OT: quotation of Stuart Chase
Howard Duck
work was expressed in the book, The Tragedy of Waste, 1925.
A statement by Chase which was quoted in "Criminal Minds":
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't
believe, no proof is possible."
I think that is a succinct statement of a profound truth.
It reminds me of a statement made by Jesus in Luke 16:31 -
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Howard Duck
Chris F.A. Johnson
> Stuart Chase was an American accountant and economist whose definitive
> work was expressed in the book, The Tragedy of Waste, 1925.
>
> A statement by Chase which was quoted in "Criminal Minds":
> "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't
> believe, no proof is possible."
> I think that is a succinct statement of a profound truth.
I think that is the cop-out of someone who cannot present a
cohesive argument.
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Howard Duck
<cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2009-12-18, Howard Duck wrote:
> > Stuart Chase was an American accountant and economist whose definitive
> > work was expressed in the book, The Tragedy of Waste, 1925.
> >
> > A statement by Chase which was quoted in "Criminal Minds":
> > "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't
> > believe, no proof is possible."
> > I think that is a succinct statement of a profound truth.
>
> I think that is the cop-out of someone who cannot present a
> cohesive argument.
What he is saying is not an argument. He is merely presenting a fact
of two contrary natures - believers and non believers. The one accept
on faith a principle that cannot be proven whereas the other cannot be
convinced of a spiritually revealed truth regardless of any proof.
That seems to be the nature of two mindsets.
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Howard
Chris F.A. Johnson
> On 18 Dec 2009 15:26:33 GMT, "Chris F.A. Johnson"
><cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-12-18, Howard Duck wrote:
>> > Stuart Chase was an American accountant and economist whose definitive
>> > work was expressed in the book, The Tragedy of Waste, 1925.
>> >
>> > A statement by Chase which was quoted in "Criminal Minds":
>> > "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't
>> > believe, no proof is possible."
>> > I think that is a succinct statement of a profound truth.
>>
>> I think that is the cop-out of someone who cannot present a
>> cohesive argument.
>
> What he is saying is not an argument.
Very true!
> He is merely presenting a fact of two contrary natures - believers
> and non believers. The one accept on faith a principle that cannot
> be proven whereas the other cannot be convinced of a spiritually
> revealed truth regardless of any proof. That seems to be the nature
> of two mindsets.
Yes, the rational versus the delusional.
K Barrett
>>> On 2009-12-18, Howard Duck wrote:
>>>> A statement by Chase which was quoted in "Criminal Minds":
>>>> "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't
>>>> believe, no proof is possible."
[snip] I've often wondered where they get these quotes. I envision a
little Hollywood office the size of a closet with a gnomelike figure
parceling out quotations, both real and imagined. 'Nono, Cameron
optioned all the Pepys quotes, you'll have to make do with Johnson.'
K Barrett
Howard Duck
wrote:
This is a real one. See:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/stuartchas162978.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/y9ncxu7
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Howard
Francis A. Miniter
I just came across a similar quote from the book I am
reading, *The Testament of Gideon Mack* by James Robertson
(Penguin 2004). Actually, though I have not yet finished
it, I am sufficiently far along (80%) that I can commend it
to you, Howard. I do think you would find it enjoyable.
What the quote does argue for is occupation of the gray area
between the two extremes - doubt.
--
Francis A. Miniter
Oscuramente
libros, laminas, llaves
siguen mi suerte.
Jorge Luis Borges, La Cifra Haiku, 6
Howard Duck
<fami...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just came across a similar quote from the book I am
> reading, *The Testament of Gideon Mack* by James Robertson
> (Penguin 2004). Actually, though I have not yet finished
> it, I am sufficiently far along (80%) that I can commend it
> to you, Howard. I do think you would find it enjoyable.
>
> What the quote does argue for is occupation of the gray area
> between the two extremes - doubt.
>
> --
> Francis A. Miniter
Thanks Francis. I'll be sure to check that out.
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Howard
family
"Howard Duck" <hbd...@geusnet.com> wrote in message
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This question was brought up at our Church's Bible Study Class,
"Do you believe because you understand,
or do you understand because you believe?"
There is a world of difference between those two questions!
Francis A. Miniter
Socrates poses a similar question in one of the dialogues
(Crito, maybe): Is something good because the gods love it,
or do the gods love it because it is good. It works the
same for a monotheistic world. The issue is which is more
primordial - divinity or the nature of goodness. In an
atheistic world, there is only the nature of goodness.