the previous films. It HAD to be massive repeat viewings.
If you did the slightest bit of reading or research into box office numbers,
then you would see that -no- Star Wars could -not- have made so much money on
single time views. Nor could Lord of the Rings or Titanic or Harry Potter or
the earlier Star Wars films. I'll take your assinine sarcasm as you admitting
that you may not actually know what you are talking about, and just don't have
the balls enough to admit it.
~Jeremy
The happy Butcher
C'Pi
"Robert Whelan" <rwh...@amanda.dorsai.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.21.020104...@amanda.dorsai.org...
That's it. What's the name of that website where a person can start a
petition? I'm starting one.
I think I'll also start one to get Mariah Carey inserted as a Twi'lek
dancer.
C'Pi
DarthGumby
conveyed:
First of all, theforce.net is not starwars.com.
Second, I'm not with you, sorry. Maybe if you were a
regular on the ng I'd see your opinion as something
more than trolling.
Third, I really think you need to find a good
time-consuming hobby, like those 3-D puzzles or
something.
DG
DarthGumby
conveyed:
<snip weirdness>
>That's it. What's the name of that website where a person can start a
>petition? I'm starting one.
http://www.petitiononline.com/
>I think I'll also start one to get Mariah Carey inserted as a Twi'lek
>dancer.
<Han>I love you.</Han>
>C'Pi
DG
Robert Whelan
All right, let's distinguish between repeat viewings because the
film was really great, and repeat veiwings because it was en event
and everyone was going. In spite of knowing the negative reviews
ahead of time, I got advanced tickets at a large-screen theatre
for Friday, the week it opened. But on Wednesday, I found that
tickets were available locally, and saw it early. I was disgusted,
and thought about redeeming my ticket before Friday, but I'd
arranged to go to the same viewing with my brother, and I
figured I'd give it another chance...maybe all that nonsense
on the net about "it get's better the more you see it" would
be true! So, there I was, not a big movie-goer, seeing a movie
I'd heard wasn't good, TWICE. My brother saw it three times,
with me, my sister, with some of his friends. There are a lot
of people who saw it more than once because friends would call
them up and say "wanna see it" at different times. People went
because everyone else was going. It was the biggest party in the
world, even if no one liked the host. Everyone was there. People
were there for the event, for their memories of Star Wars, and,
if posts on this group are any indication, because they loved
Star Wars so much, they were seeing it over and over
intent on overcoming their disappointment, determined to find things
in the film to love, which they couldn't find on first viewing.
And the film was bland, and inoffensive. It had no gross outs
that might revolt people and cause them to say "avoid that movie"
But it just wasn't good. The hype made it seem good, and people
had a hard time adjusting to the gap between the combination
of the hype, fan excitement, freindly crowd experience, seeing
it with friends, and the actual film's quality. But they did
experience a disappointing film.
Who knows... maybe the franchise may continue as a sort of
"rocky horror" type event, where people go to have fun waving
light sabers at eachother, shouting responses to the screen,
entertaining THEMSELVES at the movies, rather than expecting
to be blown away. People going for the other people. But it
won't be for the movieany longer.
HppyButchr
>
>All right, let's distinguish between repeat viewings because the
>film was really great, and repeat veiwings because it was en event
>and everyone was going.
Translating into "No, I can't admit I may have been wrong and am now going to
back track my way to some kind of safe ground"
Man you aren't worth the time it takes to type. welcome to my elsewise empty
filter.
~Jeremy
The happy Butcher
Zeefor
news:a15njj$o7s2h$1...@ID-111793.news.dfncis.de...
> I think I'll also start one to get Mariah Carey inserted as a Twi'lek
> dancer.
I always assumed she was a Klingon.
> C'Pi
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I Win Again.
Wes Hutchings
like Salacious Crumb after a weekend bender.
Self declarations of victory are so cool.
What's wrong, judge wouldn't accept your used underwear as a bribe?
wes
Rainbow Heron
>C'Pi <jas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:a15njj$o7s2h$1...@ID-111793.news.dfncis.de...
>
>> I think I'll also start one to get Mariah Carey inserted as a Twi'lek
>> dancer.
>
>I always assumed she was a Klingon.
Nope- that's just her dress.
-Rainbow Heron
(sig hopes RH's cousin didn't read that)
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Jostein Hakestad
DarthMyHe...@hotmail.com wrote on 05.01.02 04:37:
>
> First of all, theforce.net is not starwars.com.
