Connolly, _White Road_
Patrick
ratcheting up the woowoo quotient, which I don't particularly mind,
though some do. It was nice to get some background on Louis and
Angel. As always, there was a high body count; I sometimes found
myself confused about which minor character had died in which
gruesome fashion.
It relied very heavily on having read the previous book, about which
I have mixed feelings (the reliance, not the book). I appreciate
that the characters' lives aren't episodic, but I have a rather poor
memory for happenings in books.
Others' thoughts?
Pat
Bud Beckman
Problem was the obscure characters, unless you kept a list you'd get
lost and I did, nearly at the end, but had enough recall to put it
together. Needed more character delineation, a fleshing out, so to
speak but maybe that would make the book too long? As it was, I forced
myself to continue and didn't necesaraily care for the history lessons,
Patrick
news:slrnb95gh2....@localhost.localdomain:
>
> Problem was the obscure characters, unless you kept a list you'd
> get lost and I did, nearly at the end, but had enough recall to
> put it together. Needed more character delineation, a fleshing
> out, so to speak but maybe that would make the book too long? As
> it was, I forced myself to continue and didn't necesaraily care
> for the history lessons,
>
> Bud
I like the history lessons, myself, but I can certainly see where
others might not. That's one of the things I like about Connolly and
James Lee Burke -- the history lessons help give a great sense of
place.
Pat
Jennifer Jordan
"Just finished it. Quite enjoyable, I thought."
"Connolly seems to be ratcheting up the woowoo quotient, which I don't
particularly mind, though some do."
What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
Others' thoughts?
After I find out what woowoo is/was, sharing will be easier.
Jen
Jeremy
"Jennifer Jordan" <lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote in message
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this woowoo thing.
Jeremy
Bud Beckman
> I was about to ask the same question. Please define, for us,
>this woowoo thing.
> Jeremy
Bud, ogre and onerous, please consult your crystal ball
--
http://www.lewisandclarkidaho.org/
Sarah Weinman
<lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote:
>What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
>poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
>
>Others' thoughts?
>
>After I find out what woowoo is/was, sharing will be easier.
>
>Jen
>
>
As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
mystery.
Sarah
Jeremy
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Jeremy
No Doze
And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
jon
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Sarah Weinman
>> >
>> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
>> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
>> mystery.
>>
>> Sarah
>
>And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
>
>jon
I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
Sarah
Jennifer Jordan
"> >> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally
refers
"> >> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
"> >> mystery.
"> >>
"> >> Sarah
"> >
"> >And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler
talking.
"> >
"> >jon
">
"> I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
"> wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
">
"> Sarah
"
Jeremy
"
Jeremy bellies up to the bar, testosterone personified.
He lifts a finger to draw the attention of the bartender.
The mountain of manly booze dispensing saunters over.
"What'll ya have?"
Jeremy rubs his chin, then bellows,"I'll have a WooWoo!"
The bartender laughs his ass off....
Jeremy looks vaguely bemused and waits patiently for his drink.
Jen
Jeremy
Sarah Weinman
<myste...@attbi.nospamcom> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
>> wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
>>
>> Sarah
> It sounds like a fruity, alcoholic drink.
> Jeremy
>
Sarah
Jeremy
1).
...or dark beer....or good beer.....actually any gin drink would do in a
pinch.
Jeremy
Jeremy
down?
Jeremy, have not
bartended in 10 years.
Jennifer Jordan
> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
> mystery.
>
> Sarah
>And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler
>
>jon
>
> I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
> wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
>
> Sarah
It sounds like a fruity, alcoholic drink.
Jeremy
"> Jeremy bellies up to the bar, testosterone personified.
"> He lifts a finger to draw the attention of the bartender.
"> The mountain of manly booze dispensing saunters over.
"> "What'll ya have?"
"> Jeremy rubs his chin, then bellows,"I'll have a WooWoo!"
"> The bartender laughs his ass off....
"> Jeremy looks vaguely bemused and waits patiently for his drink.
">
"> Jen
" Nah, dear Jen, I am a martini person...or straight
vodka(Ketel
"1).
"...or dark beer....or good beer.....actually any gin drink would do
in a
"pinch.
"
"Jeremy
"
And how would you feel about drinking a dark beer called "WooWoo"?
Jen
Sarah Weinman
<myste...@attbi.nospamcom> wrote:
>> Jen
> Nah, dear Jen, I am a martini person...or straight vodka(Ketel
>1).
