20 strangest movies ever.
Man...an Ancient Race
wanderers(kaufman)
face of another(teshigahara)
profound desire of the gods(imamura)
color of pomengrannies(parajadnov)
okay, just 4.
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City of Lost Children
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Meet the Feebles
The Trial
Nekromantic
Face of Another
Onibaba
Brazil
Seconds
Spiderbaby
Zardoz
Stalker
Xtro
Time Bandits
Wild Zero
Multiple Maniacs
The Wizard of Gore
Mark
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Gummo
The Reflecting Skin
Torsus
Up
Candy
Andy Averill
"Man...an Ancient Race" <manananci...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> not necessarily good nor bad. but very very....s.tr..an..g....e.
1. Sunset Boulevard (strange but brilliant)
2. 2001 (strange but dull)
3. Last Year at Marienbad
4. Lost Highway (at least Eraserhead made sense)
5. How I Won the War
6. Olympia (1938) (very creepy)
7. Mon Oncle
8. Ivan the Terrible, parts I II and III
9. The Scarlet Empress
10. The Brave Little Toaster
11. Distant Voices, Still Lives
12. The Match Factory Girl (one of my faves)
13. In the Realm of the Senses
14. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
15. Shoah (let's face it)
16. Crash
17. Happiness
18. La Casa dell'esorcismo (take your pick of four different English titles)
19. Querelle, or anything by Fassbinder
20. anything by Ed Wood, but that's almost too easy...
... which got me to thinking: most of these movies were strange on purpose.
How about a list of The Strangest Movies That the Director Thought Were
Perfectly Normal? Or the Strangest Picture to Win the Best Picture Oscar?
(I vote for The English Patient)
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Jeffrey Davis
Slither
The Pharmacist (a short)
Winter Kills
The American Success Company
The Tenant
Heart of Glass
Even Dwarfs Started Small
The Ecstasy of the Sculptor Steiner (short)
The Garden of the Finzi-Continis
Every Man for Himself and God Against All
Strozek
Bank Shot (absolutely terrible, too. Do not watch this movie)
The King of Marvin Gardens
Dead Man
City of Lost Children
The Borrowers
The Witches
Return to Oz
Ghost Dog
Obviously some directors just make strange movies. Herzog, for instance.
Steve Oldham
com> wrote:
>14. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
I'm curious why you found that strange. The story is very
conventional. It's the most mesmerizing musical I've ever seen....but
strange?
Steve
Henry Glenworthy
> 1. Sunset Boulevard (strange but brilliant)
> 2. 2001 (strange but dull)
>>>>
"Dull"? Hmmmm, I guess it might be, to the generation
brought up on MTV videos where the longest take is
three seconds....
=================================
Doorman 1
>
>>>>>
>
>"Dull"? Hmmmm, I guess it might be, to the generation
>brought up on MTV videos where the longest take is
>three seconds....
>
>=================================
2001 was dull long before mtv shortened my kid's attention span.
russ
Andy Averill
"Steve Oldham" <stev...@rocsoft.net> wrote in message
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Don't you think it's strange to hear the most banal everyday dialog set to
music?
Jeffrey Davis
Andy Averill wrote:
> "Steve Oldham" <stev...@rocsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:n483htg0ucmj7ldnm...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 27 May 2001 16:57:37 -0500, "Andy Averill" <andya at lisco dot
> > com> wrote:
> >
> > >14. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
> >
> > I'm curious why you found that strange. The story is very
> > conventional. It's the most mesmerizing musical I've ever seen....but
> > strange?
>
> Don't you think it's strange to hear the most banal everyday dialog set to
> music?
>
It's just like life.
Arminius
Andy Averill <andya at lisco dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "Man...an Ancient Race" <manananci...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OLuX3Xt5AHA.199@cpmsnbbsa09...
> > not necessarily good nor bad. but very very....s.tr..an..g....e.
>
> 1. Sunset Boulevard (strange but brilliant)
> 2. 2001 (strange but dull)
> 3. Last Year at Marienbad
> 4. Lost Highway (at least Eraserhead made sense)
> 5. How I Won the War
> 6. Olympia (1938) (very creepy)
> 7. Mon Oncle
> 8. Ivan the Terrible, parts I II and III
> 9. The Scarlet Empress
> 10. The Brave Little Toaster
> 11. Distant Voices, Still Lives
> 12. The Match Factory Girl (one of my faves)
> 13. In the Realm of the Senses
> 14. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
> 15. Shoah (let's face it)
> 16. Crash
> 17. Happiness
> 18. La Casa dell'esorcismo (take your pick of four different English
titles)
> 19. Querelle, or anything by Fassbinder
> 20. anything by Ed Wood, but that's almost too easy...
Andy, I hate to tell you this, but all of these are quite normal compared to
Eraserhead, Tetsuo, or Performance.
>
> ... which got me to thinking: most of these movies were strange on
purpose.
> How about a list of The Strangest Movies That the Director Thought Were
> Perfectly Normal? Or the Strangest Picture to Win the Best Picture Oscar?
> (I vote for The English Patient)
I'm not sure a truly strange film has ever won best picture. *A Clockwork
Orange* was kind of wierd, but of course it did not win. *Silence of the
Lambs* was wierd by Academy standards, but a drop in the bucket compared to
the cinema of transgression.
--
Arminius
Lena gets her son ready for school
She says "on these streets, Charles
You've got to understand the rules
If an officer stops you
Promise you'll always be polite,
that you'll never ever run away
Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"
--Bruce Springsteen
Andy Averill
"Henry Glenworthy" <Henery_G...@xoregontrail.net> wrote in message
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> "Andy Averill" <andya at lisco dot com> blurped:
>
> > 1. Sunset Boulevard (strange but brilliant)
> > 2. 2001 (strange but dull)
>
> >>>>
>
> "Dull"? Hmmmm, I guess it might be, to the generation
> brought up on MTV videos where the longest take is
> three seconds....
MTV generation? Well I do watch it a lot, but in fact I'm old enough to be
their grandparent if you allow for some shockingly early pregnancies. In
fact I saw 2001 the first week it opened, at the Cinerama theater on Times
Square. From the opening shot of the three gigantic celestial bodies to the
closing light show, it really "blew my mind," as we used to say. And that
was the original uncut version! But how many times can you sit and watch a
paper cutout move across a backdrop to the accompaniment of a Strauss waltz?
Even writing that makes me think I'm describing a pretentious student film.
The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com
Roger D. White
"Olympia (1938) (Very creepy)"
Really?
I was pleasantly surprised with the film. Rather than being a pro Nazi
propaganda piece, I thought it was a basically fair and impartial record
of the '36 Games. Plus, it had an artistic prologue/epilogue that was
rather nice, and the diving sequences, co-ordinated to some interesting
music, were brilliant.
~ Roger
Paul Gallagher
Drunken Wutang, directed by Cheung-Yan Yuen (one of the Yuen brothers
and Charlie's Angels' fight choreographer).
http://www.badmovies.org/movies/dwutang/index.html
Babobilicons (Daina Krumins)
Gimme Gimme Octopus, a TV series -- to see a few a seconds of it,
go to http://superbad.com/1/om/.
Paul
Kerro
The Astrologer
Spider Baby
The Cars That Ate Paris
Stalker
A Reason To Live
Bad Boy Bubby
God Told Me To
Society
The Demon Seed
The Corpse Grinders
Tommy (!)
James L. Neibaur
include Christopher Nolan's challenging films like Following and the current
Memento, which veer of the linear path.
I hasten to add that I think these are good movies, in spite of (or maybe
because of) their strangeness.
JN
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Steve Oldham
com> wrote:
>Don't you think it's strange to hear the most banal everyday dialog set to
>music?
Strange would be the wrong word for me. Refreshing, revolutionary,
intoxicating, would be a few. In a way, TUOC eliminates the
"strangeness" that is inherent in most other musicals. The over-blown,
melodramatic elements are gone.
The seamlessness of that film always amazes me.
Steve
lastan...@webtv.net
Re: Strange Movies
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SIESTA w Ellen Barkin
RUN, LOLA, RUN
IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES
THE SHANGAI GESTURE
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TODD TAMANEND CLARK
Spellbound (1945)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
The Killer Shrews (1959)
The Living Head (1959)
The Tingler (1959)
The Mask (1961)
The Brainiac (1961)
The Snake People (1968)
Performance (1969)
200 Motels (1971)
Space Is The Place (1974)
Eraserhead (1977)
The Manitou (1978)
Altered States (1980)
Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Fire Walk with Me (1992)
Natural Born Killers (1994)
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Andy Averill
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Well, that's what I found creepy. It's hard to enjoy lyrical sequences of
athletes doing their thing when you can't get the background of the whole
thing out of your mind.
