National Poetry Month - April 29: Dialogue
Karla
posting the Liz Haight's Walter and His Fat Wife poems, along with her
"homage" poem prompted today's theme. Post a poem that you wrote in response
to, or in dialogue with, or as companion to, another poem. Of course it will
help us all if you post the inspiring poem as well.
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"I stand between two worlds. I am at home in neither,
and I suffer in consequence...As I write the sea
whispers to me and I close my eyes. I am looking into
a world unborn and formless that needs to be ordered
and shaped; I see into a whir of shadows of human
figures who beckon to me to weave spells to redeem
them: tragic and laughable figures and some that
are both together--and to these I am drawn."
from Tonio Kroger
by Thomas Mann
Will Dockery
Karla wrote:
> Today was grand!
Indeed it was.
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Dialogue.
Remember the cold,
yes, I remember.
Remember I love you,
yes, I remember that.
Remember the hallway,
yes, I remember.
White circles in your blue stones,
yes, I remember that.
Seven sisters,
none really blood relation.
They were bound by Mercury,
they were closer than family.
The moon is waning, little icon,
yes, I remember.
Wish that it had have happened that night,
then this would not happen.
Remember the memory,
yes, I remember that.
Remember I love you,
yes, I remember that.
Remember the steam,
remember the green.
Remember that I love you,
yes, I remember that.
-Will Dockery [written for Lady Katherine, 1995]
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Dale Houstman
Karla wrote:
> Today was grand! All the lovely love poems. Thank you so much. Joy's
> posting the Liz Haight's Walter and His Fat Wife poems, along with her
> "homage" poem prompted today's theme. Post a poem that you wrote in response
> to, or in dialogue with, or as companion to, another poem. Of course it will
> help us all if you post the inspiring poem as well.
>
>
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James Shirley (1596-1666)
The Glories of our Blood and State
___________________________________
The glories of our blood and state
Are shadows, not substantial things;
There is no armour against fate;
Death lays his icy hand on kings.
Sceptre and crown
Must tumble down,
And in the dust be equal made
With the poor crooked scythe and spade.
Some men with swords may reap the field,
And plant fresh laurels where they kill;
But their strong nerves at last must yield,
They tame but one another still.
Early or late,
They stoop to fate,
And must give up their murmuring breath,
When they, pale captives, creep to death.
The garlands wither on your brow,
Then boast no more your mighty deeds;
Upon death's purple altar now,
See where the victor-victim bleeds.
Your heads must come
To the cold tomb;
Only the actions of the just
Smell sweet and blossom in their dust.
______________________________________
WHAT COMFORT COULD IT BE
in answer to James Shirley
______________________________________
The State is Substance, mad and not a sugared Shade
within which the Wretch has risen and the Czar’s unmade:
Yes—the General and its generals are damp red Dirt in Death,
But it is Life that splits the Bone, cakes the Lung, and blackens
Breath.
Though Life’s the Mother Enemy who pays to have us surrounded,
Even Death’s no level Meadow where the vital Spark is grounded:
The Landlords are fated to own Oblivion too—the Meek lie in wait;
Even the Good die unremembered unless (by chance) they are also great.
What Comfort could it be, for You or Me
If Life costs all we save, then Death moves in for free?
At the last, nothing matter but the Pennies one has spent—
You fall through all your Riches, and then Eternity is rent:
And, after Death has settled, the Rich rule permanently
Over poor Sods with their poor Gods; Cattle’s pretty Poverty.
Death is slow fermenting, then purchased like Black Tea
To be poured at the Funeral of Gold by Poor Fools like Me.
The Sentiment of Death is dead, and life’s a damn Parade
Of over-priced Amusements in Beds—not Czars—unmade.
What Comfort could it be, for You or Me
If Life costs all we save, then Death moves in for free?
___
dmh
scott milton
got any poetry that isn't 10yrs old?
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>Karla wrote:
>> Today was grand!
>
>Indeed it was.
>
>----
>Dialogue.
gosh, dockery, i think there may be some newsgroups in usenet you didn't
cross-post this to.
how come?
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And his hair was perfect."
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Will Dockery
None that fit this topic so easily.
j r sherman
says...
>> got any poetry that isn't 10yrs old?
>
>None that fit this topic so easily.
dockery, please. there are still newsgroups in usenet you have not cross-posted
this message to. not many newsgroups, but some. so i really wish you wouldn't be
so fucking lazy.
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1114793466.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
>
> >> got any poetry that isn't 10yrs old?
> >
> >None that fit this topic so easily.
>
> dockery, please. there are still newsgroups in usenet
Any major poetry newsgroups I've missed, JRS?
If so, let me know and I'll share the love with them.
Karla
Where's the companion poem?
Karla
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> In article <1114793466.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>Will Dockery
>> says...
>>
>> >> got any poetry that isn't 10yrs old?
>> >
>> >None that fit this topic so easily.
>>
>> dockery, please. there are still newsgroups in usenet
>
>Any major poetry newsgroups I've missed, JRS?
>If so, let me know and I'll share the love with them.
what makes you think anyone in those newsgroups would want to read your posts?
PJR
The word "companion" seems to have slipped into your question by
mistake.
PJR :-)
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PJR
> Today was grand! All the lovely love poems. Thank you so much.
> Joy's posting the Liz Haight's Walter and His Fat Wife poems, along
> with her "homage" poem prompted today's theme. Post a poem that you
> wrote in response to, or in dialogue with, or as companion to,
> another poem. Of course it will help us all if you post the
> inspiring poem as well.
Dennis M Hammes:
Light
Put out the light, and then put out the light;
Be kept by quilts until the clock bestir.
To sleep is mere vacation from the fight,
A little warmth, an exercise in might,
Abolishing cold cost with character.
Put out the light, and then put out the light,
Put out the world and pull the blanket tight
Around a perfect pair, or paired with purr,
To sleep is mere vacation from the fight.
And go that gentle into that good night,
What fear of falling dreams it could demur
Put out the light, and then put out the light
When nothing will deny an appetite
And all that lie agree that they concur
To sleep is mere vacation from the fight?
And be forbidden by the acolyte,
All Earth abides and knows the way we were.
Put out the light, and then put out the light,
To sleep is mere vacation from the fight.
Me:
Sleep Tight
Put out the trash, and then put out the cat:
Let neither stench nor miaow disturb your slumbers.
Put earplugs in, and tranquillise the brat.
Rage not against the flying of the bat,
Whose radarsqueak no human ear encumbers.
Put out the trash, and then put out the cat.
For perfect rest, learn by example that
Wise men who sleep in rusty Fords and Humbers
Put earplugs in, and tranquillise the brat.
Dennis hath murdered sleep by playing scat
High-volume, foxtrots loud, and noisy rumbas.
Put out the trash, and then put out the cat.
Fear not the bagpipe or the toothy rat,
Or through what closet-door what rough beast lumbers.
Put earplugs in, and tranquillise the brat.
And you, my father, sleepless on your mat
And wondering what I mean by these crude numbers:
Put out the trash, and then put out the cat;
Put earplugs in, and tranquillise the brat.
- November 2001
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?th=8b697935c7ce497d
Will Dockery
think of the most fanous of the handicapped poets of Usenet, Tom
Bishop.
When Bishop first arrived, in 2002, he was doing some interesting
things with "dialogue" poetry. He did several of mine, the ones below I
remember well. My poem, and Bishop's two "answers":
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From: Will Dockery (irony...@knology.net)
Subject: Pastel Hollerings. by Tom Bishop
Pastel Hollerings.
I ate your pigs of poetry;
we tasted secret chemicals.
You come to me
like wood on bone.
As roses petalled, beauty fell,
and you, in pastel hollerings,
assumed a tuneful pose
in printed skirts of sunflowers.
--
Tom Bishop
Note - inspired from:
"Skirt of Printed Sunflowers"
by Will Dockery (see r.a.p. recent)
Skirt of Printed Sunflowers.
Girl of these woods and chemicals,
we labor for the black pigs of my poetry,
for the bone gods of the sea,
for the secret rose you keep for me,
under the skirts of printed sunflowers.
There is a hollering and someone has a
dog that barks,
your eyes have that recently crying look,
and your hair seems as soft
and your smell as sweet, as before,
as that last time you came to my door,
in a skirt of printed pastel sunflowers.
But it has been seen that you look
straight through,
I fear that you are already gone,
that night you tried to die in my arms,
is something that I will not forget
or make sense of,
you and your skirt of bright printed sunflowers.
Methinks that you no longer see nothing,
and god knows what kind
of love is this,
you told me that you never stopped loving me,
but you could never return to me,
in your skirt of printed sunflowers.
-Will Dockery 2001
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*and*:
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From: Tom Bishop (t...@truly.nu)
Subject: Re: Pastel Hollerings (v.2)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.arts.poems, us.arts.poetry
Date: 2002-08-06 06:49:29 PST
"George Tolis" wrote
> "Tom Bishop" <t...@truly.nu> wrote
>
> > I ate your pigs of poetry;
> > we tasted secret chemicals.
> >
> > You come to me
> > like wood on bone.
> >
> > As roses petalled, beauty fell,
> > and you, in pastel hollerings,
> > assumed a tuneful pose
> > in printed skirts of sunflowers.
>
> Almost what Dennis said, in less cryptic terms.
>
> You're running up the same shelves with this poem as Dockery's poem,
> but you're giving chase, so this is almost like an extra stanza,
> rather than recognising it's autonomy from his poem.
It was a rearrangement..
"What I could do"
..basically with his poem as /source/ material.
Not that I can't think.. although questionable at times..
..as I rearrange, I am a reader.
When I read something I like, I add it to my
accumulation of other things I liked.
I started out having a "message"
..something to say.
Much of what I am writing now is more
driven from something else..
..this /source/ material concept.
Dale and I did an iteration of what I called
"FreeSource Method".. that's fun.. and really
generates a bunch of images to play with.
Dale seems to frequently take other poems
as /source/ for his (clearly many do).
I am about to program web and usenet searches
to pull random lines out of /various/ targeted
areas.. (like AAPC) to accumulate /source/ material..
> The opening line is great.
Mostly thanks to Will.
> Line 2 is bad: "secret" is a bad modifier
> and there's a passivity in the meter, more than anything - perhaps
> making it more direct and dropping the abstract, useless 'secret'?
Starting to see /what you are seeing/ more..
..I can see that a poem made more out of the things you like
would be a better/more interesting/etc. poem.
> Lines 3 and 4 are wonderful. A nice clubbing sensation in the meter
> that carries the image beautifully.
Donno why (especially) 4 is really striking to me..
>
> "Rose petals" - ugh. "beauty fell" - ugh. "tuneful" - ugh. "assuming
a
> pose" hmm:
>
> "You posed
> in pastel hollerings
> in printed skirts of sunflowers."
