the GOP and country music

[Philip Chee]

[[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
music.]]

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-to_b_2087774.html>


I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?

Phil

--
Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my>, <phili...@gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.

[Dan Goodman]

Philip Chee wrote:

> [[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
> weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
> punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
> music.]]
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-t
> o_b_2087774.html>
>
>
> I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with
> politics?

There's some correlation between liking country music and liking
conservatism. Just as there is between liking folk music and being
liberal (or farther left.)

There's no intrinsic reason for it. Any more than there is for
neo-paganism to have once been associated with rightwing political
views, and then with leftwing political views.


--
Dan Goodman
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote in
news:63aqft....@news.alt.net:

> [[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war
> mongering weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while
> advocating for capital punishment, starting new wars, destroying
> personal rights, and country music.]]
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-ne
> eds-to_b_2087774.html>
>
>
> I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with
> politics?
>

It falls in to the same category of "stuff I hate so it must be
evil" that retards whine about.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Dorothy J Heydt]

In article <63aqft....@news.alt.net>,

Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote:
>[[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
>weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
>punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
>music.]]
>
><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-to_b_2087774.html>

Um ... that's a great ine, but your link links to another HPost
article about how Army officers are getting pissed because their
requests to resign are being refused.

Want to post the right link, if you can find it? I cut-and-pasted
what you posted and it led, as I said, to an essay about problems
with the Army that does not contain the bit you quoted.

>
>I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?

Well, it's not noted for its intellectual content.

Filksinger Jane Robinson once described a year she spent in a
place where all the radios played country music. This resulted
in a filk that began,

"Darlin', you have up and went
Away with some big-city gent,
And now I'm cryin' tears enough for two;
That's the fundamental reason
I'm here snifflin' and sneezin,'
Sittin' here pickin' my nose and thinkin' of you."

And it got worse.

So while there is SOME connection between social conservatives
who are feeling- rather than thinking-types and country music, I
think, mind you I say I *think*, that the last line was intended
to be funny.

And it is, rather.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

[Kevrob]

On Nov 7, 12:59 pm, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> In article <63aqft.2pk.1...@news.alt.net>,

> Philip Chee  <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote:
>
> >[[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
> >weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
> >punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
> >music.]]
>

> ><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-t...>

>
> Um ... that's a great ine, but your link links to another HPost
> article about how Army officers are getting pissed because their
> requests to resign are being refused.
>
> Want to post the right link, if you can find it?  I cut-and-pasted
> what you posted and it led, as I said, to an essay about problems
> with the Army that does not contain the bit you quoted.
>
>
>
> >I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?
>
> Well, it's not noted for its intellectual content.
>
> Filksinger Jane Robinson once described a year she spent in a
> place where all the radios played country music.  This resulted
> in a filk that began,
>
> "Darlin', you have up and went
> Away with some big-city gent,
> And now I'm cryin' tears enough for two;
> That's the fundamental reason
> I'm here snifflin' and sneezin,'
> Sittin' here pickin' my nose and thinkin' of you."
>
> And it got worse.
>
> So while there is SOME connection between social conservatives
> who are feeling- rather than thinking-types and country music, I
> think, mind you I say I *think*, that the last line was intended
> to be funny.
>
> And it is, rather.
>
> --
>

I'd be careful about associating all "country music" with right-
statists. There's plenty of C&W that left-statists know and love -
Willie Nelson, and a whole passel of alt-country types, not limited
to, but inclusive of the Austin, TX crowd.

Unfortunately, people's musical mindsets are often as tight and
limited as their political ones. Bob Dylan's new tune, "Duquesne
Whistle" - is that folk, blues or country?

A lot of what's sold as "folk" is indistinguisgable from real country
music, while much of what Nashville peddles is just pop or rock with
an accent.