Andy Averill
"Arminius" <armi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "strange." Most people would
restrict that term to "cult" films, with low-budget production values or
grotesque imagery, but I'm more interested in other categories:
1) Movies with a strong "experimental" concept that doesn't work, to the
point where you wonder "what was he thinking?": How I Won the War, Mon
Oncle, 2001, Shoah
2) Movies that are perfectly normal from a technical point of view, but are
disturbing because of their plot or subtext: Happiness, The Match Factory
Girl, Olympia, Sunset Blvd
I think Eraserhead makes perfectly good sense once you accept the premise --
that it's a depiction of a nightmare done in an avant-garde style. But can
you explain Lost Highway to me? Performance I think is an artifact of the
swinging 60's in London, a bit too self-consciously "decadent" to be really
strange. I haven't seen Tetsuo, but I admit it sounds like the strangest of
all....
Andy Averill
"TODD TAMANEND CLARK" <tama...@charterpa.net> wrote in message
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> Chronologically:
>
> Spellbound (1945)
> The Flying Serpent (1946)
> The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
> Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
> The Killer Shrews (1959)
> The Living Head (1959)
> The Tingler (1959)
> The Mask (1961)
> The Brainiac (1961)
> The Snake People (1968)
> Performance (1969)
> 200 Motels (1971)
> Space Is The Place (1974)
> Eraserhead (1977)
> The Manitou (1978)
> Altered States (1980)
> Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
> Naked Lunch (1991)
> Fire Walk with Me (1992)
> Natural Born Killers (1994)
Oops, I forgot that one, unquestionably one of the strangest ever. But most
of the rest of yours are horror movies, and aren't they supposed to be
strange?
Starcap 50
Santa Sangre (1989).
Dennis
aemilia
<tama...@charterpa.net> woke up compelled to spew forth:
What about Brazil and Delicatessen?
and if you are going to post to alt.surrealism, you would have to
mention Un Chien Andalou.
aemilia
Andrew Hoch
one of the strangest that I have ever seen. Robert Altman's "3 Women"
(1977) The audience is brought into a world of outcasts of society.
Shelly Duvall's character is under the impression that she is popular
with everyone she works and lives with but the exact opposite is true.
All of the co workers at the nursing home cannot stand her , and even
her newest roomate begins to develop a disliking for her.
In the beginning the roomate Pinky (Sissy Spacek) is a new arrival in
town and comes to work in a nursing home. She seems to idolize Duvall's
character through the beginning of the picture . But Pinky is no
innocent child as the viewer will soon piece together after watching the
movie. The first strange aspect of this story is how any reasonable
person (Pinky) would even pretend to have a friendship with such a
loser.
The third woman is a painter played by Janice Rule who creates these
beautiful murals surrounding and covering the inside of the swimming
pool at the apartment complex. Some of the paintings resemble Egyptian
drawings, while others are fantastic monsters which probably have a
special meaning for her. The great thing about her performance is that
it consists of facial expressions. She has practically no dialog.
During the film Pinky develops an obsession with the artist which is
shared between them and only them. Only this time I think Pinky really
feels admiration for this woman and has curiosity for her works .
The connection between these three women is the most strange part of
the film. Pinky is drawn to one of the nightmarish paintings at the
bottom of the pool. Her life living with Duvall is not exactly social.
In fact they both live a nightmare, one of not being accepted by the
people around them. Ms. Duvall finds an outlet in her job as a
caregiver for elderly people. The artist uses her talents to express
her feelings of the world around her. But Pinky is not able to express
herself in any way, until the moment when Pinky is some how able to
exchange personalities with Ms. Duvall.
I wish I could go on but It would mean giving away crucial details
which would ruin the fun for others here. This film has left an
impression on me which is not like any before or since. I urge everyone
to see it and experience something special.
ajh
john adams
"aemilia" <aemilia...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> and if you are going to post to alt.surrealism, you would have to
> mention Un Chien Andalou.
And of course The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.,
Yor, the Hunter from the Future... are all quintessential surrealist
pieces. Let us not forget also The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes
and Shaggy D.A., which were somewhere in the middle of that era.
john
Brandon Freels
> and if you are going to post to alt.surrealism, you would have to
> mention Un Chien Andalou.
Don't forget El Topo, The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre (all Jodorowsky), and,
of course Argento's Deep Red, Stendhal Syndrome, Tenebre, Creepers,
Suspiria, etc.
Carsten van Derhaag
Mark Das
blasphemous.
-Mark
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Karl Rackwitz
Blue in the Face
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (don't ask me why; fine film though)
The Big Lebowski (the typical, very funny Coen strangeness)
Stranger Than Paradise :-) (excellent)
Dead Man
Dazed and Confused (great)
Dune
Silent Tongue
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
Karl
Wull
it is one of my favorites, not strange at all. At least for someone who
has read the book.
What bothered me most was that the poor reception of the movie will
probably prevent any of the other books (of which some were better) from
being made into movies
Wull
Howard Brazee
> MTV generation? Well I do watch it a lot, but in fact I'm old enough to be
> their grandparent if you allow for some shockingly early pregnancies. In
> fact I saw 2001 the first week it opened, at the Cinerama theater on Times
> Square. From the opening shot of the three gigantic celestial bodies to the
> closing light show, it really "blew my mind," as we used to say. And that
> was the original uncut version! But how many times can you sit and watch a
> paper cutout move across a backdrop to the accompaniment of a Strauss waltz?
> Even writing that makes me think I'm describing a pretentious student film.
That is a funny question - why is "how many times you can sit and watch"
meaningful measurement on whether a movie is dull. Sure pre-schoolers watch the
same movie over and over and over again, but there are SO MANY great books and
movies to watch, why waste your limited time watching ANY movie more than once
every few years?
Howard Brazee
> On Sun, 27 May 2001 16:57:37 -0500, "Andy Averill" <andya at lisco dot
> com> wrote:
>
> >14. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
>
> I'm curious why you found that strange. The story is very
> conventional. It's the most mesmerizing musical I've ever seen....but
> strange?
>
> Steve
Maybe unique is a better word than strange.
The.Central.Scru...@invalid.pobox.com
>Sorry Karl, the only movie on your list that I have seen is 'Dune' and
>it is one of my favorites, not strange at all. At least for someone who
>has read the book.
>
>What bothered me most was that the poor reception of the movie will
>probably prevent any of the other books (of which some were better) from
>being made into movies
It wasn't the strangeness. It was the extreme mediocrety of the movie which
butchered the book's plot every way possible.
The only thing worse was the tv miniseries which didn't use a single actor with
a whole two weeks acting experience. The whole thing might have been a time
dulled ritual.
Karl Rackwitz
"Wull" <wjma...@datarecall.net> wrote ...
> Sorry Karl, the only movie on your list that I have seen is 'Dune' and
> it is one of my favorites, not strange at all. At least for someone who
> has read the book.
>
> What bothered me most was that the poor reception of the movie will
> probably prevent any of the other books (of which some were better) from
> being made into movies
>
> Wull
>
Well, maybe it was strange for me because I hadn't read the book and it was
the first time that I saw it. (Given the general reception of the film, I
was apparently not the only one for whom it was a bit confusing.) That it
seemed strange to me, by the way, doesn't mean that I found it
uninteresting. Maybe I should simply watch it again to understand it better?
I also found After Hours strange the first time around, and it has become
one of my five favourite Scorsese movies ...
That you haven't seen all these films, is not necessarily a problem. I would
say, you can avoid Silent Tongue and Even Cowgirls Get the Blues, especially
the latter one.
Zabriskie Point, Blue in the Face and Dead Man are probably not for
everyone's taste, but you might like them nonetheless.
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie has become a favourite among the admirers of
the Cassavetes. Although I'm one of them, I still think that A Woman Under
the Influence and some others are greater films. The Big Lebowski and Dazed
and Confused are very funny (but, as in the case of After Hours, I needed a
second viewing to admire them -that could be the reason why I called them
strange.).
If you like independent movies, I recommend Stranger Than Paradise the most.
Kind regards.
Karl
Roger D. White
"what about Titanic?"
Well, what about it?
I realize the film is regularly bashed here (usually for what seem to me
to be perverse and invalid reasons), but like it or dislike it, I can't
imagine anyone finding the film "strange."
