Stargate: Universe prediction
Daniel Prince
Most or all of the passengers will be uninjured.
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John Meacham
> The ship is deliberately flying into the sun to recharge itself.
> Most or all of the passengers will be uninjured.
Indeed. I was thinking the same thing. Actually, I thought that is
what it was doing when it grazed the gas giant, picking up volatiles
like hydrogen for fusing. But now that they are going to the sun, and
the fact they didn't bring up the obvious 'recharge' idea when the
ship has seemed to know what it was doing so far made me think that
actually is what is going to happen. I hope some more interesting
stuff happens than that though, I don't like it when it is easier to
predict a show based on the writers psychology over the characters and
science. It makes it hard to suspend disbelief when the characters
have to behave unrealistically to build up a cliffhanger. at the hour
mark, or keep up tension throughout an episode. I will be disapointed
if it nevers occurs to anyone the ship might know what it is doing
until the end of the episode.
John
alie...@gmail.com
Agree on all idiot-plot-related points. However...
Is the ship actually going to graze the star for a second slingshot
to put it back on course before going FTL?
Mark L. Fergerson
John Meacham
Hmm.. possibly. In the SG-physics of the other series it seemed that
ships were able to drop out of FTL pretty much anywhere or take off in
any direction, seeing as how they tend to stop at rest in relation to
whatever their target is, their initial momentum doesn't seem to
matter. Destiny has already dropped out of, and reentered FTL so we
know it can theoretically do that without being close to a star. But
if the Destiny's drive is truly dead in the water, some crazy
maneuvering with the help of the star doesn't seem that out of the
question. The only issue is, where does it go? It may be slingshotting
to get on a trajectory to another habitable star system, but then we
have 10 seasons of STL travel ahead of us. Not that television ever
underestimates the distance between stars. So yeah, I think refueling,
recharging, or jumpstarting something and an excuse to have a tension
filled episode perhaps with a hint of mutiny mixed in is the reason
for the sun-dive.
John
Phillip Thorne
>> The ship is deliberately flying into the sun to recharge itself.
It may have done this before, repeatedly. We don't know what its
power source is, but nobody's mentioned a ZPM. Rush *did* mention
that the ship predates the "Ancient Gene" technology.
This does re-open the bucket of squirming conjecture that is "Sequence
of Ancient History." Does the _Destiny_ predate _Atlantis_? Did its
mission predate the Stargate system, given that they all have nine
chevrons? This "new" version of the Gate might actually be the first
one, followed by the Milky Way and Pegasus models.
And they haven't uncovered a "why" for its multigalactic mission. My
guess is that this era's Ancients were still paranoid about the Ori in
their original galaxy, and wanted an escape route.
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, John Meacham <john.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Indeed. I was thinking the same thing. Actually, I thought that is
>what it was doing when it grazed the gas giant, picking up volatiles
>like hydrogen for fusing. But now that they are going to the sun, and
>the fact they didn't bring up the obvious 'recharge' idea
Well, it *is* a cliffhanger. Perhaps Rush, Eli and the female
astrophysicist (the one who mentioned tide-locked worlds in the narrow
lifezone of star) will realize this as soon as the next episode
starts.
>when the ship has seemed to know what it was doing so far
One wonders why the _Destiny_ doesn't do a better job of communicating
its intentions to its passengers, given that it *did* notice that it
*has* passengers now. OTOH, its designers probably never anticipated
a need for an "idiot mode."
>I will be disapointed if it nevers occurs to anyone the ship might
>know what it is doing until the end of the episode.
They've been aboard the ship for, what, a few days now? And they're
still running on adrenaline and panic?
I will agree that the pacing of the first four hours could've been
better. The premiere needed a story beat to establish another goal
byond survival -- if not an adversary, then a specific treasure (maybe
a Gate factory). OTOH, the advertising tagline is "Their only mission
is survival."
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DJensen
> On Oct 17, Daniel Prince <neutri...@ca.rr.com> posited:
>>> The ship is deliberately flying into the sun to recharge itself.
>
> It may have done this before, repeatedly. We don't know what its
> power source is, but nobody's mentioned a ZPM. Rush *did* mention
> that the ship predates the "Ancient Gene" technology.
>
> This does re-open the bucket of squirming conjecture that is "Sequence
> of Ancient History." Does the _Destiny_ predate _Atlantis_? Did its
> mission predate the Stargate system, given that they all have nine
> chevrons? This "new" version of the Gate might actually be the first
> one, followed by the Milky Way and Pegasus models.
As I understand it, Destiny predates Pegasus/Atlantis (which the flight
path video suggests was seeded by one of the gate seeder ships which
Destiny is following), but came after the Milky Way gates were built.
> And they haven't uncovered a "why" for its multigalactic mission. My
> guess is that this era's Ancients were still paranoid about the Ori in
> their original galaxy, and wanted an escape route.
Rush stated in the pilot that the point of the Destiny was to follow the
(or a?) gate seeder ship. The Ancients would gate into Destiny and then
explore (perhaps also populating) the galaxies as the ship progressed.
That phase of the plan never happened though, as the Ancients ascended
instead.
> One wonders why the _Destiny_ doesn't do a better job of communicating
> its intentions to its passengers, given that it *did* notice that it
> *has* passengers now. OTOH, its designers probably never anticipated
> a need for an "idiot mode."
Or it's all "idiot mode". The passengers are locked out of the core
systems, figuring out subspace comms just last night.
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DJensen