"There are two kinds of music. Good music, and the other kind.” -
Ellington

Kevin

[Alan Woodford]

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

I'm reminded of a comment on a live track on one of my Hayseed Dixie
CDs:-

(after discussing how they came to set up a bluegrass AC/DC tribute
band)
"How many people do you know with only one kind of music in their
record collection - no one that I'd want to drink beer with!"

There is good and bad in pretty much every genre, and there is
certainly stuff I can't stand that I can see the merits of.

And stuff I really like that has no redeeming features whatsoever :-)

Alan Woodford

[Kevrob]

Hayseed Dixie??!! Guffaw!

> "How many people do you know with only one kind of music in their
> record collection - no one that I'd want to drink beer with!"
>
> There is good and bad in pretty much every genre, and there is
> certainly stuff I can't stand that I can see the merits of.
>
> And stuff I really like that has no redeeming features whatsoever :-)
>
>

More in the bluegrass/rock conversion vein:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/pickin-on-pink-floyd-a-bluegrass-tribute-mw0000015114

I have heard Bach done by a bluegrass group - not totally unlike the
dynamics of a string quartet.

Actually, some bluegrass groups ARE string quartets, quintets or
sextets:

Banjo, guitar, bass, fiddle, dobro, mandolin: pick the ones you feel
you need.

Let's not conflate bluegrass or "old time" American music with
commercial, Nashville-based country, however.

Kevin

[Alan Woodford]

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:42:43 -0800 (PST), Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com>

I'll have to give that a try :-)

>I have heard Bach done by a bluegrass group - not totally unlike the
>dynamics of a string quartet.
>
>Actually, some bluegrass groups ARE string quartets, quintets or
>sextets:
>
>Banjo, guitar, bass, fiddle, dobro, mandolin: pick the ones you feel
>you need.
>
>Let's not conflate bluegrass or "old time" American music with
>commercial, Nashville-based country, however.
>

Understood...

Alan Woodford

[Dan Goodman]

Kevrob wrote:

> I'd be careful about associating all "country music" with right-
> statists. There's plenty of C&W that left-statists know and love -
> Willie Nelson, and a whole passel of alt-country types, not limited
> to, but inclusive of the Austin, TX crowd.

Sure. And there are rightwing folkies.

But country music _tends_ to be associated with right-of-center views.

[Kevrob]

On Nov 7, 3:16 pm, "Dan Goodman" <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Kevrob wrote:
> > I'd be careful about associating all "country music" with right-
> > statists.  There's plenty of C&W that left-statists know and love -
> > Willie Nelson, and a whole passel of alt-country types, not limited
> > to, but inclusive of the Austin, TX crowd.
>
> Sure.  And there are rightwing folkies.
>
> But country music _tends_ to be associated with right-of-center views.
>
> --
>

Some of the "we love Jesus" crowd in C&W isn't particularly
conservative. Johnny Cash became "The Man In Black" as a protest
against war and in favor of the poor, frex.

Kevin

[David Dyer-Bennet]

Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> writes:

> [[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
> weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
> punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
> music.]]
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-to_b_2087774.html>
>
>
> I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?

Associated with the red-neck set, who are in turn associated with the
lower-class Republicans.
--
Googleproofaddress(account:dd-b provider:dd-b domain:net)
Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
Dragaera: http://dragaera.info

[Keith F. Lynch]

Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> There's some correlation between liking country music and liking
> conservatism. Just as there is between liking folk music and being
> liberal (or farther left.)

What politics do people who like classical music have?
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

[ppint. at pplay]

- hi; in article, <ylfk625h...@dd-b.net>,
dd...@dd-b.net "David Dyer-Bennet" glotted:

> Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> writes:
>>
>>I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?
>
>Associated with the red-neck set, who are in turn associated with the lower-
>class Republicans.

- see what happened to the career of the dixie chicks after
they stood up to say they were ashamed of the then president
and his actions, when he happened to be a republican...

- love, ppint.