~Roger
Tulse Luper
Freaks (1932)
Week-End (1967)
Even Dwarfs Started Small (1970)
Themroc (1972)
The Phantom of Liberty (1974)
A Walk Through H (1978)
The Falls (1980)
Tetsuo (1988)
Begotten (1991)
Tulse Luper
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/surrealmovies
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The Game (1996)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Frances (1982)
The Madness of King George (1994)
Blue Velvet (1987)
The Spitfire Grill (1996)
Another Man's Poison (1951)
Dark Passage (1947)
Raintree County (1957)
Aria (1987) [strange and awful]
The Fisher King (1991)
The Madwoman of Chaillot (1969)
Naked Lunch (1991)
The Last Time I Saw Paris (1954)
The Swimmer (1968)
Spirits of the Dead (1967)
Belle Epoque (1993)
Fellini's Casanova [strange, but it gave me some satisfaction and pleasure]
(1976)
Mahler [for me, it was very good] (1974)
The Avocado Avenger
>The King of Marvin Gardens
Boy, I'm glad someone else said that. I thought I just didn't "get
it". It was one of those wacky 1970s movies that were purposely made
without a plot.
Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * Life is a tale told by an idiot;
http://world.std.com/~stacia/ * Full of sound and fury,
Remove the "feh" to reply! * Signifying nothing.
Millie James
able to understand its adoptation "Apocalyspe Now."
_ _ _ _ _
~ Millie ma...@eagle.ptialaska.net
Gordo
Lost Highway
Barton Fink
Incredible Shrinking Man
Carter Burke
I thought The Ninth Configuration was pretty damn weird, but still
good.
Arminius
Andy Averill <andya at lisco dot com> wrote in message
I had no trouble with any of these, I'm afraid. I'm not the huge fan of
2001 that some folks around here are, but I certainly get the message of
growth that Kubrick is conveying. Further, I think *Shoah* is more
excruciating than strange. (My wife just got back from Auchwitz, BTW. As
far as we can tell, her bags are still there.)
>
> 2) Movies that are perfectly normal from a technical point of view, but
are
> disturbing because of their plot or subtext: Happiness, The Match Factory
> Girl, Olympia, Sunset Blvd
>
How is *Sunset Blvd.* strange at all? Original, yes, but I wouldn't call it
wierd. I do see where you're coming from with *Olympia*. In my research, I
look at a lot of back issues of *Romanian Review*. It is always a little
disconcerting to see Ceaucescu's introduction to each issue.
> I think Eraserhead makes perfectly good sense once you accept the
premise --
> that it's a depiction of a nightmare done in an avant-garde style. But
can
> you explain Lost Highway to me? Performance I think is an artifact of the
> swinging 60's in London, a bit too self-consciously "decadent" to be
really
> strange. I haven't seen Tetsuo, but I admit it sounds like the strangest
of
> all...
Once you accept the premise of *Eraserhead*...now why did you have trouble
with *Olympia* again:-)
--
Arminius
Lena gets her son ready for school
She says "on these streets, Charles
You've got to understand the rules
If an officer stops you
Promise you'll always be polite,
that you'll never ever run away
Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"
--Bruce Springsteen
Trainspotter
<manananci...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>not necessarily good nor bad. but very very....s.tr..an..g....e.
>
>wanderers(kaufman)
>face of another(teshigahara)
>profound desire of the gods(imamura)
>color of pomengrannies(parajadnov)
>
>okay, just 4.
The strangest I ever saw was at Sundance this year. The film maker
even admitted it was strange, and that it had sat in a can in his
closet for about 30 years until technology made it possible to project
it in a theater. It was called, "The Beaver Trilogy"
It was the same story told and retold, three times.
The first time, it was for real. The film maker (then working for a TV
station in Salt Lake City) had taken a new video camera out to the TV
station's parking lot to try it out and had run into a goofball, a
wanna-be actor & dreamer from a small town (Beaver, Utah), hanging out
there. The goofball (with apologies for calling him that) cut up for
the camera, singing, dancing, telling jokes, doing impersonations,
etc. He was really quite engaging. Then he said bye and drove away.
Later, he invited the film maker out to his home town to cover a
talent show (with local townsfolk performing). The goofball himself
did a a singing impersonation of Olivia-Newton-John. Much of the video
coverage was showing him getting made up in drag. (The local
undertaker did the makeup.). The rset was the talent show itself.
The video was the first telling. Like I said, it was for real.
The goofball's story (and what the film maker imagined to be the story
behind the story) intrigued him for years afterward, so that he
eventually turned it into a script, with the parking lot scene, with
the makeup and talent show scenes, and with a few fictionalized
parts/dialogues in between. He emphasized the theme that the goofball
was likeable, sincere and earnest, and actually had some talent - but
was underappreciated and misunderstood by his home town, and mostly
laughed at. The film maker actually got Sean Penn (before he became
famous) to play the goofball for a small fee (pizza) and shot the
whole film for $100 (in B&W, and it looked like 8mm).
That was the second telling.
A few years later, he decided to re-shoot the film with different
actors and "higher" production values (Super-8 and color?). He fleshed
out more scenes and character development, and had the goofball,
become mortified and actually contemplate suicide at the end. By then,
you really felt for the goofball.
That was the third telling.
For Sundance and an earlier showing in New York, the film maker had
taken these three shorts, strung them together, and transferred them
to projection prints (or maybe it was all digitally projected, I don't
know). During Q&A, the film maker refused to tell us who the goofball
was or what ever happened to him. He also couldn't say if this film is
ever going into serious distribution.
My apologies to the original goofball if he's reading this. I mean
"goofball" only in the kindest way, with compassion and affection.
The film maker? Trent Harris, who also made "Plan 10 From Outer Space"
(1995)
(I am crossposting to rec.arts.movies.production as a contribution to
the subject of "Independent Filmaker".)
-Mike
Arminius
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<much snippage>
> The Madness of King George (1994)
How so?
> Blue Velvet (1987)
This I totally understand. Love the movie, but it is seriously bent.
> Dark Passage (1947)
Again, how so? The POV used was not revolutionary by 1947, except perhaps
in its duration.
> The Fisher King (1991)
???? Williams is a spas to a degree, but the film is fairly conventional
otherwise.
> Naked Lunch (1991)
I agree wholeheartedly.
> The Swimmer (1968)
Again, why? (Of course, I may be pulling a *Dune* here; I understand the
movie perfectly because I read the story first. Both story and film are
great.)
Thanks for putting me on to some great flicks, BTW.
Has anyone mentioned *The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover*?
GC
>The Brothers Quay stuff, like Street of Crocodiles is strange.
>I hasten to add that I think these are good movies, in spite of (or maybe
>because of) their strangeness.
I like their short features, but I found while I started being
fascinated watching INSTITUTE BENJAMENTA, it was really dragging by the
end. But it definitely belongs in this list.
GC
>Girl,
This isn't that strange compared to the same director's LENINGRAD
COWBOYS GO AMERICA or even HAMLET GOES BUSINESS ("Hamlet" staged in a
rubber duck factory).
Brian
And how about VideoDrome?
Brian
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Dennis
Jeff Coleman
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> Has anyone mentioned "The Dark Backward" yet? Definitely a strange
movie.
>
> Dennis
Was that the picture where Judd Nelson has an arm growing out of his back?
I really dug that movie when I saw it, I'd love to see it again!
Jeff
megans
punch. :-)
It is weird, and I LOVE it. Just be sure you've dosed up on your Prozac
before settling in for an evening's entertainment.
Everyone should watch it just for the dinner prep with the Sociables and
Puddin' Tarts--one of my favorite scenes of all time.
Megan
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> There is one film everyone has forgotten about and this is absolutely
> one of the strangest that I have ever seen. Robert Altman's "3 Women"
> (1977) The audience is brought into a world of outcasts of society.
> Shelly Duvall's character is under the impression that she is popular
> with everyone she works and lives with but the exact opposite is true.
> All of the co workers at the nursing home cannot stand her , and even
> her newest roomate begins to develop a disliking for her.
>
> In the beginning the roomate Pinky (Sissy Spacek) is a new arrival in
> town and comes to work in a nursing home. She seems to idolize Duvall's
> character through the beginning of the picture . But Pinky is no
> innocent child as the viewer will soon piece together after watching the
> movie. The first strange aspect of this story is how any reasonable
> person (Pinky) would even pretend to have a friendship with such a
> loser.
