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Peter Reiher  
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 More options Jun 9 1989, 11:59 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: rei...@amethyst.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Reiher)
Date: 9 Jun 89 15:59:23 GMT
Local: Fri, Jun 9 1989 11:59 am
Subject: Re: BEST MOVIE EVER!

In article <1...@isieng.UUCP> do...@isieng.UUCP (Doug Moran) writes:
>In article <6...@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu>, k...@math.lsa.umich.edu (Kent Boklan) writes:
>> Just thought I'd throw my hat into the ring and name a few of my
>> favorite films;
>> Pandora's Box
>> Greed
>> City Lights
>> The Bicycle Thief
>> the Grand Illusion
>> and Citizen Kane. There are quite a few others, but, as always,

>I have only seen Citizen Kane from that list.  Indeed, outside of
>books listing "Top Movies of All Times," I have never even heard
>mention of Pandora's Box, Greed (isn't it 8 hours long?), The
>Bicycle Thief, and The Grand Illusion.

"Greed" was cut by Eric von Stroheim at 16 hours, I believe.  The released
version is much, much shorter - around two hours or so.  This version of
"Greed" shows fairly often in major cities, and occasionally on PBS and
cable channels like A&E and Bravo.  A reasonably determined search of video
stores in fairly large cities would probably turn up a copy.  The search is
definitely worthwhile.  A reasonable number of film historians and critics
think that the full length version would have been one of the finest films
ever made, and the short version is regarded as a masterpiece of silent film.

"Pandora'a Box" is a German silent film starring Louise Brooks.  It would be
somewhat harder to find than "Greed".  Directed by G. W. Pabst, it is heavy
on doom and decadence.  Brooks is excellent, and the film is quite good.

"The Bicycle Thief" is perhaps the center piece of the Italian neo-realism
movement of the late forties and fifties.  I have never seen it, but it is
commonly spoken of as being extraordinarily moving and powerful.

"Grand Illusion" is one of the two most common critics' choices for "best
movie ever made".  (The other is "Citizen Kane".)  It was made in the 1930's,
by Jean Renoir, in France, starring Jean Gabin and Eric von Stroheim.  It is a
powerful anti-war film set in a German prison camp during the First World War.  
It should be easy to find at almost any video store that has a decent foreign
film section, and shows up often at revival theaters and on public TV and cable
stations that show foreign films.  I personally prefer Renoir's "Rules of the
Game", but we're talking here about preferring "Hamlet" over "Macbeth", here.  
Both are masterpieces of film.

>For me, a great movie is one where I sit through it and think
>things like, "I can't believe how good this movie is."  

It wouldn't surprise me if you felt that way about "Grand Illusion" or
"City Lights", after seeing them.  Certainly, I would rather see either of them
again, rather than re-viewing most of the films you listed.  Matter of taste,
again, but you might well revise your lists after seeing these films.
                        Peter Reiher
                        rei...@amethyst.jpl.nasa.gov
                        (DO NOT send to rei...@amethyst.uucp)
                        . . . cit-vax!elroy!jato!jade!reiher

 
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