SOT: Mark! Mark!
Jane
Do you have a book you'd recommend for an intelligent lay person
outlining the history of art? I'd normally just give him Jansen, but I
remember your saying you didn't like Jansen, so I was wondering if you
knew something better.
Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com
Mark Alan Miller
"Jane" <Jane...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hi--
>
> Do you have a book you'd recommend for an intelligent lay person
> outlining the history of art? I'd normally just give him Jansen, but I
> remember your saying you didn't like Jansen, so I was wondering if you
> knew something better.
Well, I don't have any particular beef with the Janson (with and O), but I
also haven't seen any of the recent editions and it's been substantially
revised. The Gombrich is also readable, cranky, and lively, though dated.
I think Gombrich looked at art better than the average art historian. He
talks about why art works visually better than most. But the Janson is more
complete and bound to be better on art of the last 50 years.
Mark Alan Miller
Jane
Oh, bleh. It wasn't even a typo. It's a mistake I seem to have
been making for the last 30 years. I have no idea why I was so
convinced you spelled that with an E, but the book is sitting on my
worktable and of course you're right.
but I
> also haven't seen any of the recent editions and it's been substantially
> revised. The Gombrich is also readable, cranky, and lively, though dated.
> I think Gombrich looked at art better than the average art historian. He
> talks about why art works visually better than most. But the Janson is more
> complete and bound to be better on art of the last 50 years.
The edition I've got is about five years old, but I'll check out
the Gombrich too. I don't think modern art is what he's trying to work
his way through.
But, while I've got you here:
1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
colors.
2) Do you know a sculpture by Umberto Boccioni called Unique forms
of Continuity in Space? I've probably misspelled the name again.
Anyway, am I the only person on earth who looks at that for the first
time, without knowing what it is, and thinks it must be a statue of Don
Quixote?
Thanks.
Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com
Mary Reagan
> 2) Do you know a sculpture by Umberto Boccioni called Unique forms
> of Continuity in Space? I've probably misspelled the name again.
> Anyway, am I the only person on earth who looks at that for the first
> time, without knowing what it is, and thinks it must be a statue of Don
> Quixote?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jane Haddam
> http://www.janehaddam.com
Okay, this intrigued me so of course I had to Google it. Found an image of
the sculpture on the Museum of Fine Arts Houston web site and can definitely
see why you think of Don Quixote.
http://www.mfah.org/exhibition.asp?par1=1&par2=1&par3=125&par6=3&par4=690&lg
c=4¤tPage=1
Mary
Mitchy
> 1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
>prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
>for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
>Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
>colors.
*googles. Reads up on* Interesting. May I ask, Jane, what appeals to
you about this painting?
--
Mitchy
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Annie C
|
| 1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
| prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
| for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
| Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
| colors.
Giclee process prints are excellent in my experience and should give you the
vivid color you're seeking. They are produced by scanning the image,
creating a digital file, and then the ink is applied to the paper/canvas
with computer controlled jets. Giclee prints have a higher resolution than
offset lithographs. Remember that on your computer screen the color prints
you see online will look somewhat less vivid than in the real world. I'd
suggest
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/The-Flagellation-of-Christ-Posters_i1517297_.htm
or http://www.art.com ( http://tinyurl.com/zktl5 )
Note the slightly different sizes of each - the art.com one has slightly
larger dimensions, but both are Giclee prints.. I've had good luck with
quality and service from both sellers. HTH.
|
| 2) Do you know a sculpture by Umberto Boccioni called Unique forms
| of Continuity in Space? I've probably misspelled the name again.
| Anyway, am I the only person on earth who looks at that for the first
| time, without knowing what it is, and thinks it must be a statue of Don
| Quixote?
I see that! I think that DQ impression comes mainly from the head and foot
gear
Isn't this sculpture part of the MoMA collection?
Annie
Francis A. Miniter
>"Jane" <Jane...@aol.com> wrote in message
>|
>| But, while I've got you here:
>|
>| 1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
>| prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
>| for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
>| Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
>| colors.