>
> The third woman is a painter played by Janice Rule who creates these
> beautiful murals surrounding and covering the inside of the swimming
> pool at the apartment complex. Some of the paintings resemble Egyptian
> drawings, while others are fantastic monsters which probably have a
> special meaning for her. The great thing about her performance is that
> it consists of facial expressions. She has practically no dialog.
> During the film Pinky develops an obsession with the artist which is
> shared between them and only them. Only this time I think Pinky really
> feels admiration for this woman and has curiosity for her works .
>
> The connection between these three women is the most strange part of
> the film. Pinky is drawn to one of the nightmarish paintings at the
> bottom of the pool. Her life living with Duvall is not exactly social.
> In fact they both live a nightmare, one of not being accepted by the
> people around them. Ms. Duvall finds an outlet in her job as a
> caregiver for elderly people. The artist uses her talents to express
> her feelings of the world around her. But Pinky is not able to express
> herself in any way, until the moment when Pinky is some how able to
> exchange personalities with Ms. Duvall.
>
> I wish I could go on but It would mean giving away crucial details
> which would ruin the fun for others here. This film has left an
> impression on me which is not like any before or since. I urge everyone
> to see it and experience something special.
>
> ajh
>
Ragnar Brynjulfsson
it was incredibly strange. Then again my taste in movies is kind of strange
so maybe I don't count. It was interesting to see how the director treated
the same subject matter three times, and how different it turned out.
As for my vote on a incredibly strange film I saw a few years ago I'd have
to say:
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up
Zombies...which is also known as Diabolical Dr. Voodoo, The Incredibly Mixed
Up Zombie and The Teenage Psycho Meets Bloody Mary.
It's a zombie flick with lots of leg kicking dancing scenes in full
length....plus I think it's the movie with the longest title ever made.
Second, I would put Peter Jacksons, Meet the Feebles. How he ever came up
with combining splatter and the Muppet Show I don't know. But it works
great.
Ragnar
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Parry
> > "aemilia" <aemilia...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > "TODD TAMANEND CLARK" <tama...@charterpa.net> wrote:
> > > Chronologically:
> > > Spellbound (1945)
> > > The Flying Serpent (1946)
> > > The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
> > > Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
> > > The Killer Shrews (1959)
> > > The Living Head (1959)
> > > The Tingler (1959)
> > > The Mask (1961)
> > > The Brainiac (1961)
> > > The Snake People (1968)
> > > Performance (1969)
> > > 200 Motels (1971)
> > > Space Is The Place (1974)
> > > Eraserhead (1977)
> > > The Manitou (1978)
> > > Altered States (1980)
> > > Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
> > > Naked Lunch (1991)
> > > Fire Walk with Me (1992)
> > > Natural Born Killers (1994)
> >
> > mention Un Chien Andalou.
>
> And of course The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.,
That’s one fine movie.
> Yor, the Hunter from the Future... are all quintessential surrealist
> pieces. Let us not forget also The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes
> and Shaggy D.A., which were somewhere in the middle of that era.
Yes, any standard of strange that would include “Koyaanisqatsi” over
“The Shaggy D.A.” is suspect. And, as another poster suggested, horror
films are the science of strange and hundreds of horror titles would
supersede most everything on the list. “The Horrible Dr. Hichcock,” for
one.
Some of the films listed don’t strike me as strange. Strange requires a
degree of the incomprehensible. “Natural Born Killers” seems to me
strictly rational, a director playing with topicality. Lynch is shtick.
In the 1930’s, there was a social commentary filmed from a script by a
prominent American capitalist. Can anyone remember this film’s title or
other details?
William Blatty’s “The Ninth Configuration” is a strange film because
after it spends most of its time in the shadows between madness and
normalcy it delivers itself to the derangement of religious thought. All
religious films are strange.
“Planet of the Apes” depicts a strange world. The Apes series is strange
for its plummeting production values and its disregard for plot
continuity. The original “Planet of the Apes” was a satire on religious
fundamentalism; the remake will be strange if it downplays this aspect
of the story.
Ed Wood’s “Glen or Glenda?” is strange by any standard.
Hollywood blockbusters are strange because they spend fortunes to make
films as brain-dead as the King of Nepal. It’s strange too that people
pay to see them.
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Parry
>
> "aemilia" wrote
> > and if you are going to post to alt.surrealism, you would have to
> > mention Un Chien Andalou.
>
> of course Argento's Deep Red, Stendhal Syndrome, Tenebre, Creepers,
> Suspiria, etc.
I don’t know that these titles fit in the poster’s original list, for
which the idea of “strange” is not a far throw from “crappy.”
john adams
"Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > And of course The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.,
>
> That's one fine movie.
I underestimate your tastes (or lack of) parry.
> > Yor, the Hunter from the Future... are all quintessential surrealist
> > pieces. Let us not forget also The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes
> > and Shaggy D.A., which were somewhere in the middle of that era.
>
> Yes, any standard of strange that would include "Koyaanisqatsi" over
> "The Shaggy D.A." is suspect. And, as another poster suggested, horror
> films are the science of strange and hundreds of horror titles would
> supersede most everything on the list. "The Horrible Dr. Hichcock," for
> one.
>
> Some of the films listed don't strike me as strange. Strange requires a
> degree of the incomprehensible. "Natural Born Killers" seems to me
> strictly rational, a director playing with topicality. Lynch is shtick.
>
> In the 1930's, there was a social commentary filmed from a script by a
> prominent American capitalist. Can anyone remember this film's title or
> other details?
>
> William Blatty's "The Ninth Configuration" is a strange film because
> after it spends most of its time in the shadows between madness and
> normalcy it delivers itself to the derangement of religious thought. All
> religious films are strange.
>
> "Planet of the Apes" depicts a strange world. The Apes series is strange
> for its plummeting production values and its disregard for plot
> continuity. The original "Planet of the Apes" was a satire on religious
> fundamentalism; the remake will be strange if it downplays this aspect
> of the story.
>
I haven't heard much about it, only saw a few trailer images, but with
tim burton working it it may have something interesting or imaginitive,
to offer in the way sleepyhollow or some of his others were effective at
drawing up dark peculiar realms. I won't speculate on plot values for now.
I don't really seem to have much use for the word "strange" most of the time.
Or I shoudl say usually when i hear it applied towards a movie, I never seem
to agree with the use. An example, I recently saw A Friend Like Harry, and the
people who accompanied me felt mostly compelled to describe it as "weird".
Somehow they liked it, but it was just weird. Meaning, i think, that despite
being compelled to a degree, they didn't allow themselves to entirely warm up to
it, instead resigning themselves to safer more conventional ground. Well that's fine -
one can only expect so much from one's family (before having to off them - see
'a friend like harry').
john
Rick
How can it be that "Tetsuo: The Iron Man" hasn't been metioned yet?
--
Rick
The public wants what the public gets
But I don't get what this society wants
Andy Averill
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> Andy Averill wrote:
>
> > MTV generation? Well I do watch it a lot, but in fact I'm old enough to
be
> > their grandparent if you allow for some shockingly early pregnancies.
In
> > fact I saw 2001 the first week it opened, at the Cinerama theater on
Times
> > Square. From the opening shot of the three gigantic celestial bodies to
the
> > closing light show, it really "blew my mind," as we used to say. And
that
> > was the original uncut version! But how many times can you sit and
watch a
> > paper cutout move across a backdrop to the accompaniment of a Strauss
waltz?
> > Even writing that makes me think I'm describing a pretentious student
film.
>
> That is a funny question - why is "how many times you can sit and watch"
> meaningful measurement on whether a movie is dull. Sure pre-schoolers
watch the
> same movie over and over and over again, but there are SO MANY great books
and
> movies to watch, why waste your limited time watching ANY movie more than
once
> every few years?
>
Believe me, I won't be wasting any of my time watching 2001 again.
Andy Averill
That's what you get for flying Luftwaffe, oops I mean Lufthansa.
> >
> > 2) Movies that are perfectly normal from a technical point of view, but
> are
> > disturbing because of their plot or subtext: Happiness, The Match
Factory
> > Girl, Olympia, Sunset Blvd
> >
>
> How is *Sunset Blvd.* strange at all? Original, yes, but I wouldn't call
it
> wierd. I do see where you're coming from with *Olympia*. In my research,
I
> look at a lot of back issues of *Romanian Review*. It is always a little
> disconcerting to see Ceaucescu's introduction to each issue.
