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20 best movies of past 10 yrs

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shattering asses

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May 2, 2007, 3:48:37 PM5/2/07
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in no particular order

topsy turvy
sunshine
faithless
AI
mulholland dr.
eyes wide shut
amores perros
time regained
lost in translation
y tu mama tambien
13th warrior
saving private ryan
hanabi
attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith
king kong
before sunset
american splendor
werckmeister harmonies
almost famous
gangs of NY

tmk

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May 2, 2007, 4:42:25 PM5/2/07
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in no particular order

topsy turvy
sunshine,
faithless
AI,
mulholland, dr.
eyes, wide shut
amores, perros
time regained,
lost, in translation
y tu mama, tambien,
13th warrior
saving private ryan,
hanabi
attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith,
king kong
before sunset,
american splendor
werckmeister, harmonies,


almost famous
gangs of NY

Personally, I would like to see "King Kong Before Sunset" and "Almost
Famous Gangs of New York."


Jon Schild

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May 2, 2007, 5:44:07 PM5/2/07
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I agree with Topsy Turvy and Y Tu Mama Tambien. I would add
Down with Love
There's Something About Mary
The Thirteenth Floor
October Sky
Fight Club
Donnie Darko (directors cut, not short version)
Life As a House
Changing Lanes
Finding Neverland
A Beautiful Mind

That's not 20, but I missed a lot of movies.

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Steven L.

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May 2, 2007, 5:06:14 PM5/2/07
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shattering asses wrote:

> AI


> attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith
> king kong

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, that's all I can say.

It also appears you have no children. Or you assume that family movies
can't be great movies. (I'll take "The Incredibles" or "Finding Nemo"
over "Attack of the Clones" any day.)


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May 2, 2007, 5:14:59 PM5/2/07
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Since by definition "past 10 years" and "silent movies" or "past-
films" (as defined in that group) are essentially mutually
exclusive...

could anyone responding to this remove those two newsgroups from the
list your reply is going to? Thanks.

Highlandish

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May 2, 2007, 5:14:01 PM5/2/07
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Quoth The Raven; shattering asses <cerebur...@hotmail.com> in
<1178135317.2...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

who the fuck wrote this shit list? if this list is based on movie awards
then it is a sham. the movie awards are judged by themselves, they're just
clapping themselves on the back with trophies.

I heard sunshine is ok, but I hadn't seen it yet.

I haven't seen Hana-bi, but I know the director/actor Takeshi Kitano and he
has been in many movies I like

13th warrior was ok, but the newer Beowulf was better. the rest were average
at best.

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Derek Janssen

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May 2, 2007, 5:37:35 PM5/2/07
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Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven; shattering asses <cerebur...@hotmail.com> in
> <1178135317.2...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
>
>>in no particular order
>><or sense>

>>
>
> who the fuck wrote this shit list?

The same guy who posts it every month by the clock, when we're not
paying enough attention, and he wants to stave off death-by-Usenet-oblivion.

Same entries, too.

Derek Janssen
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R H Draney

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May 2, 2007, 6:49:06 PM5/2/07
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Jon Schild filted:

If you liked THE THIRTEENTH FLOOR, you should also have liked DARK CITY and
EXISTENZ...(probably THE MATRIX too)....

If you liked LOST IN TRANSLATION, seek professional help....r


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Paul Ilechko

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May 2, 2007, 7:54:25 PM5/2/07
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Steven L. wrote:

> It also appears you have no children.

You think someone is going to breed with uber-troll Gaza ! What new
species would be created, I wonder?

Savage Lizard

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May 2, 2007, 9:36:15 PM5/2/07
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 14:44:07 -0700, Jon Schild <j...@xmission.com>
wrote:

>I agree with Topsy Turvy and Y Tu Mama Tambien. I would add
>Down with Love
>There's Something About Mary
>The Thirteenth Floor
>October Sky
>Fight Club
>Donnie Darko (directors cut, not short version)
>Life As a House
>Changing Lanes
>Finding Neverland
>A Beautiful Mind

A Beautiful Mind would be an EXCELLENT remedy for anyone suffering
from insomnia.

