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Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 3:09:47 AM12/21/03
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Karma Bombs

The document falls apart,
nothing left to say.
Dreams fall apart,
not so easy to face.
When the one I love
is gone to stay.
carefully try to walk the line,
then the whole thing falls apart,
feeling wounded and lonesome,
feel it straight inside my heart.

I have been exiled,
from the main place
where in this town I had a forum,
darkness, despair and la de da,
it's a swirling raging storm.

I woke up this morning,
looked at the grounds around the shed,
the trees with vines that don't let much sun in.
They told me it was okay for a man to cry,
still feels strange.
it's obvious he slaps you around some,
I thought of you in pain.

Look out, Bebe,
Karma's coming down,
it's got you now,
threefold inside you.
Karma Bombs,
they fry and flow, it lasts for generations,
responsibility.

Peace, please,
for the common good,
you look so good I want to eat you.
Witty,
amusing eye candy,
smudge the sage,
blackberry lunch,
sweet magnolia and honeysuckle.

I will personally
mail the curses
to anyone who mistreats you.
Little storm,
torrents,
it rained,
we ponder the negro nude painting.

Your prime lips,
trap of lust,
tropic,
look out little peace,
Karma's coming.
It's got you now,
threefold inside you.

Look out, Bebe,
Karma's coming down,
it's got you now,
threefold inside you.
Karma Bombs,
they fry and flow, it lasts for generations,
responsibility.

Karma Bombs,
rat tap on your head,
foam washes mermaids to shore.

-Will Dockery. (c)2002

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Michael Cook

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Dec 21, 2003, 4:54:14 AM12/21/03
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"The document falls apart,
nothing left to say."

What "document"?

"Dreams fall apart,
not so easy to face."

Try plaster.

"When the one I love
is gone to stay."

Where?

"carefully try to walk the line,
then the whole thing falls apart,"

>Drivel snip<

Good lord, what a lofty load of horse shit!
Where have all the poets gone?
mdc


Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 9:34:31 AM12/21/03
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"Michael Cook" <cook36...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Where have all the poets gone?" I dunno, Cook... about the only folks still
here are folks like you: jeering non-poets.
Will

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Michael Cook

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Dec 21, 2003, 9:55:04 AM12/21/03
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"Will Dockery" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message
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Jeering non-poet?
Not what you're looking for is it; you want the cheering non-poet
Come down to reality for a moment, let's have us a chat.
Did you know that the drugs you take alter your brain chemistry?
Yep, the neurotransmitters sort of short out add to that alcohol which is
a poison to the body, and you get, well you get you.
You have no idea why it is people 'pick' on you. do ya?
Why it is they slander you and mock your poetry, no idea?
Maybe your self performed lobotomy has something to with your
lack of perception? Well, hit the bong again, pop open another cold one
and celebrate err, um, Sunday!
mdc


Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:19:04 AM12/21/03
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"Michael Cook" <cook36...@ameritech.net> wrote

> Jeering non-poet?
> Not what you're looking for is it; you want the cheering non-poet
> Come down to reality for a moment, let's have us a chat.
> Did you know that the drugs you take alter your brain chemistry?
> Yep, the neurotransmitters sort of short out add to that alcohol which is
> a poison to the body, and you get, well you get you.
> You have no idea why it is people 'pick' on you. do ya?
> Why it is they slander you and mock your poetry, no idea?
> Maybe your self performed lobotomy has something to with your
> lack of perception? Well, hit the bong again, pop open another cold one
> and celebrate err, um, Sunday!
> mdc

That might be a good plan, after breakfast.
Will

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Jethro's Giant Brain

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:27:39 AM12/21/03
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"Michael Cook" <cook36...@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<bs3qtt$8pt7m$1...@ID-206016.news.uni-berlin.de>...

Will is a poet. You're not, Mikey. You're just a sick old faggot that
trolls poetry newsgroups.

http://chucklysaght.envy.nu/MyDailyRant.html

Jethro's Giant Brain

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:28:43 AM12/21/03
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"Will Dockery" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message news:<3fe559cc$1...@news2.knology.net>...

I assume these are lyrics to a song, and the title, "Karma Bombs" is great.

Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:31:39 AM12/21/03
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"Jethro's Giant Brain" <JethrosG...@doctor.com> wrote in message
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Has Cook ever even written and posted a poem here, or is he like JRS, Ross,
et al... jeering non poets?

Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:42:52 AM12/21/03
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"Jethro's Giant Brain" <JethrosG...@doctor.com> wrote

> > Karma Bombs

> I assume these are lyrics to a song, and the title, "Karma Bombs" is
great.

Yes, these are for an as-yet unrecorded song... tried it out on the stage a
few times, and it goes over well. Probably obviously, there's a Plastic Ono
Band feel to it, with some crashing guitar riffs amid tin can drums and
rubberband bass runs.

Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 12:38:09 PM12/21/03
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Yikes! Unfortunately, this is way too close to the way I feel these days.
Marriage gone to hell and all, still living together with future wife #2
andall.... Sorry, I don't have the strength to comment on it all....
Lillian

Yes, I understand that place in time very well, countless times over. My
thought/suggestion? Write! Poetry, songs, scream it out a bit--- find the
poetry readings/open mics in your area, and let it out... back in 1995,
during the big "crash and burn" which led to me being a full time 24/7 poet,
the open mic/poetry readings and the people I met there, and continue to
meet, literally saved my life. I can't praise the curing effects of regular
time on stage high enough! There just ain't nothing better... no sex, no
drug, can match the high of performing.
Will

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I can't belive I'm alive!
But without you it doesn't seem right!
Oh!
Where are you tonight?" -Bob Dylan, 1978.

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Peter J Ross

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On 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant Brain wrote:

> Will is a poet.

While not quite on the same level as "I'm going to New York for
Christmas" and "janet santana is a real person", this nevertheless
ranks high on your list of laughable lies, chucknozzle. After all, if
you really thought Will Dorkery was a poet, you'd have stolen his
poems by now, wouldn't you?

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Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 4:32:26 PM12/21/03
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"Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:09:47 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> <irony...@knology.net> wrote:
>
> >Karma Bombs
> >
> >The document falls apart,
>
> Okay, so this poem is about a document. Fair enough.

Divorce papers or somesuch, or perhaps a poem written on a napkin that
melted in the rain, like that guy's cake in McArthur Park.

> >nothing left to say.
>
> A document so important that its disintegration leaves
> us with nothing to say. Fair enough.

The document with its either foul courtlike, or sappy courtlylike, words.
Good riddance to it, and nothing left, or wanted to say of the troubling
contents.

> >Dreams fall apart,
>
> Have we changed the subject or are these dreams falling
> apart as a consequence of the document doing so?

Yes.

If the
> former, which dreams?

Love, happiness, some good pussy, all the makings of true, great poetry.

Since telling you to avoid such pale
> abstractions would be a waste of time, I'll render this tip:
>
> Don't use plurals.

Okay, fair enough... I will try.

> Think of it as a first, tiny step towards achieving
> clarity and tangibility in your work.

Thanks, Colin, I'll do my best.

> >not so easy to face.
>

> Why not?

The next line describes why pretty well, I think.

The reader isn't even sure what dreams one
> would be facing.

I think most readers who live here, on this mortal plane, will understand
what its like to have "dreams fall apart", and why they're "not so easy to
face", Colin. You may need to get out more... or not.

How can the reader be expected to know
> why this would not be "easy to face"?

I'd wager most readers would get the idea. Really.

> >When the one I love
> >is gone to stay.
>

> This is not a sentence.

You got me there. It should have been the second part of the line before
it, right. Easy to fix that. I think I was following the music during the
typing, since this one was written onstage, freestyle, to fit the musical
notes surrounding me. A great number of my writings happen this way.

The oxymoronic and clichéd
> nature of "gone to stay" should never survive a glance
> at the first draft, should it?

Sure, I could and probably will replace "stay" with a better rhyme for
"face"... such as "place", "space", or "disgrace".

> >carefully try to walk the line,
>

> Wasn't "walk the line" a cliché *before* Johnny Cash
> used it? Tip: If you didn't make the expression up,
> don't use it.

Nice! You caught the Johnny Cash homage! You just might be human, after all,
Colin, my friend! *grin*

> Avoid adverbs. They are rarely helpful and usually
> sound like film commentary.

