Rob Evans
Vera
Subject: Rob Evans
Date: Monday, 8 January 2007 7:56 PM
On 7.1.'07 Rob lobbed in:
>And if you weren't such a brainless complacent
>arsehole, your pedestrian scribbling would be
>merely ignored, instead of butchered.
Let us analyze Rob's findings. . .
(1) "Complacent": How can he make such an assumption
not knowing the real me nor my habits?
For his information, I'm rarely satisfied with anything
I write and have changed poems even after they had
been published which is not considered ethical and
poets have been ticked off for doing the same.
I've already revised and changed the title of my last
posted poem, "May I have"
Is that complacency?
(2) "arsehole": What serious offence have I committed
to deserve this tag? Have I robbed him of money or
his reputation -- threatened him in some way?
I hadn't even known that he was around until he
addressed me (angrily) advising me to take note
of Gamble's criticism and to follow it!
If that wasn't an insult to any thinking person!
(3) What does he mean by "pedestrian scribblings"?
That I scribble poetry while walking the streets or
that I write with my feet?
(4) Who, but he, has butchered my verse in the last couple
of years?
As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
"pedestrian scribblings".
Unfortunately, that is not the trolls' agenda.
Vera
Yougurt Sugir
"Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message news:45a2acb9$0$22034$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
> are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
> because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
> "pedestrian scribblings".
Everyone is entitled.
I think you are a brain-dead moron that could
never produce poetry.
I'm entitled.
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Vera
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> "Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> > As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
> > are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
> > because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
> > "pedestrian scribblings".
>
> Everyone is entitled.
>
> I think you are a brain-dead moron that could
> never produce poetry.
>
> I'm entitled.
Of course you are, Tom!
You are a professor of English who has decided to come out
of the closet.
Dennis M. Hammes
> From: "Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au>
> Subject: Rob Evans
> Date: Monday, 8 January 2007 7:56 PM
>
> On 7.1.'07 Rob lobbed in:
>
>
>>And if you weren't such a brainless complacent
>>arsehole, your pedestrian scribbling would be
>>merely ignored, instead of butchered.
>
>
> Let us analyze Rob's findings. . .
>
> (1) "Complacent": How can he make such an assumption
> not knowing the real me nor my habits?
> For his information, I'm rarely satisfied with anything
> I write and have changed poems even after they had
> been published which is not considered ethical and
> poets have been ticked off for doing the same.
>
> I've already revised and changed the title of my last
> posted poem, "May I have"
>
> Is that complacency?
It could be construed as incompetence, but it's more likely that you
simply have no idea what the f.k you were talking about when you
"wrote" the piece and no idea what the editor thought he saw when he
read it.
>
> (2) "arsehole": What serious offence have I committed
> to deserve this tag? Have I robbed him of money or
> his reputation -- threatened him in some way?
> I hadn't even known that he was around until he
> addressed me (angrily) advising me to take note
> of Gamble's criticism and to follow it!
>
> If that wasn't an insult to any thinking person!
"arsehole": something that blows shit such as that above.
>
> (3) What does he mean by "pedestrian scribblings"?
> That I scribble poetry while walking the streets or
> that I write with my feet?
It were a more tolerable explanation if you did.
>
> (4) Who, but he, has butchered my verse in the last couple
> of years?
>
You just confessed to butchering them yourself.
Even after they were "published."
>
> As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
> are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
> because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
> "pedestrian scribblings".
>
> Unfortunately, that is not the trolls' agenda.
>
The trolls' agenda is to improve the gene pool by eating the stupid
and bashing the ones even we can't stomach.
You may say we make a hobbit of it.
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Yougurt Sugir
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>> "Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> > As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
>> > are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
>> > because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
>> > "pedestrian scribblings".
>>
>> Everyone is entitled.
>>
>> I think you are a brain-dead moron that could
>> never produce poetry.
>>
>> I'm entitled.
>
> Of course you are, Tom!
I see no "Tom". Doesn't change the fact
that you are poetry-challenged.
No biggie... Simple facts.
>
> You are a professor of English who has decided to come out
> of the closet.
No, I'm a person with a brain.
Not a great brain, but better than most.
If I thought you could understand - I might explain it more.
Vera
"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
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> Vera wrote:
>
> > From: "Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au>
> > Subject: Rob Evans
> > Date: Monday, 8 January 2007 7:56 PM
> >
> > On 7.1.'07 Rob lobbed in:
> >
> >
> >>And if you weren't such a brainless complacent
> >>arsehole, your pedestrian scribbling would be
> >>merely ignored, instead of butchered.
> >
> >
> > Let us analyze Rob's findings. . .
> >
> > (1) "Complacent": How can he make such an assumption
> > not knowing the real me nor my habits?
> > For his information, I'm rarely satisfied with anything
> > I write and have changed poems even after they had
> > been published which is not considered ethical and
> > poets have been ticked off for doing the same.
> >
> > I've already revised and changed the title of my last
> > posted poem, "May I have"
> >
> > Is that complacency?
>
>
> It could be construed as incompetence, but it's more likely that you
> simply have no idea what the f.k you were talking about when you
> "wrote" the piece and no idea what the editor thought he saw when he
> read it.
You posters jump to conclusions like moths into flames!
I'm not into fiction -- I write from either my experience or
something that has been related to me.
Years back an editor, rejecting a roughly-written piece, advised
me: 'Poetry grows -sometimes it takes years to perfect a piece.'