Savage Lizard

Harkness

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May 2, 2007, 9:47:56 PM5/2/07
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On May 2, 5:14 pm, "mikegeb...@gmail.com" <mikegeb...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Since "past-films" is anything over three years old, it's at least 70%
on topic.

John Harkness

steve

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May 2, 2007, 10:58:53 PM5/2/07
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On 2-May-2007, smacked up and reeling, shattering asses
<cerebur...@hotmail.com> blindly formulated
the following incoherence:

Jeez, Tony, most of these movies (the ones Ive seen) are pretty poor.
Amores Perros and Mulholland Drive belong on the list...and maybe Eyes WIde
Shut. "Gangs.." was a huge disappointment, for example, and "Y Tu.." is far
from great. King Kong? Star Wars? Almost Famous? Really?

And you're missing some (obviously?) great films.

Summer of Sam
The Filth and the Fury
Crumb
When we were Kings
Read my Lips
Memento
Chicken Run (no kidding. great film.)
Happiness
Happy Times (Zhang Yimou)
Sexy Beast
...
Damn...havent seen that many recent films, and certainly not that many great
ones.

steve
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Jon Schild

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May 3, 2007, 2:32:46 AM5/3/07
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Didn't see Existenz or Dark City. Saw The Matrix (first one) and didn't
like it. So, I didn't see the other two. I rented Lost in Translation,
partway through I got Lost in the Plot, ejected it, and took it back.

dan condon

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May 10, 2007, 11:08:12 AM5/10/07
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We thought Sunshine was a big disappointment. DC
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news:1178135317.2...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 12:08:54 PM5/10/07
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My list, best 20 films of the past ten years:

Kill Bill 1+2 (counts as one film) ( begins 2003)
Lord of the Rings 1+2+3 (counts as one film) (begins 2001)
Passion of the Christ (2003)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Dark City (1998)
The Matrix (1999)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Gladiator (2000)
300 (2006)
Donnie Darko (2001)
Apocalypto (2006)
My Big Fat Greek Wedding (2002)
Gangs of New York (2002)
I Heart Huckabees (2004)
Sin City (2005)
A History of Violence (2005)
The Departed (2006)
Vanilla Sky (2001)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
Shadow of the Vampire (2001)

Wull

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May 10, 2007, 12:22:33 PM5/10/07
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I guess I am no longer a movie buff, I have seen only five of the pics
listed.

Wull

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Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 12:46:30 PM5/10/07
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> I guess I am no longer a movie buff, I have seen only five of the pics
> listed.
>
> Wull
>

You missed a lot of entertaining films, in my list anyway. I chose
my films for their entertainment value as well as for their high
quality and originality.

-Al-

Mollën

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May 10, 2007, 3:15:01 PM5/10/07
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On 10 May, 17:08, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> > We thought Sunshine was a big disappointment. DC
> > "shattering asses" <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

no ail no american beauty....?

Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 3:23:03 PM5/10/07
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I wasn't all that keen on "American Beauty." It was OK, I guess
[shurgs]. I watched it, but I wasn't wowed by it.

-Al-

Slaw

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May 10, 2007, 4:45:26 PM5/10/07
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My top 5;
Happiness
9 Songs
Pushing Tin
Wall Street
Goodfellas

Good luck!


Highlandish

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May 10, 2007, 5:19:10 PM5/10/07
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Quoth The Raven; Al Smith <inv...@address.com> in
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Kevin spacey seems to enliven any movie he's in, kpax should have been a
dog, but I found it wonderful, right up there with American beauty.

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Michael O'Connor

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May 10, 2007, 7:11:38 PM5/10/07
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Since I haven't seen any movies in 2007 I'll make it 1997-2006. This
is off the top of my head so I'm sure I'll miss a few::

Titanic
LA Confidential
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Best in Show
Sin City
Revenge of the Sith
Lord of the Rings trilogy
Spiderman 2
The Aviator
American History X
United 93
The Departed
Almost Famous
O Brother Where Art Thou?
The Departed
Saving Private Ryan
Borat
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 8:02:13 PM5/10/07
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Goodfellas, great movie, but not made within the last ten years.

