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Stone me

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Nov 14, 2012, 2:09:23 PM11/14/12
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I thought this b&w Western with Gregory Peck as
a somewhat weary gunfighter, and found myself
admiring it a lot.
It has the usual irritations that come from movies with
a tight budget, clothing all new and uncreased, a general
sense that everyone had had a shower only an hour before,
and a set that looked the image of a backlot in LA.
That apart, I would not have criticised Peck except that I
read a good review which correctly pointed out that he
played the same nice guy in all his movies.
The plot was well above the average movie with these looks,
and I didn't feel too disturbed by Peck's interpretation.

I found that the ending was well worth waiting for with it's
moral tale, sensitively handled.
(This has been followed by numerous movies which dealing
with this topic,even this plot, which for the most part were flops)

Stone me.

dm16...@gmail.com

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Nov 14, 2012, 6:25:55 PM11/14/12
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I remember _The Gunfighter_ as being one of the more intelligent westerns of the fifties. The Peck character Jimmy Ringo is an obvious reference to the real life western character Johnny Ringo a rather mysterious bad man of the old West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ringo

Dave M

Mack A. Damia

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Nov 14, 2012, 6:34:18 PM11/14/12
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"Tombstone" had Doc Holiday kill him in a gunfight, but nobody knows
for certain.

"You're no daisy."

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dm16...@gmail.com

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Nov 14, 2012, 7:11:01 PM11/14/12
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...and nobody knows how he died - Suicide or murder?

Dave M

notbob

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Nov 14, 2012, 11:23:46 PM11/14/12
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On 2012-11-14, Stone me <m...@hollywood.com> wrote:

>
> I thought this b&w Western with Gregory Peck as
> a somewhat weary gunfighter, and found myself
> admiring it a lot.

Definitely one of Peck's better movies. My favorite Peck western has
always been The Big Country, despite him playing his usual good guy
schtick. My all time fave Peck flick is The Boys From Brazil. He
gets seriously evil in that one. "Shut up you ugly bitch!".

I like seeing the perennial good guys getting seriously pissed,
occasionally. I'm real tired of Jimmie Stewart's good guy goofiness,
so it's a real pleasure to watch him go postal on Dan Duryea in
Winchester 73. "Eat wood, Dan ...ggrrrr..!!".

heh heh....

nb

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John Dean

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Nov 15, 2012, 12:33:25 AM11/15/12
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<dm16...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a14c5a73-e7ec-41c1...@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:09:16 PM UTC-5, Stone me wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/dxeskoa
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought this b&w Western with Gregory Peck as
>>
>> a somewhat weary gunfighter, and found myself
>>
>> admiring it a lot.
>>
>> It has the usual irritations that come from movies with
>>
>> a tight budget, clothing all new and uncreased, a general
>>
>> sense that everyone had had a shower only an hour before,
>>
>> and a set that looked the image of a backlot in LA.
>>
>> That apart, I would not have criticised Peck except that I
>>
>> read a good review which correctly pointed out that he
>>
>> played the same nice guy in all his movies.
>>
>> The plot was well above the average movie with these looks,
>>
>> and I didn't feel too disturbed by Peck's interpretation.
>>
>>
>>
>> I found that the ending was well worth waiting for with it's
>>
>> moral tale, sensitively handled.
>>
>> (This has been followed by numerous movies which dealing
>>
>> with this topic,even this plot, which for the most part were flops)
>>
>
>
> I remember _The Gunfighter_ as being one of the more intelligent westerns
> of the fifties. The Peck character Jimmy Ringo is an obvious reference to
> the real life western character Johnny Ringo a rather mysterious bad man
> of the old West.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ringo
>
> Dave M

Dave M? You are Mysterious Dave Mather AICMFP.

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John Dean

Halmyre

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Nov 15, 2012, 2:32:05 AM11/15/12
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One of my memories of the film is Millard Mitchell's performance as
the sheriff, particularly when he kicks forty shades of shit out of
the young punk and sends him on his way. Must have been pretty violent
scene for its day.

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Halmyre

dm16...@gmail.com

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Nov 15, 2012, 3:20:55 AM11/15/12
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No - but is a very interesting character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterious_Dave_Mather

Dave M

dm16...@gmail.com

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Nov 15, 2012, 3:40:58 AM11/15/12
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On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:23:48 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2012-11-14, Stone me <m...@hollywood.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > I thought this b&w Western with Gregory Peck as
>
> > a somewhat weary gunfighter, and found myself
>
> > admiring it a lot.
>
>
>
> Definitely one of Peck's better movies. My favorite Peck western has
>
> always been The Big Country, despite him playing his usual good guy
>
> schtick. My all time fave Peck flick is The Boys From Brazil. He
>
> gets seriously evil in that one. "Shut up you ugly bitch!".
>
>
>
> I like seeing the perennial good guys getting seriously pissed,
>
> occasionally. I'm real tired of Jimmie Stewart's good guy goofiness,
>
> so it's a real pleasure to watch him go postal on Dan Duryea in
>
> Winchester 73. "Eat wood, Dan ...ggrrrr..!!".
>
>
>
> heh heh....
>
>
>
> nb
>
>
>
I liked Peck as Lewt in _Duel in the Sun_ A very bad character indeed.

Dave M

mikeos

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Nov 15, 2012, 6:46:36 PM11/15/12
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On 15/11/2012 04:23, notbob wrote:
>
> I like seeing the perennial good guys getting seriously pissed,
> occasionally. I'm real tired of Jimmie Stewart's good guy goofiness,
> so it's a real pleasure to watch him go postal on Dan Duryea in
> Winchester 73. "Eat wood, Dan ...ggrrrr..!!".

Wouldn't say he was much of a good guy in some of those 50s Anthony Mann
westerns. Selfish loner in "The Far Country", bitter and self-centred
bounty hunter in "The Naked Spur"

mikeos

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Nov 15, 2012, 6:48:16 PM11/15/12
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On 15/11/2012 00:11, dm16...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> "Tombstone" had Doc Holiday kill him in a gunfight, but nobody knows for certain.

> ...and nobody knows how he died - Suicide or murder?

High-fat diet?

notbob

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Nov 15, 2012, 9:41:26 PM11/15/12
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On 2012-11-15, mikeos <mik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wouldn't say he was much of a good guy in some of those 50s Anthony Mann
> westerns. Selfish loner in "The Far Country", bitter and self-centred
> bounty hunter in "The Naked Spur"

Yes, those were Jimmie faves of mine. Likewise Bend in the River,
another Mann/Stewart effort. But none of those had ol' Jimmy bare his
fangs like '73. ;)
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