[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
--
"The English country gentleman galloping after a fox -
the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable."
_A Woman of No Importance_ - oscar wilde, 1893

[Will in New Haven]

When "Okie from Muskogee" came out everyone who knew Merle Haggard
found it hilarious. He was stoned more than Willie was in the day. And
his economic-political views were and are far to the left of center.

--
Will in New Haven

[Kevrob]

On Nov 8, 9:36 am, Will in New Haven <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com>

Yahbut...

Merle was writing a song from a point of view of characters he knew.
It was tremendously popular, and expressed the views of a great deal
of the Middle American "Silent Majority." In that way, it isn't any
different than any other memorable song about a particular person,
place or time. Murder ballads aren't usually written by murderers,
and Johnny Horton didn't march with Genl Jackson.

Kevin

P.S.: good to see you back on the group. Hope you made it through
Sandy & this @#$%& snow OK.

[Kevrob]

On Nov 8, 10:06 am, Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Yahbut...
>
> Merle was writing a song from a point of view of characters he knew.
> It was tremendously popular, and expressed the views of a great deal
> of the Middle American "Silent Majority."  In that way, it isn't any
> different than any other memorable song about a particular person,
> place or time.  Murder ballads aren't usually written by murderers,
> and Johnny Horton didn't march with Genl Jackson.
>
> Kevin
>

Add'l:

Nothing I wrote above should be interpreted to mean that MH might not
have been pandering to the record-buyers and DJs of 1969. He did
continue to use it as a "theme song" for his shows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okie_from_Muskogee_(song)

Kevin

[David Loewe, Jr.]

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:15:02, Philip Chee <phi...@aleytys.pc.my> wrote:

>[[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
>weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
>punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
>music.]]
>
><http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-to_b_2087774.html>
>
>I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with politics?

Cavnar ought to ask Ted Nugent, Kid Rock and Dave Mustaine.
--
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his deserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all."
- James Graham, Marquis of Montrose

[David Friedman]

At a tangent to his, related to the original quote--which was a nice
example of how people can engage in the same sort of behavior,
stereotyping and prejudice, that they disapprove of in others, as long
as it fits their prejudices-- ...

Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals by
who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
majority was. The coasts, except for the SE, are blue, the center is
red. Which reminded me of the occasional references here to "flyover
country" as the way in which the coastal elites dismiss the rest of the
country.

Which suggests a couple of sf possibilities, as well as some real world
concerns about an internally divided polity.

One sf possibility is an alternate history in which the U.S. broke up,
either due to the civil war ending differently or at some later point,
producing four or five or more different countries. What would they be
like? Would the current blue states be more or less Scandinavian welfare
states, which I've seen it argued is what Obama really wants, or
something else? The center libertarian, as parts suggests, theocracies,
as a lot of the other side imagines, or merely U.S. exceptionalism in a
somewhat higher degree?

The other possibility starts from now, but explores the possibilities of
a future where the center and the coasts become increasingly estranged.

--
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
_Salamander_: http://tinyurl.com/6957y7e
_How to Milk an Almond,..._ http://tinyurl.com/63xg8gx

[Kevrob]

On Nov 7, 8:16 pm, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > There's some correlation between liking country music and liking
> > conservatism.  Just as there is between liking folk music and being
> > liberal (or farther left.)
>
> What politics do people who like classical music have?
> --
>

Not sure, but the campaign songs are a bitch to sing: most folks don't
have the range.

Kevin

[Philip Chee]

On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:35:09 -0800, David Friedman wrote:
> At a tangent to his, related to the original quote--which was a nice
> example of how people can engage in the same sort of behavior,
> stereotyping and prejudice, that they disapprove of in others, as long
> as it fits their prejudices-- ...
>
> Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
> looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals by
> who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
> majority was. The coasts, except for the SE, are blue, the center is
> red. Which reminded me of the occasional references here to "flyover
> country" as the way in which the coastal elites dismiss the rest of the
> country.
>
> Which suggests a couple of sf possibilities, as well as some real world
> concerns about an internally divided polity.
>
> One sf possibility is an alternate history in which the U.S. broke up,
> either due to the civil war ending differently or at some later point,
> producing four or five or more different countries. What would they be
> like?