-Al-

Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 8:06:07 PM5/10/07
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"K-pax" (2001) was quirky. I enjoyed it. However, I don't much
like Kevin Spacey. It's hard to say why. He seems dead inside,
somehow -- as though all his emotions are unnatural. You know how
some actors are larger than life, their own personalities
dominating every role they play? Spacey is just the opposite. He
sucks the life out of his roles, and seems to cling desperately to
them, as a way of giving himself the simulation of human emotion.
He's a talented actor, but flat.

-Al-

Al Smith

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May 10, 2007, 8:10:46 PM5/10/07
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"LA Confidential" was a pretty good film. Good solid work. Nothing
amazing about it, but it will stand the test of time.

-Al-

George Peatty

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May 10, 2007, 8:23:20 PM5/10/07
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 00:10:46 GMT, Al Smith <inv...@address.com> wrote:

>"LA Confidential" was a pretty good film. Good solid work. Nothing
>amazing about it, but it will stand the test of time.

I think it's the best 90's film I've seen .. I don't think there are fifty
better movies ..

Highlandish

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May 11, 2007, 3:30:59 AM5/11/07
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Quoth The Raven; Al Smith <inv...@address.com> in
<PrO0i.11$V75.0@edtnps89>

I think his appeal might be that he seems depressed or something, he
certainly doesn't appear to me to be 2D like a lot of actors, he has depth

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Michael O'Connor

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May 11, 2007, 6:52:47 AM5/11/07
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On May 10, 8:23 pm, George Peatty <peattyg47-1...@copper.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 00:10:46 GMT, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> >"LA Confidential" was a pretty good film. Good solid work. Nothing
> >amazing about it, but it will stand the test of time.
>
> I think it's the best 90's film I've seen .. I don't think there are fifty
> better movies ..

I think the two best movies of the 90's are LA Confidential and JFK.

Viejo Vizcacha

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May 11, 2007, 9:23:21 AM5/11/07
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I find interesting that none mentioned Memento. That movie is the
perfect allegory of what passes by news today.

We are not told about the suffering and the mayhem inflicted by American
policies to the world, and when the victims retaliate killing an
American carpetbagger in Iraq, then we react as if that was coming out
of nowhere. Which to us it was, because we are totally ignorant of the
context.

VV
VV

Al Smith

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May 11, 2007, 9:32:37 AM5/11/07
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>>> >> Kevin spacey seems to enliven any movie he's in, kpax should have
>>> >> been a dog, but I found it wonderful, right up there with American
>>> >> beauty.
>> >
>> >
>> > "K-pax" (2001) was quirky. I enjoyed it. However, I don't much
>> > like Kevin Spacey. It's hard to say why. He seems dead inside,
>> > somehow -- as though all his emotions are unnatural. You know how
>> > some actors are larger than life, their own personalities
>> > dominating every role they play? Spacey is just the opposite. He
>> > sucks the life out of his roles, and seems to cling desperately to
>> > them, as a way of giving himself the simulation of human emotion.
>> > He's a talented actor, but flat.
>> >
>> > -Al-
>
> I think his appeal might be that he seems depressed or something, he
> certainly doesn't appear to me to be 2D like a lot of actors, he has depth


Depth? Well, OK. People seem to like him. He just rubs me the
wrong way. I wouldn't trust him, if I was his next door neighbor.
He has a dishonest face.

-Al-

Bill Vermillion

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May 11, 2007, 10:15:01 AM5/11/07
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In article <cFH0i.1111$mR2....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,

Wull <wma...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I guess I am no longer a movie buff, I have seen only five of the pics
>listed.
>
>Wull

I've seen a bit more - but from my POV there is a paucity of
good films - but a lot of wannabee blockbusters.

[most titles deleted in this reply - wjv]

>>>> > topsy turvy

I really liked this - but I grew up with my parents playing
Gilbert and Sullivan songs - so I knew many of the lyrics by
the time I was 8 or 9.

>>>> > king kong

Jack Black really shouldn't have been in this one IMO>

>> Kill Bill 1+2 (counts as one film) ( begins 2003)

I also liked this/those.

>> Passion of the Christ (2003)

Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
Much of the film was in Aramic or Hebrew.