Mmmm....Ketel One....
Sarah
Jeremy
am secure enough in my manhood to drink me glass!
Jeremy
Jeremy
Jeremy
No Doze
It was on Dorthy L of course.
Cutsie Freaks.
Jon
Sarah Weinman
<myste...@attbi.nospamcom> wrote:
>> And how would you feel about drinking a dark beer called "WooWoo"?
>>
>> Jen
> Conflicted, but if it is a good beer...well then, I
>am secure enough in my manhood to drink me glass!
> Jeremy
>
And hey there IS a beer called Big Butt. And it was fine beer too, I
might add.
Sarah
Sarah Weinman
>It was on Dorthy L of course.
>
>Cutsie Freaks.
>
>Jon
Ahhhhh .L!
Sarah
Jeremy
"No Doze" <nig...@execpc.com> wrote in message
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> Sarah Weinman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:18:35 -0500, No Doze <nig...@execpc.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >
> > >> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally
refers
> > >> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
> > >> mystery.
> > >>
> > >> Sarah
> > >
> > >And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
> > >
> > >jon
> >
> > I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
> > wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
> >
> > Sarah
>
> It was on Dorthy L of course.
>
> Cutsie Freaks.
>
> Jon
>
>
Jeremy
Ann Cornellier
> > >> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
> > >> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
> > >> mystery.
> > >>
> > >> Sarah
> > >
> > >And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
> > >
> > >jon
> >
> > I'm not much of a fan of the term either for the same reasons. I
> > wonder who started using it and why it caught on....?
> >
> > Sarah
>
> It was on Dorthy L of course.
>
> Cutsie Freaks.
>
> Jon
My understanding is that the woooooooooo-wooooooooooo should be dragged out and
represents the scary music in grade B films signalling the arrival of a ghost.
Ann in Ottawa
Kat Richardson
> Sarah Weinman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:30:44 -0500, Jennifer Jordan
>> <lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
>> >poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
>> >
>> >Others' thoughts?
>> >
>> >After I find out what woowoo is/was, sharing will be easier.
>> >
>> >Jen
>> >
>> >
>> As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
>> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
>> mystery.
>>
>> Sarah
>
> And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
>
> jon
Waah! Me hates it, too!
(I can tell my novel will not be well-received by some... Too much woo-woo,
not enough wow-wow.)
--
Kat Richardson
Livin' in Woowoo Land
http://www.eskimo.com/~strange
Kat Richardson
How would you feel about Moose Drool? (Don't worry; it's a beer.)
--
Kat Richardson
Nearly any political speech can be replayed by pushing a button on the
washroom hand-dryer.
http://www.eskimo.com/~strange
Mary Reagan
I second (or would it be third) that?
Mary
Randy Money
Perhaps oddly, though, I think I'm starting to be intrigued.
Tell me more, tell me more! (Okay, woo-woo makes me think of Grease for
some reason.)
Randy M.
Jr@Ease
>How would you feel about Moose Drool? (Don't worry; it's a beer.)
I'm in! Moose nuts, I mean Peanuts too!
Ali
Jeanne
Kat Richardson wrote:
Woo-woo Good!!!!!
Jeanne
No Doze
I like the books that are classified that way, I just hate the expression. WHa't
wrong with callin it a supernatural mystery?
Jon
No Doze
And that makes it less silly how??? :)
Annie C
> Jeanne wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:30:44 -0500, Jennifer Jordan
> > > >> <lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
> > > >> >poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
> > > >> >Others' thoughts?
> > > >> >
refers
> > > >> to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
> > > >> mystery.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sarah
> > > >
> > > > And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
> > > >
> > > > jon
> > >
> > > Waah! Me hates it, too!
> > >
>
WHa't
> wrong with callin it a supernatural mystery?
>
> Jon
Well, I don't mind the term at all, actually I kind of like it..
I think of 'woo-woo factor' as a supernatural sliding scale, if you will.
In a range of 1-10, I'd put Connolly's books that I've read at maybe 4 or 5
at the most.
If higher, I probably would not read them.
Annie C
my 2 cents...
Kat Richardson
Well, that's what I called mine, so, obviously that makes sense to me. But,
I never made any bones about the fact that the story is full of ghosts and
stuff, so it's not like they are being slipped in under the guise of a
perfeclty normal situation. I think that's what upsets a few people; when
they think they're reading a "straight" mystery and suddenly there are
ghosts and ESP and donkey-ears and crud like that. Rather puts one off
one's stride, y'know.
