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Where there hipsters in the '90s?

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TMC

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May 24, 2012, 4:06:12 AM5/24/12
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« Reply #11 on May 22, 2012, 2:01am »

May 22, 2012, 1:53am, ED2099 is: bouncing his way up wrote:
What is 'hipster' supposed to mean, in plain English?


Hipster is a pejorative term frequently used to refer to a subculture
of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older
teenagers. Usage of the term reappeared in the 1990s and persists to
the present. The subculture is associated with independent music, a
varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, and alternative lifestyles.
Interests in media would include independent film, magazines such as
Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.

« Reply #13 on May 22, 2012, 10:03am »
In the 90's, hipsters were the people in the Seattle/grunge scene.
They drank expensive coffee, knew about bands before they were big and
then labeled them sell-outs after they became succesful.

The funny thing was, even back in the beatnik days and into the 90's,
'hipster' was a pejorative term. It never really meant anything good
in the eyes of those who used it, but the people labeled as hipsters
co-opted it and made it a label of pride.

Its only recently that this imaginary "hipster backlash" has reared
its head where people act like hipsters are discriminated against and
held down by society.

This era of hipsters are just waaay to sensitive about it. Lighten up
hipsters...geez.

Just the other day someone called me a hipster actually because I wear
a lot of American Apparel shirts/hoodies (I like to buy American/fair
trade when I can). Anyway, this guy was like, "American Apparel? You
f***ing hipster." To which I replied. "Oh yeah, I guess so, heh."

Volfie999

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May 24, 2012, 8:25:45 AM5/24/12
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Remysun

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May 24, 2012, 11:08:16 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 4:06 am, TMC <tmc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hipster is a pejorative term frequently used to refer to a subculture
> of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older
> teenagers. Usage of the term reappeared in the 1990s and persists to
> the present. The subculture is associated with independent music, a
> varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, and alternative lifestyles.
> Interests in media would include independent film, magazines such as
> Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.

> In the 90's, hipsters were the people in the Seattle/grunge scene.
> They drank expensive coffee, knew about bands before they were big and
> then labeled them sell-outs after they became succesful.

Bullshit, those were poseurs. Grunge came from shopping at the
Salvation Army and defying mall stores.

hislop

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May 24, 2012, 8:53:40 PM5/24/12
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In the 90s it can't be anything more than a demographic, or a word to
sell with.
I thought one source of the word was the change in trousers in the 60s,
they actually were hipsters, I used to have a pair of those once.
'Grunge' besides not being a word that began with Seattle, goes back to
the late 80s, with groups like Mudhoney, in the case of Seattle anyway.
It was a word used in Melbourne, Australia through the 80s for groups
related to The Birthday Day for example, along with 'thrash'. Not much
of anything really began in the 90s.
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Ubiquitous

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May 24, 2012, 4:07:00 AM5/24/12
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tmc...@gmail.com wrote:

>« Reply #11 on May 22, 2012, 2:01am »
>
>May 22, 2012, 1:53am, ED2099 is: bouncing his way up wrote:
>What is 'hipster' supposed to mean, in plain English?
>
>
>Hipster is a pejorative term frequently used to refer to a subculture
>of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older
>teenagers. Usage of the term reappeared in the 1990s and persists to
>the present. The subculture is associated with independent music, a
>varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, and alternative lifestyles.
>Interests in media would include independent film, magazines such as
>Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.

And you posted this off-topic article here because?

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"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

hislop

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May 25, 2012, 11:28:06 AM5/25/12
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On 25/05/2012 2:39 PM, poisoned rose wrote:
> hislop<takecar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the 90s it can't be anything more than a demographic, or a word to
>> sell with.
>> I thought one source of the word was the change in trousers in the 60s,
>> they actually were hipsters, I used to have a pair of those once.
>> 'Grunge' besides not being a word that began with Seattle, goes back to
>> the late 80s, with groups like Mudhoney, in the case of Seattle anyway.
>> It was a word used in Melbourne, Australia through the 80s for groups
>> related to The Birthday Day for example, along with 'thrash'. Not much
>> of anything really began in the 90s.
>
> I assume you meant the Birthday Party?
>
> I've pretty much given up on pursuing this sort of topic on Usenet. It
> inevitably degrades into "Kids today, what with their long hair, drugs
> and out-of-tune guitars"-type cane-rattling.

I don't know why I said Day. I remember their last live performance in
May 1983, I wasn't there, but I did see Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds on
December 31 1983, one of the best live performances I have ever seen.
Seattle Grunge seems aerated after that. I did see Mudhoney live in
1988 in Melbourne. I also saw Sonic Youth live in 1987 with Nick Cave
and his friends in the audience. There was a band called The Wreckery
who I called Grunge in the 80s. I think Hugo Race was in that, he was
also in The Bad Seeds at the very beginning.

Well the 90s was an awful decade I will never stop putting it down. Read
90s should read 80s when these things come up.
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