>> Vanilla Sky (2001)

The original Spanish version of Vanilla Sky - "Open Your Eyes"
is a far better film. It hasn't suffered from the
'hollywoodization' - eg bigger/flashier cars, FX, etc.

One ineteresting thing about Open Your Eyes is that Penelope
Cruz plays the same role in both the original Spanish version, and
also in the English version with Tom Cruise.

Bill

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Bill Vermillion

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May 11, 2007, 10:35:01 AM5/11/07
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In article <1178829926.3...@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

Slaw <singh_d...@boltblue.com> wrote:
>On 10 May, 20:23, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
>> > On 10 May, 17:08, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
...

>> I wasn't all that keen on "American Beauty." It was OK, I guess
>> [shurgs]. I watched it, but I wasn't wowed by it.
>>
>> -Al-
>
>My top 5;
>Happiness
>9 Songs
>Pushing Tin
>Wall Street
>Goodfellas
>
>Good luck!

And I really liked Magnolia - though some people thought it was
a bit long.

Bill Vermillion

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May 11, 2007, 10:35:01 AM5/11/07
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I thought he was great in The Usual Suspect. He did get a
best supporting actor Oscar for that role.

I thought his portrayal of Bobby Darin was a bit off - probably
because of Spacey's age playing Darin much younger.

Bill

Al Smith

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>>> >> Passion of the Christ (2003)
>
> Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
> there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
> Much of the film was in Aramic or Hebrew.
>

Since most of the Academy voters are Jewish, something tells me
the "Passion of the Christ" wouldn't have won the Oscar in any case.

-Al-

Al Smith

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May 11, 2007, 10:55:58 AM5/11/07
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>>> >> Vanilla Sky (2001)
>
> The original Spanish version of Vanilla Sky - "Open Your Eyes"
> is a far better film. It hasn't suffered from the
> 'hollywoodization' - eg bigger/flashier cars, FX, etc.
>
> One ineteresting thing about Open Your Eyes is that Penelope
> Cruz plays the same role in both the original Spanish version, and
> also in the English version with Tom Cruise.
>
> Bill


I haven't seen the Spanish version. However, another instance
where the foreign original is better than the American remake is
"Nightwatch." I watched the original, then tried to watch the
remake, and gave up about twenty minutes into it. Not worth the
effort.

-Al-

Martin Koolhoven

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May 11, 2007, 11:02:09 AM5/11/07
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Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:

> >> Passion of the Christ (2003)
>
> Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
> there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.

Not because it was crap...?

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Bill Vermillion

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May 11, 2007, 11:25:01 AM5/11/07
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In article <2u%0i.3046$V75.1777@edtnps89>,

Someday I'll have to learn Spanish so I don't have to try to keep
up with the sub-titles. Another great film from Spain is "Talk To
Her" - which got an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay - by Pedro
Almodovar - who also directed it.

As to Nightwatch - I see 3 that fit that title on IMDB.
There is a Russian version from 2004, a Danish version from 1994,
and a 1997 USA version, which is a remake of the Danish version.

Am I correct in assuming you are refering to the Danish version?

Bill

Al Smith

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May 11, 2007, 11:59:01 AM5/11/07
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Yes, the Danish version. You wouldn't expect the Danes to be able
to make a decent movie, but by God, at least one of them can. I
tried to watch the American remake a day after watching the
original Danish version. Not a flattering comparison for the
remake. Haven't run across the Russian version yet.

-Al-

Al Smith

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May 11, 2007, 12:11:22 PM5/11/07
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Oh, wait, I know the Russian film you mean. It's a completely
different film. Very good, though. It's about modern vampire
hunters in Russia.

-Al again-

Daniela C

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May 11, 2007, 12:47:32 PM5/11/07
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Al Smith schrieb:

What about Lars von Trier then? Breaking the Waves, Dancer in the Dark are
great movies and he is Danish. And what about Festen aka The Celebration
(1998), you really shouldn't underestimate the Danish. And after all they
gave us dogma 95 movies.

Daniela

George Peatty

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May 11, 2007, 1:36:35 PM5/11/07
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:23:21 -0400, Viejo Vizcacha
<elbie_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>We are not told about the suffering and the mayhem inflicted by American
>policies to the world, and when the victims retaliate killing an
>American carpetbagger in Iraq, then we react as if that was coming out
>of nowhere. Which to us it was, because we are totally ignorant of the
>context.

