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Ruswa  
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 More options Jun 29 1999, 3:00 am
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From: "Ruswa" <a...@althea.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1999/06/29
Subject: R - The Weeping Nation
Devotions of the Prince #2

The Weeping Nation

Love is a wild, a sentient sorrow
That longs through life for Beauty

Beauty lives behind the veil
Feeding on Love's grief

They may not meet, but Beauty gives
A glimpse to Love at times

Love will spasm in return
The agony of separation

Yearn, at least to touch the veil
That hides the face of light

Then weep, Love has no place
With laughter, Love will weep

And Beauty smiles, she knows
Love burns with grief

R.


 
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 More options Jun 30 1999, 3:00 am
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From: N Burwood <chari...@cruzio.com>
Date: 1999/06/30
Subject: Re: R - The Weeping Nation

The prince returns in sombre mood--this attractive piece has a 1890s
feel--Dowson etc., Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder etc.,
Weeping  Nation? Are we talking princesses here?
Nigel

 
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 More options Jun 30 1999, 3:00 am
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From: "Ruswa" <a...@althea.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1999/06/30
Subject: Re: R - The Weeping Nation

N Burwood <chari...@cruzio.com> wrote

> The prince returns in sombre mood--this attractive piece has a 1890s
> feel--Dowson etc., Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder etc.,
> Weeping  Nation? Are we talking princesses here?
> Nigel

Cynara was our anthem in the dissolute, unfaithful college years.

Notes to poems are frowned on here, but I shall forgive myself this once.
The weeping nation is a term used to refer to my people -  the Ithna'
sheri. The spiritual reading of the poem has Beauty as God, and Love as
faith. Alternatively, this is a description of the underlying philosophy to
the Persian / Urdu poetic form - the ghazal. The merit of a ghazal is often
measured by how well it captures the wonder of Beauty, or the torment of
Love. In that reading it is more a reflection on some of the themes that I
have picked up in the Prince series.

I acknowledge here a debt to Zamir Akhtar Naqvi, for his lucid and
passionate lecture on the subject.

R


 
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 More options Jun 30 1999, 3:00 am
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From: N Burwood <chari...@cruzio.com>
Date: 1999/06/30
Subject: Re: R - The Weeping Nation

Good to hear that. I don't frown on elucidation/ annotations/notes etc., It
was OK for Tom Eliot. Maybe one day you will say more about Zamir Akhtar
Naqvi. Cynara--is there a more heady poem? Nigel

 
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