>
> Basically, you throw it away in the final section. "it" being the
> sharpness of the images in the first 4 lines.
>
> However you tighten up the last bit, I'd definitely say that this
poem
> needs some fleshing out with a very minimalist sense of the narrator,
> so that you set yourself apart from the original poem more. You
> already have the "chemical" taste of his "pigs of poetry" but who is
> the "we" and who is the "I" and who is the "you"?
..aside: as I get it, it is a male, and a lover that there is a
love/hate
relationship with.. (wood on bone.. like getting hit with a bat)
..and hollerings is angry.. but pastel tames it in a strange way..
..plus the "pigs" of poetry is not the lovliest one can say.
>That's what I'd use
> to define how you work this. Although not as a narrative piece, as
an
> imagist piece where you place each person at a different perspective
> to your central idea - Will's poem.
OK.. here is v.2
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I ate your pigs of poetry;
we weathered vile chemicals.
You come to me
like wood on bone,
the flute you played
was razor sharp.
The barrel bottom's seen
our tongue.
The cats you've taken in
have died.
The chemicals, now washed away,
have left a stain on mustered pride.
And you, my sometime pull-tab
diamond love...
You pose in pastel hollerings,
in printed skirts of sunflowers.
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Thanks again!
Tom Bishop ,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,
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Interesting guy... little wonder the jeering hecklers put their full
force of sleazy games behind driving him away... he made 'em look bad.
"Billy, the electorate of Lincoln County want you *gone*." -James
Coburn
"Well, Pat, are they asking, or telling?" -Kris Kristofferson
Meanwhile, I have a few red ballons to pop. *wink*
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moon is atrocious and every sun bitter." -Arthur Rimbaud
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Renay
"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115569165.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
this post does answer the question about whether you've
got a learning disability or you're just plain ignorant.
Renay
Will Dockery
> "Will Dockery" wrote
>
> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>
> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>
> this post does answer the question
I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex you are
or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering heckler
status. Those that can't...
> > Meanwhile, I have a few red balloons to pop. *wink*
Whether crippled on the *outside* or not, JRS is obviously, as Lennon
put it, "crippled inside"... as his recent jokes about he rape of women
and children make very clear.
Poor kid.
ggamble
>Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
So, you take whatever chuckles types and just run with it?
You really do have a lot of time on your hands, don't you, dockery?
Maybe if you spent as much time studying your grammar as you do
endlessly spewing the sordid details of your wretched life all over
usenet, your writing wouldn't resemble that of the ninth grade dropout
you obviously are.
I heard a rumour that you once read a book, but I'm awaiting
independent confirmation.
Will Dockery
ggamble wrote:
> On 8 May 2005 09:19:25 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>
> So, you take whatever chuckles types and just run with it?
Whoever came up with the theory that JRS is a gimp, and Chuck added
that someone else gave him the information, it makes sense as an
explanation of JRS' impotent rage.
Maybe someday *yours* will be explained.
> You really do have a lot of time on your hands, don't you, dockery?
>
> Maybe if you spent as much time studying your grammar as you do
> endlessly spewing the sordid details of your wretched life all over
> usenet, your writing wouldn't resemble that of the ninth grade
dropout
> you obviously are.
Yeah, quite a few of the Usenet "God's" *grin* could stand to hit the
books, as well, including you pals JRS & RSJ, obviously.
> I heard a rumour that you once read a book, but I'm awaiting
> independent confirmation.
I read the fairly recent comic mini-series "Rawhide Kid", last night,
found in the bargain bin at the Shadowville Book Exchange. Good stuff.
I bought it for the art of an old favorite, John Severin, but loved the
story... and it's quite "on topic" for discussions about why some folks
here are the way they are, your old "what's you're problem?" thing, and
a mulling of how it doesn't have to be that way... other "roads" can be
taken.
Just because your parents were monsters doesn't mean you have to grow
up and become one yourself.
A bit of commentary on "Rawhide Kid", found at first glance, from the
archives:
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From: George Grattan (gra...@rcn.com)
Subject: Re: Rawhide Kid explicit?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe
Date: 2003-02-07 08:13:02 PST
on 2/7/03 3:22 AM, Tony at tj7...@aol.com wrote:
>> From: George Grattan
>> No, I've seen his previous work and am fairly well convinced he's
not a good
>> writer.
>>
>> But this is the first issue of a new title, and inside many bad
writers is a
>> good--or at least better--writer waiting to find the "right"
project.
>> Writers, like any other creative person, can develop their craft.
>> Zimmerman's still new enough in the field to be given more time to
develop,
>> just as any other artist or writer should be.
>>
>> Mind you: I still don't think I'm likely to enjoy Zimmerman's work
on RK.
>> But on principle, I'm going to read the book for an issue-- or even
>> two--before deciding that.
>
> --glass half full kinda guy, eh? :)
No, I love to take the engineer's perspective on that problem, even
though
I'm not an engineer:
The glass is simply twice as big as it needs to be. :-)
> Seriously, I can appreciate where you're coming from here. I guess I
see it
> as
> a waste of time. No matter how new to writing (or old) a person is,
if they
> consistently prove their writing just isn't cutting it (which I'd say
> Zimmerman
> has proven--to me), I don't see the point in holding out hope they'll
get
> better. I mean if all I've seen is crap, why should I care if
they're going
> to
> get better?
Because, occasionally, they will get better. Lee and Kirby did, so did
Lee
and Ditko, Claremont and Cockrum, Claremont and Byrne, and
(especially),
Miller. Granted: none of these examples were anywhere near as bad as
Zimmerman (now there's the understatement of the century, I know), but
the
principle is the same: creators can hone their craft. In a serial--even
ephemeral--art form, I think it's particularly important to keep the
possibility in mind.
Obviously, though, there comes a point where a given creator has
demonstrated to a given reader that he or she just isn't *likely* to
produce
material that the reader will find worth his or her time and money.
Zimmerman reached that point for me at about the fourth story of his
that I
read. But new projects raise the slight possibility, again, that change
could be afoot. Would I have gone a near a first issue to a GET KRAVEN
sequel? No, not unless someone I loved was being held hostage. :-)
I mean, someone I really, really loved.
> Are you trying the book for any certain reason? Do you like the art
or the
> title character?
I love John Severin's art, and am always pleased to see an older pro
get
work. And, as explained above, I tried it to give the off-off-off
chance
that Zimmerman had improved as a writer on this new endeavor a fair
opportunity to present itself to me. (More on that below....) I have no
great love for Rawhide Kid per se, but I do like a diversity of genres
in
comics, and am always interested when any company/creator tries to
bring one
into play. I'm also wholeheartedly in favor of having non-het
characters
take more prominent roles, whatever the sub-genre or stylistic
approach.
> Or are you trying it for the "controversy"?
Well, sure. That is, in the sense that I wanted to read it for myself
so as
to be able to have an informed opinion about a book that many people
were
likely to be discussing.
And, with that segue:
Didn't care for it. Art was beautiful in most spots and the
storytelling
power of that art is a strong as I remembered, but here and there
(especially the final scene at the campfire), Severin's art was
too-obviously constrained by Zimmerman's ideas of what would constitute
sight gags of cowboy effeminancy. (The cigarette holder and robe?
Please.
How very droll.)
The humor-- such as it is--prides itself on its cleverness, but puts
none in
evidence. It goes no where near far enough with the central conceit, in
fact, which is what I suspected would be the chief problem with the
concept
under Zimmerman's handling. You're doing a gay comic book cowboy and
the
best you can come up with for your premiere issue are jokes about Wild
Bill
Hicock's endowment, the Lone Ranger's fashion sense, and pointless
swipes
from the Little House books* and other "Western" source materials?
Does
Zimmerman actually *know* any funny gay men? The jokes here were no
where
near outrageous enough, perhaps especially because they'd been so
thoroughly
leaked to press in advance. You know how all the best lines of really
bad
comedies are in the previews? Same thing happened here: the Lone Ranger
and
Wild Bill lines *might* have been funny if I hadn't read them three
dozen
times prior to purchasing the book itself.
The pacing and tone of several of the comedic bits was also off: when
RK
shows up to mock the Sheriff's reaction to being shot as over-dramatic,
that's all well and good, but nothing in the issue prior to that point
has
really prepped us for it-- Zimmerman assumes we know we're reading a
deconstruction but doesn't do any actual deconstructing until then. Up
until
that point, I just thought I was reading a really *bad* western story,
but
it's clear from what follows that he wanted me to be thinking I was
reading
a *self-consciously* bad western story, and that crucial matter of tone
just
doesn't come across, so the appearance of the truly farcical feels
abrupt.
This is a work-- and a writer-- that just wants me to take it on faith
that
really clever things are happening. RK's reaction to the sheriff is
somewhat
amusing, but we do have a dead deputy lying there at the same time, and
a
passel of traumatized kids, too. Are these things supposed to be funny?
Who
the hell knows? I don't think the writer's clear about it himself,
actually.
This dynamic reminds me of nothing so much as when my students try to
write
parody but simply end up writing bad examples of the things they're
trying
to parody, nonetheless thinking they've done the did because of the
*context* of the assignment itself. "But, of course it's a parody. You
said
that's what we had to write!"
The lead character of a piss-take like this needs to be far more
likeable
(cf. _Zorro the Gay Blade_, West and Ward in _Batman_, Wilder and
Little in
_Blazing Saddles_, any "Simpsons" episode) than what we've seen of RK
so
far, who merely comes across as bitchy and narcissistic. (But, again,
not
enough of either of *those* if that's where Z wanted to go for the
humor, cf
_The Producers_, "AbFab," or "Will and Grace".) As I think Hannibal
pointed
out in his remarks, the story is mishandled in such a way that one's
sympathies and interests align with the sheriff, not the title
character,
and that's a huge problem: I'm *supposed* to see the sheriff as a
square,
but he actually comes off as a fairly decent fellow, and RK comes off
as a
snotty punk, except not *enough* of one to be truly interesting or
funny.
There's an interesting meta-text, at least, to the final campfire
scene, in
which we have a character we know to be gay making comments which we
get the
sexual import of while the boys listening to him don't. That's a
potentially
rich set-up for a character from a kid's genre, in a form that the
public at
large still associates with children, to be discussing sexuality and
celebrity culture--in his underwear (at first), no less. Given
Zimmerman's
own pseudo-celebrity status (he's famous for *knowing* people who are
famous
for being well known) and the publicity around this project, I thought:
"A-ha! Now *this* has got some possibilities. How far will they push
this?