Also, I suspect some publishers don't feel very comfortable with that genre
title.
Kat Richardson
Well, now I know what to order for you if you ever turn up in my neck of the
woods. (making notes)
Keith Snyder
said:
>>>>>>> What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
>>>>>>> poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
Actually, it's the sound of a theremin.
Keith
Jennifer Jordan
What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
"Actually, it's the sound of a theremin.
"
"Keith
Which takes us into the World of Moog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, the seventies......
Jen
Keith Snyder
> Which takes us into the World of Moog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Ah, the seventies......
Not just the seventies: http://www.moogmusic.com
Moogerfoogers are some of the coolest effects boxes (or VST plugins)
currently on the market.
Keith
Kat Richardson
>>>>As tempting as it is to say "all of the above" woowoo generally refers
>>>>to anything vaguely paranormal or ghost-like in the context of a
>>>>mystery.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah
>>>
>>>And I hate the expression. It sounds like a grade schooler talking.
>>>
>>>jon
>>
>>
>> Waah! Me hates it, too!
>>
>> (I can tell my novel will not be well-received by some... Too much
>> woo-woo, not enough wow-wow.)
>
> Perhaps oddly, though, I think I'm starting to be intrigued.
>
> Tell me more, tell me more! (Okay, woo-woo makes me think of Grease for
> some reason.)
>
> Randy M.
Seriously? The very first time I ever mentioned it to someone we were
discussing the illogical silliness of most things "supernatural" and I said
that if someone could talk to ghosts, they might be a really nifty
detective (or a spy) and certainly the clients would be pretty interesting.
Needless to say, a lot changed since that first conversation.
Of course, being a big fan of logical, fair-play detective novels, I felt
that the big problem was the amorphous, illogical nature of the
supernatural, so I made up some rules (based on some physics stuff I was
reading at the time), then posited a PI who could play by those rules and
then gave her a mystery to solve by playing strictly by the rules and doing
plain, old-fashioned detective work to get to the solution. Things get
pretty wild and hairy near the end, but the principal structure is always
that of a detective story. Mostly basic stuff, really and the only sex
happens behind closed doors.
There ya go: my novel.
Jennifer Jordan
What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
Jen
I found out what woowoo is. It is many, many, many things. Wow.
FIRST:
To be a proper woo-woo, you must follow these rules:
1. Never look for the simplest, most obvious cause of something.
Refrain from mentioning Occam's Razor (it's your nemesis).
2. Always favor the conspiracy angle over the boring angle. Mundane
explanations (like saying that Roswell was a balloon) are for dullards
and government drones. If you want to sleep with that curvaceous
new-age chick, don't tell her you think astrology is bogus! (Non
woo-woos may benefit from that advice temporarily).
3. Don't accept mainstream science unless it's something you've
believed in for years (like gravity).
4. Try to answer as few direct questions as possible. Always obfuscate
and try to sound learned. Mimic Richard Hoagland's style and you'll go
far.
5. Use "what if" scenarios to change the subject whenever possible. If
you linger on one topic too long you may be asked to provide annoying
things like "proof." Don't let that happen! Consult a creationist if
you need practice with subject-changing.
6. If you're cornered and asked for proof of something, always tell
the person that they "can't disprove" your claims. Many of them will
just walk away shaking their heads, which of course means they agree
with you. A side-to-side head shake could be the same as a vertical
nod. Anything is possible, after all.
7. Memorize all the sci-babble terms used in the Star Trek series.
They are very useful if you get cornered by a skeptic, and you need to
come up with some sort of "scientific" explanation. e.g., Inertial
Dampeners. (Thanks to SkepticReport.com for the Star Trek terminology
correction!)
8. When all else fails, start asking hypothetical questions that have
nothing to do with the actual debate. If your opponent chooses to
ignore your pointless questions and remains on topic, repeat your
meaningless question(s) over and over. This will make any Believers in
the audience think that your opponent is evading the issue.
9. Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic
that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your
endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of
name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have
changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat
up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal
attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes
to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.
10. Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it
means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your
favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.
11. Two more words: Paradigm shift.
12. Always claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're
as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Other woo-woos love the concept of
"open-mindedness" and will take you into their inner circle without
question. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who
demand evidence for everything.
