Saucy Jack
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last that a morgue attendant was the one what done it ) . Several years
ago I read a book that fingered an American doctor as the culprit and it
was most convincing. Tonight ( Wednesday ) at 10 PM the History Channel
examines this possibility.
william
There was also a History Channel documentary running on hulu or sling
covering a different slant. There's tons of 'em. Including that
Patricia Cornwell nonsense.
William
www.williamahearn.com
David Oberman
My favorite theory is the one advanced in the 1970s by Michael
Harrison -- J. K. Stephen.
Dave in Toronto
The most plausible theory was that expounded by Robert Odell in his
book _Jack The Ripper in Fact and Fiction_. He quotes from the
Assistant Commissioner of Police Sir Robert Anderson's auto-biography
_The Lighter Side of My Official Life_. Anderson was in charge of
the Ripper investigations and the police ended with a pretty good idea
of who had done the murders and why the murders stopped, the trouble
is it's all rather mundane and lacks the glamor of beserk royals or
secret societies so no-one wants to believe it.
Dave in Toronto
Martin 'Martinland' Schemitsch
> On Nov 11, 12:07ï¿œpm, David Oberman <dober...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 11, 11:38ï¿œam, forn...@webtv.net (S D) wrote:
>> >> Many theories have been presented as to the identity of The Ripper ( the
>> >> last that a morgue attendant was the one what done it ) . Several years
>> >> ago I read a book that fingered an American doctor as the culprit and it
>> >> was most convincing. Tonight ( Wednesday ) at 10 PM ï¿œthe History Channel
>> >> examines this possibility.
>>
>> >There was also a History Channel documentary running on hulu or sling
>> >covering a different slant. There's tons of 'em. Including that
>> >Patricia Cornwell nonsense.
>>
>> My favorite theory is the one advanced in the 1970s by Michael
>> Harrison -- J. K. Stephen.
> The most plausible theory was that expounded by Robert Odell in his
> book _Jack The Ripper in Fact and Fiction_. He quotes from the
> Assistant Commissioner of Police Sir Robert Anderson's auto-biography
> _The Lighter Side of My Official Life_. Anderson was in charge of
> the Ripper investigations and the police ended with a pretty good idea
> of who had done the murders and why the murders stopped, the trouble
OK, who and why or do I have to buy the book? ;)
ML
william
>
> The most plausible theory was that expounded by Robert Odell in his
> book _Jack The Ripper in Fact and Fiction_. He quotes from the
> Assistant Commissioner of Police Sir Robert Anderson's auto-biography
> _The Lighter Side of My Official Life_. Anderson was in charge of
> the Ripper investigations and the police ended with a pretty good idea
> of who had done the murders and why the murders stopped, the trouble
> is it's all rather mundane and lacks the glamor of beserk royals or
> secret societies so no-one wants to believe it.
>
William
www.williamahearn.com
william
>
> Would it be Jacob Levy?
>
Or Aaron Kominski?
Or . . .
William
www.williamahearn.com
David Oberman
>> Would it be Jacob Levy?
>>
>Or Aaron Kominski?
>
>Or . . .
Who was the wag that fingered Matthew Arnold as Jack the Ripper?
S D
Dave in Toronto
<team8martinl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:52:26 +0100, Dave in Toronto <dmatthew...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 12:07 pm, David Oberman <dober...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >> william <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Many theories have been presented as to the identity of The Ripper ( the
> >> >> last that a morgue attendant was the one what done it ) . Several years
> >> >> ago I read a book that fingered an American doctor as the culprit and it
> >> >> examines this possibility.
>
> >> >There was also a History Channel documentary running on hulu or sling
> >> >covering a different slant. There's tons of 'em. Including that
> >> >Patricia Cornwell nonsense.
>
> >> My favorite theory is the one advanced in the 1970s by Michael
> >> Harrison -- J. K. Stephen.
> > The most plausible theory was that expounded by Robert Odell in his
> > book _Jack The Ripper in Fact and Fiction_. He quotes from the
> > Assistant Commissioner of Police Sir Robert Anderson's auto-biography
> > _The Lighter Side of My Official Life_. Anderson was in charge of
> > the Ripper investigations and the police ended with a pretty good idea
> > of who had done the murders and why the murders stopped, the trouble
>
> OK, who and why or do I have to buy the book? ;)
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
You can read Anderson's book on-line here -
http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media/rps.lighterside.html
Go to Chapter lX.
Dave in Toronto
Invid Fan
<for...@webtv.net> wrote:
Anyone who hasn't has to read FROM HELL by Alan Moore (avoid the
movie). What makes the book great is not just the story and art itself,
but the appendix where Moore tells us page by page what's fact, what's
probable fact, what's informed speculation, what he made up to move the
story forward, and what he put in just to piss off his Royalist artist
:) He even ends with a chapter on the history of trying to identify
Jack through the decades.
--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'
Tony Whitaker
America" that offers a compelling case that Jack the Ripper was James Kelly,
and that this man came to America and committed many murders here before
returning to London in 1927. New York City cold case detective Ed Norris
arrived at this conclusion while investigating the unsolved New York City
murder of prostitute Carrie Brown, a case that dates all the way back to
1891.
Here's the case against Kelly.
1) James Kelly is known to have contracted a venereal disease from
prostitutes before he married his wife Sarah.
2) Kelly stabbed his wife in the neck with a pen knife causing injuries that
killed her soon afterwards.
3) Kelly was charged with murder and sentenced to death.
4) After being examined by a doctor, Kelly was deemed insane. His sentence
was changed to life in the maximum security Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic
Asylum.
5) Shortly before the Ripper murders, Kelly escaped from the insane asylum.
6) His whereabouts between his escape and 1927 can not be confirmed.
7) In1927, 40 years after his escape, Kelly turned himself back in at the
Broadmoore asylum. On record is this statement from him:
"The thing has been hard because of all kinds of skank. I've been on the
warpath since I left Broadmoor Asylum."
8) Kelly also stated that he had gone to America, and he listed cities in
America he had been to.
9) The Carrie Brown murder (Carrie Brown was a prostitute who had immigrated
from England) had similarities to the Ripper murders.
10) The timing of Carrie Brown's murder matches well with the schedule of
the ship Kelly says he took to New York City.
11) Photos of Carrie Brown's body on file in New York show what looks like
an X slashed into her body. If you include Sarah, and if Carrie was murdered
by the ripper, Carrie would have been the ripper's 10th victim.
12) Ed Norris found several ripper-like murder cases in many of the cities
Kelly claimed to have visited in America.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty damn-well convinced.
Here's an article about the Discovery Channel show:
http://the44diaries.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/44-ds-true-crime-discovery-channels-jack-the-ripper-in-america/
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S D
Channel but a more detailed review on the handwritings would need be
presented. Problem with Kelly is everything is "maybe" , have to think
that lots of women were knifed in Victorian times. He could have just
picked up news stories. Unlikely he would just "stop".
william
From what I understand -- and it's been a while since I dipped into
the material -- there is no absolute proof that whoever was Jack the
Ripper actually wrote any letters to the press. That's the way I
remember it.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Tony Whitaker
did not stop. They say he sailed across to America, and continued killing
over here.
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> Problem with Kelly is ... Unlikely he would just "stop".
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