>
> Second, I'm not with you, sorry. Maybe if you were a
> regular on the ng I'd see your opinion as something
> more than trolling.
>
> Third, I really think you need to find a good
> time-consuming hobby, like those 3-D puzzles or
> something.
>
Or collecting needles in heystacks.
--
Jostein H
Robert Whelan
> >> Man you aren't worth the time it takes to type. welcome to my elsewise empty
> >> filter.
> >
> > I Win Again.
>
> Self declarations of victory are so cool.
> What's wrong, judge wouldn't accept your used underwear as a bribe?
Troll someone else, Wes.
Wes Hutchings
Be a clueless prick somewhere else.
wes
Tucci
HppyButchr
>empty
>>> filter.
>>
>>I Win Again.
>
>Nope sorry- Tilson won.
>
>-Rainbow Heron
>(sig reminds that RH was at least on the winning side)
>
If winning means that there is yet another person on the planet who doesn't
want to acknowledge his sad lowly existence, then yes, he takes home the gold.
~Jeremy
The Happy Butcher
(and so does "that whelan guy")
Robert Whelan
No, the impossibility.
Wes Hutchings
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Tucci wrote:
Admission of your own stupidity noted.
Now make it even more ironic, deny it.
wes
Maul 672
movie can make those numbers is repeat viewings.. now, I will say that ONLY
reason I saw the movie that many times was the last 20 minutes. From the time
Palpy said "Wipe them out, all of them" to the end music..that was the only
good part in the movie for me.. but, I wanted it to be good, I wanted it to be
that magic movie that I remembered but the fact is, it wasn't. Lucas has lost
it. As far as this boy band..that is a shame.. and I agree, this movie will
bring in huge money..BUT I don't believe it will match PM or Episode III..
Lucas will make his money but he will lose respect as a film maker, more so
than he has already.
Jostein Hakestad
mau...@cs.com wrote on 06.01.02 09:45:
He still has my respect, so speak for yourself.
--
Jostein H
Robert Whelan
Where in his post did he say "Me and Jostein Hakstead"? He didn't.
Reread the post. "I" "I" "I". But still, you object, and act like
he was speaking for more than just himself. Could it be he actually
is speaking for you, because, in your heart of hearts, you find
yourself agreeing with him? That's the only explanation I can
come up with for your projecting your agreement onto his words,
and then claiming he's "speaking for you" when he was no such
thing.
HppyButchr
>BUT I don't believe it will match PM or Episode III..
>Lucas will make his money but he will lose respect as a film maker, more so
>than he has already.
>
Then just don't go see it. Don't spend days in a newsgroup declaring how you
aren't going to see, if you don't want to be a fan anymore as you said in your
other post, just don't go see it and move on with your life. I promise you, no
one here will know you were gone since this was your first post.
~Jeremy
The Happy Butcher
Robert Whelan
Look, you really have to stop flaming every new person whose opinion
you don't happen to like.
Tucci
>Look, you really have to stop flaming every new person whose opinion
>you don't happen to like.
Glass houses, Robert.
Stephen Barker
only a cameo, and they never last for longer than a few minutes. In
fact, the article Cre8inator linked to says, and I quote:
The guys will be seen for a fleeting moment in a "big scene with lots
of extras."
"Big scene with lots of extras." To me that says that you probably
won't even notice them unless you're actually LOOKING for them.
I am really failing to see why the whole N'Sync thing is such a crisis
to some people. Maybe it's just me. The only reason I ever pay
attention to WHO is in a movie is when I happen to recognize them from
something else. Other than that that person is only the character
they are playing. I don't see Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon Jinn. I see
only Qui-Gon Jinn. I don't see Samuel L. Jackson playing Mace Windu.
I see Mace Windu. To me it's not a matter of who's starring in the
movie, it's a matter of what's happening in the movie.
And can anyone really be surprised that someone currently popular is
using that fame as a chance to get into a Star Wars movie?
From the article:
"The roles materialized after the group members, who are all fans of
the sci-fi saga, asked the new film's producer, Rick McCallum, for bit
parts."
Is there anybody here who WOULDN'T do the exact same thing if they had
the chance that N'Sync did?