Since I'm not being paid by the word, I'll remember that.

> >then the whole thing falls apart,
>

> Yes, that we can see.

"Havin' A Bad Day", as an erstwhile friend, Derrick Coile of Blue Flannel
used to sing...

> >feeling wounded and lonesome,
>
> Gee, thanks. You've saved the reader the trouble
> of drawing this conclusion on their own, based on the
> details of a story: events, conversation, description,
> tension, etc.

I try to be helpful, y'know. *wink*

> >feel it straight inside my heart.
>

> What a brilliant metaphor: the heart, used as a
> symbol of one's emotional center! Why, I don't think
> I have *ever* seen that used before! The originality
> and cleverness of your organ choice is astounding.

Well, you've seen it now!

> >I have been exiled,
> >from the main place
>

> I'd ask why, but the question seems evident enough. The
> "where" is easy. To the Pink Palace of Poetitude, right?

Nope... Gary Gamble and his PFFA have no power over where we post HERE...
get used to it, pal!

> <more of same snipped>

<ouch!>

> Shanking one's drives is not a matter of style. It is
> the mark of a novice golfer. Similarly, reliance upon such
> well worn language (they're called "clichés, Will) and such
> vague shortcuts around details (these are called "abstractions",
> Will) are the marks of a novice poet.

Or, perhaps a very stubborn old one like me.

> If this type of "poetry" interests you, check out
> postpoems.com

I can print my own vanity chapbook for less money, and award myself the
$1000 prize... thanks anyhow, man.

> There, you will find hundreds of poems that follow the
> same pattern--many of them using exactly the same clichés and
> abstractions ("heart" is a biggie--must be a case of simultaneous
> discovery though, right, Will?) that we see in this "poem".

Yeah, but these newsgroups have better circulation.

> Originality goes beyond authorship, you know, Will. It
> also suggests fresh and unique characteristics; everything
> that this "effort" lacks.
>
> A tip: try actually reading the things that you write
> before posting them, Will.

I did, and expected exactly your response. I posted anyway, because I like
it... esp. with the music.

Look for any expressions that you
> didn't invent. Kill them. Later, we'll work on abstractions.
> Small steps.

I *will* keep that in mind with future writings, seriously. Hope it's
possible to stick with it, sometimes it's not.

> Good luck, Will.
Colin

Thanks, Colin.
Will

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Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 21, 2003, 7:57:08 PM12/21/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant
Brain posted:

You just have to publish your first non stolen poem on Usenet, Liar!!!!


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Will Dockery

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Dec 21, 2003, 11:59:13 PM12/21/03
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"Peter J Ross" <p...@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> On 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant Brain wrote:
>
> > Will is a poet.
>
> While not quite on the same level as "I'm going to New York for
> Christmas" and "janet santana is a real person", this nevertheless
> ranks high on your list of laughable lies, chucknozzle. After all, if
> you really thought Will Dorkery was a poet, you'd have stolen his
> poems by now, wouldn't you?

Do you write poetry, Peter? By the way, I'm not so sure Chuck ever stole any
poetry... you guys are such currupt liars, this "evidence" of yours could
very easily been falsified, as so many Chuck posts have been done, recently
and in more distant past. At least half the posts by "Chuck" here we forged
by you and your fascist cronies.
Will

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Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 12:17:20 AM12/22/03
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"Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:32:26 -0500, "Will Dockery"

> <irony...@knology.net> wrote:
>
> >"Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote in message
> >news:nepbuvkgh90d18nsk...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:09:47 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> >> <irony...@knology.net> wrote:
>
> >> Wasn't "walk the line" a cliché *before* Johnny Cash
> >> used it? Tip: If you didn't make the expression up,
> >> don't use it.
> >
> >Nice! You caught the Johnny Cash homage! You just might be human, after
all,
> >Colin, my friend! *grin*
>
> Don't get the impression that I share your enthusiasm
> (and that of J.R. Sherman) for Johnny Cash. "Talents" who
> use the threat of sanction to coerce budding artists to
> ghostwrite for them are only one step above plagiarists in
> my eyes.