I think you've just summarized the root cause of every conflict in human
history, including the current situation in the Middle East ..

Viejo Vizcacha

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May 11, 2007, 2:13:00 PM5/11/07
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And that should be more of a reason to include it among the 20 best
movies of the last 10 years, I think. It is one film that shows you how,
even when you are paying attention, and what you see is true, you still
misinterpret it, because you lack context. I would make it mandatory for
children in grade 10 or 11 to watch it.

VV

Highlandish

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May 11, 2007, 8:33:50 PM5/11/07
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Quoth The Raven; Al Smith <inv...@address.com> in
<2u%0i.3046$V75.1777@edtnps89>

I didn't realise nightwatch was remade, I saw the first one so when it came
around again I thought it was the same film being re-released to more
cinemas.

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Bill Vermillion

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May 11, 2007, 9:25:01 PM5/11/07
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In article <1hxyjjq.1u8cy9111w3vt7N%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>,

Whether it was good or bad would make no difference because
there was not category in which it could compete. Now if it had
been made outside the US it could have competed in the foreign film
category.

Derek Janssen

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May 11, 2007, 9:41:55 PM5/11/07
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[Gaza content removed, pointless-ritual x-post groups removed, and
sanitized for your protection...Let's just wrap this one up quick,
though, folks, or at least learn to change headers]

Bill Vermillion wrote:
>>
>>>>>Passion of the Christ (2003)
>>>
>>>Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
>>>there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
>>
>>Not because it was crap...?
>

> Whether it was good or bad would make no difference because
> there was not category in which it could compete. Now if it had
> been made outside the US it could have competed in the foreign film
> category.

Actually, all foreign-language films are eligible for Best Picture, as
well as all the other technical categories--
As was "Life is Beautiful", "Il Postino" and "Indochine".

"Passion" was fully eligible for Best Picture, as it was for
Cinematography, Makeup and Editing--
In the end, it was disqualified from Best Picture competition, however,
on the grounds of being crap. :)

Derek Janssen
eja...@comcast.net

Harkness

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May 12, 2007, 9:48:30 AM5/12/07
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On May 11, 5:47 pm, Daniela C <Daniela....@t-online.de> wrote:
> Al Smith schrieb:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In article <2u%0i.3046$V75.1777@edtnps89>,

For which they will burn.

John Harkness

Harkness

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On May 11, 3:15 pm, b...@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
> In article <cFH0i.1111$mR2.1...@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,

>
> Wull <wmai...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >I guess I am no longer a movie buff, I have seen only five of the pics
> >listed.
>
> >Wull
>
> I've seen a bit more - but from my POV there is a paucity of
> good films - but a lot of wannabee blockbusters.
>
> [most titles deleted in this reply - wjv]
>
> >>>> > topsy turvy
>
> I really liked this - but I grew up with my parents playing
> Gilbert and Sullivan songs - so I knew many of the lyrics by
> the time I was 8 or 9.
>
> >>>> > king kong
>
> Jack Black really shouldn't have been in this one IMO>
>
> >> Kill Bill 1+2 (counts as one film) ( begins 2003)
>
> I also liked this/those.
>
> >> Passion of the Christ (2003)
>
> Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
> there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
> Much of the film was in Aramic or Hebrew.

Actually, Aramaic and Latin.

However, as a movie which opened commmerically in Los Angeles, it was
eligible for every Oscar for which it qualified -- picture, director,
screenplay, all the acting and technical awards. It wasn't eligible,
obviously, documentary or animation or short film awards, nor was it
eligible for Best Foreign Language film.

But look at all the non-English language films that have received
nominations and won Oscars -- Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Volver,
Pan's Labyrinth, Life Is Beautiful. No rule prevented Passion Of The
Christ from receiving Academy Award nominations.

John Harkness

Adam Cameron

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May 12, 2007, 5:01:38 PM5/12/07
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I couldn't vouch for "best", but these are the ones I rated highest on
IMDB, which is just "how much I liked them", more than "best".