It would probably look like Megacity One in Judge Dredd.

> Would the current blue states be more or less Scandinavian welfare
> states, which I've seen it argued is what Obama really wants, or
> something else? The center libertarian, as parts suggests, theocracies,
> as a lot of the other side imagines, or merely U.S. exceptionalism in a
> somewhat higher degree?
>
> The other possibility starts from now, but explores the possibilities of
> a future where the center and the coasts become increasingly estranged.

[Kevrob]

Anybody who isn't up on country and is sympathetic to the opinion
Philip pointed us to should check out this song:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Never_Even_Called_Me_by_My_Name

Kevin

[Keith F. Lynch]

David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
> Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
> looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals
> by who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
> majority was.

I noticed that the map was identical to that of 2008, with the
possible exceptions of Florida and Alaska, whose vote totals weren't
in yet.

I also noticed that the red states were coterminous. (Again, with the
possible exceptions of AK and FL.)

> The other possibility starts from now, but explores the
> possibilities of a future where the center and the coasts become
> increasingly estranged.

L. Neil Smith has suggested an east-west division. He says the border
between Canada and the US will rotate 90 degrees, leaving a statist
nation in the east half of the continent, and a libertarian nation in
the west half.

[Dan Goodman]

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

> David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
> > Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
> > looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals
> > by who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
> > majority was.
>
> I noticed that the map was identical to that of 2008, with the
> possible exceptions of Florida and Alaska, whose vote totals weren't
> in yet.
>
> I also noticed that the red states were coterminous. (Again, with the
> possible exceptions of AK and FL.)
>
> > The other possibility starts from now, but explores the
> > possibilities of a future where the center and the coasts become
> > increasingly estranged.
>
> L. Neil Smith has suggested an east-west division. He says the border
> between Canada and the US will rotate 90 degrees, leaving a statist
> nation in the east half of the continent, and a libertarian nation in
> the west half.

I think he has some misconceptions about California, Oregon, and
Washington State.

And perhaps a bit of confusion between libertarianism and conservatism.

[David V. Loewe, Jr]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 01:28:48, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net>
wrote:

>David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:

>> Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
>> looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals
>> by who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
>> majority was.
>
>I noticed that the map was identical to that of 2008, with the
>possible exceptions of Florida and Alaska, whose vote totals weren't
>in yet.

No. The changes were Indiana and North Carolina - both of which flipped
from Obama to the GOP candidate.
--
"Choose your friends wisely."
Dr. Jerry Pournelle

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

In article <ddfr-FE83D1.0...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,

David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
>Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
>looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals by
>who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
>majority was.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4419138669951&set=pb.1033415151.-2207520000.1352437345&type=3&theater


--
D. Glenn Arthur Jr./The Human Vibrator, dgl...@panix.com
Due to hand/wrist problems my newsreading time varies so I may miss followups.
"Being a _man_ means knowing that one has a choice not to act like a 'man'."
http://www.dglenn.org/ http://dglenn.dreamwidth.org

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

In article <ddfr-FE83D1.0...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:

>Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
>looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals by
>who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
>majority was. The coasts, except for the SE, are blue, the center is
>red. Which reminded me of the occasional references here to "flyover
>country" as the way in which the coastal elites dismiss the rest of the
>country.

Better than my last URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/
Especially http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymaprb512.png
and http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymappurple512.png
though the catogram versions make it clearer how evenly we're divided
sheer-numbers-wise.

The first of those county-by-county maps makes the coast-vs.-middle
difference even _more_ striking than the state-by-state version.
But the purple cartogram
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countycartpurple512.png
makes it harder to imagine a split into contiguous red and blue
countries working out. It looks like somebody poured red paint into
a bucket of blue paint and splashed a little with a spoon but didn't
really try to stir it. (Either that, or blue paint dripping into a
bucket of red with the drop all falling in different spots...)