13. Drink heavily while posting.
14. You must believe that the word "anomaly" means proof of paranormal
activity.
15. Use the word "anomaly" as often as possible.
16. When your position appears hopeless, your entire audience is
laughing at you, and you've lost all credibility (and perhaps even won
a Kook of the Month) threaten everyone within proximity with a
lawsuit. You don't need to actually prepare a lawsuit, just make the
threat. That will let them know you're a serious person.
17. Go make your own newsgroup with a group charter drawn up to keep
out anyone who doesn't agree with your view of the world. Occasionally
crosspost to other newsgroups from that one, then complain when people
answer your posts, complain to their system administrators that
they're abusing the terms of your newsgroup and demand their accounts
be yanked for abusive spamming. Respond to each answering message with
a duplicate copy of the FAQ for your newsgroup.
18. Open numerous accounts under other names, then post agreeable
responses to your own messages from those accounts. Everybody knows
that the only reason anybody disagrees with you is that they like the
belong to "the group" and have no independent thought of their own.
Just manufacture a group of people who agree with you, and the rest of
the mindless zeebs will fall into line, tripping over each other to
become one of your supporters.
19. Fix the 'reply to' line of any post you make, to direct responses
to your email account - this will automatically mail you a copy of any
response made to your posts on usenet. Send copies of these mails to
the postmasters and sysadmins of anyone who posts a disagreeing answer
to you. Refer to these people as 'internet terrorists' and demand
their accounts be canceled immediately for sending you unwanted email
spam.
20. Refer to anyone who doggedly uncovers your latest little scams,
time after time as "stalkers." Write to their sysadmins and demand
their accounts be removed for net abuse.
21. Remember to occasionally tell your opponents that you've handed
all the information you've collected about them to the local
police/Mounties/FBI who were extremely interested and grateful for the
advance notice of where to find criminals like you. You don't actually
have to collect any information, or send it to anybody, but this will
keep your opponents edgy, and make them paranoid. Mention that the
police/Mounties/FBI are closing in on them, and that their day of
reckoning is just moments away.
22. Refer to anyone who does not immediately agree with you as being
uneducated on the matter, lacking in important information, or just
plain too stupid to understand your magnificent statements.
23. Pretend to write a book. Nothing says "I am beyond reproach" like
having written a book. If asked for an ISBN number, just make
something up. Nobody ever looks at those anyway.
24. Pretend to have a degree. Never let yourself be pinned down to
what kind or where you got it. Just state repeatedly that you have
one, and therefore are superior, and may not be questioned upon any
subject by anyone.
25. Claim that there is no evidence that you are a fraud, kook,
net-abuser, spammer, or liar. Refer to any actual proof of this as
"spinning" or "disinformation." Post messages that the system
administrators of every system your opponents post from are on the
verge of killing their accounts for net-abuse, and that you're going
to set things right, and get rid of all these cynical lying
fact-spinners by sending one final massive complaint against them all.
26. When all else fails.... SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.....
27. When questioned, be sure to exclaim "They laughed at Galileo,
too!" or perhaps "They laughed at Columbus, until he proved the earth
was round!"
28. Always bear in mind that The Conspiracy Against You can do almost
anything. After all, they've kept those 300 MPG carburetors secret for
years.
29. Keep trotting out the one "respectable" scientist who might
possibly have said something that could be construed as perhaps giving
a hint that it may theoretically support your position. Even better if
said scientist has said it outright. Ignore all complaints that the
work is 50 years out of date, the scientist has no experience in the
field in question or that other experts in the same field think said
scientist is a complete loony (and they can prove it, too).
30. Dig out one reference that supports your position. Complain when
someone presents a reference that refutes yours. Say that this means
they can't think for themselves and your reference proves it. Ignore
all queries on why you hold this hypocritical position.
31. Whenever you read something on the Internet, re-post it as fact.
Never bother to do even basic research into the matter.
32. Be sure to repeatedly spam your petty political rants onto lots of
unrelated, off-topic newsgroups. (Those folks reading
rec.culture.needlepoint are just dying to read about how much you hate
a certain politician!)
33. One word: "Hyperdimensional."
34. When debating, remember that the best technique to "proving" your
hypothesis is to start with a supposition, and when you get to the
third point, refer to the supposition as a "fact". This may cause just
enough initial confusion to let you escape with a momentary triumph.