Perhaps I missed something. What are you accusing Johnny Cash of, and do you
have proof?

> Now, Roseanne Cash, that is another matter entirely
> to a Bloodliner such as myself.
>
> [snip for brevity]


>
> >> >I have been exiled,
> >> >from the main place
> >>
> >> I'd ask why, but the question seems evident enough. The
> >> "where" is easy. To the Pink Palace of Poetitude, right?

Never. Usenet is my home.

> >Nope... Gary Gamble and his PFFA have no power over where we post HERE...
> >get used to it, pal!
>

> No poem that you write would be removed from the
> Pink Palace of Poetitude. Nor would it seem out of
> place in the least. Indeed, the place was *designed*
> for "poets" exactly like you. I can assure you that
> you will find hundreds of kindred spirits there.

I'll never post a poem in a place with the sickening name of "Pink Palace of
Whatever". It's clearly written that Gary and the other moderators have the
right to *remove* a poem and place it there. Fuck that... try moving *this*,
chump.

> >> Shanking one's drives is not a matter of style. It is
> >> the mark of a novice golfer. Similarly, reliance upon such
> >> well worn language (they're called "clichés, Will) and such
> >> vague shortcuts around details (these are called "abstractions",
> >> Will) are the marks of a novice poet.
> >
> >Or, perhaps a very stubborn old one like me.
>

> Or a "both-er", as is the case here.

Written by a man who can never seem to finish a poem.

> >> If this type of "poetry" interests you, check out
> >> postpoems.com
> >
> >I can print my own vanity chapbook for less money, and award myself the
> >$1000 prize... thanks anyhow, man.
> >
> >> There, you will find hundreds of poems that follow the
> >> same pattern--many of them using exactly the same clichés and
> >> abstractions ("heart" is a biggie--must be a case of simultaneous
> >> discovery though, right, Will?) that we see in this "poem".
> >
> >Yeah, but these newsgroups have better circulation.
>

> Not true.

Oh well.

Again, while there are no stats kept for
> lurkers on Usenet, I'd warrant that both the Pink Palace
> of Poetitude and www.postpoems.com *each* have a greater
> membership than the newsgroups have patrons & lurkers.
> And, of course, most of those here are not members of
> either board. Hence, you would be expanding your readership
> with very little duplication.

I hate the name, though. "rec.arts.poems" and "alt.arts.poetry.comments" are
better, not to mention "alt.pagan" and the others I grace with my work.

> [snip for brevity]


>
> > Look for any expressions that you
> >> didn't invent. Kill them. Later, we'll work on abstractions.
> >> Small steps.
> >
> >I *will* keep that in mind with future writings, seriously. Hope it's
> >possible to stick with it, sometimes it's not.
>

> Consider it a personal challenge: try to write even
> one line which is both original and interesting. "The
> journey of 1,000 miles begins with one step", etc.

Google me, you'll find hundreds if you're honest about it.

> Again, good luck with it, Will.
>
> Colin

And, again, thanks, Colin.

Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 12:24:19 AM12/22/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Being tired of lurking, on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant
> Brain posted:
>
> > "Michael Cook" <cook36...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:<bs3qtt$8pt7m$1...@ID-206016.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> >> "The document falls apart,
> >> nothing left to say."
> >>
> >> What "document"?
> >>
> >> "Dreams fall apart,
> >> not so easy to face."
> >>
> >> Try plaster.
> >>
> >> "When the one I love
> >> is gone to stay."
> >>
> >> Where?
> >>
> >> "carefully try to walk the line,
> >> then the whole thing falls apart,"
> >> >Drivel snip<
> >>
> >> Good lord, what a lofty load of horse shit! Where have all the poets
> >> gone?
> >> mdc
> >
> > Will is a poet. You're not, Mikey. You're just a sick old faggot that
> > trolls poetry newsgroups.
> >
> You just have to publish your first non stolen poem on Usenet, Liar!!!!