Fight Club
Grosse Pointe Blank
Meglio gioventů, La

Bowling for Columbine
Children of Men
The Contender


Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

King Kong
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Memento
Primer
Three Kings
Topless Women Talk About Their Lives
United 93

American History X
Black Hawk Down
The Butterfly Effect
Magnolia
Tigerland
Untergang, Der

Strange list, in places. It surprised even me.

--
Adam

Al Smith

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Some pretty good movies on there. Not "United 93" though. It was a
very boring film. All it had going for it was its connection with
9/11. It wasn't quite as poor as Oliver Stone's World Trade Center
movie, but it was poor.

-Al-

Martin Koolhoven

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May 13, 2007, 8:21:38 AM5/13/07
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Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:

> In article <1hxyjjq.1u8cy9111w3vt7N%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>,
> Martin Koolhoven <MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT> wrote:
> >Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> Passion of the Christ (2003)
> >>
> >> Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
> >> there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
> >
> >Not because it was crap...?
> >
> >--
> >gr,
> >Martin Koolhoven
> >look at this: http://tinyurl.com/2sryc6
>
> Whether it was good or bad would make no difference because
> there was not category in which it could compete.

It could have won any oscar that Braveheart won before. What was the
problem?

Marv Soloff

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May 13, 2007, 8:57:27 AM5/13/07
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Martin Koolhoven wrote:
> Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <1hxyjjq.1u8cy9111w3vt7N%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>,
>>Martin Koolhoven <MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT> wrote:
>>
>>>Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Passion of the Christ (2003)
>>>>
>>>>Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
>>>>there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
>>>
>>>Not because it was crap...?
>>>
>>>--
>>>gr,
>>>Martin Koolhoven
>>>look at this: http://tinyurl.com/2sryc6
>>
>>Whether it was good or bad would make no difference because
>>there was not category in which it could compete.
>
>
> It could have won any oscar that Braveheart won before. What was the
> problem?
>
>
It was not a very good film. In my opinion, "The Last Temptation of
Christ" (1988) Martin Scorsese's take on Nikos
Kasantzakis best selling book was much better.

Marv

Martin Koolhoven

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May 13, 2007, 12:17:52 PM5/13/07
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Marv Soloff <mso...@verizon.net> wrote:

> It was not a very good film. In my opinion, "The Last Temptation of
> Christ" (1988) Martin Scorsese's take on Nikos
> Kasantzakis best selling book was much better.

It's a shame Verhoeven never got to make his version.

Martin Koolhoven

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May 13, 2007, 12:17:53 PM5/13/07
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Al Smith <inv...@address.com> wrote:

> Some pretty good movies on there. Not "United 93" though. It was a
> very boring film.

I thought it was very impressive. Greengrass is one of the most
inetersting directors of the last decade.

All it had going for it was its connection with
> 9/11.

What do you mean bu thta?

Al Smith

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May 13, 2007, 12:41:16 PM5/13/07
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I mean that because "United 93" was connected with the events of
9/11 it had built-in audience interest. Really, it was nothing but
another airplane disaster flick, and we've seen to many of those.
"Snakes On a Plane" was a better film than "United 93."

-Al-

Martin Koolhoven

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May 13, 2007, 1:10:30 PM5/13/07
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Al Smith <inv...@address.com> wrote:

>
> I mean that because "United 93" was connected with the events of
> 9/11 it had built-in audience interest. Really, it was nothing but
> another airplane disaster flick,

Actually it was completely different than any other disaster flick.
You're right that this film got more attention than it would have had if
it wasn't 9/11 related. Mainly *because* it was so different. This was
more like an arthouse airplane disaster film.