I remembered seeing maps like this from either 2004 or 2008 and
figured somebody would've done 'em for 2012... Yay Google.

[David Dyer-Bennet]

dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.) writes:

> In article <ddfr-FE83D1.0...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu>,
> David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
>>Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
>>looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals by
>>who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
>>majority was. The coasts, except for the SE, are blue, the center is
>>red. Which reminded me of the occasional references here to "flyover
>>country" as the way in which the coastal elites dismiss the rest of the
>>country.
>
> Better than my last URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/
> Especially http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymaprb512.png
> and http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countymappurple512.png
> though the catogram versions make it clearer how evenly we're divided
> sheer-numbers-wise.
>
> The first of those county-by-county maps makes the coast-vs.-middle
> difference even _more_ striking than the state-by-state version.
> But the purple cartogram
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countycartpurple512.png
> makes it harder to imagine a split into contiguous red and blue
> countries working out. It looks like somebody poured red paint into
> a bucket of blue paint and splashed a little with a spoon but didn't
> really try to stir it. (Either that, or blue paint dripping into a
> bucket of red with the drop all falling in different spots...)
>

It maps to population density mostly; city vs. country (with exurbs
apparently being country).

[Mark Zenier]

In article <xn0i5ckd...@news.iphouse.com>,

Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>
>> David Friedman <dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
>> > Looking at the election map, I was struck by how sharp the division
>> > looks--exaggerated by the fact that the map is showing state totals
>> > by who had a majority, not county in a way reflecting how large the
>> > majority was.
>>
>> I noticed that the map was identical to that of 2008, with the
>> possible exceptions of Florida and Alaska, whose vote totals weren't
>> in yet.
>>
>> I also noticed that the red states were coterminous. (Again, with the
>> possible exceptions of AK and FL.)
>>
>> > The other possibility starts from now, but explores the
>> > possibilities of a future where the center and the coasts become
>> > increasingly estranged.
>>
>> L. Neil Smith has suggested an east-west division. He says the border
>> between Canada and the US will rotate 90 degrees, leaving a statist
>> nation in the east half of the continent, and a libertarian nation in
>> the west half.
>
>I think he has some misconceptions about California, Oregon, and
>Washington State.

Yea, in Washington, the big L Libertarians ran a full slate of candidates
for state offices a few years back, and only got 8-12 percent. About the
same as the American Heritage(?) (right wing Christian) candidate for
Governor did in an election around the same time period. (Now that
we've got a party independent "top two in the primary" general election,
they don't have a chance. The method that California copied for Prop 14).

>And perhaps a bit of confusion between libertarianism and conservatism.

Maybe Smith has got too many friends among those extreme whack jobs in
Northern Idaho/Montana/Eastern Washington.

Turns out one of the more successful libertarian takeovers is in New
Hampshire with the Free State-ers", according to a radio essay I heard
recently about un-civil politics in their statehouse. (NPR or CBC).
Apparently there have been sufficient numbers of people move there with
the purpose of bending the local politics in their favor that they've
actually gained some power.

Mark Zenier mze...@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

[Keith F. Lynch]

D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <dgl...@panix.com> wrote:
> But the purple cartogram
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/countycartpurple512.png
> makes it harder to imagine a split into contiguous red and blue
> countries working out. It looks like somebody poured red paint into
> a bucket of blue paint and splashed a little with a spoon but didn't
> really try to stir it. (Either that, or blue paint dripping into a
> bucket of red with the drop all falling in different spots...)

Did it look anything like maps of central Europe in the 18th century?

[Thomas Womack]

In article <k7f164$fbv$6...@reader1.panix.com>,

Keith F. Lynch <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

>Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> There's some correlation between liking country music and liking
>> conservatism. Just as there is between liking folk music and being
>> liberal (or farther left.)
>
>What politics do people who like classical music have?