Flonk... you've yet to do *anything* on Usenet, original *or* stolen!
Will

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Dec 22, 2003, 2:45:38 AM12/22/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.22...@hotmail.com>...
> Being tired of lurking, on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant
> Brain posted:
>
> > "Michael Cook" <cook36...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:<bs3qtt$8pt7m$1...@ID-206016.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> >> "The document falls apart,
> >> nothing left to say."
> >>
> >> What "document"?
> >>
> >> "Dreams fall apart,
> >> not so easy to face."
> >>
> >> Try plaster.
> >>
> >> "When the one I love
> >> is gone to stay."
> >>
> >> Where?
> >>
> >> "carefully try to walk the line,
> >> then the whole thing falls apart,"
> >> >Drivel snip<
> >>
> >> Good lord, what a lofty load of horse shit! Where have all the poets
> >> gone?
> >> mdc
> >
> > Will is a poet. You're not, Mikey. You're just a sick old faggot that
> > trolls poetry newsgroups.
> >
> You just have to publish your first non stolen poem on Usenet, Liar!!!!
>
>

chuckles did post some poems that made his oppositions think that he
had stolen them. the fact is you have not posted anything that
remotely resembles poetry.


> > http://chucklysaght.envy.nu/MyDailyRant.html

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 22, 2003, 12:57:39 PM12/22/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:59:13 -0500, Will Dockery
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1 (won) Godwin point for you!

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 22, 2003, 1:18:54 PM12/22/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:45:38 -0800, yyyiiinnnggg
posted:

His oppositions????

You are trying to write English again, I suppose.

Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 3:50:45 PM12/22/03
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"Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote

> >> >> Wasn't "walk the line" a cliché *before* Johnny Cash
> >> >> used it? Tip: If you didn't make the expression up,
> >> >> don't use it.
> >> >
> >> >Nice! You caught the Johnny Cash homage! You just might be human,
after
> >all,
> >> >Colin, my friend! *grin*
> >>
> >> Don't get the impression that I share your enthusiasm
> >> (and that of J.R. Sherman) for Johnny Cash. "Talents" who
> >> use the threat of sanction to coerce budding artists to
> >> ghostwrite for them are only one step above plagiarists in
> >> my eyes.
> >
> >Perhaps I missed something. What are you accusing Johnny Cash of, and do
you
> >have proof?
>

> What part of "coerce budding artists to ghostwrite for
> them" are you having trouble understanding, Will? Proof?
> Hell, one of his victims wrote a song about it:
>
>
http://www.californiabloodlines.com/action.lasso?-database=jslyrics.fp3&-layout=Web%20layout&-response=Detail.html&-recid=32782&-search
>
> Cash's modus operandi was to threaten aspiring artists
> who refused to ghostwrite for him with the prospect of not
> being able to record in any major studio. As John Stewart
> (of Kingston Trio fame) was to discover, this was no idle
> threat. Join the Bloodliners newslist if you want any of
> the gory details.
>
> http://www.chillywinds.com/bloodlines.html

I'll definately go there and check that out. While I've always loved the
music of Johnny Cash, I never followed many details of his life. Thanks,
Colin.
Will

> There are a number of ironies in the story. While
> Cash was ruthless towards those he thought he could exploit
> in this manner, he actually helped some artists (most
> notably John Denver and Kris Kristofferson) whose style
> were not close enough to his to serve as ghostwriters.
> The second irony is that Roseanne Cash sang along with
> Stewart on some of his albums; their duet on "Runaway
> Train" is hauntingly beautiful. No doubt, Roseanne's
> intervention effected a reconciliation between the two
> men a few years before Cash's death. In forgiving the
> "friend" who had betrayed him those decades earlier,
> Stewart proved that he was a much better man than Cash.
> His work, of course, had always proved that he was a
> far better singer, musician, performer and songwriter.
> Indeed, those familiar with Stewart's work place him
> second only to Dylan in the pantheon of American greats.
>
> Like Woody Guthry before him, Stewart is the voice
> of your nation. We Canadians can only look on in envy,
> having lost ours in an airport in Cincinatti in 1983.
> But that is another story.
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stan+Rogers%22+%2B+death+%2B+Cincinnati&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=1994Aug25.175345.8168%40vss.fsi.com&rnum=1
>
> My opinion of Cash? About the same as my opinion
> of those who allow 35 million Americans, including John's
> wife, Buffy Ford (suffering from a life-threatening brain
> tumour), to "slip through the cracks" in your country's
> health care delivery system. In other words: don't ask.
>


Will Dockery

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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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So, what's a Godwin point?


Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 22, 2003, 5:47:22 PM12/22/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:58:44 -0500, Will Dockery
posted:

Your lack of Beat Generation knowledge must be equal to your knowledge
about Usenet Culture. Internet is only there to fill up the vacuum that
resides around your talentless musical and poetical universe you believe
so evidently in, and everybody else obviously fails.

Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 6:23:17 PM12/22/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote

> >> 1 (won) Godwin point for you!
> >
> > So, what's a Godwin point?
>
> Your lack of Beat Generation knowledge must be equal to your knowledge
> about Usenet Culture. Internet is only there to fill up the vacuum that
> resides around your talentless musical and poetical universe you believe
> so evidently in, and everybody else obviously fails.

So, what's a Godwin point?

Will

Karma Bombs Mp3, free preview:
http://www.lulu.com/content/32109


Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 22, 2003, 6:41:16 PM12/22/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:23:17 -0500, Will Dockery
posted:

> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> >> 1 (won) Godwin point for you!
>> >
>> > So, what's a Godwin point?
>>
>> Your lack of Beat Generation knowledge must be equal to your knowledge
>> about Usenet Culture. Internet is only there to fill up the vacuum that
>> resides around your talentless musical and poetical universe you believe
>> so evidently in, and everybody else obviously fails.
>
> So, what's a Godwin point?
> Will
>

Google is your friend, but Talent isn't.

> Karma Bombs Mp3, free preview:
> http://www.lulu.com/content/32109

--

Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 6:44:19 PM12/22/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote

> >> >> 1 (won) Godwin point for you!
> >> >
> >> > So, what's a Godwin point?
> >>
> >> Your lack of Beat Generation knowledge must be equal to your knowledge
> >> about Usenet Culture. Internet is only there to fill up the vacuum that
> >> resides around your talentless musical and poetical universe you
believe
> >> so evidently in, and everybody else obviously fails.
> >
> > So, what's a Godwin point?
> > Will
> >
> Google is your friend, but Talent isn't.

Repeat that a few dozen times, and at least you'll convince yourself! Happy
holidays, Flonk! Maybe Santa will bring you a talent for something... so...


what's a Godwin point?
Will

Karma Bombs Mp3, free preview:
http://www.lulu.com/content/32109

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 22, 2003, 7:01:36 PM12/22/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:44:19 -0500, Will Dockery
posted:

Just admit one of the following:

1) I do not know what a Google search is
2) I never look something up on the internet
3) I don't know what words mean.

You can occasionally admit one or more of course....

Will Dockery

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Dec 22, 2003, 7:00:05 PM12/22/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:pan.2003.12.23....@hotmail.com...

> Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:44:19 -0500, Will Dockery
> posted:
>
> > "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >
> >> >> >> 1 (won) Godwin point for you!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, what's a Godwin point?
> >> >>
> >> >> Your lack of Beat Generation knowledge must be equal to your
> >> >> knowledge about Usenet Culture. Internet is only there to fill up
the
> >> >> vacuum that resides around your talentless musical and poetical
> >> >> universe you
> > believe
> >> >> so evidently in, and everybody else obviously fails.
> >> >
> >> > So, what's a Godwin point?
> >> > Will
> >> >
> >> Google is your friend, but Talent isn't.
> >
> > Repeat that a few dozen times, and at least you'll convince yourself!
> > Happy holidays, Flonk! Maybe Santa will bring you a talent for
> > something... so... what's a Godwin point?
> > Will
> >
> Just admit one of the following:
>
> 1) I do not know what a Google search is

I can't admit that, since Google search is great fun when there's something
I *want* to look up.

> 2) I never look something up on the internet

Same answer as number one, more-or-less.

> 3) I don't know what words mean.

I know a few words, not all. Do you?

yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 23, 2003, 12:14:10 AM12/23/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.22....@hotmail.com>...

what's wrong with that? I begin to realize that English is neither
your native tongue nor the native language of your country.

yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 23, 2003, 12:17:28 AM12/23/03
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why can't you just be plainly factual, what's a goddam point?

yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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i just knew you are monomaniac about words.