Will one of those boys evidence an..interest...in RK? Will they fold
this
whole thing in on itself?" There was an interesting, potentially
transgressive edge to that scene that kept creeping around the edges,
but
didn't seem to really come to the fore. That's too bad. It could have
been
both funny and shocking and, hence, valuable.
So, no, I didn't like the book, and probably won't be coming back to
check
out the next issue. Zimmerman's weaknesses as a writer as I had
previously
seen them are still firmly in place.
The book isn't funny enough, and it sure ain't gay enough.
So I'll sit back and hope that some braver soul with either go full out
with
the gay comic cowboy porn parody that could be hysterical, or at least
with
Marvel's Village People parody of RK and His Rough Riders: Red Wolf,
Sub-Mariner, Thunderstrike, and Sgt. Tork.
Buncha pansies at that company, if you ask me.... :-)
* I really, really wonder how the Laura Ingalls Wilder estate would
feel
about these swipes, to say nothing of whatever TV network or production
company owns their share of the rights to the characters. I presume
Marvel's
"defense" would be that the use here is clearly parodical, and hence
permitted, but I thought parody was supposed to be *funny*.
Shalom, Peace, Salaam
George Grattan
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Interesting, and since the fan boys stayed away from it in droves, the
price is right.
Renay
> Renay wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" wrote
>>
>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>>
>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>>
>> this post does answer the question
>
> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex you are
> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering heckler
> status. Those that can't...
get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
Renay
Will Dockery
> "Will Dockery" wrote
> >>
> >> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
> >>
> >> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
> >>
> >> this post does answer the question
> >
> > I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex you
are
> > or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
>
> *meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
Pussy need feeding, Renny Skank?
> > But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
heckler
> > status. Those that can't...
>
> get drunk
Depending on the nature of Sherman's "handicap", he might not be able
to drink, if, for instance, he has kidney failure and undergoes
dialysis... which is yet another explanation for his obsession with
calling me a "drunk" every other sentence, besides the fact that his
parents were abusive drunkards.
> and make asses of themselves on stage?
On some stages he might be able to gimp around until he fell on his
face, or back into his wheelchair, but the SoHo stage is four feet off
the ground and isn't "wheelchair accessable".
Great fun to leap off of into the crowd in inspired drunken moments.
--
"Karma Bombs" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/32000/32109/preview/Karma_Bombs.mp3
j r sherman
GARY! for christ's sake! how can you spread such ridiculous rumors on usenet!
dockery read a book? yeah, right! and Elvis gives me blowjobs while i am resting
at my estate on Mars!
dockery read a book! there's simply no way this kind of crackpot idea could ever
be confirmed. it's just too farfetched to be believed by anyone.
next you'll be claiming that he has a job that pays him more than $600 dollars a
month!
(:D)
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys? i'll bet dockery's so delusional he
imagines that people really would want to have his life.
Will Dockery
> Elvis gives me blowjobs
In your fantasy Elvis is in diapers to feed your child rape fetish, no
doubt.
> while i am resting
In your wheelchair?
--
"Karma Bombs" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/32000/32109/preview/Karma_Bombs.mp3
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> Renay says...
> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
> >>>
> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
> >>>
> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
> >>>
> >>> this post does answer the question
> >>
> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
you are
> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
> >
> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
> >
> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
heckler
> >> status. Those that can't...
> >
> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
>
> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI check
to keep you floating.
BTW, when are you sending the grand you owe me, since you lost our
wager of a few days ago?
--
"Karma Bombs" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/32000/32109/preview/Karma_Bombs.mp3
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
Karla
>Renay wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" wrote
>>
>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>>
>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>>
>> this post does answer the question
>
>I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex you are
>or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
>
>But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering heckler
>status. Those that can't...
Can anyone get more prejudiced and blind about such prejudice than Dockery?
Karla
Karla
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Renay says...
>> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
>> >>>
>> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>> >>>
>> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>> >>>
>> >>> this post does answer the question
>> >>
>> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
>you are
>> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
>> >
>> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
>> >
>> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
>heckler
>> >> status. Those that can't...
>> >
>> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
>>
>> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
>
>Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI check
>to keep you floating.
>
>BTW, when are you sending the grand you owe me, since you lost our
>wager of a few days ago?
You didn't win any bet. In your dreams, you wish you had /something/ to
steal. hahahahaha
Too bad you told Mr. Cook to feel free to use your music and pointed him to
"the links [that] are posted on at least a thousand Usenet threads".
Like I said, in your dreams you wish you had /anything/ anybody would want to
steal. And failing that, you make derogatory comments about the disabled to
boost your own failing sense of being a human being.
Karla
Will Dockery
> >> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
> >> >>>
> >> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> this post does answer the question
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
> >you are
> >> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
> >> >
> >> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
> >> >
> >> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
> >heckler
> >> >> status. Those that can't...
> >> >
> >> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
> >>
> >> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
> >
> >Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI
check
> >to keep you floating.
> >
> >BTW, when are you sending the grand you owe me, since you lost our
> >wager of a few days ago?
>
> You didn't win any bet.
You don't even know what the wager was about, do you, Karla Konfusion?
> In your dreams, you wish you had /something/ to
> steal. hahahahaha
>
> Too bad you told Mr. Cook to feel free to use your music and pointed
him to
> "the links [that] are posted on at least a thousand Usenet threads".
Yeah, bitch, but I never told him he could *own* the stuff. Damn,
Karla, you're such a biased piece of shit. In addition to being a dried
up senile crone.
> Like I said, in your dreams you wish you had /anything/ anybody would
want to
> steal.
That's a matter of your own opinion, and the fact remains that whatever
the "value" of my poetry and music, Michael Cook *did* threaten to
steal the video, *and* copyright it in his name, repeatedly.
> And failing that, you make derogatory comments about the disabled to
> boost your own failing sense of being a human being.
Your sense of "being a human being" had to have dropped a notch or so
when you shrugged and looked the other way when the rape jokes were
flying from your side of the fence... no reason for you to deny *or*
admit it: your silence on the matter makes either response moot.
Too bad *Will Dockery* didn't make the jokes about the rape of women
and children, huh, Karla Konfusion?
You'd be spewing your sardine slime all over alt.hackers.malicious if
the shoe were on this foot. There's absolutely no doubt about that.
You hypocritical prune.
ggamble
>
>next you'll be claiming that he has a job that pays him more than $600 dollars a
>month!
In context, I think the correct terminology is "six hundred dollars
worth of money". If you know what I mean, and I think you do!
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Renay says...
>> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
>> >>>
>> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>> >>>
>> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>> >>>
>> >>> this post does answer the question
>> >>
>> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
>you are
>> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
>> >
>> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
>> >
>> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
>heckler
>> >> status. Those that can't...
>> >
>> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
>>
>> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
>
>Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI check
>to keep you floating.
oh, please, dockery, i make 4 times what you make in month AND i get to sit at
PC and make fun of you all day while i do it. my wine collection is worth more
than what you make in an entire year.
as the big green chuckles rhino horn is growing out of your forehead
>BTW, when are you sending the grand you owe me, since you lost our
>wager of a few days ago?
you said i didn't owe you any money, cracker-drunky, so i won't be paying you
anything. if you are unable to keep your mouth shut in a state of stupid
drunkeness, that's not my fault.
heh...
jona...@unlikelystories.org
Dockery?
Chuckles.
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> >> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
> >> >>>
> >> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> this post does answer the question
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
> >you are
> >> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
> >> >
> >> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
> >> >
> >> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
> >heckler
> >> >> status. Those that can't...
> >> >
> >> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
> >>
> >> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
> >
> >Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI
check
> >to keep you floating.
>
> oh, please, dockery, i make 4 times what you make in month
And that means *what* on a poetry newsgroup where you have no poetry?
I'll give you a clue- it means nothing.
> you said i didn't owe you any money
And you don't. The fact that you lost the bet was enough for me.
--
"Mirror Twins" [Will dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
"God Smiles/Sleepy Lizard Girl" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/26000/26881/preview/Irony_Waves_-_Track__5.mp3
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be handicapped
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> this post does answer the question
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever sex
>> >you are
>> >> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
>> >> >
>> >> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
>> >> >
>> >> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter jeering
>> >heckler
>> >> >> status. Those that can't...
>> >> >
>> >> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
>> >>
>> >> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
>> >
>> >Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI
>check
>> >to keep you floating.
>>
>> oh, please, dockery, i make 4 times what you make in month
>
>And that means *what* on a poetry newsgroup where you have no poetry?
>I'll give you a clue- it means nothing.
you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time telling
yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and you keep
telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
you wrap yourself up in a laughable and pathetic self-mythology to drown the
truth that you're not anything special, dockery, just a sad old drunk who has to
work very hard at telling himself lies. "no one's laughing at me! no one thinks
i'm a pathetic fool! i'm important!" your sense of self-delusion might be even
more refined than chuckles, and that's no small accomplishment.
having a lot more money than you does make me better than you, dockery. because
i don't have to sit in my ratty-ass apartment, drinking furniture polish and
telling myself gargantuan lies all day just so i can survive to the next moment
without killing myself. that alone makes me your superior. of course if you want
(and need) to nurse the comical idea that anyone would trade places with you, go
ahead. i'm sure that and the booze is the only thing that keeps you going.
>> you said i didn't owe you any money
>
>And you don't. The fact that you lost the bet was enough for me.
then why are you now demanding the money? did you forget what you said to me
earlier? the good bet is that in a drunken stupor you forgot. you always do. and
you didn't find what i was asking for. but i'm sure in your made-up world you
feel as though you did.
Will Dockery
I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I think
I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I do
exactly what I want, when I want.
Even with the "job" I have, at Pizza Roma, I've trimmed the hours down
to two, at most, three days a week, and then mostly "advertising",
passing out flyers. This gig is perfect for my current needs: pays the
bills, I meet hundreds of people a week, and I have the freedom to
write and perform.
As long as I have enough cash to stay out of prison, I'm set.
--
"Fawn Greyhound" by W. Dockery/produced by R. H. King
http://www.lulu.com/items/26000/26968/preview/Track__3.mp3
"Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery/produced by B. Fowler
http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
j r sherman
says...
>
>> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
>telling
>> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and you
>keep
>> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
>
>I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I think
>I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I do
>exactly what I want, when I want.
again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your meaningless
life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life because if
you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and continue to
have.
you're whole "rebel street poet" pose is a comical lie you tell yourself to keep
the truth at bay. so is your alcoholism and drug abuse. if you actually faced
the reality of your life, you'd kill yourself immediately.
>Even with the "job" I have, at Pizza Roma, I've trimmed the hours down
>to two, at most, three days a week, and then mostly "advertising",
>passing out flyers. This gig is perfect for my current needs: pays the
>bills, I meet hundreds of people a week, and I have the freedom to
>write and perform.
perform being the key word here, dockery. your whole life is nothing but a
pathetic performance to keep reality away.