35. Sock Puppets are very useful. If you can't find a weak-minded soul
who will blindly parrot you in support of your nonsense, create your
own. Then you can refer to your "many" supporters.
36. Quote Einstein, and do so often. Quote things he said if possible,
but Einstein has been dead for ages now and so it's permissible to
bring him up to date. Change the odd word here and there to make it
clear that Einstein would have supported
your argument if only he knew what you know. Act as if any arbitrary
Einstein quote supports your position.
37. Any and all communications problems including satellite failures,
bad phone connections, mysterious messages when dialing known phone
numbers, busy signals when trying to enter the grassy knoll on AOL,
and radios left on during calls must be blamed on the 'Conspiracy'
trying to 'silence the truth'.
38. Use lots of ALL CAPS letters. Use them randomly: "I was posting my
URL in alt.paranormal/alt.astrology. Then I was stopped because A
MAJORITY OF POSTERS, PSEUDO-SKEPTIC RAVING FANATICS SCREAMED ABOUT
IT."
39. Beware the "goodtimes" virus.
40. When all else fails, try to redefine what "skeptical", "skeptic"
and "skepticism" mean so that you become a 'real' skeptic who accepts
your own nonsense at face value.
41. Refer to yourself in the third person.
AND, NOT TO BE OUTDONE:
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Resident campers and day campers are allowed.
For more information contact:
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AND MORE OF WHAT I WAS THINKING
The WooWoo That Ends The Night
Whoever said ‘Tradition to a dog is once’ was right.
Yup, four-thirty a.m. right on schedule.My "once" happened five days
ago when, God only knows why, I bounced out of bed at four-thirty in
the morning, got all the dogs out for their pee and put the coffee on.
Now I was paying the price for that momentary burst of pre-dawn
enthusiasm. Deaglan was performing his morning song cycle.
"I want to be free! Whooo Whooo Whoooooooo.
It's time for a pee Whooo Whooo Whoooooooo.
Now's the time, if you're so inclined,
to bring me my feed Whooo Whooo Whoooooooo!
It's uncanny.
Every morning. Same time.
I'd best get moving or Deaglan will let go a little squirt to relieve
anxiety, so to speak, retaining the bulk of his discomfiture until he
gets outside. Let me tell you just a squirt to relieve anxiety from an
Irish Wolfhound, does amount to a significant pool of pee and guess
who cleans up. Only needs a couple of paper towels you think?
No way! More like an entire section of the local paper.
So I'm off to do his lordship's bidding. As I opened the crate he
greeted me with thumping tail and his dash for the door. Deaglan's
relieving of the bladder takes a full minute and a half. It's
incredible. I've timed him. That's why I hustle. If I didn’t it would
take more than one paper section, more like a week's subscription, to
fend off the tide of unleashed bladder. Today all is well, however, no
pollutant spills to contend with. First hazard of the day dealt with.
Now you experience the delight of the woowoo that ends the night
AND THE UNINTELLIGBLE
woowoo
woowoo is ancient as the earth itself
woowoo is? read "babes in boyland" to find out
woowoo is trusted by
woowoo is +s
woowoo is a very
woowoo is doch auch n cocktail
woowoo is firmly placed in real world nyc
Jennifer Jordan
Wow! I orbitally had a Beavus and Butthead reaction to the word
Moogfooger. But, damn, that's a lot of effect from a tiny little box!
This takes us beyond Rick Wakeman, doesn't it?
JEn
This is the classic Moog filter that changed the sound of electronic
music. Reach out and sweep the filter with the CUTOFF knob. Or use the
ENVELOPE section to do it automatically. Or plug in one or more
expression pedals or control voltages to do it. Or do all three. This
is the best-sounding, most playable filter you can have!
Jeremy
"Kat Richardson" <null....@lycos.com> wrote in message
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highly of mooses( Is that the plural?). A beer named after them would have
to step up to be worthy of such a name.
Jeremy
Jeremy
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like Mr. John's.
Jeremy
Sarah Weinman
<myste...@attbi.nospamcom> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I don't mind the term at all, actually I kind of like it..
>> I think of 'woo-woo factor' as a supernatural sliding scale, if you will.
>> In a range of 1-10, I'd put Connolly's books that I've read at maybe 4 or
>5
>> at the most.
>> If higher, I probably would not read them.
>>
>>
>> Annie C
>> my 2 cents...