Highlandish

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May 13, 2007, 5:37:04 PM5/13/07
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Quoth The Raven; Martin Koolhoven <MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT> in
<1hy22hg.15qwprsd3nnnhN%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>

hollywood is jewish, you cant make an anti-jew film and hope to get an award

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Highlandish

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May 13, 2007, 5:37:53 PM5/13/07
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Quoth The Raven; Marv Soloff <mso...@verizon.net> in
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the bit where jesus has sex with mary made a lot of ppl angry

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Al Smith

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May 13, 2007, 6:09:06 PM5/13/07
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> Quoth The Raven; Martin Koolhoven <MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT> in
> <1hy22hg.15qwprsd3nnnhN%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>
>> > Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> >> In article <1hxyjjq.1u8cy9111w3vt7N%MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT>,
>>> >> Martin Koolhoven <MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT> wrote:
>>>> >> >Bill Vermillion <b...@wjv.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Passion of the Christ (2003)
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Interesting in that this could get no award in the US because
>>>>> >> >> there was no category for foreign language films made in the US.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Not because it was crap...?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >--
>>>> >> >gr,
>>>> >> >Martin Koolhoven
>>>> >> >look at this: http://tinyurl.com/2sryc6
>>> >>
>>> >> Whether it was good or bad would make no difference because
>>> >> there was not category in which it could compete.
>> >
>> > It could have won any oscar that Braveheart won before. What was the
>> > problem?
>
> hollywood is jewish, you cant make an anti-jew film and hope to get an award


True enough. But the funny thing is, "Passion of the Christ"
wasn't anti-Jewish at all. It tried to be faithful to the New
Testament books. It was perceived as anti-Jewish, however, and
that doomed it as far an Oscar went. It also doomed Gibson, the
split second his films stop earing over $100 million each at the
box office.

-Al-

Bill Vermillion

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May 13, 2007, 8:35:00 PM5/13/07
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In article <XWD1i.666$145.521@trnddc02>,

And it was NOT shown locally - Orlando Florida - because one
of the 'radio ministers' got on his high horse and caused so much
grief that no theatres would show it.

What is/was ironic, is that I knew him before he became a
"minister" and was a radio salesman at a station I worked for.
And for some reason ISTR - and it may be incorrect - that we was
reformed alcoholic .

And after the above brouhahah he wound up spending 4 years in
prison for attempting to hire a hit man to kill a person who was
supposedly his best friend as he was having an affair with that
friends wife - and I guess wanted her for his own.

He now works for the ACLU.

That is almost a complete antithesis of his stand when he
was a 'radio minister'.

All you have to do is make enough noise and people run scared.

Manco

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May 14, 2007, 12:07:45 AM5/14/07
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dan condon wrote:
> We thought Sunshine was a big disappointment. DC
> "shattering asses" <cerebur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1178135317.2...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> in no particular order
>>
>> topsy turvy
>> sunshine
>> faithless
>> AI
>> mulholland dr.
>> eyes wide shut
>> amores perros
>> time regained
>> lost in translation
>> y tu mama tambien
>> 13th warrior
>> saving private ryan
>> hanabi
>> attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith
>> king kong
>> before sunset
>> american splendor
>> werckmeister harmonies
>> almost famous
>> gangs of NY

The Terminator(1984)


shattering asses

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May 14, 2007, 4:37:26 PM5/14/07
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On May 13, 11:17 am, MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT (Martin Koolhoven)
wrote:

> Marv Soloff <msol...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > It was not a very good film. In my opinion, "The Last Temptation of
> > Christ" (1988) Martin Scorsese's take on Nikos
> > Kasantzakis best selling book was much better.
>
> It's a shame Verhoeven never got to make his version.
>

do you really wanna look when jesus crosses his legs?

Martin Koolhoven

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May 15, 2007, 2:01:13 PM5/15/07
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shattering asses <cerebur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Eh... yup.

shattering asses

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May 18, 2007, 2:59:43 PM5/18/07
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On May 15, 1:01 pm, MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT (Martin Koolhoven) wrote:

> shattering asses <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 13, 11:17 am, MYN...@xs4all.nlSPAMSHIT (Martin Koolhoven)
> > wrote:
> > > Marv Soloff <msol...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > It was not a very good film. In my opinion, "The Last Temptation of
> > > > Christ" (1988) Martin Scorsese's take on Nikos
> > > > Kasantzakis best selling book was much better.
>
> > > It's a shame Verhoeven never got to make his version.
>
> > do you really wanna look when jesus crosses his legs?
>
> Eh... yup.
>

it's available in the unrated version of The Last Supper by leonardo.