I didn't believe her at the time but since, have been convinced.
The story line doesn't have to change to improve the
presentation -- and it's the presentation that counts.
There was (maybe still is) a "Severyan". I haven't even changed
his name and, I did recall the circumstances while listening
to an Eric Coates' suite. I think it was the "London Suite"
The posted poem, "May I have", was written in the
first 5 days of '07. I've already revised it, but won't submit
it to any editor!
Vera
Vera
Vera
ggamble
wrote:
>
>I'm not into fiction -- I write from either my experience or
>something that has been related to me.
>Vera
>Vera
Vera
> > >
> > > Is that complacency?
> >
> >
> > It could be construed as incompetence, but it's more likely that you
> > simply have no idea what the f.k you were talking about when you
> > "wrote" the piece and no idea what the editor thought he saw when he
> > read it.
>
> You posters jump to conclusions like moths into flames!
>
> I'm not into fiction -- I write from either my experience or
> something that has been related to me.
>
> Years back an editor, rejecting a roughly-written piece, advised
> me: 'Poetry grows -sometimes it takes years to perfect a piece.'
>
> I didn't believe her at the time but since, have been convinced.
>
> The story line doesn't have to change to improve the
> presentation -- and it's the presentation that counts.
>
> There was (maybe still is) a "Severyan". I haven't even changed
> his name and, I did recall the circumstances while listening
> to an Eric Coates' suite. I think it was the "London Suite"
>
> The posted poem, "May I have", was written in the
> first 5 days of '07. I've already revised it, but won't submit
> it to any editor!
>
> Vera
P.S. The name "Severyan", roughly translated, means "Son
of the North". I don't believe that it is a saint's name (maybe
that's one change that the Old Believers resisted).
The dance venue was the Sydney Trocadero where
American servicemen introduced the jitterbug.
Vera
Dennis M. Hammes
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>>"Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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>>
>>>As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
>>>are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
>>>because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
>>>"pedestrian scribblings".
>>
>>Everyone is entitled.
>>
>>I think you are a brain-dead moron that could
>>never produce poetry.
>>
>>I'm entitled.
>
>
> Of course you are, Tom!
>
> You are a professor of English who has decided to come out
> of the closet.
>
Everybody knows /that/. His critiques of Dylan Thomas and Alex Pope
are legendary.
Dennis M. Hammes
Yeah.
jesus
fuck.
Rob
<45a2acb9$0$22034$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Vera
<vera...@iinet.net.au> writes
> From: "Vera" <vera...@iinet.net.au>
>Subject: Rob Evans
>Date: Monday, 8 January 2007 7:56 PM
>
>On 7.1.'07 Rob lobbed in:
>
>>And if you weren't such a brainless complacent
>>arsehole, your pedestrian scribbling would be
>>merely ignored, instead of butchered.
>
>Let us analyze Rob's findings.
Given the lack of critical faculties you exhibit on Usenet, I suspect
that "analyse" will prove to be optimistic.
> . .
>
>(1) "Complacent": How can he make such an assumption
> not knowing the real me nor my habits?
I'm aware that I only know the Usenet you. I have often ststed that no
real person could be that stupid.
> For his information, I'm rarely satisfied with anything
> I write and have changed poems even after they had
> been published which is not considered ethical
Wrong
> and
> poets have been ticked off for doing the same.
>
> I've already revised and changed the title of my last
> posted poem, "May I have"
>
> Is that complacency?
Complacent here covers smug, pompous and self satisfied. You comment on
all kihds of literature while cheerfully admitting that you can't be
arsed to actually READ some of it. You also believe that anything
published by some obscure Australian mag becomes good poetry
(particularly if it's over 30 years old.
>
> (2) "arsehole": What serious offence have I committed
> to deserve this tag? Have I robbed him of money
No, a word for that would be "thief".
> or
> his reputation
No, a word for that would be "liar".
> -- threatened him in some way?
No, a word for that would be "thug".
I used "arsehole" in the vernacular, i.e. a tedious person who is a
waste of space. Who know that it also meant a woman who couldn't
stumble over the right word if her life depended on it.
> I hadn't even known that he was around until he
> addressed me (angrily) advising me to take note
> of Gamble's criticism and to follow it!
>
> If that wasn't an insult to any thinking person!
It therefore should have given YOU no offence at all.
>
>(3) What does he mean by "pedestrian scribblings"?
> That I scribble poetry while walking the streets or
> that I write with my feet?
It means you are no poet but simply a literal-minded dimwit, once again
too lazy to consult a dictionary to discover the wide range of
secondary meanings attributed to "pedestrian", i.e. plodding,
unimaginative, etc.
>
>(4) Who, but he, has butchered my verse in the last couple
> of years?
Most people here who have bothered to comment. And we've butchered your
scribblings, i.e. your critical commentaries, your banal country-diary
ramblings and your doggerel. No one has accused you of verse.
>
>
>As I've said before, few poems, whether published or not,
>are beyond criticism. I'm always interested in comments
No you're not. You're interested in approbation. And you're not going
to get that on a poetry newsgroup.
>because another's viewpoint can be of help for future
>"pedestrian scribblings".
>
>Unfortunately, that is not the trolls' agenda.
>
The "trolls", as you call us, have been here, posting poems and
critiques for well over ten years. We were here before idiots like you,
poor Tom, and the Duck washed up.
Sorry, dimwit, but YOU are the troll round here.
Rob
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