Ones that keep the streets safe for people cycling around after the
post-concert party with the price of the Shire (or at least of a
decent used car) in a bassoon-case on their back.

Tom

[Thomas Womack]

In article <xn0i5asg...@news.iphouse.com>,
Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>Philip Chee wrote:
>
>> [[The base now consists of Bible thumping, gun-toting, war mongering
>> weirdos who squawk about being pro-life while advocating for capital
>> punishment, starting new wars, destroying personal rights, and country
>> music.]]
>>
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/lessons-the-gop-needs-t

>> o_b_2087774.html>

>>
>>
>> I don't get the last part. What has country music got to do with
>> politics?
>

>There's some correlation between liking country music and liking
>conservatism. Just as there is between liking folk music and being
>liberal (or farther left.)

I wonder how much that's a matter of what you call it; Pete Seeger and
Johnny Cash are clearly doing much the same kind of thing with fairly
similar instruments, the one on the right plays country music and the
one of the left plays folk (and the one in the middle got drafted)

Tom

[Scott Dorsey]

Thomas Womack <two...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>What politics do people who like classical music have?
>
>Ones that keep the streets safe for people cycling around after the
>post-concert party with the price of the Shire (or at least of a
>decent used car) in a bassoon-case on their back.

"Hey, man, what is that thing in the case? Can I sell it to buy dope with?"

"It's a pipe that makes farting sounds."

"Oh, well, that's okay anyway, I'll go rob someone else then."
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Kevrob]

On Nov 11, 6:07 am, Thomas Womack <twom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:
> In article <xn0i5asgh1i54w...@news.iphouse.com>,

> Tom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Cash and Seeger would have been happy to share a stage, especially
during the Viet Nam war. John is gone, while Infamous Pinko Stooge
Seeger plinks on. He did, finally, allow as to how he might have been
wrong about Stalin, a few years ago.

Kevin

[Kevrob]

On Nov 11, 9:13 am, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

> Thomas Womack  <twom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> >>What politics do people who like classical music have?
>
> >Ones that keep the streets safe for people cycling around after the
> >post-concert party with the price of the Shire (or at least of a
> >decent used car) in a bassoon-case on their back.
>
> "Hey, man, what is that thing in the case?  Can I sell it to buy dope with?"
>
> "It's a pipe that makes farting sounds."
>
> "Oh, well, that's okay anyway, I'll go rob someone else then."
> --

Woodwinds may be safe from poheads - though the temptaton to make a
bong out of one might be hard to resist.

I have heard of incidents of brass being burgled to be sold to
recyclers, if not on eBay. It's part of a greater trend of crooks
stripping any metal they think they can sell from buildings and even
public memorials. High school bands have to increase security where
they store their stuff.

Kevin

[Keith F. Lynch]

Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> I have heard of incidents of brass being burgled to be sold to
> recyclers, if not on eBay. It's part of a greater trend of crooks
> stripping any metal they think they can sell from buildings and even
> public memorials. High school bands have to increase security where
> they store their stuff.

Fortunately, many such thieves eventually attempt to steal live
high-voltage wiring, and thereby win the Darwin award.

[garabik-ne...@kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk]

Keith F. Lynch <k...@keithlynch.net> wrote:
>
> Fortunately, many such thieves eventually attempt to steal live
> high-voltage wiring, and thereby win the Darwin award.

Or to cut away steel pillars supporting factory roof. Happened few years
ago in Czech Republic, with several Darwin award candidates.

ObSF: Justus, by Martin Moudrý. The captured hero does exactly this -
cuts away structural support elements in the Area 51 secret underground
base, relying on his superhuman abilities to escape, while everyone else
is busy saving their lives.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
| Radovan Garabík http://kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk/~garabik/ |
| __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus.
Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!

[David Harmon]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) in rec.arts.sf.fandom,
Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote,

>I have heard of incidents of brass being burgled to be sold to
>recyclers, if not on eBay.

To Mexican "banda" musicians.
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=tuba+theft