R H Draney

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May 18, 2007, 4:12:59 PM5/18/07
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shattering asses filted:

So *that's* what made Judas knock over the salt!...r


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"You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!"

Andrew F. Heil

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May 20, 2007, 10:02:22 AM5/20/07
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On May 2, 2:48 pm, shattering asses <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> in no particular order
>
> topsy turvy
> sunshine
> faithless
> AI
> mulholland dr.
> eyes wide shut
> amores perros
> time regained
> lost in translation
> y tu mama tambien
> 13th warrior
> saving private ryan
> hanabi
> attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith
> king kong
> before sunset
> american splendor
> werckmeister harmonies
> almost famous
> gangs of NY

I don't know about 20, but I'd put Downfall somewhere in that list.

Flasherly

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May 20, 2007, 11:57:24 AM5/20/07
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On May 2, 3:48 pm, shattering asses <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com>

wrote:
> in no particular order
>
> AI
> mulholland dr.
> lost in translation
> saving private ryan
> almost famous


Liked these offhand - some I want to see now. Others so so.
Interesting list.

Flasherly

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May 20, 2007, 12:08:36 PM5/20/07
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On May 10, 12:08 pm, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> > We thought Sunshine was a big disappointment. DC
> > "shattering asses" <cerebureaucr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1178135317.2...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> >> > in no particular order
>
> >> > topsy turvy
> >> > sunshine
> >> > faithless
> >> > AI
> >> > mulholland dr.
> >> > eyes wide shut
> >> > amores perros
> >> > time regained
> >> > lost in translation
> >> > y tu mama tambien
> >> > 13th warrior
> >> > saving private ryan
> >> > hanabi
> >> > attack of the clones/ revenge of the sith
> >> > king kong
> >> > before sunset
> >> > american splendor
> >> > werckmeister harmonies
> >> > almost famous
> >> > gangs of NY
>
> My list, best 20 films of the past ten years:

>
> Kill Bill 1+2 (counts as one film) ( begins 2003)
> Lord of the Rings 1+2+3 (counts as one film) (begins 2001)

> Passion of the Christ (2003)
> V for Vendetta (2005)
> Dark City (1998)
> The Matrix (1999)
> The Sixth Sense (1999)
> Gladiator (2000)
> 300 (2006)
> Donnie Darko (2001)
> Apocalypto (2006)
> My Big Fat Greek Wedding (2002)
> Gangs of New York (2002)
> I Heart Huckabees (2004)
> Sin City (2005)
> A History of Violence (2005)
> The Departed (2006)
> Vanilla Sky (2001)
> Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
> Shadow of the Vampire (2001)

Shattered arse's list is more interesting - challenging. This is
mainstream not bad tho

Flasherly

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May 20, 2007, 12:20:05 PM5/20/07
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On May 11, 9:23 am, Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_jovis_ka...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Michael O'Connor wrote:
> > On May 10, 8:23 pm, George Peatty <peattyg47-1...@copper.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 00:10:46 GMT, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
> >>> "LA Confidential" was a pretty good film. Good solid work. Nothing
> >>> amazing about it, but it will stand the test of time.
> >> I think it's the best 90's film I've seen .. I don't think there are fifty
> >> better movies ..
>
> > I think the two best movies of the 90's are LA Confidential and JFK.
>
> I find interesting that none mentioned Memento. That movie is the
> perfect allegory of what passes by news today.
>
> We are not told about the suffering and the mayhem inflicted by American
> policies to the world, and when the victims retaliate killing an
> American carpetbagger in Iraq, then we react as if that was coming out
> of nowhere. Which to us it was, because we are totally ignorant of the
> context.
>
> VV
> VV

If I want strange I'll take Irreversible over Momento. Nothing to do
with news.

Al Smith

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May 20, 2007, 5:27:59 PM5/20/07
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People may actually have seen most of the movies on my list.

-Al-

Flasherly

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May 21, 2007, 9:28:48 AM5/21/07
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On May 20, 10:02 am, "Andrew F. Heil" <andrewfhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't know about 20, but I'd put Downfall somewhere in that list.

Done deal.

Viejo Vizcacha

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You are not alone; most people want nothing to do with news of what is
happening. That is why they watch FoxNews.

VV

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