>As long as I have enough cash to stay out of prison, I'm set.
my god, how ambitious you are. even the most pathetic people strive to do
something better than that.
the highest goal you've set for yourself is to stay out of prison? do you
actually feel that a wasted life is something others should strive for?
yes, you probably do.
Will Dockery
> Will Dockery says...
>
> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
> >telling
> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
you
> >keep
> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
> >
> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
think
> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
do
> >exactly what I want, when I want.
>
> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
meaningless
> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
because if
> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
continue to
> have.
Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
heckler. You haven't posted a poem here in years [from a look in the
archives, I noticed when you *did* post poetry here, 1997 or so, it was
always smacked down, so its understandable that you're afraid to post
peotry these days], and can't even manage any worthwhile poetry
commentary.
All the archives show of the life and works of JR Sherman are the
bitter jeers of a possible cripple, and some jokes about the rape of
women and children.
And, of course, JRS, your obsessive interest in my life in full swing
again, is noted and archived.
> you're whole "rebel street poet" pose is a comical lie
Ah, admit you lost the bet, and keep the grand you owe me--- buy
yourself a new wheelchair or something, pal.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
If anyone needs a wheelchair, Dodgeweave Duck, it's you. You've spent
weeks (you're into your fifth week now) dead-horse-beating JR's "joke"
and you still don't have a leg to stand on. Be a man and move on.
--
Cm~
j r sherman
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Will Dockery says...
>>
>> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
>> >telling
>> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
>you
>> >keep
>> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
>> >
>> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
>think
>> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
>do
>> >exactly what I want, when I want.
>>
>> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
>meaningless
>> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
>because if
>> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
>continue to
>> have.
>
>Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
>heckler.
heh! big deal! you're a pathetic, drunken joke! anyway you cut it, dockery, i
garner more respect in this newsgroup than you ever will. and that pisses you
off to no end.
>You haven't posted a poem here in years
in your stupidity and your drunkeness you are, as usual, wrong. i posted a poem
here a couple of weeks ago. but since you're only interested in reading about
yourself, you didn't see it.
it's in the archives. why don't you try and find it? heh.
>All the archives show of the life and works of JR Sherman are the
>bitter jeers of a possible cripple, and some jokes about the rape of
>women and children.
and a real job that pays me real money, a 19 year old girlfriend, friends who
enjoy my humor, people who find my posts funny!
i can be a completely deplorable person here, dockery, and i still garner more
respect in one week than you've received in your entire time on usenet. i think
that's great!
>And, of course, JRS, your obsessive interest in my life in full swing
>again, is noted and archived.
why not answer my question? how come you feel being a stupid drunk is something
one should aspire to?
>> you're whole "rebel street poet" pose is a comical lie
>
>Ah, admit you lost the bet, and keep the grand you owe me--- buy
>yourself a new wheelchair or something, pal.
heh. did you know that i can walk out the front door of where i work and be
standing in one of the most vibrant cities in the world, while you look out your
window to the garbage cans in the alley?
god, admit it, dockery! if anyone were given the choice to trade place with my
life, or yours, who's life do you think any living human being would choose?
hell, it's not even a question.
so have another drink, drunky, it's the only thing you aspire to!
heh...
Will Dockery
> >> Will Dockery says...
> >>
> >> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
> >> >telling
> >> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
> >you
> >> >keep
> >> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
> >> >
> >> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
> >think
> >> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
> >do
> >> >exactly what I want, when I want.
> >>
> >> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
> >meaningless
> >> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
> >because if
> >> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
> >continue to
> >> have.
> >
> >Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
> >heckler.
>
> heh! big deal!
No, not such a big deal at all, gimpy one. Quite a small deal, actually.
You're a low life little heckler, who rather than posting poetry here,
instead posts jokes about the rape of children. Your pals, such as Karla,
may shrug and look the other way, but they're archives, as is your disgrace.
Cripped on the inside, if not the outside.
--
"But, truly, I have wept too much! The Dawns are heartbreaking. Every moon
is atrocious and every sun bitter..." -Arthur Rimbaud
Will Dockery's Zorro video:
<http://www.kannibaal.nl>
Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
<http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
j r sherman
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery says...
>> >>
>> >> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
>> >> >telling
>> >> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
>> >you
>> >> >keep
>> >> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
>> >think
>> >> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
>> >do
>> >> >exactly what I want, when I want.
>> >>
>> >> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
>> >meaningless
>> >> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
>> >because if
>> >> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
>> >continue to
>> >> have.
>> >
>> >Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
>> >heckler.
>>
>> heh! big deal!
>
>No, not such a big deal at all, gimpy one. Quite a small deal, actually.
indeed, now that i have informed you of what a joke you are by taking this
usenet crap seriously, of course this is your response.
you're not very smart, dockery, and you're very transparent.
>You're a low life little heckler, who rather than posting poetry here,
>instead posts jokes about the rape of children.
who the fuck do you think is reading you, huh, dockery? you write this as if you
suffer the laughable delusion that people are following your every word.
no one gives a fuck, you stupid, drunken moron.
and the only people who are reading your embarrassments are people who wish to
laugh at you.
>Your pals, such as Karla,
>may shrug and look the other way, but they're archives, as is your disgrace.
you mean archived, you stupid, drunken, southern imbecile.
and again i say, you self-importantly produce this little factoid about the
"archives" as if it held some power, as if it mattered. as if someone besides
yourself cared.
no one cares, dockery. because they don't take this seriously.
and can't you get that through your tragically moronic, booze-soaked brain? is
your life such a parody of a real life that you actually believe what goes on
here is "important?"
if you ever gave up drinking in the morning, your life might actually be worth
something.
Will Dockery
Serious or not in your opinion, you made the jokes. Karla and the rest of
your foul company can look the other way, but it'll remain archived what a
vile little gimp you are.
Dozens of other posts are also archived.
> you're not very smart
Smart enough not to make jokes about the rape of children, JRS.
Whether you're *serious* or not about Usenet, or the name "J.R. Sherman", or
child rape doesn't really matter... the archives record you as a vile, and
serious, little man.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <will_d...@knology.net> said:
Translation: "Please, JR, please be scared. Please! Please! Please!"
--
Cm~
j r sherman
no shit, drunky-cracker! but the only person who seems outraged is you. and your
outrage is so transparent and fake that it makes others howl with laughter.
are you absolutely hell-bent on embarrassing yourself even further?
and the answer is, yes!
>Karla and the rest of
>your foul company can look the other way, but it'll remain archived what a
>vile little gimp you are.
who cares, dockery? who in the hell fucking cares? it's meaningless, and a great
metaphor for your life!
i am "archived" (and say that with laughable self importance, dockery) for
telling bad jokes in usenet!
christ, if i had a dollar for every time i've done that, i could retire.
and it means absolutely nothing, you clueless drunk! can't you understand that?
>Dozens of other posts are also archived.
i'm gonna break a rib laughing, i swear to god.
>> you're not very smart
>
>Smart enough not to make jokes about the rape of children, JRS.
good for you, dockery. who cares? i certainly don't. and you only enjoy acting
like you care.
for christ's sake, dockery, are you ever going to stop looking stupid?
>Whether you're *serious* or not about Usenet, or the name "J.R. Sherman", or
>child rape doesn't really matter... the archives record you as a vile, and
>serious, little man.
no they don't. they don't at all, you stupid, simpering loser. none of this
matters.
god, how fucking drunk are you today?
Will Dockery
Yeah, really.
> >Karla and the rest of
> >your foul company can look the other way, but it'll remain archived
what a
> >vile little gimp you are.
>
> who cares, dockery?
Raped women and children care, to name a few.
The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
So, if your foul company don't care about it, that's not my problem, I
guess. Cally on, my gimpy little troll.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
Dockery: "I've got a rock. It's a blue rock and it's shiney. And it must
mean something because it's blue and shiney. And I'm gonna hold onto it
forever because it's blue and shiney and means something. And I'm going
to show it to everyone over and over because it's blue and it's shiney
and it means something. People will fear me because I have a rock."
--
Cm~
Will Dockery
"Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote
A cat with a rock, pretending to be Dockery.
I'm not drunk enough!
j r sherman
>
>> who cares, dockery?
>
>Raped women and children care, to name a few.
i have heard no complaints.
>The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
really? where are they?
you're so transparent, dockery.
just so stupid and transparent.
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> Will Dockery says...
>
> >> who cares, dockery?
> >
> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
>
> i have heard no complaints.
>
> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
>
> really? where are they?
All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
Karla
>I meet hundreds of people a week
I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
Karla
--
--------------------------------------
"I stand between two worlds. I am at home in neither,
and I suffer in consequence...As I write the sea
whispers to me and I close my eyes. I am looking into
a world unborn and formless that needs to be ordered
and shaped; I see into a whir of shadows of human
figures who beckon to me to weave spells to redeem
them: tragic and laughable figures and some that
are both together--and to these I am drawn."
from Tonio Kroger
by Thomas Mann
Karla
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Will Dockery says...
>>
>> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
>> >telling
>> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
>you
>> >keep
>> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
>> >
>> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
>think
>> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
>do
>> >exactly what I want, when I want.
>>
>> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
>meaningless
>> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
>because if
>> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
>continue to
>> have.
>
>Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
>heckler.
Dockery, Dockery... How many times must we tell you, usenet is not real life!
Sure, j r keeps up this bad guy facade but here in San Francisco he's known as
Schindler and his home is known as The List. j r would have you think he's
all about party, party, party and Vegas show girls and models but j r has a
heart of gold second only to Ms. Bettina. Sure, he makes oodles of money and
that's very important to him, but do you really think he'd have the pure and
undefiled devotion of working girls if it was just about money? His List
provides shelter, food, counseling for battery, abuse, rape and incest
victims. There's an out-sourced school where the working girls actually learn
to work and maintain a legal lifestyle. I am sure you wondered why we
tittered everytime j r referenced his "I'm the gift who keeps on giving" and
now you know the answer.
j r, I know you wanted this kept on the down-low but I don't know what else
will jerk Dockery from his delusion that typing up stories in usenet isn't
real life.
All hail j r schindler! The new hedonist of the twenty-first century!!
Karla
--
--------------------------------------
"I stand between two worlds. I am at home in neither,
and I suffer in consequence...As I write the sea
whispers to me and I close my eyes. I am looking into
a world unborn and formless that needs to be ordered
and shaped; I see into a whir of shadows of human
figures who beckon to me to weave spells to redeem
them: tragic and laughable figures and some that
are both together--and to these I am drawn."
from Tonio Kroger
by Thomas Mann
Karla
wrote:
The archives also record our daily, sometimes hourly sessions of reality
therapy with you. Dockery, usenet is not real life. You should be happy
about this. In real life, you could probably turn yourself around, respect
yourself and find respect. While here on usenet, you're the guy with his
pants around his ankles and the "kick me" tattoo on his butt.