>
Hmm, let's see -- a monkey's funeral at midnight -- rats in the swimming
pool -- a young screenwriter becoming a gigolo to a faded movie star -- she
gets delusional and thinks she's making a comeback -- the film is narrated
by a corpse -- nope, you're right, not strange at all.
> > I think Eraserhead makes perfectly good sense once you accept the
> premise --
> > that it's a depiction of a nightmare done in an avant-garde style. But
> can
> > you explain Lost Highway to me? Performance I think is an artifact of
the
> > swinging 60's in London, a bit too self-consciously "decadent" to be
> really
> > strange. I haven't seen Tetsuo, but I admit it sounds like the
strangest
> of
> > all...
>
> Once you accept the premise of *Eraserhead*...now why did you have trouble
> with *Olympia* again:-)
Oh all right, you win, Eraserhead is really really strange. But somebody
else had already listed it, so I went for Lost Highway instead.
Lila
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<SNIP>
>
> How can it be that "Tetsuo: The Iron Man" hasn't been metioned yet?
> --
> Rick
>
> The public wants what the public gets
> But I don't get what this society wants
My vote for the strangest movie ever goes to "Being John Malkovich"...
Thatone made my head spin, for hours...:))
Grtz, Lila
Brandi Weed
Brandi
Parry
>
> "Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > And of course The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.,
> >
> > That's one fine movie.
>
> I underestimate your tastes (or lack of) parry.
I’m not sure if you mean you overestimated my taste or underestimated my
lack of taste, but I’ll take it as a compliment either way.
[snip]
> > "Planet of the Apes" depicts a strange world. The Apes series is strange
> > for its plummeting production values and its disregard for plot
> > continuity. The original "Planet of the Apes" was a satire on religious
> > fundamentalism; the remake will be strange if it downplays this aspect
> > of the story.
> >
>
> I haven't heard much about it, only saw a few trailer images, but with
> tim burton working it it may have something interesting or imaginitive,
> to offer in the way sleepyhollow or some of his others were effective at
> drawing up dark peculiar realms. I won't speculate on plot values for now.
The movie sounds promising, but so did “Mars Attacks” and I thought that
was one of the worst films I’d ever seen. Its badness actually depressed
me, particularly because it came right after his best movie, “Ed Wood.”
The original “Apes” was such a sunny movie; I wonder how it will filter
through Burton’s dark lugubrious style. You’re nominated to review the
thing when it comes out.
> I don't really seem to have much use for the word "strange" most of the time.
> Or I shoudl say usually when i hear it applied towards a movie, I never seem
> to agree with the use. An example, I recently saw A Friend Like Harry, and the
> people who accompanied me felt mostly compelled to describe it as "weird".
> Somehow they liked it, but it was just weird. Meaning, i think, that despite
> being compelled to a degree, they didn't allow themselves to entirely warm up to
> it, instead resigning themselves to safer more conventional ground. Well that's fine -
> one can only expect so much from one's family (before having to off them - see
> 'a friend like harry').
I think I know what you mean. Some use the word “strange” like they’re
corking a bottle. The label contains the content: once applied to a
movie (or anything else), they no longer have to think about it. And an
idea doesn’t have to veer far from the beaten path to be considered
“strange.” In actuality, everything is strange when seen in the right
light. Strangeness should signal the desire for closer scrutiny, rather
than knee-jerk pigeonholing.
Jake Patterson
>> > > The Flying Serpent (1946)
>> > > The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
>> > > Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
>> > > The Killer Shrews (1959)
>> > > The Living Head (1959)
>> > > The Tingler (1959)
>> > > The Mask (1961)
>> > > The Brainiac (1961)
>> > > The Snake People (1968)
>> > > Performance (1969)
>> > > 200 Motels (1971)
>> > > Space Is The Place (1974)
>> > > Eraserhead (1977)
>> > > The Manitou (1978)
>> > > Altered States (1980)
>> > > Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
>> > > Naked Lunch (1991)
>> > > Fire Walk with Me (1992)
>> > > Natural Born Killers (1994)
Both Being John Malcovitch and Pi deserve a place on that list more then NBK
does. I would also nominate Delicatessen, The City of Lost Children, and I
would second Un Chien Andalou which was mentioned by someone else. I am,
however, quite ashamed to admit that the only ones on your list that I have
seen are 200 Motels, Naked Lunch, and NBK.
Dale Houstman
"Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
>
> The movie sounds promising, but so did "Mars Attacks" and I thought that
> was one of the worst films I'd ever seen. Its badness actually depressed
> me, particularly because it came right after his best movie, "Ed Wood."
Although I agree "Mars Attacks" is no "Ed Wood" I think it's a rather
enjoyable homage to the simple anarchy of Harryhausen films. It's hard to
totally dislike a film in which the Colin Powell character gets wiped out so
quickly. As for any problems with the production, we might blame it on the
usual corporate stupidity: Tim Burton didn't want to release it so soon, and
told the executives who were pushing him for an early release that it wasn't
finished. After they persisted in bugging him he finally just tossed in the
towel and let them have it. Still, I like it's obsessive destruction of
everything "good."
dmh
john adams
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> john adams wrote:
> >
> > "Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > And of course The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.,
> > >
> > > That's one fine movie.
> >
> > I underestimate your tastes (or lack of) parry.
>
> I'm not sure if you mean you overestimated my taste or underestimated my
> lack of taste, but I'll take it as a compliment either way.
I think I was trying to indicate, in one lazy maneuver, that either your tastes
were bad to embrace the movie, or by contrast highly polished to
embrace the "so bad it's good" aspects of the film. On one hand you have to respect
the unique cultural perspectives and psychological mechanisms behind
such works, and then secondly, the rational defying leaps and bounds these
attempts often make, and in particular the conflict of man vs. old world susperstitions
of nature, placed against the back drop of an otherworldly quasi sci-fi continuum.
So at once, we are forced to ask ourselves how could they have been so badly
created ,and simultaneously could they, in all honesty, have been made any better?
More study is certainly needed at the the university level.
> > > "Planet of the Apes" depicts a strange world. The Apes series is strange
> > > for its plummeting production values and its disregard for plot
> > > continuity. The original "Planet of the Apes" was a satire on religious
> > > fundamentalism; the remake will be strange if it downplays this aspect
> > > of the story.
> > >
> >
> > I haven't heard much about it, only saw a few trailer images, but with
> > tim burton working it it may have something interesting or imaginitive,
> > to offer in the way sleepyhollow or some of his others were effective at
> > drawing up dark peculiar realms. I won't speculate on plot values for now.
>
> The movie sounds promising, but so did "Mars Attacks" and I thought that
> was one of the worst films I'd ever seen. Its badness actually depressed
> me, particularly because it came right after his best movie, "Ed Wood."
> The original "Apes" was such a sunny movie; I wonder how it will filter
> through Burton's dark lugubrious style.
I can't say that I hated Mars Attacks, myself. But I am not going out to buy
the video anytime soon nor anticipating catching it again on tv. To me it was
slightly better than the Batman episodes, which aren't too worth mentioning btw.
>You're nominated to review the thing when it comes out.
Gee, what an honor; I, in turn then, nominate you to review Kiss of
the Dragon, coming to theaters near you in July as well, one of
the only new releases I am aware of at the moment. Prepare your
writing pens soon.
> > I don't really seem to have much use for the word "strange" most of the time.
> > Or I shoudl say usually when i hear it applied towards a movie, I never seem
> > to agree with the use. An example, I recently saw A Friend Like Harry, and the
> > people who accompanied me felt mostly compelled to describe it as "weird".
> > Somehow they liked it, but it was just weird. Meaning, i think, that despite
> > being compelled to a degree, they didn't allow themselves to entirely warm up to
> > it, instead resigning themselves to safer more conventional ground. Well that's fine -
> > one can only expect so much from one's family (before having to off them - see
> > 'a friend like harry').
>
> I think I know what you mean. Some use the word "strange" like they're
> corking a bottle. The label contains the content: once applied to a
> movie (or anything else), they no longer have to think about it. And an
> idea doesn't have to veer far from the beaten path to be considered
> "strange." In actuality, everything is strange when seen in the right
> light. Strangeness should signal the desire for closer scrutiny, rather
> than knee-jerk pigeonholing.
Precisely, and that there are these ambiguous controls placed on the
willingness to lend the imagination to what may be regarded 'different'.
-john
RT
Larry Anderson
What about Dr. Caligari?
Sure fits into this newsgroup list...
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AJM
suggested ("Being John Malkovich" and "Pi"). I actually liked "Pi."
My contribution: "The Cube."