>>
> Sorry, the term woowoo just doesn't sound appropriate for books
>like Mr. John's.
> Jeremy
>
Ditto on that count. Thrillers with supernatural
elements....supernatural thrillers, or better yet, they are John
Connolly Books (TM) which cannot really be compared to other books and
genres?????
OK, I tried.
Sarah
Sarah Weinman
<ke...@woollymammoth.com> wrote:
>in article Gu3la.422701$sf5.7...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net, Kat Richardson
>said:
>
>>>>>>>> What is woowoo? The sound a train makes. Sucking face? Little pink
>>>>>>>> poodles trained to walk on their hind feet?
>
>Actually, it's the sound of a theremin.
>
Theremins totally rock!!!!
Sarah
Kat Richardson
It's pretty good stuff on draft. Bottled is over-hopped, though.
kat >^.^<
"Mary Reagan" <mre...@ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote in message
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Then y'all have at it!
kat >^.^<
in Wisconsin
drinking coffee and diet cherry coke smuggled back from Virginia
Patrick
> I found out what woowoo is. It is many, many, many things. Wow.
<snip>
Now that that's settled, anyone else care to comment on the book?
Pat
Sarah Weinman
IMO, the best written of the series, but I didn't quite love it as
much as THE KILLING KIND.
Sarah
kat >^.^<
"Keith Snyder" <ke...@woollymammoth.com> wrote in message
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I have got to get around to watching that video about the history of the
theremin, Keith. I conned the library into ordering it after reading about
it in your books. It has been checked out more than one would expect
already.
kat >^.^<
in Wisconsin
Randy Money
> Randy Money scrawled:
>
>
[...]
>>>
>>>(I can tell my novel will not be well-received by some... Too much
>>>woo-woo, not enough wow-wow.)
>>
>>Perhaps oddly, though, I think I'm starting to be intrigued.
>>
>>Tell me more, tell me more! (Okay, woo-woo makes me think of Grease for
>>some reason.)
>>
>>Randy M.
>
>
> Seriously?
Seriously. I enjoyed _Every Dead Thing_, with it's hints of the
supernatural, and my favorite Cornell Woolrich novel so far is _Night
Has a Thousand Eyes_, which is structured pretty much like his
mystery/crime novels, just that there's a supernatural element at the
forefront.
I tend to like 'em moody, but if your's is light-hearted I'll still be
interested.
> The very first time I ever mentioned it to someone we were
> discussing the illogical silliness of most things "supernatural" and I said
> that if someone could talk to ghosts, they might be a really nifty
> detective (or a spy) and certainly the clients would be pretty interesting.
> Needless to say, a lot changed since that first conversation.
>
> Of course, being a big fan of logical, fair-play detective novels, I felt
> that the big problem was the amorphous, illogical nature of the
> supernatural, so I made up some rules (based on some physics stuff I was
> reading at the time), then posited a PI who could play by those rules and
> then gave her a mystery to solve by playing strictly by the rules and doing
> plain, old-fashioned detective work to get to the solution. Things get
> pretty wild and hairy near the end, but the principal structure is always
> that of a detective story. Mostly basic stuff, really and the only sex
> happens behind closed doors.
>
> There ya go: my novel.
The way you set it up, it sounds like you might crossover into a lighter
form of s.f. -- at least, if you're consistent in your use of physics.
I look forward to reading it, Kat. Let us know when it hits the stands.
Randy M.
Randy Money
Not positive of this, but didn't they used to be called "chillers" to
distinguish them from "thrillers"?
And let's recall, Mr. C. is working a distinguished tradition. Heck, in
_Every Dead Thing_ he seems to be acknowledging both Gerald Kersh and
Cornell Woolrich.
Randy M.
Bud Beckman
>On 10 Apr 2003 12:42:07 GMT, Patrick wrote:
>
>>Now that that's settled, anyone else care to comment on the book?
>>
>>Pat
>
>IMO, the best written of the series, but I didn't quite love it as
>much as THE KILLING KIND.
>
>Sarah
Yeah, it is okay, vague in spots, loooong intro, keep a cheat sheet
on the characters, and many surprises. Not as good as I'd hoped.
Ann Cornellier
> > represents the scary music in grade B films signalling the arrival of a ghost.
> >
> > Ann in Ottawa
>
> And that makes it less silly how??? :)
>
> Jon
Woo-woo IS silly. Live with it!!