Karla
wrote:
>j r sherman wrote:
Ever hear a bad singer, possibly a friend, stand up and humiate himself? I
have. And the only looking away I do is when you wave your bare ass around
with the "kick me" sign. It's embarrassing as hell to know that you get off
on this, Dockery. Even DHS knew you were being trolled. Pull your pants up,
boy.
Will Dockery
"Karla" <kar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
> On 9 May 2005 10:13:17 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >j r sherman wrote:
> >>
> >> >> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
> >> >telling
> >> >> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and
> >you
> >> >keep
> >> >> telling yourself you're something more important than you are.
> >> >
> >> >I don't pay any attention to what the other people do, or have. I
> >think
> >> >I've made it clear through the years, here and in "real life" that I
> >do
> >> >exactly what I want, when I want.
> >>
> >> again, i'm sure you tell yourself this to asuage the truth of your
> >meaningless
> >> life. you magnify ever tiny pathetic event in your meaningless life
> >because if
> >> you didn't, you would realize what a wasted life you've had, and
> >continue to
> >> have.
> >
> >Heh. Meanwhile, your life *here* is nothing but that of a jeering
> >heckler.
>
> Dockery, Dockery... How many times must we tell you, usenet is not real
life!
None. Usenet is an *echo* of real life.
Karla
wrote:
>
And the archives record that Dockery turns his head at real life. I'll post
it again for you, Dockery:
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Will Dockery says...
>>
>> >> who cares, dockery?
>> >
>> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
>>
>> i have heard no complaints.
>>
>> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
>>
>> really? where are they?
>
>All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
how come they haven't complained?
the only one whining is you.
Will Dockery
"Karla" wrote
> On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I meet hundreds of people a week
>
> I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
> people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
Damn, Karla, you're confused again. I work for Pizza Roma, but not delivery.
I haven't done delivery for a few months, now.
Re-read the post you *snipped*, again.
Will Dockery
"Karla" <kar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
> On Mon, 9 May 2005 17:58:25 -0400, "Will Dockery" > >> On 9 May 2005
This ain't San Francisco, babe. This is Shadowville.
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote > says...
> >> Will Dockery says...
> >>
> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> >> >
> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> >>
> >> i have heard no complaints.
> >>
> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
> >>
> >> really? where are they?
> >
> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
>
> how come they haven't complained?
Because this isn't "real life"?
Will Dockery
"Karla" <kar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
On Usenet, Karla is the person that shrugged and looked the other way, and
gave her approval by silence to jokes about the rape of women and children.
So giggle and applaud, Karla, and throw your "Caring For Others" into a
handbasket to Hell.
Admit it or not, your disgrace will remain, in the archives.
----
From: Karla (kar...@sbcglobal.net)
Subject: Karla / Caring for Others (draft)
View this article only
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Date: 2005-03-01 22:21:02 PST
Caring for Others
Vestibule smelling of old potpourri,
coat hooks above a mash of rubber,
and in one corner, a tumbled umbrella.
Flocked wallpaper, deep blue,
electric candle sconces along the walls,
shadow couch and shadow pillows. The nameless
little boy coughed every time I babysat,
unwiped snot globs ready to drip,
pale slits magnified behind wires
as if to say 'you can't make me'. Which,
of course, I did when bedtime came.
Finding his sister unchanged,
facing away, screamed, three short shouts,
as I pulled off corduroys, sweater, knee highs.
And one long yelp when I smashed
her gold curls into the daisy nightgown.
I didn't think about that when their father pulled
to the side of the road, after 2 a.m., retched,
resumed the zigzag drive. I didn't think about
the money, the "thank you, see you again.' In the morning,
our parents exchanged phone calls. I thought it would end.
But the next time, and two more times after that, I slept
overnight, playing sentry. Low in the den, lightly breathing,
the sour smell of a white wash closed in.
I didn't think about why he'd left a row of romances,
covers, cousins of palpable bosoms, harsh gasping men
tonguing an ear, gouging a waist. Dirty books, I thumbed them,
chapter after chapter ending in mysteries: "I felt him move."
Swallow stuck in my throat, each time I turned a page,
belonged to this house, like the bathroom upstairs, tinkling,
unstoppered, slipping. Or a car door opening. Vomit.
After I pulled her right arm, then left, through each sleeve,
ponied her yellow hair and pulled it free, I took a comb
to an inch of ends just above her waist. Combed to her wails.
Combed the dry crackle, doll hair dead. Combed the waste
of length, brambled and twisting. A gold labyrinth, the teeth
pursuing the beast, moan after moan. I combed her hair free
and tucked her in, thinking, I'd done a good job.
Karla
----
You don't care, Karla, but some do. I do.
j r sherman
OHHHHH yes, that one was a water-spitter, Ms. Karla!
heh...
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
>
>On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I meet hundreds of people a week
>
>I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
>people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>
>The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
>
>Karla
a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
how do you "meet" people delivering pizza? some guy brings you pizza. you pay
him. you close the door.
indeed, tragic. but comedic as well! :)
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote > says...
>> >> Will Dockery says...
>> >>
>> >> >> who cares, dockery?
>> >> >
>> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
>> >>
>> >> i have heard no complaints.
>> >>
>> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
>> >>
>> >> really? where are they?
>> >
>> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
>>
>> how come they haven't complained?
>
>Because this isn't "real life"?
then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
what a dope you are, dockery.
j r sherman
thank god no one else but you lives there!
Will Dockery
> >> >>
> >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> >> >>
> >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> >> >>
> >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
> >> >>
> >> >> really? where are they?
> >> >
> >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> >>
> >> how come they haven't complained?
> >
> >Because this isn't "real life"?
>
> then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
Will Dockery
Yeah, I dig the peace and quiet.
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >> >> Will Dockery says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i have heard no complaints.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> really? where are they?
>> >> >
>> >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
>> >>
>> >> how come they haven't complained?
>> >
>> >Because this isn't "real life"?
>>
>> then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
>
>Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
then don't read them, you stupid drunken fuck. it's just that simple.
christ, dockery, you must expect the entire world to do your thinking for you,
because you sure as hell aren't interested in doing any yourself.
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" wrote
> >> >> >> Will Dockery says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few
more.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> really? where are they?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> >> >>
> >> >> how come they haven't complained?
> >> >
> >> >Because this isn't "real life"?
> >>
> >> then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
> >
> >Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
>
> then don't read them
Then don't write me, you gimpy child rape piss drinking obsessive.
But, as the archives show, you were obsessed with these matters *long*
before I came along:
J.R. Sherman's fascination with child rape:
http://groups.google.es/groups?q=%22j+r+sherman%22+%22rape%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d
J.R. Sherman's urine drinking fetish:
http://groups.google.es/groups?q=%22j+r+sherman%22+%22urine%22&hl=en&lr=
You're one sick little gimp, eh?
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <will_d...@knology.net> said:
Whoosh!
--
Cm~
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <will_d...@knology.net> said:
>
> "j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > >> >> Will Dockery says...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few more.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> really? where are they?
> > >> >
> > >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> > >>
> > >> how come they haven't complained?
> > >
> > >Because this isn't "real life"?
> >
> > then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
>
> Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
<snicker> Like anyone cares.
--
Cm~
Will Dockery
Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > > >> >> Will Dockery says...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a
few more.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> really? where are they?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> > > >>
> > > >> how come they haven't complained?
> > > >
> > > >Because this isn't "real life"?
> > >
> > > then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
> >
> > Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
>
> <snicker> Like anyone cares.
Do you like jokes about child rape, Cat?
Will Dockery
J.R. Sherman exposes his fascination with child rape?
So much for your hypocritical "caring for others", Karla.
I've just re-read your poem:
----
From: Karla (kar...@sbcglobal.net)
Subject: Karla / Caring for Others (draft)
Caring for Others
Karla
----
And noticed you apparently shrugged and turned away in *that*
situation, as well: "...thinking, I'd done a good job."
You turned your head to the abuse of rape victims by J.R. Sherman, just
as you did on that long ago night when you saw the evidence of child
abuse.
"thinking, I'd done a good job."- and you turned your head.
Just as you have now, Karla.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <will_d...@knology.net> said:
>
> "j r sherman" wrote
> > >> >> >> Will Dockery says...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few
> more.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> really? where are they?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> how come they haven't complained?
> > >> >
> > >> >Because this isn't "real life"?
> > >>
> > >> then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
> > >
> > >Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
> >
> > then don't read them
>
> Then don't write me, you gimpy child rape piss drinking obsessive.
>
> But, as the archives show, you were obsessed with these matters *long*
> before I came along:
>
> J.R. Sherman's fascination with child rape:
> http://groups.google.es/groups?q=%22j+r+sherman%22+%22rape%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d
J R Sherman's fascination just isn't there.
Will Dockery's is, but JR's isn't.
> J.R. Sherman's urine drinking fetish:
> http://groups.google.es/groups?q=%22j+r+sherman%22+%22urine%22&hl=en&lr=
(see comment above)
> You're one sick little gimp, eh?
"I have heard
That guilty creatures sitting at a play
Have by the very cunning of the scene
Been struck so to the soul, that presently
They have proclaimed their malefactions."
-- from William Shakespeare's /Hamlet/
--
Cm~
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > > > >> >> Will Dockery says...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> i have heard no complaints.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a
> few more.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> really? where are they?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> how come they haven't complained?
> > > > >
> > > > >Because this isn't "real life"?
> > > >
> > > > then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
> > >
> > > Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
> >
> > <snicker> Like anyone cares.
>
> Do you like jokes about child rape, Cat?
I like many kinds of jokes, Dodgeweave Duck, as most people do,
including jokes considered taboo; however, when I do hear a joke
that doesn't strike me right I don't freak-out like some little
old prudish church lady because I don't have a holier-than-thou
stick shoved my ass as you so obviously do. Get over it, baby.
--
Cm~
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> Karla says...
> >
> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> >
> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
hundreds of
> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> >
> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
>
You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't deliver
these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by passing
out flyers.
I haven't delivered a pizza for a few months, now.
In fact, I don't work at all except for Fridays, Saturdays, and when I
need some cash, Sundays.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> j r sherman wrote:
> > Karla says...
> > >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> > >
> > >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> > >
> > >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
> hundreds of
> > >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> > >
> > >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
> >
> > a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
>
> You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't deliver
> these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by passing
> out flyers.
In my town, the homeless are hired to do that.
> I haven't delivered a pizza for a few months, now.