On 5 Jun 2001 21:33:05 GMT, Jake Patterson <jpat...@elk.uvm.edu>
wrote:
>: >> > > Spellbound (1945)
>:
>:
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Parry
It’s nice someone got something out of that movie but it’s still one of
the most disheartening movie experiences I ever had. The swiftness of
the executions was one of the things I found irksome. For instance,
Nicholson getting offed before he had any good scenes. Seemed like a
terrific waste and missed opportunity. Combining Burton, Nicholson and
the ultraviolent Topps cards should have been a no-brainer, but there
was a corporate stink to the film. Why all those pointless characters
and sub-plots? Probably just to feed the spin-off industry of “Mars
Attacks” novels. Best one should stick to the original Topps:
“unspeakable experiments,” “blasted into oblivion, “naked and the
dead”...
Dale Houstman
"Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
Well: it ain't Citizen Kane I'ff grant you that, but - for me - the loose
jointedness and anarchistic rhythm of the film was sort of the point. As for
Nicholson being given a chance to have a good scene; well, the movie isn't
really about start turns, it's barely about humans except as victims of
unthinking aggression, and - frankly - I think Jack's star has dimmed
considerably over the years. He just seems to get broader and broader, so it
seems the hysteria of "Mars Attacks" is just about right for him. But he
does play at least two roles in the flim, and - as I recall - gets fair
amount of air time considering the ensemble cast, so I don't quite see as
like you do in this regard. But it is strange how contrary a reaction two (I
assume?) relatively intelligent people can get from the same film: far from
"disheartening" I found the random and pointless massacre of every form of
authority and "goodness" to be downright cathartic. Besides this outstanding
feature, there are more than enough startling images to quite sell the film
to me: the parade of burning cows, being chased down the country road by a
neat robot, the very disturbing female assassin-on-tracks in the White
House. I don't know: I liked it immensely. So sue me...
dmh
John Smith
> suggested ("Being John Malkovich" and "Pi"). I actually liked "Pi."
>
> My contribution: "The Cube."
>
spliffsplaff
Un Chien Andalou (1928)
Spellbound (1945)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
Glen or Glenda (1953)
Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
The Killer Shrews (1959)
The Living Head (1959)
The Tingler (1959)
The Mask (1961)
The Brainiac (1961)
The Snake People (1968)
Planet of the Apes (1968)
Performance (1969)
The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1970)
200 Motels (1971)
Space Is The Place (1974)
Shaggy D.A. (1976)
Eraserhead (1977)
The Manitou (1978)
Altered States (1980)
The Ninth Configuration (1980)
Yor, the Hunter from the Future (1982)
Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Fire Walk with Me (1992)
Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1992)
The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.
I like to add :
Stranger Then Paradise (1984)
Sweet Sweetbacks Badasssss Song (1971)
(blaxploitation movie with funky music, and a story about a guy who's
magically good at making love. At a certain point this protagonist finds
himself in a white-trash-gang with a female leader. He has to choose his
weapen to fight her. He chooses sex and wins. Wonderfull, I think,
especially because the gang accepts his choice of "weapon" AND the
outcome...)
Thundercrack! (1975)
(a black and white porn-movie with strange atmosphere and wicked humor, not
really a turn on, but really special)
*Richie*
La Cabina
Le Ballon Rouge
Freaks
La Cite Des Enfants Perdus (my fave film of all time!)
Delicatessen
spliffsplaff
maybe we could search for strange movies in the missing years?
So this becomes "The Century Of Strangness in Movies"
Chronologically:
Un Chien Andalou (1928)
Freaks (1932)
Spellbound (1945)
The Flying Serpent (1946)
The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
Glen or Glenda (1953)
Le Ballon Rouge (1956)
Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
The Killer Shrews (1959)
The Living Head (1959)
The Tingler (1959)
The Mask (1961)
The Brainiac (1961)
The Snake People (1968)
Planet of the Apes (1968)
Performance (1969)
The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1970)
200 Motels (1971)
Sweet Sweetbacks Badasssss Song (1971)
La Cabina (1972)
Space Is The Place (1974)
Thundercrack! (1975)
Shaggy D.A. (1976)
Eraserhead (1977)
The Manitou (1978)
Altered States (1980)
The Ninth Configuration (1980)
Yor, the Hunter from the Future (1982)
Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
Stranger Then Paradise (1984)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Delicatessen (1991)
Fire Walk with Me (1992)
Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1992)
La Cite Des Enfants Perdus (1995)
Gummo (1997)
The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C. (What year??)
spliffsplaff
Animation, the Beginning, 1906-27
Humorous phases of funny faces / J. Stuart Blackton (4 min.) -- La ratelier
; Fantasmagoria ; Mobiliu fedele / Emil Cohl (8 min.) -- Little Nemo /
Winsor McCay (8 min.) --Revenge of the kinematograph cameraman / Ladis
Starevich (9 min.) -- Professor Bonehead is shipwrecked / Emil Cohl (5
min.) -- Gertie the dinosaur / Winsor McCay (8 min.) -- Dinosaur and the
missing link / Willis O'Brien (6 min.) -- Sinking of the Lusitannia / Winsor
McCay (6 min.) -- Bobby Bumps puts a beanery on the bum / John Bray, Earl
Hurd Bray (5 min.) -- Out of the inkwell : perpetual motion / Max Fleischer
(5 min.) -- Modelling : Koko the clown ; Bubbles / Max Fleischer (12
min.) -- Laugh-o-grams ; Puss-n-boots / Walt Disney (11 min.) -- Alice on
the farm / Walt Disney (7 min.) -- Small town sheriff / Paul Terry (5
min.) -- Felix in Hollywood / Pat Sullivan (7 min.) -- Oswald and the
mechanical cow / Walt Disney (6 min.). 999:518
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In article <lO3U6.19536$mR5.1...@afrodite.telenet-ops.be>, "spliffsplaff"
says...
Parry
> "Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> > It's nice someone got something out of that movie but it's still one of
> > the most disheartening movie experiences I ever had. The swiftness of
> > the executions was one of the things I found irksome. For instance,
> > Nicholson getting offed before he had any good scenes. Seemed like a
> > terrific waste and missed opportunity. Combining Burton, Nicholson and
> > the ultraviolent Topps cards should have been a no-brainer, but there
> > was a corporate stink to the film. Why all those pointless characters
> > and sub-plots? Probably just to feed the spin-off industry of "Mars
> > Attacks" novels. Best one should stick to the original Topps:
> > "unspeakable experiments," "blasted into oblivion, "naked and the
> > dead"...
>
> Well: it ain't Citizen Kane I'ff grant you that, but - for me - the loose
> jointedness and anarchistic rhythm of the film was sort of the point. As for
> Nicholson being given a chance to have a good scene; well, the movie isn't
> really about start turns, it's barely about humans except as victims of
> unthinking aggression, and - frankly - I think Jack's star has dimmed
> considerably over the years. He just seems to get broader and broader, so it
> seems the hysteria of "Mars Attacks" is just about right for him. But he
> does play at least two roles in the flim, and - as I recall - gets fair
> amount of air time considering the ensemble cast, so I don't quite see as
> like you do in this regard. But it is strange how contrary a reaction two (I
> assume?)
Most definitely two.
> relatively intelligent people can get from the same film:
What’s sort of funny to me is that where there’s general accord on the
usual hot buttons -- say politics, religion, capitalism -- we have to
resort to picking apart particular films just to get an argument going.
Perhaps in a better future no one will care about waterfront property in
the MidEast and Jews and Arabs will have to kill themselves over debates
about the lost art of misé en scene.
> far from
> "disheartening" I found the random and pointless massacre of every form of
> authority and "goodness" to be downright cathartic. Besides this outstanding
> feature, there are more than enough startling images to quite sell the film
> to me: the parade of burning cows, being chased down the country road by a
> neat robot, the very disturbing female assassin-on-tracks in the White
> House. I don't know: I liked it immensely. So sue me...
The firm of Hagood, Hardy and Charnelhouse
representing
Sensible Moviegoers Everywhere
Plaintiffs,
VS.
Dale Houstman
Defendant,
Case No. 082-7826
Division 1
Jury Trial Requested
PETITION
FACTS
Comes now Plaintiff Sensible Moviegoers Everywhere, some of whom are
minors, by and through their representative the firm of Hagood, Hardy
and Charnelhouse, and for their cause of action against defendant
states:
1. That the acts and omissions herein occurred on an internationally
open-access usenet forum.