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 23, 2003, 12:27:54 AM12/23/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:14:10 -0800, yyyiiinnnggg
posted:


"oppositions" are not the same thing as "opponents",

> I begin to realize

that Usenet is not really your piece of cake. Neither is language,
culture, communication, art, intellect nor grown up women.
Any fucktard with 10% more brains as you had already fled Usenet since a
long time, but you keep sticking around here like the school drop out
retard you are.

>> You are trying to write English again, I suppose.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > http://chucklysaght.envy.nu/MyDailyRant.html

--

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 23, 2003, 12:29:38 AM12/23/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:17:28 -0800, yyyiiinnnggg
posted:

The one on your bonehead, yingtard.

Dr. Flonkenstein

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Dec 23, 2003, 12:32:25 AM12/23/03
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Being tired of lurking, on Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:18:37 -0800, yyyiiinnnggg
posted:

Look, obsesso has learned a new word!

Do you even understand what it means?
[probably not]

Peter J Ross

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Dec 23, 2003, 5:38:39 PM12/23/03
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:59:13 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:

> "Peter J Ross" <p...@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in message
> news:1r4exq8a...@gadfly.meow.org...
>> On 21 Dec 2003 07:27:39 -0800, Jethro's Giant Brain wrote:
>>
>>> Will is a poet.
>>
>> While not quite on the same level as "I'm going to New York for
>> Christmas" and "janet santana is a real person", this nevertheless
>> ranks high on your list of laughable lies, chucknozzle. After all,
>> if you really thought Will Dorkery was a poet, you'd have stolen
>> his poems by now, wouldn't you?
>
> Do you write poetry, Peter?

Some people seem to think so.

> By the way, I'm not so sure Chuck ever stole any poetry...

Here we have further evidence of what drug abuse does to the mind.

> you guys are such currupt liars,

Who are "you guys", Dorkery? Please provide a nice long kooky list.

> this "evidence" of yours could very easily been falsified, as so
> many Chuck posts have been done, recently

Somebody posted a few forgeries of chucknozzle a few months ago. I
haven't seen any since. Or are you one of the morons who thinks
parody is forgery?

> and in more distant past. At least half the posts by "Chuck" here we
> forged by you and your fascist cronies.

Do you Godwin yourself much?

> Will
>
> Mirror Twins Mp3, free preview: http://nobody.wants.to.hear.dorkery'
> s.crap.com/

I fixed your broken link.

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Usenette; Highe Shire-reeve, and Comptroller of Sockage, Sickage,
Sackage, and Suckage; of Scottage, Scutage, Gloatage, Flounceage,
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Will Dockery

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Dec 25, 2003, 5:39:29 AM12/25/03
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[since once again a thread has been completely derailed by Trolls, I'm
reposting the poem here as a service to the readers out there interested in
giving it some serious commentary.]

Karma Bombs

The document falls apart,
nothing left to say.

Dreams fall apart,
not so easy to face.

When the one I love
is gone to stay.

carefully try to walk the line,
then the whole thing falls apart,

feeling wounded and lonesome,


feel it straight inside my heart.

I have been exiled,
from the main place

-Will Dockery. (c)2002

http://www.lulu.com/content/29085


yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 25, 2003, 4:41:08 PM12/25/03
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why can't you just admit you used a person's last name who's not
enough known to make your point concise? that's just another pattern
of your lamage.

Big Red Helmut

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Dec 25, 2003, 5:40:29 PM12/25/03
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yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote in
<670584bc.03122...@posting.google.com>:

Ahem...theres an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to post to
usenet on Christmas...this is of course an ethnocentric attitude which
fails to take into account other religions like Judaeism....
FYI
HTH

Will Dockery

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Dec 26, 2003, 2:49:59 AM12/26/03
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"Big Red Helmut" <sp...@themonkey.edu> wrote

> Ahem...theres an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to post to
> usenet on Christmas...this is of course an ethnocentric attitude which
> fails to take into account other religions like Judaeism....
> FYI
> HTH

No posting on Christmas? Why is that?.
Will

"Greybeard Cavalier" Mp3, free preview:
http://my.lulu.com/content/26663


yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 27, 2003, 2:16:22 AM12/27/03
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"Will Dockery" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message news:<3febeec4$1...@news1.knology.net>...

