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The Opportunity Rover is Amidst a Giant Living .....Reef

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jonathan

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Feb 17, 2004, 10:18:26 PM2/17/04
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Dennis M. Hammes

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Feb 18, 2004, 5:54:09 AM2/18/04
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jonathan wrote:
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> It's true!
>
Well, fer godssake, don't tell Canada.
They'll want the whole thing.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The sucking noises made by Babies is not law,
no matter how many of them *agree* that it is.
http://scrawlmark.org

jonathan

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Feb 20, 2004, 5:20:27 AM2/20/04
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"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:40334898...@arvig.net...

> jonathan wrote:
> >
> > It's true!
> >
> Well, fer godssake, don't tell Canada.
> They'll want the whole thing.


That second picture just screams...the web of life.

You can't deny this it true. Opportunity is sitting in the
middle of the Everglades. There's underground water
there. Mars is covered in what appear to be common
sand dunes. But the Spirit pics are making it clear these
dunes are reefs formed underwater and by living organisms.

I'll present a large number of pics this weekend documenting
just how widespread these ancient reefs are. And one can
then believe that Opportunity has stumbled upon an area
where they are reemerging. After all, Nasa is now claiming
Mars is just exiting an ice age.

This is getting very exciting, trust me~

It may just be that life emerged on Mars before
it did on earth, since Mars cooled sooner. And
that life on both planets formed in much the same
way. This has implications that are mind boggling.

How would the creationists of the world react to such
news?

Nasa is getting quieter by the day, they don't want
to talk about it right now. They were releasing spectrometer
data last week, it just stopped. They know the implications
of this mission are world changing.

Jonathan

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Dennis M. Hammes

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Feb 20, 2004, 7:19:01 PM2/20/04
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jonathan wrote:
>
> "Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
> news:40334898...@arvig.net...
> > jonathan wrote:
> > >
> > > It's true!
> > >
> > Well, fer godssake, don't tell Canada.
> > They'll want the whole thing.
>
> That second picture just screams...the web of life.
>
> You can't deny this it true. Opportunity is sitting in the
> middle of the Everglades. There's underground water
> there. Mars is covered in what appear to be common
> sand dunes. But the Spirit pics are making it clear these
> dunes are reefs formed underwater and by living organisms.
>
> I'll present a large number of pics this weekend documenting
> just how widespread these ancient reefs are. And one can
> then believe that Opportunity has stumbled upon an area
> where they are reemerging. After all, Nasa is now claiming
> Mars is just exiting an ice age.
>
> This is getting very exciting, trust me~
>
> It may just be that life emerged on Mars before
> it did on earth, since Mars cooled sooner. And
> that life on both planets formed in much the same
> way. This has implications that are mind boggling.

How? Why? The question and data were old hat before I was born.


>
> How would the creationists of the world react to such
> news?

Boggled.


>
> Nasa is getting quieter by the day, they don't want
> to talk about it right now. They were releasing spectrometer
> data last week, it just stopped. They know the implications
> of this mission are world changing.

Data-chanaging, theory-changing. Not even curriculum-changing,
where the curriculum is in speculation.
Only a psychopath /can/ think that the world has changed because
/he/ finally saw it.
I, e.g., by contrast, never thot Barsoom was Mars.

Art

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Feb 23, 2004, 10:34:51 AM2/23/04
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"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message news:<4036A84A...@arvig.net>...
Nor Dad's Tropical Venus.

Chancellor, I agree that NASA will not find the quicker route to
India. Still, it's interesting to see them /try/.

"Argh. Care killed the cat, me lad."
---L.J.S.

> > > -------(m+
> > > ~/:o)_|
> > > The sucking noises made by Babies is not law,
> > > no matter how many of them *agree* that it is.
> > > http://scrawlmark.org

Speaking of sucking noises, how about the guy who already legally OWNS
the Moon and Mars, et al, and has been lining his pockets handsomely
by selling off plots to the rubes?

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040202.html

While I admire a good scam artist (hey, I follow politics), I must
admit a natural aversion to Claim Jumpers. Especially when they jump a
claim 48 million miles away.

Sure, if we're stupid enough to spend $Billions and $Billions and
$Billions on an infrastructure to support our road networks and the
automobile, I'm sure we'd be stupid enough to build an infrastructure
that would eventually make a highway to the planets. A 48 million mile
high, highway, as it were.

But /I/ would think he who gets there with a sword first, is he who
owns it. Let Mr. Hope find a way of enforcing his property "rights"
once someone jumps HIS claim.

