A painting by John Howe
Jasin Zujovic
Does anyone know the name of this painting? And who are all these people
supposed to be?
If I'm not mistaken, there's the Green Knight to the back, the warrior in
the golden armour is Lugh, the old man with ravens is Odin...
But who are the woman with the unicorn and the knight? (And the unicorn,
if he's more than just a Unicorn). And the fairy in the lower left corner
(barely visible, but she's there)?
It seems like some sort of British mythological hall of fame.
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Jasin Zujovic
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Vlatko Juric-Kokic
wrote:
>Does anyone know the name of this painting? And who are all these people
>supposed to be?
http://www.fantasiaonline.com/howe/howe010.html
Titled "Celtic Myths".
And somebody with much more knowledge of Celtic mythology should
answer. Graydon?
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Niall McAuley
> The people, well, there's an Arthurian Knight whom they likely mean as
> Arthur, what with the crowned helm and all;
There's a pen-sized dragon on there, too.
> there's a guy with a
> curly-topped staff who is almost certainly Merlin,
Yes.
> the guy with the
> spear is likely Fion McCummail
Well, he has reddish hair and swirly patterns on his shield,
so you're probably right, but it looks more Greek to me: Ares.
> the fellow with the ax I have no idea, though if I had to
> guess I'd say Bran Borru,
Rather famously on the wrong end of the ax.
> and the pale fellow is may be a generic Sidhe or Lugh of the Long
> Hands.
The pale person has its hand on a Unicorn's muzzle. I thought
Unicorns mostly go for maidens? If I had to guess a Celt, I'd
guess Oisín.
> It seems a very white-light-and-bunnies painting; there may not be
> intended specific identifications.
I think it's just as easy to see Aragorn, Boromir, Gandalf, Shadowfax,
Gimli and Legolas on the Cliffs of Moher, 600 ft. above the
Atlantic: [google google]
http://www.dalys-house.com/images/cliffs.jpg
No, I don't know what the Unicorn and victorian fairies are doing there
either. Hang on, it's Amber! Eric, Benedict, oh do the rest yourselves.
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Mary Kay Kare
> I think it's just as easy to see Aragorn, Boromir, Gandalf, Shadowfax,
> Gimli and Legolas on the Cliffs of Moher, 600 ft. above the
> Atlantic: [google google]
>
> http://www.dalys-house.com/images/cliffs.jpg
>
Don't have to, they're right there on my desktop.
MKK--been there twice need to go again
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Jasin Zujovic
> >>Does anyone know the name of this painting? And who are all these people
> >>supposed to be?
> >
> > http://www.fantasiaonline.com/howe/howe010.html
> >
> > Titled "Celtic Myths".
> >
> > And somebody with much more knowledge of Celtic mythology should
> > answer. Graydon?
>
> The people, well, there's an Arthurian Knight whom they likely mean as
> Arthur, what with the crowned helm and all;
I can't believe this didn't cross my mind. Oh, well.
> there's a guy with a
> curly-topped staff who is almost certainly Merlin,
Hm... what with the title being "*Celtic* Myths", you're probably right.
I first thought it was Odin, because of the ravens. I don't remember
Merlin being associated with ravens. Is he?
> the guy with the
> spear is likely Fion McCummail
Why him?
I thought it was Lugh because ISTR that Lugh was supposed to have golden
armour. I can't remember from where I got that, though.
> the
> fellow with the ax I have no idea, though if I had to guess I'd say Bran
> Borru,
Well, he looks exactly like the Green Knight in Howe's "Gawain and the
Green Knight".
> and the pale fellow is may be a generic Sidhe or Lugh of the Long
> Hands.
I thought that was a woman?
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Jasin Zujovic
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Jasin Zujovic
> > Hm... what with the title being "*Celtic* Myths", you're probably
> > right. I first thought it was Odin, because of the ravens. I don't
> > remember Merlin being associated with ravens. Is he?
>
> Not particularly, but I wouldn't trust the iconography of this
> particular artist whatsoever.
Why? Do you dislike Howe for some particular reason?
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Jasin Zujovic
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Jasin Zujovic
> Someone who produces artwork about Celtic Myth that's all bright and
> cute and noble, and has neither darkness, nor blood, nor fire in it, has
> missed some wide portion of the essential character of the thing
> depicted.
Well... true. So it's not Howe in general, just this particular painting?
Although, come to think of it, some of his Tolkien related paintings have
darkness and fire aplenty (say "The Dark Tower", "The Siege of Gondor" if
I got the titles correct), so it would seem that he's not inherently
incapable of gloominess.
Seems it's just another case of "oh, how pretty and noble and tall those
ancient Celts were, and let's forget about the wicker men and
lime-hardened brains for the moment".
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Jasin Zujovic
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Trinker
Lime-hardened brains?
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Dave Weingart
>> Seems it's just another case of "oh, how pretty and noble and tall those
>> ancient Celts were, and let's forget about the wicker men and
>> lime-hardened brains for the moment".
>
>
>Lime-hardened brains?
Preferably with a thick sweet and spicy sauce.
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Andrew Plotkin
> Jasin Zujovic wrote:
>> Graydon wrote:
>> >
>> > Someone who produces artwork about Celtic Myth that's all bright and
>> > cute and noble, and has neither darkness, nor blood, nor fire in it, has
>> > missed some wide portion of the essential character of the thing
>> > depicted.
>>
>> Well... true. So it's not Howe in general, just this particular painting?
> Not familiar with his work.
http://anduin.eldar.org/artgallery/tolkien/jhowe/annotate.html
(someone's using eldar.org? Oy.)
Howe was one of the chief art consultants Peter Jackson used.
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Niall McAuley
> > > http://www.fantasiaonline.com/howe/howe010.html
and now, this:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0002247275.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Niall McAuley
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:35:55 +0100, Niall McAuley wrote:
> >There's a pen-sized dragon on there, too.
> Oooh, put me down for a pen-sized dragon!
You could name him Uther.
Rob Wynne
>> Oooh, put me down for a pen-sized dragon!
>You could name him Uther.
Only if you bought two.
"This is my pen-dragon. And this is my uther pen-dragon....."
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