>
>Giclee process prints are excellent in my experience and should give you the
>vivid color you're seeking. They are produced by scanning the image,
>creating a digital file, and then the ink is applied to the paper/canvas
>with computer controlled jets. Giclee prints have a higher resolution than
>offset lithographs. Remember that on your computer screen the color prints
>you see online will look somewhat less vivid than in the real world. I'd
>suggest
>http://www.allposters.com/-sp/The-Flagellation-of-Christ-Posters_i1517297_.htm
>or http://www.art.com ( http://tinyurl.com/zktl5 )
>
>Note the slightly different sizes of each - the art.com one has slightly
>larger dimensions, but both are Giclee prints.. I've had good luck with
>quality and service from both sellers. HTH.
>
>
>
>
See also http://www.artchive.com/artchive/P/piero/flagella.jpg.html
You can view and save a large digial image ofthis or order a poster.
Francis A. Miniter
Annie C
"Mitchy" <mi...@orien.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:LExMDvA1...@orien.demon.co.uk...
| In message Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Jane <Jane...@aol.com> writes
| > 1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
| >prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
| >for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
| >Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
| >colors.
|
| *googles. Reads up on* Interesting. May I ask, Jane, what appeals to
| you about this painting?
| --
| Mitchy
|
FYI There is a fascinating geometrical analysis of PdF's The Flagellation
here
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.geometry/unit13/unit13.html
I went *googling* too.. I was trying to remember the name of a wonderful
mini-series (shown on PBS here) from ten or more years ago. It was set in
Tuscany, a summer villa, and based on John Mortimer's writings. It was a
mystery mostly and the story involved a woman's obsession with the art of
Piero della Francesca.. specifically, The Flagellation.. And John Gielgud
was in it ... sound familiar?
Found it! "Summer's Lease"... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163961/#comment
Luckily, it is now available on dvd and the book, of the same name, is in
pb....
Something else for the 'to buy' list :)
Annie
Jane
Mitchy wrote:
>
> *googles. Reads up on* Interesting. May I ask, Jane, what appeals to
> you about this painting?
> --
> Mitchy
Oh, ah.
I was looking for a book, a sort of base-level, really simplistic
overview of the last 2500 years or so that I could give to my class in
the fall, which is mostly going to be full of people who, if they've
ever heard of Socrates, it's because they've seen Bill and Ted's
Excellent Adventure. But it's hard to do an intro to lit course when
they have no cultural context at all.
So I've been going through a whole bunch of books and the PdF was in
one of them, and it just struck me that it was the PERFECT visual
metaphor for the changes I've seen in sort of US society at large in my
lifetime.
Not that we used to be religious and now we're not, but that the
focus when I was growing up was on doing something about other people's
suffering and difficulties. Even rich people played down the money
they had, and status went to people who did "good" either by helping
other people or by doing work that didn't pay much but was "serious."
And now, all we seem to care about is money, celebrity, and being
young, and the flashier you are with all three, the better.
If that makes any sense.
Anyway, I thought I'd get a print and get it framed and put it up
on the one wall of my office without windows.
Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com
Mark Alan Miller
>
> 1) Do you know a place to get really, really, really good quality
> prints? I want a print of Piero della Francesca's Flagellation (sp?)
> for the wall of my office, but the couple of places I've found on the
> Net so far that have it seem to have it in rather washed-out looking
> colors.
Others seem to be answering this better than I could. We've got quite a bit
of original art on our walls (none of it mine, for reasons a psychoanalyst
might try to explain) and don't have any prints. One of the reasons is
scale. Unless I can get a reproduction the same size as the original, I
don't want it, and most of my favorite art is huge. A shrunken Franz Kline
is not at all the same thing. The PdF is of moderate size, so that wouldn't
bug me.
> 2) Do you know a sculpture by Umberto Boccioni called Unique forms
> of Continuity in Space? I've probably misspelled the name again.
> Anyway, am I the only person on earth who looks at that for the first
> time, without knowing what it is, and thinks it must be a statue of Don
> Quixote?
Oh, sure, I know the sculpture. One of the iconic Futurist works. Can't
say I'd ever particularly thought of Don Quixote, but he does look as if he
could be wearing some kind of helmet, and he seems to be leaning into the
wind and striding forward determinedly. Picasso's images of Don Quixote are
what always comes to mind for me.
Mark Alan Miller