2. That the defendant Dale Houstman is an individual, that his acts and
omissions were performed on his individual behalf, and as the agent,
servant and employee of Minnesota Surrealists.
3. That on or about the 7th day of June, 2001 the defendant displayed
wanton and reckless disregard in failing to acknowledge the badness of
the motion picture turkey “Mars Attacks”
4. That punitive damages are necessary in order to punish defendant, and
to deter him and others similarly situated from committing similar acts
in the future.
WHEREFORE, the plaintiffs demand judgment against the defendant in
proportions deemed suitably unreasonable and excessive. The plaintiffs
demand the following remedies be immediately ordered:
Written and signed public admission from the defendant that once you’ve
seen one Martian go splat, you’ve seen them all go splat.
2 sacks of potatoes will be paid by the defendant to each plaintiff on
demand. Good white P.E.I. or Idaho ones, not those crummy red table
potatoes.
The defendant will spend three weeks community service polishing the
Pope’s humpback.
The defendant will work as a movie projectionist for multiple screenings
of “Pearl Harbor” in Veterans’ Homes. After each showing, he will
politely listen to the vets’ war stories without arguing the attack
wasn’t really a “surprise” and without mentioning the A-bomb.
The defendant will pay $5 billion of his own money to finance an
interplanetary mission to attach a Jerry Colonna moustache to the face
on Mars.
Degten
Dale Houstman
"Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> Dale Houstman wrote:
> > "Parry" <pa...@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3B1F08...@perfectOMITmail.com...
> > > It's nice someone got something out of that movie but it's still one
of
> > > the most disheartening movie experiences I ever had. The swiftness of
> > > the executions was one of the things I found irksome. For instance,
> > > Nicholson getting offed before he had any good scenes. Seemed like a
> > > terrific waste and missed opportunity. Combining Burton, Nicholson and
> > > the ultraviolent Topps cards should have been a no-brainer, but there
> > > was a corporate stink to the film. Why all those pointless characters
> > > and sub-plots? Probably just to feed the spin-off industry of "Mars
> > > Attacks" novels. Best one should stick to the original Topps:
> > > "unspeakable experiments," "blasted into oblivion, "naked and the
> > > dead"...
> >
> > Well: it ain't Citizen Kane I'ff grant you that, but - for me - the
loose
> > jointedness and anarchistic rhythm of the film was sort of the point. As
for
> > Nicholson being given a chance to have a good scene; well, the movie
isn't
> > unthinking aggression, and - frankly - I think Jack's star has dimmed
> > considerably over the years. He just seems to get broader and broader,
so it
> > seems the hysteria of "Mars Attacks" is just about right for him. But he
> > does play at least two roles in the flim, and - as I recall - gets fair
> > amount of air time considering the ensemble cast, so I don't quite see
as
> > like you do in this regard. But it is strange how contrary a reaction
two (I
> > assume?)
>
> Most definitely two.
Heh! I think I meant two relatively intelligent (I assume?) people. But then
again how do I know that you don't have two heads and a doppleganger?
>
>
> > relatively intelligent people can get from the same film:
>
> What's sort of funny to me is that where there's general accord on the
> usual hot buttons -- say politics, religion, capitalism -- we have to
> resort to picking apart particular films just to get an argument going.
> Perhaps in a better future no one will care about waterfront property in
> the MidEast and Jews and Arabs will have to kill themselves over debates
> about the lost art of misé en scene.
I doubt this, don't you? Since the unrest is based in religious dogma, I
can't see an end to it short of total annihilation unfortunately. Also -
while we're on the subject - could you stop building huts in my backyard.
According to the Mormon Bible (and a 1955 issue of Popular Mechanics) that
land belongs to me because a god named Mort gave it to me after my tribe
spent 40 years lost in a SuperValue produce section.
"Employee"? I gotta ask Barrett for a raise, or at least a decent sick day
policy. I'm missing a beat there.
>
> 3. That on or about the 7th day of June, 2001 the defendant displayed
> wanton and reckless disregard in failing to acknowledge the badness of
> the motion picture turkey "Mars Attacks"
>
> 4. That punitive damages are necessary in order to punish defendant, and
> to deter him and others similarly situated from committing similar acts
> in the future.
>
> WHEREFORE, the plaintiffs demand judgment against the defendant in
> proportions deemed suitably unreasonable and excessive. The plaintiffs
> demand the following remedies be immediately ordered:
>
> Written and signed public admission from the defendant that once you've
> seen one Martian go splat, you've seen them all go splat.
They's heads blewed up! I like it when they's heads blowed up.
>
> 2 sacks of potatoes will be paid by the defendant to each plaintiff on
> demand. Good white P.E.I. or Idaho ones, not those crummy red table
> potatoes.
I'm going to have to move under dark of night to some distant locale.
>
> The defendant will spend three weeks community service polishing the
> Pope's humpback.
>
I'd rather pistol whip his demented head, but whatever you say. Youse the
law.
> The defendant will work as a movie projectionist for multiple screenings
> of "Pearl Harbor" in Veterans' Homes.
Oh gawd no.
> After each showing, he will
> politely listen to the vets' war stories without arguing the attack
> wasn't really a "surprise" and without mentioning the A-bomb.
Never mention that. It didn't really happen.
>
> The defendant will pay $5 billion of his own money to finance an
> interplanetary mission to attach a Jerry Colonna moustache to the face
> on Mars.
It will be a trip taken in small installments. We can do a little R&D for
this mission by sending a team (or a robot monkey) to give George F. Will an
upper lip. I think the technology's already in place, and has been
unsuccessfully used in an attempt to give Tom Brokaw a personality, and to
make Joan Rivers look less like Medusa's pet horse.
dmh
AKieswetter
> Chronologically:
>
> Spellbound (1945)
> The Flying Serpent (1946)
> The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
> The Killer Shrews (1959)
> The Living Head (1959)
> The Tingler (1959)
> The Mask (1961)
> The Brainiac (1961)
> The Snake People (1968)
> 200 Motels (1971)
> The Manitou (1978)
> Altered States (1980)
> Naked Lunch (1991)
> Fire Walk with Me (1992)
>
> Todd Tamanend Clark
> Writer/Composer/Cultural Historian/Photographer
>
> Now Available:
> Owls In Obsidian (Instrumental CD)
> Primal Pulse Po Box 98 Greensboro PA 15338
What about;
Head(1968)
Skidoo(1968)
Brewster McCloud(1970)
3 Women(1977).
AP Kieswetter.
GC
NOTHING LASTS FOREVER - you'd think they were making it up as they went
along if they obviously hadn't gone to so much trouble.
MOTORAMA - worth seeing for the bit with Jack Nance.
Marc and/or Teresa Sparks
<dm...@citilink.com> wrote:
>Although I agree "Mars Attacks" is no "Ed Wood" I think it's a rather
>enjoyable homage to the simple anarchy of Harryhausen films. It's hard to
>totally dislike a film in which the Colin Powell character gets wiped out so
>quickly. As for any problems with the production, we might blame it on the
>usual corporate stupidity: Tim Burton didn't want to release it so soon, and
>told the executives who were pushing him for an early release that it wasn't
>finished. After they persisted in bugging him he finally just tossed in the
>towel and let them have it. Still, I like it's obsessive destruction of
>everything "good."
I didn't fully appreciate it until the scene towards the end when the
president gives the big "can't we all just get along" speech. Then I
fully understood the viewpoint of the film...cheerfully nihilistic.
Only Burton could pull that paradox off. It's certainly not one of his
best, but it's still better than 80% of the dreck that comes out of
hollywood.
keav...@elmer4.bobst.nyu.edu
TITLE :Entr'acte [videorecording] / [present par] les Ballets suedois
de Rolf de Mare ; scenario de Francis Picabia ; adapte et
realise par Rene Clair.
PUBLISHER :Chico, Calif. : Tamarelle's French Film House ; New York : New
Video [distributor : 1985?]
DESCRIPTION :1 videocassette (54 min.) : si., b&w ; 1/2 in.
OTHER AUTHOR(S) :Berliet, J.
Auric, Georges, 1899-
Ray, Man, 1890-1976.
Duchamp, Marcel, 1887-1968.
Satie, Erik, 1866-1925.
Borlin, Jean.
Mare, Rolf de
Picabia, Francis, 1879-1953.
Clair, Rene, 1898-
:New Video (Firm)
Ballets suedois.
:Tamarelle's French Film House.
OTHER TITLE(S) :A propos de Nice.
Chien andalou.