On an ending note. I'd like to point something out. In all the
commotion about bashing the decision to put N'Sync in the movie people
seem to ignore one key iota of information: they die. According to
what I know (which, admittedly, isn't much) N'Sync is only on screen
for a short time and then they die. I would think that seeing the boy
band get slaughtered by a battle droid or Sith Lord would be a dream
come true for any Star Wars lovin' N'Sync hater. Just imagine it.
N'SYNC JEDI: Bye Bye Byaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh! (gets sliced up into
pieces)
Of course all this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
ObeeKris
> only a cameo, and they never last for longer than a few minutes. In
> fact, the article Cre8inator linked to says, and I quote:
>
> The guys will be seen for a fleeting moment in a "big scene with lots
> of extras."
>
> "Big scene with lots of extras." To me that says that you probably
> won't even notice them unless you're actually LOOKING for them.
>
> I am really failing to see why the whole N'Sync thing is such a crisis
> to some people. Maybe it's just me. The only reason I ever pay
> attention to WHO is in a movie is when I happen to recognize them from
> something else. Other than that that person is only the character
> they are playing. I don't see Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon Jinn. I see
> only Qui-Gon Jinn. I don't see Samuel L. Jackson playing Mace Windu.
> I see Mace Windu. To me it's not a matter of who's starring in the
> movie, it's a matter of what's happening in the movie.
>
> And can anyone really be surprised that someone currently popular is
> using that fame as a chance to get into a Star Wars movie?
It's how Sam Jackson got in. Mentioned in an interview that he'd love
to be in a Star Wars movie, even if it was only a stormtrooper. And
lo and behold, we have ass-kicking Jedi Master Mace Windu. (His is
the lightsaber that says "Bad Motherfucker" on it.)
> From the article:
> "The roles materialized after the group members, who are all fans of
> the sci-fi saga, asked the new film's producer, Rick McCallum, for bit
> parts."
>
> Is there anybody here who WOULDN'T do the exact same thing if they had
> the chance that N'Sync did?
>
> On an ending note. I'd like to point something out. In all the
> commotion about bashing the decision to put N'Sync in the movie people
> seem to ignore one key iota of information: they die. According to
> what I know (which, admittedly, isn't much) N'Sync is only on screen
> for a short time and then they die. I would think that seeing the boy
> band get slaughtered by a battle droid or Sith Lord would be a dream
> come true for any Star Wars lovin' N'Sync hater. Just imagine it.
>
> N'SYNC JEDI: Bye Bye Byaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh! (gets sliced up into
> pieces)
>
> Of course all this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
*clapclapclapclap* Bravo!! Well said. I totally agree with you on
this.
ObeeKris
Robert Whelan
> > Is there anybody here who WOULDN'T do the exact same thing if they had
> > the chance that N'Sync did?
> >
> > On an ending note. I'd like to point something out. In all the
> > commotion about bashing the decision to put N'Sync in the movie people
> > seem to ignore one key iota of information: they die. According to
> > what I know (which, admittedly, isn't much) N'Sync is only on screen
> > for a short time and then they die. I would think that seeing the boy
> > band get slaughtered by a battle droid or Sith Lord would be a dream
> > come true for any Star Wars lovin' N'Sync hater. Just imagine it.
> >
> > N'SYNC JEDI: Bye Bye Byaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh! (gets sliced up into
> > pieces)
> >
> > Of course all this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>
> *clapclapclapclap* Bravo!! Well said. I totally agree with you on
> this.
So....it seems it's okay for people to repetitively post, over and
over again, how great it will be to see N'Sync die in the movie,
but if it's people expressing dismay at N'Sync being in the movie,
that's just "annoying" to see over and over again, right?
Real double standards here.
Stephen Barker
> over again, how great it will be to see N'Sync die in the movie,
> but if it's people expressing dismay at N'Sync being in the movie,
> that's just "annoying" to see over and over again, right?
>
> Real double standards here.
I'm not sure if that's towards me or ObeeKris but if it was me I want
to say that the point I was trying to make was that the whole
N'Sync/AOTC thing wasn't worth making a big deal over, for either side
of the spectrum. However, most of the feelings seem to go against it,
so that's where most of my comments were directed at.
Personally, other than as a potential You Don't Know Jack question, I
don't think the whole N'Sync thing is very noteworthy. That's why I
was trying to say it's not worth people getting so worked up over it,
whether it's good work-up or bad. Like the title of the thread where
I post my earlier rant on its own: So a boy band is making an