Anti-woo-woo in Ottawa
Kat Richardson
> Kat Richardson wrote:
>> Randy Money scrawled:
>>
>>
>
> [...]
>
>>>>
>>>>(I can tell my novel will not be well-received by some... Too much
>>>>woo-woo, not enough wow-wow.)
>>>
>>>Perhaps oddly, though, I think I'm starting to be intrigued.
>>>
>>>Tell me more, tell me more! (Okay, woo-woo makes me think of Grease for
>>>some reason.)
>>>
>>>Randy M.
>>
>>
>> Seriously?
>
> Seriously. I enjoyed _Every Dead Thing_, with it's hints of the
> supernatural, and my favorite Cornell Woolrich novel so far is _Night
> Has a Thousand Eyes_, which is structured pretty much like his
> mystery/crime novels, just that there's a supernatural element at the
> forefront.
>
> I tend to like 'em moody, but if your's is light-hearted I'll still be
> interested.
Meduim-boiled, a bit tart-noir.
>
>> The very first time I ever mentioned it to someone we were
>> discussing the illogical silliness of most things "supernatural" and I
>> said that if someone could talk to ghosts, they might be a really nifty
>> detective (or a spy) and certainly the clients would be pretty
>> interesting. Needless to say, a lot changed since that first
>> conversation.
>>
>> Of course, being a big fan of logical, fair-play detective novels, I felt
>> that the big problem was the amorphous, illogical nature of the
>> supernatural, so I made up some rules (based on some physics stuff I was
>> reading at the time), then posited a PI who could play by those rules and
>> then gave her a mystery to solve by playing strictly by the rules and
>> doing plain, old-fashioned detective work to get to the solution. Things
>> get pretty wild and hairy near the end, but the principal structure is
>> always that of a detective story. Mostly basic stuff, really and the only
>> sex happens behind closed doors.
>>
>> There ya go: my novel.
>
> The way you set it up, it sounds like you might crossover into a lighter
> form of s.f. -- at least, if you're consistent in your use of physics.
I intend to stick to the rules I made and keep them as consistent with
theoretical physics as the premise will allow. Obviously, there's going to
be some stretching and pulling on scientific fact, but I'd like to keep it
within a predetermined framework. That seems fair, to me, where the
alternative seems like pulling rabbits out of hats and smacks too much of
Deus ex machina for me.
>
> I look forward to reading it, Kat. Let us know when it hits the stands.
It'll be a while. Still shopping for an agent. But, of course, being a
shameless self-promoter, I'll be sure to let RAM know about it when it does
become an acutal book, not just a vapor-ware one.
Thanks for the encouragement, Randy.
jimg...@ramworldnet.att.net
> And hey there IS a beer called Big Butt. And it was fine beer too, I
> might add.
There's a line of wines called Fat Bastard, too. And the Shiraz isn't
half bad, actually.
Jim
Waukesha, WI
U.S.A.
Jeremy
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Jeremy
No Doze
But Bud, you don't like anything as much as you hope to. I think you need
to read some really bad books and then grab a new book. It will at least
seem great in comparison.
Jon
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Jennifer Jordan
Fat Bastard is an award winning line of wines. The chardonny in
particularity. Now, Old Fact wine... sucks sour grapes.
Jen
Jennifer Jordan
"> >> I found out what woowoo is. It is many, many, many things. Wow.
"> >
"> ><snip>
"> >
"> >Now that that's settled, anyone else care to comment on the book?
"> >
"> >Pat
">
"> IMO, the best written of the series, but I didn't quite love it as
"> much as THE KILLING KIND.
">
"> Sarah
" Tough to say, I really enjoyed both KK and Dark
Hollow.
"
"Jeremy
"
distinctive from each other as say, Lehane. But, each had subtle
differences. I hesitate to compare because I experienced each on a
separate level. Each left it's own impression. How many ways can I say
the same thing? I wouldn't compare the writing itself on a good to bad
scale because the writing just seemed different with each book.
Blah... I'm as eloquent as a California Raisin. Wow. I think my blood
sugar is low... I'd better eat. Um... I put things as well as a Feng
Shui designer on crack... yeah. Blood sugar dropping rapidly. Must
eat. Um...... typing bad... words not come out good. Er... help...
Je
n
Dusty Rhoades
says...
I've had it. It's not half good, either.