CONTENTS :Pt. 1. Le Chien andalou (16 min.) -- pt. 2 Entr'acte (18 min.)
-- pt. 3. A Propos de Nice (20 min.)
NOTE :Silent film with added musical soundtrack.
Title from data sheet.
Originally produced as silent motion picture in 1924.
A foreign film (France)
VHS.
NOTE :With: Le chien andalou - A propos de Nice.
SUMMARY :A dada-surreal film produced during the avant-garde film
movement of the 1920's. Inanimate objects start to have a will
of their own: a hearse drawn by a camel takes off on a chase
in a typical scene from this film. Conceived by the
iconoclastic poet and painter Francis PIcabia to fill a
fifteen-minute intermission between two acts of the Dada
SUMMARY :ballet Relache.
CREDITS :Photography, J. Berliet; music, Erik Satie.
PERFORMER NOTES :Jean Borlin, Erik Satie, Marcel Duchamp, Man Ray, Georges
Auric.
SUBJECT(S) :Silent films
Motion pictures, French
Short films
Surrealism in motion pictures
Experimental films
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A fun film with the slightest taste of cheese.
TITLE :8 x 8 [videorecording] : a chess-sonata in 8 movements / by
Hans Richter ; in cooperation with Jean Arp ... [et al.] ; Art
of This Century Films presents.
ALTERNATE TITLE :At beginning of film: Improvisations on chess
Eight by eight
Eight times eight
Chess-sonata in 8 movements
PUBLISHER :[New York, NY] : Arthouse, Inc., 1998.
DESCRIPTION :1 videocassette (70 min.) : sd., col. ; 1/2 in.
SERIES :Arthouse videotapes ; no. 37
OTHER AUTHOR(S) :Richter, Hans, 1888-1976.
:Arthouse Inc.
Art of This Century Films (Firm)
NOTE :Originally released as a film in 1956-57.
SUMMARY :Eight artistic, experimental variations and interpretations on
the game of chess, which use Dadaist poets, painters and other
nonactors as players.
CREDITS :Produced, directed, written by Hans Richter ; camera, Arnold
Eagle ; sound direction, Hans Richter ; lyrics, John Latouche
; sung by Oscar Brand.
PERFORMER NOTES :Jean Arp, Jacqueline Matisse, Yves Tanguy, Julien Levy,
Richard Huelsenbeck, Alexander Calder, Jean Cocteau, Willem de
Vogel, Dorothea and Max Ernst, Paul Bowles, Frederic Kiesler,
Ceal Bryson, Eugene Pellegrini and Marcel Duchamp.
TECH DETAILS :VHS format.
SUBJECT(S) :Experimental films
Feature films -- United States
Dadaism
\
In article <Zo1U6.19380$mR5.1...@afrodite.telenet-ops.be> "spliffsplaff"
<jonatha...@hotmail.com> writes:>From: "spliffsplaff"
<jonatha...@hotmail.com>>Subject: Re: Twenty Strangest Movies ?
>Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:02:33 GMT
>Chronologically:
>Un Chien Andalou (1928)
>Spellbound (1945)
>The Flying Serpent (1946)
>The Mesa Of Lost Women (1953)
>Glen or Glenda (1953)
>Attack Of The Fifty-Foot Woman (1958)
>The Killer Shrews (1959)
>The Living Head (1959)
>The Tingler (1959)
>The Mask (1961)
>The Brainiac (1961)
>The Snake People (1968)
>Planet of the Apes (1968)
>Performance (1969)
>The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1970)
>200 Motels (1971)
>Space Is The Place (1974)
>Shaggy D.A. (1976)
>Eraserhead (1977)
>The Manitou (1978)
>Altered States (1980)
>The Ninth Configuration (1980)
>Yor, the Hunter from the Future (1982)
>Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
>Naked Lunch (1991)
>Fire Walk with Me (1992)
>Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1992)
>The Land Time Forgot, One Million Years B.C.
>I like to add :
>Stranger Then Paradise (1984)
>Sweet Sweetbacks Badasssss Song (1971)
Paul L. Madarasz
Television Among the Bees," with supporting players Wm Burroughs and
Clyde Tombaugh. Now *that's* weird!
--
Paul L. Madarasz
Tucson, Baja Arizona
AKieswetter
>
> How about Conrad Rooks' CHAPPAQUA(sic) with WS Burroughs and Alan Ginsberg?
I haven't seen it but its pretty strange from what I've heard.
ZACHERIAH(George Englund,1971)-With a young Don Johnson and Country
Joe & the Fish. A bizarre and anachronistic hippie Western.
A.Kieswetter.
Millie James
his head and stopped growing. There's a lady who loved to eat herring
... lots of herring. Shockingly funny in spots. Mostly bizarre ... makes
you wonder about reality ... or - worse - the reality of reality.
_ _ _ _ _
~ Millie ma...@eagle.ptialaska.net
CultCuts
> Another one would be "The Tin Drum" about a kid named Oskar. He fell on
> his head and stopped growing. There's a lady who loved to eat herring
> ... lots of herring. Shockingly funny in spots. Mostly bizarre ... makes
> you wonder about reality ... or - worse - the reality of reality.
>
Excellent movie based on the novel by Gunter Grass. Very disturbing film
which really needs a DVD release. I was surprised that it was actually made
in Germany. I know the novel originated from there and Grass is well known
world wide, but considering the back lash that The Nasty Girl (not porn, but
a serious drama about Nazi Germany) but it definitely doesn't show the
German's in the best of light. A surreal satire of one of Germany's darkest
periods in history.
Mark
http://www.icehouse.net/cultcuts
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Stephen Cooke
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, CultCuts wrote:
> Millie James wrote:
>
> > Another one would be "The Tin Drum" about a kid named Oskar. He fell on
> > his head and stopped growing. There's a lady who loved to eat herring
> > ... lots of herring. Shockingly funny in spots. Mostly bizarre ... makes
> > you wonder about reality ... or - worse - the reality of reality.
> >
>
> Excellent movie based on the novel by Gunter Grass. Very disturbing film
> which really needs a DVD release.
It's out on DVD...through Kino Video.
Stephen
Matthew Montchalin
Is it called http://www.kinovideo ??
CultCuts
Thanks. Did not know this.
Mark
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David Munn
Rawlinson's End" (1980).
The eccentric English peer, Sir Henry Rawlinson, lives at his ancestral
home with Old Scrotum, his wrinkled retainer. He captured a couple of
German's during the war and keeps them as pets in his own P.O.W. camp in
his backyard. In between perusing nudist magazines they make half-hearted
escape attempts which he foils. His ancestral home is haunted by the ghost
of his brother Humbert who cannot rest because he died without his
trousers on. The plot centres on Sir Henry's attempts to trouser the
ghost. This strange low-budget black and white film was written by Vivian
Stanshall from the Bonzo Dog Band, and features a standout performance by
Trevor Howard in the part of Sir Henry. The scene in which he appears in
blackface wearing a tutu and riding a unicycle has to be seen to be
believed.
Other possibilities would be "Macunaima" (1969), in which a man is born as
an adult, another pretends to eat his own testicles and lots of people get
thrown into a swimming pool full of pirahnas, Jodorowsky's "The Holy
Mountain" (1975), full of bizarre imagery including crucified sides of
lamb, "God Told Me Too" (1977), with a series of mass murders being
ordered by an extraterrestrial posing as Christ, and "Sweet Movie" (1974),
with its beauty contest with public virginity test, a millionaire with a
gold painted phallus, a woman being "posted" in a suitcase, and an "orgy"
of public vomiting and defecation.
Aussiescribbler
(Check out my movie reviews and other writing at
http://www.writtenbyme.com/member/aussiescribbler)
In article <Zo1U6.19380$mR5.1...@afrodite.telenet-ops.be>,
A.C.R.O.N.Y.M.
Drunkard" (~1983). If you fail to believe me, check out the mpg clip of
the "watermelon" monster at:
http://www.badmovies.org/movies/dwutang/index.html
In article <davmun-2007...@1cust143.tnt3.adl1.da.uu.net>,
bobdiscount
Doom Generation
Fire Sale
Parents
Eating Raoul
Dark Backward
Meet the Hollowheads
Kate
bobdiscount <bobdi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Eraserhead
12 Monkeys
Reefer Madness
Seven
Beetlejuice
Edward Scissorhands
One Night on Earth
Freaks
M
Dreams
--
Kate
Jeff Coleman
Doom Generation's pretty strange, but for Greg Araki I figure Nowhere takes
the cake...
Jeff
Vicki
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