No car, eh? Too broke to buy one?
Or not allowed by law to drive one?
> In fact, I don't work at all except for Fridays, Saturdays, and when I
> need some cash, Sundays.
Welfare takes care of the rest, no doubt.
--
Cm~
Karla
>And noticed you apparently shrugged and turned away in *that*
>situation, as well: "...thinking, I'd done a good job."
Ya, funny how clueless I was at 14.
>You turned your head to the abuse of rape victims by J.R. Sherman
This is a lie. I turned my head away as he usenet raped you. That is all.
> just
>as you did on that long ago night when you saw the evidence of child
>abuse.
Ya, I didn't know but in God's eyes, I may still be accountable. I trust that
he'll forgive me.
>"thinking, I'd done a good job."- and you turned your head.
Wouldn't say that. I spoke up about the drunkenness but I didn't know enough
to connect it to any abuse. And of course, stupid Dockery, there might not
have been any abuse - she just had messed up, tangled hair, idiot.
>Just as you have now, Karla.
The kick me on your arse is hard to miss, but I turn away from the frequent
kickings to real life quite often. Tis true.
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
> fascination with child rape
--
Cm~
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" wrote
>> >> >> >> Will Dockery says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> who cares, dockery?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Raped women and children care, to name a few.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> i have heard no complaints.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >The families of raped women and children care, to name a few
>more.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> really? where are they?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >All over the world, my little Irish gimp.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> how come they haven't complained?
>> >> >
>> >> >Because this isn't "real life"?
>> >>
>> >> then what is the problem with my rape jokes?
>> >
>> >Easy answer, JRS: I don't like 'em.
>>
>> then don't read them
>
>Then don't write me, you gimpy child rape piss drinking obsessive.
i have never sent you and email in my life, dockery. if you don't like what i
post in this newsgroup, then don't read what i post.
but as a side note, i want to see how much more stupid you can get. i'm sure
you'll help me out here.
j r sherman
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Karla says...
>> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>> >
>> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
>> >
>> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
>hundreds of
>> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>> >
>> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
>>
>> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
>
>You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't deliver
>these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by passing
>out flyers.
you pass out flyers?
that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers? this is what
you do for a living? this is your profession? this is the work that you do?
you stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
you are deeply proud of this achievement? standing on street corners and passing
out flyers?
>I haven't delivered a pizza for a few months, now.
you have a position that's even more pathetic than delivering pizza and you're
proud of this?
you tell people this in a public forum?
that you pass out flyers?
>In fact, I don't work at all except for Fridays, Saturdays, and when I
>need some cash, Sundays.
god, i hope Gary sees this one.
you stand on street corners and pass out pieces of paper to people who wouldn't
want to get near you if their lives depended on it.
and you actually post this fact about your life as if it was something someone
would want to aspire to?
you have a job that makes Pizza delivery look like a noble profession, a job
that doesn't even need to be done by a human being, and you actually insist on
telling others about it, as if you're proud of it?
boy are you more pathetic than anyone could have possibly imagined.
have they just branded the letter L in your forehead so that it will be there
for all time?
Barbara's Cat
Barbara's Cat
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:
> j r sherman wrote:
> > Karla says...
> > >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> > >
> > >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> > >
> > >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
> hundreds of
> > >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> > >
> > >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
> >
> > a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
>
> You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't deliver
> these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by passing
> out flyers.
Will Dockery negotiating power-deals at his business meetings:
"Would you like a flyer, ma'am? There's a '10% Off' coupon on it."
"Hey, dude, take a flyer. Cool. Peace out <fingers peace sign>."
"Excuse me, sir, but would you like a flyer for Pizza Roma pizza?"
"Hey, babe, how about a flyer? BTW, what's a cool chick like..."
--
Cm~
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> >> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> >> >
> >> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
> >hundreds of
> >> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> >> >
> >> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
> >>
> >> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
> >
> >You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't
deliver
> >these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by
passing
> >out flyers.
>
> you pass out flyers?
>
> that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
No, I don't stand around. I wrote about this, a couple of months ago,
you could've picked up on it then:
----
From: Will Dockery
Subject: Re: Will Dockery Lampoons by Michael Cook
View: Complete Thread (186 articles)
Date: 2005-03-26 10:11:47 PST
Michael Cook wrote:
> "ggamble" <f...@net-kooks.com> wrote in message
> news:6m4b419d5agnbvmp2...@4ax.com...
> > On 26 Mar 2005 08:25:05 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> fact
> >>poet
> >> poet
> >> work.
> >>
> Wont help, he will not get it.
> It's the booze and drugs ya know
So, Michael... you never drink or use drugs?
I've done both, and will most likely continue... right now my drugs of
choice are cigarettes and coffee.
The weekends are my worktimes, meaning my weekdays are actually the
weekend, so no time for getting high this afternoon.
But, if on my wanderings, passing out Pizza Roma and Soprano's Pizza
flyers, partying GIs offer a shot or a beer, then I'll be honored to
partake... using my "people skills" is a major part of the gig.
Last night, after walking for several miles through Benning, talking up
the "hand tossed, brick oven, secret sauce" products of my comrades, as
well as inviting the Warriors down to SoHo for music and free pool, I
met up with a kid named Matt, who had just got his wings in Airborne
School, and was enjoying the spring evening on the balcony of Olsen
Hall.
He's from upstate New York, and was hoping that he could get some real
pizza, to ease the obvious homesickness he had, sipping rum and staring
into the sky that he belongs to now as much as the birds.
A short cigarette break to lean over the balcony and ease my aching
back turned into a running autobiography from Matt, who by this point
had fixed me a stiff drink of Captain Morgan and red Mountain Dew...
his story is a good one, everything from his vacation is Spain, to the
funeral of Reagan he attended as an honor gaurd, the time the Sergent
Major busted his balls when after standing for eight hours he was so
bleary that he didn't recognise Bush walking by with his dog, to the
proper way to leap from the plane, pull the ripcord and land without
breaking every bone in your body, the sad story of the fellow student,
a beautiful girl who died recently when her chute was faulty, and on
and on.
Anyway, no time to get drunk or stoned... *yet*. That might come
*after* I arrive to do my job, but not just yet.
"One more cup of coffee for the road..."
It's good to be King.
----
So, that's what I do, these days, and it works for me.
--
Shadowville/Netherlands project:
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
"Fawn Greyhound" [Will Dockery]
http://www.lulu.com/items/26000/26968/preview/Track__3.mp3
PJR
> "Karla" wrote
>> On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I meet hundreds of people a week
>>
>> I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
>> people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>
> Damn, Karla, you're confused again. I work for Pizza Roma, but not delivery.
Drunken driving?
PJR :-)
--
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Will Dockery
> >> On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >>
> >> >I meet hundreds of people a week
> >>
> >> people while delivering pizzas????
> >
>
> Drunken driving?
Heh. I actually don't drink as much as the image you and your gang have
created of me would have it, Boss:
----
From: Will Dockery
Subject: Re: Will Dockery Lampoons by Michael Cook
View: Complete Thread (186 articles)
Date: 2005-03-26 10:11:47 PST
Michael Cook wrote:
--
PJR
> drink
> drink
> drugs?
> drugs
> getting high
> a shot or a beer
> rum
> a stiff drink
> drunk
> stoned...
Will Dockery
PJR wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 May 2005, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > drink
>
> > drink
>
> > drugs?
>
> > drugs
>
> > getting high
>
> > a shot or a beer
>
> > rum
>
> > a stiff drink
>
> > drunk
>
> > stoned...
Damn, Boss, now yer making me wanna spike my coffee with Captain Morgan
and smoke a joint...
j r sherman
>
>On Monday 09 May 2005, Will Dockery wrote in rec.arts.poems:
>
>> "Karla" wrote
>>> On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I meet hundreds of people a week
>>>
>>> I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
>>> people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>>
>> Damn, Karla, you're confused again. I work for Pizza Roma, but not delivery.
>
>Drunken driving?
>
>
>PJR :-)
he hands out flyers, Pete.
he gives people pieces of paper as they pass him on a street corner.
he doesn't go to school. he doesn't have a second job.
he hands out flyers to people as they pass him on a street corner.
he is content with that. nay, even more frightening, he's rather proud of it.
proud of passing out flyers.
it's not like: "hey, i needed a job, the kids are starving (if hadn't abandoned
them already, which he did), and i had to do something, but i don't plan on
doing this forever!"
no, with dockery, it's more like: "i have a great job! i pass out flyers all
day! it's just a great job! imgaine the respect i must get!"
i think i've heard it all.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>PJR wrote:
>> On Tuesday 10 May 2005, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > drink
>>
>> > drink
>>
>> > drugs?
>>
>> > drugs
>>
>> > getting high
>>
>> > a shot or a beer
>>
>> > rum
>>
>> > a stiff drink
>>
>> > drunk
>>
>> > stoned...
>
>Damn, Boss, now yer making me wanna spike my coffee with Captain Morgan
>and smoke a joint...
you hand out flyers, dockery.
you are proud of this, and you see nothing wrong with it.
you consider this a noble profession, worthy of your intellectual abilities.
you hand out flyers.
j r sherman
says...
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
>> >> >
>> >> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
>> >hundreds of
>> >> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>> >> >
>> >> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
>> >>
>> >> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
>> >
>> >You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't
>deliver
>> >these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by
>passing
>> >out flyers.
>>
>> you pass out flyers?
>>
>> that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
>
>No, I don't stand around. I wrote about this, a couple of months ago,
>you could've picked up on it then:
gosh, i don't know why i didn't.
>So, Michael... you never drink or use drugs?
>
>I've done both, and will most likely continue... right now my drugs of
>choice are cigarettes and coffee.
because you can't afford alcohol unless someone else is buying it for you?
>The weekends are my worktimes, meaning my weekdays are actually the
>weekend, so no time for getting high this afternoon.
>
>But, if on my wanderings, passing out Pizza Roma and Soprano's Pizza
>flyers, partying GIs offer a shot or a beer, then I'll be honored to
>partake... using my "people skills" is a major part of the gig.
so you take to pretty much begging to supplement your alcoholism?
no fall from respect there, right, dockery?
>Last night, after walking for several miles through Benning, talking up
>the "hand tossed, brick oven, secret sauce" products of my comrades, as
>well as inviting the Warriors down to SoHo for music and free pool, I
>met up with a kid named Matt, who had just got his wings in Airborne
>School, and was enjoying the spring evening on the balcony of Olsen
>Hall.
>
>He's from upstate New York, and was hoping that he could get some real
>pizza, to ease the obvious homesickness he had, sipping rum and staring
>into the sky that he belongs to now as much as the birds.