---
Art

Dennis M. Hammes

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Feb 23, 2004, 11:39:42 AM2/23/04
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Well, first you gots to /get to/ your little piece of Mexican Desert
Swamp, then you gots to /sit on it/ withouts drownding (incl in your
own accumulation of Montezuma), and then, and /then/, and THEN --
you gets to Mine The Gold.
If, however, yous gots any /brains/, you'll take now a piece of
paper, and also your computer, and print now a calendar, and ask
people which time blocks they wants to buys.
This afternoon would be a good time to start, eh?


>
> http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040202.html
>
> While I admire a good scam artist (hey, I follow politics), I must
> admit a natural aversion to Claim Jumpers. Especially when they jump a
> claim 48 million miles away.

"Claim Jumpers"? A claim-jumper must be physically present, and can
target only a previously-/marked/ claim.


>
> Sure, if we're stupid enough to spend $Billions and $Billions and
> $Billions on an infrastructure to support our road networks and the
> automobile, I'm sure we'd be stupid enough to build an infrastructure
> that would eventually make a highway to the planets. A 48 million mile
> high, highway, as it were.

Actually, "Dr." Pournelle has already "designed" a geosynch ribbon
elevator.
When I asked him what happened when his hyperribbon went around
the corner down here, he went all to pieces.


>
> But /I/ would think he who gets there with a sword first, is he who
> owns it. Let Mr. Hope find a way of enforcing his property "rights"
> once someone jumps HIS claim.

"HIS claim"? A "claim" requires, as you sorta note, a physical
marker.
What you have on Luna and Mars is in point of fact ol' Chrystal
Colbubba planting the Flag Of His Country Fly, and Claiming All The
Land Drained By This Here River The Pope SeD.
http://scrawlmark.org/g/columb2c.jpg
Note the requisite elements: sword, claim flag about to be driven
into the belly of the Earth (or his left foot), kneeling to the Pope
(or his first attempts to drive the flagpole).
A physical marker claiming another physical marker that physically
(the water) touched the claim marker.
Which looked just a tad silly on Luna, which is why they're gonna
find a fuken watershed on Mars if they hasta get out and /piss/ one.
>
> ---
> Art

In Iraq, by contrast, we physically stuck the flagpole in Saddam's
ass.
That it stuck oil at the bottom of the spider hole is a most
serendipitous accident of the discovery of New Worlds that we had
/no/ fuken idea we'd find when we got there, but you know how boldly
going where no man has gone before is.
Why, you might discover green tits under them jezballahs or fall
in a pool of trillium.
Then some cringing dwarf with bad teeth and big ears will mark it
up to a dollar two ninety-eight so he can mark it down to eight
ninety-five just for /you/, shickl.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
It takes a Baby 28 hours to turn food into shit.
His Mommy can do it in ten minutes.
http://scrawlmark.org

Art

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Feb 24, 2004, 4:35:30 PM2/24/04
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"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message news:<403A3123...@arvig.net>...

Well, that's /his/ idear.

I found this brochure floating around on the 'net. It evidently
accompanies a letter telling the recipient (35-70yo head of
households) that they have won an ALL EXPENSES PAID TRIP TO THE MOON!
However, it turns out that these "expenses" only include fuel and
lodging. You have to make your own arrangements for obtaining a
Saturn V.

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/12HoleSandTrp.jpg


> >
> > http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040202.html
> >
> > While I admire a good scam artist (hey, I follow politics), I must
> > admit a natural aversion to Claim Jumpers. Especially when they jump a
> > claim 48 million miles away.
>
> "Claim Jumpers"? A claim-jumper must be physically present, and can
> target only a previously-/marked/ claim.

Pre-emptive Claim Jumpers, then. Like sitting at the "Club" in 17th
Century London and farting out noises that you "own" Virginia.

> >
> > Sure, if we're stupid enough to spend $Billions and $Billions and
> > $Billions on an infrastructure to support our road networks and the
> > automobile, I'm sure we'd be stupid enough to build an infrastructure
> > that would eventually make a highway to the planets. A 48 million mile
> > high, highway, as it were.
>
> Actually, "Dr." Pournelle has already "designed" a geosynch ribbon
> elevator.
> When I asked him what happened when his hyperribbon went around
> the corner down here, he went all to pieces.
> >
> > But /I/ would think he who gets there with a sword first, is he who
> > owns it. Let Mr. Hope find a way of enforcing his property "rights"
> > once someone jumps HIS claim.
>
> "HIS claim"? A "claim" requires, as you sorta note, a physical
> marker.
> What you have on Luna and Mars is in point of fact ol' Chrystal
> Colbubba planting the Flag Of His Country Fly, and Claiming All The
> Land Drained By This Here River The Pope SeD.
> http://scrawlmark.org/g/columb2c.jpg
> Note the requisite elements: sword, claim flag about to be driven
> into the belly of the Earth (or his left foot), kneeling to the Pope
> (or his first attempts to drive the flagpole).