> "Big Red Helmut" <sp...@themonkey.edu> wrote
>
> > Ahem...theres an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to post to
> > usenet on Christmas...this is of course an ethnocentric attitude which
> > fails to take into account other religions like Judaeism....
> > FYI
> > HTH
>
> No posting on Christmas? Why is that?.
> Will
>

may be that's a war stopper for the holidays.

yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 27, 2003, 2:17:02 AM12/27/03
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"Will Dockery" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message news:<3febeec4$1...@news1.knology.net>...
> "Big Red Helmut" <sp...@themonkey.edu> wrote
>
> > Ahem...theres an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to post to
> > usenet on Christmas...this is of course an ethnocentric attitude which
> > fails to take into account other religions like Judaeism....
> > FYI
> > HTH
>
> No posting on Christmas? Why is that?.
> Will
>

and i forgot to say merry christmas, will.

Will Dockery

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Dec 27, 2003, 2:31:01 AM12/27/03
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<yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:670584bc.03122...@posting.google.com...

> "Will Dockery" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message
news:<3febeec4$1...@news1.knology.net>...
> > "Big Red Helmut" <sp...@themonkey.edu> wrote
> >
> > > Ahem...theres an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to post to
> > > usenet on Christmas...this is of course an ethnocentric attitude which
> > > fails to take into account other religions like Judaeism....
> > > FYI
> > > HTH
> >
> > No posting on Christmas? Why is that?.
> > Will
> >
>
> and i forgot to say merry christmas, will.

Happy holidays to you too, Ying!
Will

yyyiii...@yahoo.com

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Dec 27, 2003, 3:39:02 AM12/27/03
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"Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.23....@hotmail.com>...

thanks scooter, if not for you, i wouldn't know people like you existed.

Oldriley

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Jan 20, 2004, 5:13:16 PM1/20/04
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Hi all,

Someone alerted me to this chat group and I felt that I should post
here and set the record straight. My name is Tim Riley and I am a
friend of John Stewart's. I am the webmaster for John's online lyric
database (www.califoniabloodlines.com), run his online CD store, and I
am the moderator for his onllne discussion group, Bloodlines. When I
read the posts here I was amazed at this story because I have never
heard anything like it before. I have heard John say that he wrote
"Never Goin Back" long before he recorded in Nashville and picked the
name of the city out of thin air. Also, I have never heard him say
anything but kind words about Johnny Cash and John is very friendly
with Rosanne. So when I read the posts here I talked to John to see if
there was any truth to this story. John's response was an emphatic
"No".

First of all, he wrote "Daydream Believer" long after the Monkees were
established. John's friend, Chip Douglas replaced Don Kirshner as the
Monkees producer and offered them the song. John had previously
offered the song to Spanky and Our Gang. The Monkees took the song and
had a huge hit. John still receives songwriter's royalties from this
song.

Secondly, John recorded his landmark album "California Bloodlines" in
Nashville in 1968. Bob Dylan was recording "Nashville Skyline" in the
studio across the hall. Kris Kristofferson was sweeping floors at the
studio. The decision to record the album in Nashville was made by
John's producer, Nik Venet. When they came back to LA with the album,
they helped start the entire Country Rock genre. John was one of the
first folk/rock artists to record with Nashville musicians and the
whole LA rock scene took note of that album which was later selected
as one of Rolling Stone's top 200 albums of all time.

John never had any problem with Johnny Cash and was never threatened
or strongarmed by Johnny in any way. Johnny sang a duet with John on
"Get Rhythm" on John's "Airdream Believer" CD and John and Rosanne
remain the best of friends. Hope this sets the record straight. These
legends start and take on a life of their own. I'm sure that the
people posting here thought this story was true but according to John
it is totally false.


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Will Dockery

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Jan 20, 2004, 6:19:40 PM1/20/04
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Well, I'm glad you came and set the record straight. Up until this point,
I'd never heard anything but good things about Johnny Cash. May he rest in
peace.
Will

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http://www.lulu.com/content/29085

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