Dusty
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http://dusty.booksnbytes.com/columns/2003/2003_0406.html
Patrick
>Bud Beckman wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, it is okay, vague in spots, loooong intro, keep a cheat sheet
>> on the characters, and many surprises. Not as good as I'd hoped.
>>
>> Bud
>> --
>> http://www.lewisandclarkidaho.org/
>
>But Bud, you don't like anything as much as you hope to. I think you need
>to read some really bad books and then grab a new book. It will at least
>seem great in comparison.
>
>Jon
But is it worth it? I tend to have that problem as well, but I'm not sure
I'd care much for the solution.
<Snipping my own reply. I think I'll start a different thread. Tomorrow.>
FWIW, my favorite Connolly so far is _Dark Hollow_.
Pat
Sarah Weinman
<lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote:
>"
>I felt, when I read these books, that each had it's own style. Not as
>distinctive from each other as say, Lehane. But, each had subtle
>differences. I hesitate to compare because I experienced each on a
>separate level. Each left it's own impression. How many ways can I say
>the same thing? I wouldn't compare the writing itself on a good to bad
>scale because the writing just seemed different with each book.
>Blah... I'm as eloquent as a California Raisin. Wow. I think my blood
>sugar is low... I'd better eat. Um... I put things as well as a Feng
>Shui designer on crack... yeah. Blood sugar dropping rapidly. Must
>eat. Um...... typing bad... words not come out good. Er... help...
>
>Je
> n
Is it me or is this whole blood sugar thing a bit of a handy
excuse....?
Gotta go............
Sarah
Jeremy
"Jennifer Jordan" <lovin...@cognisurf.com> wrote in message
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assistance.
Jeremy,knows my limitations.
Bud Beckman
> (No Doze) wrote:
>
>>Bud Beckman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, it is okay, vague in spots, loooong intro, keep a cheat sheet
>>> on the characters, and many surprises. Not as good as I'd hoped.
>>>
>>> Bud
>>
>>to read some really bad books and then grab a new book. It will at least
>>seem great in comparison.
>>
>>Jon
>
>But is it worth it? I tend to have that problem as well, but I'm not sure
>I'd care much for the solution.
>
><Snipping my own reply. I think I'll start a different thread. Tomorrow.>
>
>FWIW, my favorite Connolly so far is _Dark Hollow_.
>
>Pat
Yeah, Pat, not a good idea. Jon, I can start a book and give it a try to
see if it fits after reading so many pages, if it doesn't
grab my interest, I give up and go to another book. I've tossed a few the
last month. Some RAM recs too. Reader's funk?
I did like the first two Connolly books much better.
Keith Snyder
> I have got to get around to watching that video about the history of the
> theremin, Keith. I conned the library into ordering it after reading about
> it in your books. It has been checked out more than one would expect
> already.
THEREMIN: AN ELECTRONIC ODYSSEY is a great documentary, whether you
care about theremins or not. What a weird life the guy had. And the
incoherent Brian Wilson interview is worth the admission price on its
own.
kat >^.^<
Finally started watching last night. Had to quit because I kept falling
asleep (not the fault of the film, I kept falling asleep all day for some
reason). Just got to the part where Todd Rudgren says, "I'm not the only
one doing this, am I?" Must finish today.
kat >^.^<
in Wisconsin
Rich
kat >^.^<
kat >^.^<
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Katarina
I often try to use him in contacts with England and the US to get people to
spell my last name correctly. Now I see why it doesn't work - even those who
know of him can't spell his name. Pish.
Katarina
No Doze
> Sorry to be an A-R W but I'm pretty sure you both mean Todd Rundgren.
>
> I often try to use him in contacts with England and the US to get people to
> spell my last name correctly. Now I see why it doesn't work - even those who
> know of him can't spell his name. Pish.
>
> Katarina
I spell his name right because I have a pile of his music. I think he's great,
and have been listening to him for well over twenty years. I've seen him live a
few times and he puts on a wonderful show, both solo and with Utopia.
jon
kat >^.^<
a rush and didn't look it up. I was "on call" and was trying to keep the
telephone line open, so I didn't check my spelling.
Ta!
kat >^.^<
in Wisconsin
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Gina Metz
>
>> (I can tell my novel will not be well-received by some... Too much woo-woo,
>> not enough wow-wow.)
>>
>
>Woo-woo Good!!!!!
>Jeanne
>
What Jeanne said!