>
>A short cigarette break to lean over the balcony and ease my aching
>back turned into a running autobiography from Matt, who by this point
>had fixed me a stiff drink of Captain Morgan and red Mountain Dew...
>his story is a good one, everything from his vacation is Spain, to the
>funeral of Reagan he attended as an honor gaurd, the time the Sergent
>Major busted his balls when after standing for eight hours he was so
>bleary that he didn't recognise Bush walking by with his dog, to the
>proper way to leap from the plane, pull the ripcord and land without
>breaking every bone in your body, the sad story of the fellow student,
>a beautiful girl who died recently when her chute was faulty, and on
>and on.
>
>Anyway, no time to get drunk or stoned... *yet*. That might come
>*after* I arrive to do my job, but not just yet.
>
>"One more cup of coffee for the road..."
>
>It's good to be King.
dockery, you hand out flyers.
this is your job. you don't do anything else.
you wander around, looking for free booze, and hand out flyers.
and you think your life is good, how?
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >> >> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
> >> >hundreds of
> >> >> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
> >> >>
> >> >> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
> >> >
> >> >You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't
> >deliver
> >> >these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by
> >passing
> >> >out flyers.
> >>
> >> you pass out flyers?
> >>
> >> that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
> >
> >No, I don't stand around. I wrote about this, a couple of months ago,
> >you could've picked up on it then:
>
> gosh, i don't know why i didn't.
Maybe you were out tooling around in your new electric wheelchair?
> >So, Michael... you never drink or use drugs?
> >
> >I've done both, and will most likely continue... right now my drugs of
> >choice are cigarettes and coffee.
>
> because you can't afford alcohol unless someone else is buying it for you?
Because cigarettes and coffee, and sometimes a good joint, are usually the
best for these hours of the day.
> >The weekends are my worktimes, meaning my weekdays are actually the
> >weekend, so no time for getting high this afternoon.
> >
> >But, if on my wanderings, passing out Pizza Roma and Soprano's Pizza
> >flyers, partying GIs offer a shot or a beer, then I'll be honored to
> >partake... using my "people skills" is a major part of the gig.
>
> so you take to pretty much begging to supplement your alcoholism?
Nah, I've never begged for anything, since you asked.
Your bitter jeering hatred shines brighter than the sun this morning, JRS.
I'm doing fine down here in my world, but there's more signs every day that
things may not be so rosy in Sherman's World, my little gimpy pal.
> no fall from respect there, right, dockery?
Nope, none at all, JRS.
Also stick 'em behind windshield wipers, tape 'em to apartment and barracks
doors, and leave them at CQ desks at Ranger, Airborne and Infantry
buildings.
Oh yeah, and leave them at motel and hotel lobbies.
It works for me, and that's what counts.
> this is your job. you don't do anything else.
>
> you wander around, looking for free booze, and hand out flyers.
>
> and you think your life is good, how?
Ah, the usual, JRS, I'm writing poems and songs, starting on a new painting
that I dabble with between posts, I'm waiting for my first grandson to be
born practically any minute, now, I'm in fairly good health for my advanced
age... and I'm not disabled.
Though the SSI check might be cool.
How about you?
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >> On Tuesday 10 May 2005, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >> > drink
> >>
> >> > drink
> >>
> >> > drugs?
> >>
> >> > drugs
> >>
> >> > getting high
> >>
> >> > a shot or a beer
> >>
> >> > rum
> >>
> >> > a stiff drink
> >>
> >> > drunk
> >>
> >> > stoned...
> >
> >Damn, Boss, now yer making me wanna spike my coffee with Captain Morgan
> >and smoke a joint...
>
> you hand out flyers, dockery.
>
> you are proud of this, and you see nothing wrong with it.
>
> you consider this a noble profession, worthy of your intellectual
abilities.
>
> you hand out flyers.
Yeah? Other stuff I used to do for money: worked in a lumber yard, two,
actually, Harvey here in Shadowville, and Carolina in Atlanta, a "Millrat"
for almost a decade, and other scattered factory jobs, sold flowers on
streetcorners in Atlanta, and, of course, delivered pizza.
Now I'm passing out flyers for Pizza Roma and Sopranos.
If I had a problem with it, I wouldn't have written about it.
Unlike you, who and what I am is no big secret, filled with phony brags.
The fact that I also produce art music and poetry is no secret either, just
as the fact that you *don't*, isn't.
--
Will Dockery Zorro video:
http://www.kannibal.nl
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >> >> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
>> >> >hundreds of
>> >> >> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
>> >> >>
>> >> >> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
>> >> >
>> >> >You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't
>> >deliver
>> >> >these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by
>> >passing
>> >> >out flyers.
>> >>
>> >> you pass out flyers?
>> >>
>> >> that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
>> >
>> >No, I don't stand around. I wrote about this, a couple of months ago,
>> >you could've picked up on it then:
>>
>> gosh, i don't know why i didn't.
>
>Maybe you were out tooling around in your new electric wheelchair?
what makes you think i have a wheelchair?
>> because you can't afford alcohol unless someone else is buying it for you?
>
>Because cigarettes and coffee, and sometimes a good joint, are usually the
>best for these hours of the day.
yes, but it seems you spend a lot of time hanging around Fort Benning, hoping
someone will buy you a drink, this is why asked.
>> >The weekends are my worktimes, meaning my weekdays are actually the
>> >weekend, so no time for getting high this afternoon.
>> >
>> >But, if on my wanderings, passing out Pizza Roma and Soprano's Pizza
>> >flyers, partying GIs offer a shot or a beer, then I'll be honored to
>> >partake... using my "people skills" is a major part of the gig.
>>
>> so you take to pretty much begging to supplement your alcoholism?
>
>Nah, I've never begged for anything, since you asked.
i see, your begging is something of a passive-aggressive kind of thing. you hang
around Fort Benning, looking so sad and pathetic that someone eventually breaks
down, takes pitty on you, and buys you a drink.
>Your bitter jeering hatred shines brighter than the sun this morning, JRS.
my laughter is louder as well.
you pass out flyers for a living, dockery, and you're proud of that.
it really does explain how you can take pride in your embarrassing video.
>I'm doing fine down here in my world, but there's more signs every day that
>things may not be so rosy in Sherman's World, my little gimpy pal.
how could you know one way or the other, you're never sober?
>> dockery, you hand out flyers.
>
>Also stick 'em behind windshield wipers, tape 'em to apartment and barracks
>doors, and leave them at CQ desks at Ranger, Airborne and Infantry
>buildings.
>
>Oh yeah, and leave them at motel and hotel lobbies.
>It works for me, and that's what counts.
actually, with all that extra time that you have, you could go to school, learn
stuff, maybe get a degree, maybe do something more respectable than passing out
flyers?
>> this is your job. you don't do anything else.
>>
>> you wander around, looking for free booze, and hand out flyers.
>>
>> and you think your life is good, how?
>
>Ah, the usual, JRS, I'm writing poems and songs, starting on a new painting
>that I dabble with between posts, I'm waiting for my first grandson to be
>born practically any minute, now, I'm in fairly good health for my advanced
>age... and I'm not disabled.
you are proud of passing out flyers and begging drinks and you're life is good?
>Though the SSI check might be cool.
something tells me you're getting one of those already.
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >> On Tuesday 10 May 2005, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > drink
>> >>
>> >> > drink
>> >>
>> >> > drugs?
>> >>
>> >> > drugs
>> >>
>> >> > getting high
>> >>
>> >> > a shot or a beer
>> >>
>> >> > rum
>> >>
>> >> > a stiff drink
>> >>
>> >> > drunk
>> >>
>> >> > stoned...
>> >
>> >Damn, Boss, now yer making me wanna spike my coffee with Captain Morgan
>> >and smoke a joint...
>>
>> you hand out flyers, dockery.
>>
>> you are proud of this, and you see nothing wrong with it.
>>
>> you consider this a noble profession, worthy of your intellectual
>abilities.
>>
>> you hand out flyers.
>
>Yeah?
yes. you pass out flyers. or have you forgotten what you do for a living
already.
>Other stuff I used to do for money: worked in a lumber yard,
i express no shock at this revelation of yours.
>two,
>actually, Harvey here in Shadowville, and Carolina in Atlanta, a "Millrat"
>for almost a decade, and other scattered factory jobs, sold flowers on
>streetcorners in Atlanta, and, of course, delivered pizza.
you aspire to so much, dockery.
so let me get this straight. you've done nothing buy menial tasks your whole
life, but mostly you sit around all day, getting drunk and or stoned, dreaming
about great achievments that you will never carry out, and you say your life is
a good one?
>Now I'm passing out flyers for Pizza Roma and Sopranos.
and seemingly very proud of this.
>If I had a problem with it, I wouldn't have written about it.
if you had any human dignity left, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. if did
you not possess a psychopathetic need for attention, you would never told anyone
here about it.
>Unlike you, who and what I am is no big secret, filled with phony brags.
dockery, you're entire life is a pathetic and comical phony brag. your greatest
ambition is to pass out flyers for a pizza parlour and brag about great art
projects you're never going to do.
and this you insist is something called a life?
>The fact that I also produce art music and poetry is no secret either, just
>as the fact that you *don't*, isn't.
you have produced nothing, dockery. all your poetry is older than usenet. you
keep talking about these things you're going to write and do, and they never
appear. the only new thing i've seen you do is a video that's so embarrassing
that any person in their right mind would never let it be seen.
you produce nothing but flyers someone else printed up and call that a
fullfilled life.
i'm sorry if i have to laugh (no i'm not).
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> >> >> >> >On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>I meet hundreds of people a week
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting
> >> >> >hundreds of
> >> >> >> >people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The desperation is tragic. And comedic. bwhahahahha
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> a good catch, Ms. Karla, i had not seen this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You also didn't see that in the same post i wrote that I don't
> >> >deliver
> >> >> >these days, but work with promoting Pizza Roma and Sopranos by
> >> >passing
> >> >> >out flyers.
> >> >>
> >> >> you pass out flyers?
> >> >>
> >> >> that's all you do? stand on a street corner and pass out flyers?
> >> >
> >> >No, I don't stand around. I wrote about this, a couple of months ago,
> >> >you could've picked up on it then:
> >>
> >> gosh, i don't know why i didn't.
> >
> >Maybe you were out tooling around in your new electric wheelchair?
>
> what makes you think i have a wheelchair?
Because your drunken Irish uncle shot your kneecaps out?
> >> because you can't afford alcohol unless someone else is buying it for
you?
> >
> >Because cigarettes and coffee, and sometimes a good joint, are usually
the
> >best for these hours of the day.
>
> yes, but it seems you spend a lot of time hanging around Fort Benning,
hoping
> someone will buy you a drink, this is why asked.