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/OrigChris1.jpg

According to the original painting from which this stamp was engraved,
it appears the man stage right of Chris is holding up the Holy Hand
Grenade. The man kneeling stage left was stabbed not only in the foot,
but also the chest. The Priest, as always, stands behind the leader
1000 percent.

Note the Naked Savages hiding in the bushes stage right.

Just before they posed for the painting, the explorers had had a
short conversation with the Amerinds:

Amerind Chief: "Welcome my White Brother. Our legends told us that you
would come across the great waters some day to bring us wise councils
and to assist ‘The People.'"

Chris: "That's fine. Now, where do you keep your gold?"

Amerind Chief: "We have no gold, O Wise White Brother."

Lieutenant: "Aha! But chhhwhat of d' Seven Cites of Gol'? Ju know, Las
Vagas, Los Angeles, Reno…"

Amerind Chief: "Truly, we have no gold, but we do have this corn."

Lieutenant: "Good! Juan, Elian, Muchachos—Chhwe can makes th'
Tequilas!!!!"

Soldiers (in unison): "Yeah!!!"

Thinking the Spanish Marines and their Italian leader were out of
their ever lovin' minds, the Amerinds hide in the bushes.

In the painting, Chris is contemplating whether or not to lob the Holy
Hand Grenade at them. He thinks better of it and just takes some of
them captive--thinking that he'd get a jump on the lucrative slave
trade to come.

(apologies to Fire Sign Theater)

So, I suppose that in 2020, should the US take your prerequisite list
to heart, the PR photo will appear something like this:

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/NewChris1.jpg

Although, given the appetite of the American Populace for Government
Charities and Bread and Circuses, the American Moon Project will most
likely die a floundering, slow death.

In which case, I suppose the PR shot will more likely be this:

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/NewChris2.jpg

> A physical marker claiming another physical marker that physically
> (the water) touched the claim marker.
> Which looked just a tad silly on Luna, which is why they're gonna
> find a fuken watershed on Mars if they hasta get out and /piss/ one.
> >
> > ---
> > Art
>
> In Iraq, by contrast, we physically stuck the flagpole in Saddam's
> ass.
> That it stuck oil at the bottom of the spider hole is a most
> serendipitous accident of the discovery of New Worlds that we had
> /no/ fuken idea we'd find when we got there, but you know how boldly
> going where no man has gone before is.

Yes, well, speaking of that, looking closely at Columbus's portrait,
it seems to have been discovered he is giving the little known "Scull
and Bones" high sign, which translate as "Die Young in Poverty."

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/ChrisPrtrt.jpg

> Why, you might discover green tits under them jezballahs or fall
> in a pool of trillium.
> Then some cringing dwarf with bad teeth and big ears will mark it
> up to a dollar two ninety-eight so he can mark it down to eight
> ninety-five just for /you/, shickl.

This of course, reminds me of the prettied-up version of Columbus'
famous statue. It seems Chris was much like The Shrub at heart. This
is the one we are familiar with, but it seems it was changed to a more
PC version before the unveiling:

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/after.jpg

Originally, he had posed this way, thinking of what the rest of the
world would, soon enough, come to think of his newly discovered
lands--Isabella made the artist change it later:

http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/before.jpg

A message to the rest of the world I. for one, can certainly get
behind. To bad they prettied it up.

---
Art

Art

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Feb 25, 2004, 12:31:12 AM2/25/04
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Well, I just checked the thread and see where the hot links won't
work. It may or may not be worth your effort to paste the url into
your browser.

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Art

Dennis M. Hammes

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Art wrote:
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> "Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message news:<403A3123...@arvig.net>...
> > Art wrote:
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>
> http://www.euromirror.envy.nu/before.jpg
>
> A message to the rest of the world I. for one, can certainly get
> behind. To bad they prettied it up.
>
> ---
> Art

The famous Crazy-Horse Pose, of course.

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