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Kentaro P Maeda  
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 More options May 21 2002, 12:20 am
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From: Kentaro P Maeda <kent...@hawaii.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:03:44 -1000
Local: Tues, May 21 2002 12:03 am
Subject: Re: Rapid-fire AOTC points
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Darth Gumby wrote:
> >If anyone's gracious enough to respond to any of the following,
> >but not every single point, PLEASE don't paste the entire thing, or
> >else...

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> >You'll hear Qui-Gon calling out your name and going "NOOooo...!!"

> >10. In both prequels now, we never see a first-person POV of a
> >hyperspace jump. What gives? Has it become too cliche to use now?
> >(wouldn't that be ironic)

> I think they (them effects people) probably don't want to outdo the original
> jump to hyperspace coolness.

Well, they could just stick with the same effect from the original.
Assuming we watched it in chrono order, it wouldn't be until Episode
IV that we get to be blown away by the effect. Weird.

Also I was thinking that if it were solely intended to be viewed in
chrono order, Lucas wouldn't be putting in these tongue-in-cheek
ironic jokes ("You'll be the death of me"). Also, in Ep IV, we sort of
get an exposition about Jedi and the Force from Obi-Wan, whereas in Ep
it seem we wouldn't have any idea about them.

> >24. Is there a somber, reflective "Obi-Wan/Force theme-Binary Sunset"
> >moment in I and II? In ESB I guess it was the build-up to the final
> >shot, in ROTJ it was Vader's funeral.

> In TPM the part where Anakin is walking away from Shmi is pretty darn somber.
> That scene still blows me away.

I guess, and there's the time-lapse sunset on Coruscant, after Qui-Gon
and Obi-Wan talk about Anakin on the balcony.

But as I've now been informed, AOTC's bit is obviously the "shadow on
the hut." Even though it hammers you on the head, at first I didn't
take notice because I was seeing it too literally (the back of the
helmet just being the braid). Doh.

> >26. Doesn't Anakin's bionic hand look, well, creepy? As for the
> >wedding seemingly happening so soon, after all they'd been through in
> >the battle, I can sort of see why they do it.

> I think he made it himself. :)

I guess he had his indulgent use of the Force to help out his one
remaining hand.

> >27. End credits... I could be wrong, but weren't Hamill, Fisher, and
> >Ford's names in the credits always in the same line? Episode I and
> >II's main three actors are listed separately both times. Is it an ego
> >thing?

> That always made me go hmm during TPM.

I just liked how in the originals it gave a sense that it was an
ensemble. And the chemistry the three leads had there is what we all
seem to miss in the prequels. Funny how that works.

> >Okay, this is more a Spider-Man thing to sign off with, but how is the
> >idea of Peter calling Mary Jane an "angel" as a kid any different than
> >Anakin doing the same with Padme, which got lambasted?

> Teen/twenty-something dorks in movies aren't looked down upon by fans as much as
> kids?

Yeah, but the thing is that Peter was probably around TPM Anakin's age
when he said it (like I said, it's only talked about in the movie). If
teen/twenty-something Peter actually said it, that'd be even worse! :P

And hey, isn't Jar Jar composing himself then addressing Padme as
"M'lady" just precious? I also like the power trip he exudes when he
has the Senate floor. Look at his arms when he "gives immediately
emergency POWERS." And the way that one group of senators gives the
"No" signal. And how utterly rehearsed Amedda and Palpy sound when
they hint that Jar Jar make the big proposal. And Jar Jar's "you
really like me!" look when the Senate applauds him. Whatta gullible
Gungan he is.

> >On that note, I'm wishing Lucas had allowed
> >himself to have Anakin roll his eyes and sarcastically/ironically
> >mutter "yippee." at some point in AOTC.

> Well, you said you don't like spoilers so I won't mention what one of James Earl
> Jones' Ep III lines is going to be.

Great, that spoils me along with this exchange i accidentally came
across:

"I dub thee... Darth--"
"Darth Wizard!"
"Uh, no, I dub thee Da--"
"Darth Laser Sword!"
"NO! I dub thee Darth... Vader!"
"But I kinda like Darth Wiz--"
"Oh,wouldyoujustshutupaboutthatwholething!"
"...Yes, my master."

Ken


 
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