Nope, passing out flyers.
> >> >The weekends are my worktimes, meaning my weekdays are actually the
> >> >weekend, so no time for getting high this afternoon.
> >> >
> >> >But, if on my wanderings, passing out Pizza Roma and Soprano's Pizza
> >> >flyers, partying GIs offer a shot or a beer, then I'll be honored to
> >> >partake... using my "people skills" is a major part of the gig.
> >>
> >> so you take to pretty much begging to supplement your alcoholism?
> >
> >Nah, I've never begged for anything, since you asked.
>
> i see, your begging is something of a passive-aggressive kind of thing.
you hang
> around Fort Benning, looking so sad and pathetic that someone eventually
breaks
> down, takes pitty on you, and buys you a drink.
No, I walk up on a group having a party, hand 'em a flyer for the pizza
joints, talk and joke, and when they pour a drink they hand me one
sometimes.
But that's what Sulzbach pays me for, to promote Pizza Roma and Sopranos,
and I do that, which involves a lot of hanging around and talking to folks.
> >Your bitter jeering hatred shines brighter than the sun this morning,
JRS.
>
> my laughter is louder as well.
Heh. So you claim... your word is shit here, though, as you know.
> you pass out flyers for a living, dockery, and you're proud of that.
>
> it really does explain how you can take pride in your embarrassing video.
Yeah, I'm proud of my work, just as you're proud of your child rape jokes.
> >I'm doing fine down here in my world, but there's more signs every day
that
> >things may not be so rosy in Sherman's World, my little gimpy pal.
>
> how could you know one way or the other, you're never sober?
Again with your obsession with my drinking. Somewhere in the archives
there'll someday be a clue to why you have this obsession. My current
feeling is the simplest: you're the product of a childhood of abuse by
drunkard parents... daddy being Irish American. Heh.
> >> dockery, you hand out flyers.
> >
> >Also stick 'em behind windshield wipers, tape 'em to apartment and
barracks
> >doors, and leave them at CQ desks at Ranger, Airborne and Infantry
> >buildings.
> >
> >Oh yeah, and leave them at motel and hotel lobbies.
>
> >It works for me, and that's what counts.
>
> actually, with all that extra time that you have, you could go to school,
learn
> stuff, maybe get a degree, maybe do something more respectable than
passing out
> flyers?
I've been to school a couple of times, and have thought of returning, now
that my weekdays are freed up so i can concentrate on the music, it would be
interesting to return, if I can dodge the Math classes, which always drive
me away.
Plus, the state has some good student loans and grants for poverty stricken
elderly guys like me... *grin*
> >> this is your job. you don't do anything else.
> >>
> >> you wander around, looking for free booze, and hand out flyers.
> >>
> >> and you think your life is good, how?
> >
> >Ah, the usual, JRS, I'm writing poems and songs, starting on a new
painting
> >that I dabble with between posts, I'm waiting for my first grandson to be
> >born practically any minute, now, I'm in fairly good health for my
advanced
> >age... and I'm not disabled.
>
> you are proud of passing out flyers and begging drinks and you're life is
good?
>
> >Though the SSI check might be cool.
>
> something tells me you're getting one of those already.
Not yet, but with the drinking and chain smoking, not to mention the
constant harrassment by pesky little do-nothings like you, I might be headed
down your "disability road" sooner than I could predict...
--
Will Dockery's Zorro:
http://www.kannibaal.nl
Shadowville/Netherlands project:
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm
j r sherman
>
>
>> >Nah, I've never begged for anything, since you asked.
>>
>> i see, your begging is something of a passive-aggressive kind of thing.
>you hang
>> around Fort Benning, looking so sad and pathetic that someone eventually
>breaks
>> down, takes pitty on you, and buys you a drink.
>
>No, I walk up on a group having a party, hand 'em a flyer for the pizza
>joints, talk and joke, and when they pour a drink they hand me one
>sometimes.
i'm sure that's how you see it.
>But that's what Sulzbach pays me for, to promote Pizza Roma and Sopranos,
>and I do that, which involves a lot of hanging around and talking to folks.
dockery, they're pizza parlours. you aren't selling stocks and bonds and
realestate. it's pizza. fast food. you eat it and it's gone. your job is about
as important as a billboard, or the flyer that you pass out.
if you are trying to make your job even more important than it is, you're not
doing a very good job.
>> >Your bitter jeering hatred shines brighter than the sun this morning,
>JRS.
>>
>> my laughter is louder as well.
>
>Heh. So you claim... your word is shit here, though, as you know.
oh come on, dockery. i am more respected here than you'll ever be.
>> you pass out flyers for a living, dockery, and you're proud of that.
>>
>> it really does explain how you can take pride in your embarrassing video.
>
>Yeah, I'm proud of my work, just as you're proud of your child rape jokes.
i'm amused by them, but not really proud, it's not really that big a deal.
the only person who does think it's a big deal is you.
>> >I'm doing fine down here in my world, but there's more signs every day
>that
>> >things may not be so rosy in Sherman's World, my little gimpy pal.
>>
>> how could you know one way or the other, you're never sober?
>
>Again with your obsession with my drinking.
i am amused to death with how much denial you're in when it comes to your
alcoholism.
is alcoholism something you also aspire to?
>Somewhere in the archives
the magical "archives!"
>there'll someday be a clue to why you have this obsession. My current
>feeling is the simplest: you're the product of a childhood of abuse by
>drunkard parents... daddy being Irish American. Heh.
and i live in Bradley, California, right, dockery?
but seriously, i am just amused to death with your alcoholism denial. that's
really all there is to it.
>> >> dockery, you hand out flyers.
>> >
>> >Also stick 'em behind windshield wipers, tape 'em to apartment and
>barracks
>> >doors, and leave them at CQ desks at Ranger, Airborne and Infantry
>> >buildings.
>> >
>> >Oh yeah, and leave them at motel and hotel lobbies.
>>
>> >It works for me, and that's what counts.
>>
>> actually, with all that extra time that you have, you could go to school,
>learn
>> stuff, maybe get a degree, maybe do something more respectable than
>passing out
>> flyers?
>
>I've been to school a couple of times,
but got drunk too many times and forgot where it was?
>and have thought of returning, now
>that my weekdays are freed up so i can concentrate on the music, it would be
>interesting to return, if I can dodge the Math classes, which always drive
>me away.
i see. learning to count is for losers, right?
>Plus, the state has some good student loans and grants for poverty stricken
>elderly guys like me... *grin*
i'm sure you'll be going to school about the time they learn the key to turning
lead into gold.
>> >> this is your job. you don't do anything else.
>> >>
>> >> you wander around, looking for free booze, and hand out flyers.
>> >>
>> >> and you think your life is good, how?
>> >
>> >Ah, the usual, JRS, I'm writing poems and songs, starting on a new
>painting
>> >that I dabble with between posts, I'm waiting for my first grandson to be
>> >born practically any minute, now, I'm in fairly good health for my
>advanced
>> >age... and I'm not disabled.
>>
>> you are proud of passing out flyers and begging drinks and you're life is
>good?
>>
>> >Though the SSI check might be cool.
>>
>> something tells me you're getting one of those already.
>Not yet, but with the drinking and chain smoking, not to mention the
>constant harrassment by pesky little do-nothings like you, I might be headed
>down your "disability road" sooner than I could predict...
something else to aspire to, dockery?
the messenjah
j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1115613676....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
> >
> >
> >j r sherman wrote:
> >> >> >>> "Will Dockery" wrote
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> > Learning of the rumor that J.R. Sherman may be
handicapped
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> he was healed the same year I got my sex change.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> this post does answer the question
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I didn't ask about your alleged sex change, Renay. Whatever
sex
> >> >you are
> >> >> >> or were originally, you're still a little bitch.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >*meow* Drunkery. *meeee-fucken-ooowww*
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> But, if JRS is a gimp, it explains his petty and bitter
jeering
> >> >heckler
> >> >> >> status. Those that can't...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >get drunk and make asses of themselves on stage?
> >> >>
> >> >> heh.... and work as pizza delivery guys?
> >> >
> >> >Heh. Yeah, you have it made, JRS, what with your disability SSI
> >check
> >> >to keep you floating.
> >>
> >> oh, please, dockery, i make 4 times what you make in month
> >
> >And that means *what* on a poetry newsgroup where you have no
poetry?
> >I'll give you a clue- it means nothing.
>
> you keep telling yourself this, i'm sure. you've spent a life time
telling
> yourself this. you see people with real jobs and real lives, and you
keep
>
> you wrap yourself up in a laughable and pathetic self-mythology to
drown the
> truth that you're not anything special, dockery, just a sad old drunk
who has to
> work very hard at telling himself lies. "no one's laughing at me! no
one thinks
> i'm a pathetic fool! i'm important!" your sense of self-delusion
might be even
> more refined than chuckles, and that's no small accomplishment.
>
> having a lot more money than you does make me better than you,
dockery. because
> i don't have to sit in my ratty-ass apartment, drinking furniture
polish and
> telling myself gargantuan lies all day just so i can survive to the
next moment
> without killing myself. that alone makes me your superior. of course
if you want
> (and need) to nurse the comical idea that anyone would trade places
with you, go
> ahead. i'm sure that and the booze is the only thing that keeps you
going.
>
>
> >> you said i didn't owe you any money
> >
> >And you don't. The fact that you lost the bet was enough for me.
>
> then why are you now demanding the money? did you forget what you
said to me
> earlier? the good bet is that in a drunken stupor you forgot. you
always do. and
> you didn't find what i was asking for. but i'm sure in your made-up
world you
> feel as though you did.
Are you still having your little hissy-fit with Will? Why don't you
grow up and act like a man.
Renay
"Will Dockery" <will_d...@knology.net> wrote in message
news:1cd43$427fff3a$18d62363$26...@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Then don't write me,
you understand that he's not writing you, right?
writing you would require an email address or
a postage stamp. he's writing on the wall and
you are choosing to read it.
Renay
Renay
>
> "Karla" wrote
>> On 9 May 2005 08:59:33 -0700, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I meet hundreds of people a week
>>
>> I spit my coffee reading that! Who would get off on meeting hundreds of
>> people while delivering pizzas???? bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
>
> delivery.
DUI?
Renay
Will Dockery
Fred Hall wrote:
> On 10 May 2005 10:53:48 -0700, "the messenjah"
...Or jokes about same?
--
Will Dockery's Zorro video:
http://www.kannibaal.nl
Shadowville/Netherlands project:
http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm/
Renay
> Also stick 'em behind windshield wipers, tape 'em to apartment and
> barracks
> doors, and leave them at CQ desks at Ranger, Airborne and Infantry
> buildings.
so really you annoy people for a living.
Renay